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11/11/2009 09:00 PM
TURMOIL (TV-14)

ONE OF DETECTIVE STABLER’S (CHRIS MELONI) MOST TRYING CASES IS PUSHED TO THE BACK BURNER WHEN HIS SON’S BEST FRIEND BECOMES INVOLVED IN AN INTERVENTION GONE AWRY.After risqué photos of a fifteen-year-old rape victim (guest star Shana Dowdeswell) are leaked onto the internet, Detectives Elliot Stabler and Olivia Benson’s (Mariska Hargitay) case becomes much more complicated. As the detectives’ case slowly morphs into an investigation by the State Bar, Stabler’s son (guest star Jeffrey Scaperrotta) becomes entangled in a streak of compromising events at the hands of his best friend, a recovering drug addict (guest star Joshua Page). As Benson takes charge of the rape case, Stabler is forced to set his personal opinions aside and deal with the potentially life-threatening situation his son and his friend have so carelessly gotten themselves into. Also starring: Dann Florek (Captain Donald Cragen), B.D. Wong (Dr. George Huang), Richard Belzer (Detective John Munch), Ice-T (Detective Odafin Tutuola), Tamara Tunie (Dr. Melinda Warner), and Stephanie March (ADA Alexandra Cabot).

I heard Christine Lahti will be returning in episode 9 before the episode scatter so this episode was bumped up to episode 8. Should be interesting...

I'm glad Jeffrey returns as Dickie! And I hope Dickie no longer wants to be called Dick...Dick is NOT a name a teenage boy should have, especially in this day in age. I'm sure being Dick was cool in the 1800s but not 2009!

LOL ahh good times.

Christine is coming back?! Whhaaat?
VERY interesting indeed!

Rumors saying she is going fight with Alex, (I'm can't wait to see that!)

Christine will be back in episode 9, PERVERTED. Trevor Langan will also appear and he is going to defend Olivia! Apparently she gets into big trouble! That should be fun!!

Oh wow....of course thank you for giving us the synopsis, like usual, it's really appreciated but...Trevor ... Olivia being in trouble and of course an epi with Dickie involved.....sounds interesting epi!
New interactions between our fave characters, cool...but I can't stop thinking that Stabler's family has a lot of troubles....Writers please be careful or this show will turn to be a soap in which you see every kid of the family having big problems...... We'll see. Anyway, thank you for the news ram47!

jolec Posted Today, 01:16 AM
but I can't stop thinking that Stabler's family has a lot of troubles....Writers please be careful or this show will turn to be a soap in which you see every kid of the family having big problems...... We'll see.

Given that the Stabler are on teenagers 3 and 4, I would say they have had relatively little trouble with their children. Kathleen seems to have the bulk of the problems. Maureen didn't have any real problems and Elizabeth has barely surfaced recently. And this is the first time Dickie has gotten in trouble.

Ok, but the thing is....I'd like to see the family outside of having problems, like in season 1... a little bit more of common life and not always when they have troubles.... I just fear the writers will only focus on Stabler family problems.... I'd like to see how's Maureen doing now...and some little parts of funny things with the twins... I don't want to see just dramas of the family....I mean, Kathleen has a lot of problems, ok....and we have already seen Dickie before without troubles, ok....but now why him? Whatever...it was just a thought of my mind coming...

Have ya'll been to twitter to see Neal Baer's bubbletweet for turmoil? AMAZING!!!! I think this is the episode that leads up to Alex going bye-bye from SVU. Watch the bubbletweet and you shall see why, and you are not going to BELIEVE who is the one who turns their back on her and turns her in to the Bar Association!!!! But....we all knew Stephanie March only had a 9 episode arc this time around (which blows, she should have been on for the ENTIRE SEASON since SHE is one of the reasons the ratings go up, people love her!) and they had to send her back to appeals or whatever at some point, and i think they found a way to do it. Just....not what i would expect from a certain person on the show, thats all.

I can only hope Alex kicks her ass...hard!

Her complaint must not hold much weight because Alex is on until January I think...

And still, Alex should kick her ass...so annoying.

I must say that I agree and Cabot should kick Benson's ass.

Looks like Liv has become quite the little whistle blower. She must be SO proud of herself. As someone who does not like Alex at all, I'd like for her to kick Liv's ass as well! She is way too full of herself!


ANDREA

Stephanie is supposed to be in 10 episodes this season.

if i were Olivia and Alex had sacrificed a vitim to save her own ass i would have filed one too. why would you care so less about a victim you would just blow them off pretty much so it makes yourself not look bad?? wtf. alex needs to figure out how to do her job correctly.

Just saw previews for this episode and it looks like it will be a good one. It also looks like Alex Cabot will be a big part of the episode, whick is something to look forward to.

LOL, Mad. That made my day.



That sounds good.

2 previews of TURMOIL from NBC

http://www.nbc.com/Law_and_Order_Special_V...id=nbceditorial

http://www.nbc.com/Law_and_Order_Special_V...id=nbceditorial

I really do think Paxton will be in this episode, not Perverted, especially from the bubbletweet that Olivia requested for another ADA for the case to replace Alex. This episode was originally #9 until it was moved to #8...but who knows?

As for the fight between Elliot and Kathy, I have a speculation (thanks to the preview from last night) as it was Cragen who told Elliot that his son's missing rather then Kathy. I could imagine Elliot confronting Kathy about it "Why didn't you call me???" although I'm sure Kathy did call him but couldn't get through to him, think Wildlife.

I don't think Dickie dies though, but wow the color on Elliot's face just drains, goes pale when Cragen tells him about the dump job.

I can't wait for this episode! I'm sure the performances will be excellent, I just hope the writing is good!

My reaction was the exact opposite! like "Huh.. look who's talking about unprofessional ethics now!"

Benson has been unprofessional multiple times before. It's quite stupid for Olivia to act so high and mighty after all of her big screwups she pulled over the seasons... err.. I mean over the past 4 seasons. That crap she pulled with her brother from pulling the DNA to helping him get away from the cops was really bad, amongst so much more other "Unprofessional acts" I can't recall right now.

I would've accepted this if it was from someone who didn't do such crap, but I guess they all screwed up at some point or another.

I personally don't think it's a big deal, given the fact that it's just a bubbletweet, coming from Neal Baer. Another way to tease the audience.. It IS the sole purpose behind these things, so there's likely way more to the story than just what we're seeing here. There is no way Neal would give away the main plot in some tweet and spare us the TWISTS you know!

I agree, give Olivia a chance! We don't even know exactly what happens yet.........that being said, it'd have to be something like life or death for me to turn a true friend in....

Can we really say they are true friends? IAlex had been back from WPP for 3 years and never contacted them or returned their calls, so I don't think they were back to the place they were before she left, even then they were friends but not BFF's.


Besides, can't tell what it is form the bubbletweet, but Alex goes after Elliot first,I did not think that "leash" comment was cool...so maybe part of this (for Olivia) is "professional ethics" (yes, pot calling kettle) but a bigger part was whatever Alex did to Elliot, even though she was proably right to do it. I like Alex and I would hope whatever it is they will (all) get past it.


And in a fight between Alexand Olivia, I put $20 on Liv.

I got $100 on that one. Liv is on my manure list, but she is still my favorite character, and I have confidence that she won't be punked by Alex. Didn't Casey try it.


ANDREA

I would need to see exactly what happened and why Olivia felt the need to request a new ADA. Alex has to have a good reason otherwise there is no way in Hell she would have done something like shove a rape victim aside for herself. Part of what makes her a great ADA is her heart. I cannot imagine her doing anything to harm a victim. Olivia is really big on protecting the victim and if she felt any victim of rape was not getting the justice they are seeking then she becomes enraged and does what she can to fight for them, even if it means breaking the rules sometimes or finding someone else who will help. I can bet that Alex had a very good reason for doing what she did and Olivia found other ways of helping the victim before seeking answers from Alex.


Elliot tends to take matters into his own hands and by doing so can royally screw up cases. He needs a leash sometimes. The man can be completely out of control and if this case deals with his son being a suspect then he has no business being anywhere near a crime scene that involves his son's case. The perp's lawyer could claim that evidence tampering took place to get the "real" perp's son off and thus the bad guy walks. I love Elliot but sometimes he needs to sit down, shut his mouth and allow the justice system to work.

Thank You. That was exactly what I was thinking but I could not find the words to articulate my opinion. Benson has done alot of stupid crap over the last few years and should be the last person to judge Cabot on ethics.

There is more to the episode than we are seeing in the bubble tweet. Cabot has always been about the law (granted she has bended it a few times to suite her) and I just do not see her giving up a rape victim to save her own ass.

I have a feeling that this fight we are seeing is because Cabot refused to bend the law to Benson and Stabler's liking and Benson is getting back at her. After all we do know that this is the episode where Dickie goes missing and in SVU detectives Stabler and Benson's mind we know that nothing is illegal when it comes to family. They probably tried to drag Alex into the mess and she refused.

His conduct is for Cragen and the NYPD to worry about, which is why she reported whatever it is to Cragen and probably rightfully so. But that comment was unprofessional and degrading, you use a leash to control a dog, who is she to say that to anyone? Can you imagine any acceptable circumstance where a co-worker can tell you you belong on a leash?? I know I can't.

You think Benson made a formal request for a new ADA because "she refuses to bend the law for us"? It may have been a Bitch move on Olivia's part, but Alex had to do something wrong for her to have something to make the request with.

This is something very hard to comment on because in my mind it just does not seem logical for a detective to put in a request for a new ADA. I will however rephrase what I said earlier. After rewatching the bubbletweet and previews for the episode I think it is more of a case where Cabot did not bring charges against the rapist because of a lack of evidence or an abundance of evidence proving otherwise (ie pic of girl shown in preview). I think Benson sees this as Cabot trying to protect herself because as we all know Benson is all about the victim.

This is just my opinion and I could be very wrong.

Anytime




I remember Neal being on blog talk radio recently, taking questions from Twitter. Someone said: "Okay, so Alex basically tells El your kid's not my top priority re Dickie? THAT would be like battle of the Titans" ..... So, I think you both might be right about Elliot.

Sigh, I recently watched Guilt, and it's kinda ironic because in that one, Benson and Stabler covered up for Alex when she had to lie about a search a warrant! I really miss that dynamic. But again, it's only a matter of time, and this might turn out as nothing more than a misunderstanding in the end. We'll see.

Maybe its just me but Alex doesn't seem like the same ADA she was when she left- which is understandable, she has been through hell and back. In the episodes that she has been in since returning she has seemed, I guess less emotionally involved (?). I'm not sure exactly how to describe it but I can see her doing what she has to do to further her own agenda and her own career.


Additionally, we all know how Olivia can be when it comes to justice for victims. Does anyone remember "Blinded" ? She reported that case to the FBI and when she wasn't happy with the way Casey handled it she went to her boss and told him she couldn't be objective in the case because of her ex-fiancee's schizophrenia. Going head to head with an ADA is not new for Olivia...

AGREED!


ANDREA

Hey, sometimes the speculation is more interesting than the episode.

Alex has changed since she first appeared in Hardwired. She did seem rather like herself when she reappeared in her 6 episodes run Lead-Liberties however. Maybe there's going to be a 'bomb' of some sort as there was one for Paxton? Or could be just residue writing from Greyleck/Paxton's coldness (however I like Paxton way much better then I did with Greyleck).

It is hard to say if Alex is different because we have probably only seen her a grand total of 5 minutes in the episodes Users and Hardwired. That being said I do think the glimpses that we got of her in the episode Users did make her seem different. It seemed totally out of character when she said, "Actual paw prints." I mean it was funny but it did not seem like the Cabot of old.



I agree!

Well according to NBC.com it does say that Christine Lahti will return for this episode. Should be very interesting!!!! Stabler won't be very happy would he? lol...

I finally got to watch the previews on the NBC site (I'm on my Aunt's computer now) and it's nice to see that Dickie has been referred to as Richard, and as Dickie too. No more Dick (I hope!)

I'm kind of betting that Alex going over Elliot's head is what made Liv so mad. She's always been very protective over him. Remember in Blinded when she went over Casey's head, it was all basically in defense of Elliot. At times it seems that Elliot can do no wrong in her eyes.

Liv protects El like crazy, and that is one of the things I love about these 2, but I don't think she believes he walks on water. It's like no matter what the person does, you love them. Liv gets El and she calms him. How many people would work with El for 11 years?

El's intentions are always good, but he's El, and sometimes, only Liv can deal with him.

Does this make sense?


ANDREA

JoannaN Posted Today, 01:56 AM
I'm kind of betting that Alex going over Elliot's head is what made Liv so mad. She's always been very protective over him. Remember in Blinded when she went over Casey's head, it was all basically in defense of Elliot. At times it seems that Elliot can do no wrong in her eyes.

Olivia did not go over Casey's head in Blinded in defense of Elliot. She went over Casey's head and behind Cragen''s back because she blamed a mentally ill man for injuring Elliot. She was pissed at Casey because Casey was interested in justice and not revenge. It had nothing to do with Elliot or the two girls that Picard hurt while he was delusional. Olivia was just angry that she was being shut out of anything having to do with Elliot.

Liv's actions were because El was hurt, and she didn't want the perp to get away with it, which is why she called the Feds. Casey was interested in justice for her ex fiance, and she was using the case to do it. Bottom Line!


ANDREA

I agree.
I think Casey blames herself for Charlie's death, and helping Piccard was her way of kind giving back. She didn't help him, so she tried to help Piccard in return.

DeliviaIStheWAYitSHOULDbe Posted Today, 05:59 PM
Liv's actions were because El was hurt, and she didn't want the perp to get away with it, which is why she called the Feds. Casey was interested in justice for her ex fiance, and she was using the case to do it. Bottom Line!

No. When Casey asked why she ratted her out to the DA, Olivia stated, "I wanted revenge." That's not an interpretation. That's a quote from Blinded. It wasn't about Elliot or the girls. It was about Olivia being angry and out of control.
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DeliviaIStheWAYitSHOULDbe Posted Today, 05:36 PM
Liv protects El like crazy, and that is one of the things I love about these 2, but I don't think she believes he walks on water. It's like no matter what the person does, you love them. Liv gets El and she calms him. How many people would work with El for 11 years?
El's intentions are always good, but he's El, and sometimes, only Liv can deal with him.
Does this make sense?

Again no. Olivia does not protect Elliot because she loves him. She has a fantasy that she has built up over the years that she and Elliot are special beyond being partners. And she will do anything to protect that fantasy. Blinded is the perfect example. Elliot gets hurt and Olivia feels responsible because she didn't prevent it. She waits at the hospital but Elliot wants Kathy for comfort, not Olivia. She takes that anger and takes it out on Picard. She tells the Feds where he is so they can take him to LA and execute him. She can play the hero having gotten the bad guy punished. But Casey eventually realizes that Picard isn't responsible for his actions and gets him where he belongs. She doesn't use the best method but she does get there. Olivia has to punish Casey for taking her hero status away.

Olivia doesn't understand Elliot. She never has because Elliot doesn't tell her about himself. The only times he has ever said anything personal about himself is when he is already upset and Olivia chases him down. But she doesn't calm him down, and she doesn't pick up on when things are wrong with him until it is blatantly obvious.
Cragen gets Elliot. He is the person from work that pull things out of Elliot to get him to think about what he's feeling. He understands how hard it is to balance family with work. He understands how easy it is to let the job take over your life. Olivia doesn't understand that because she has no personal life, no family, or anything outside of work. In that respect she is the worst possible partner for Elliot because he feels he would be letting his partner down by leaving her to stay at work while he goes home to his family. At least in the first season Olivia got that Elliot's family is what keeps him grounded and able to keep doing his job. But she has lost that little bit of perspective that she once had.

Elliot is a good cop who understands what being partners with someone means. Olivia is still at SVU because of Elliot. Cragen was ready to have her leave SVU in Payback. Elliot took her under his wing and taught her how to handle herself. She is lucky he has kept her as a partner, not the other way around.

Ouch...that hurts.

I have to respectfully disagree here. Olivia was not out of control at all. She wanted revenge against Picard for what he had done to Elliot. She was methodical. Her protectiveness was clear throughout the entire ep, but especially when Casey wanted to talk to Eliot to testify and Liv was telling Casey to leave Elliot alone so he could heal, etc. etc. Olivia apologized to Casey for calling her out on her boyfriend's background, and apologized because she had done it out of revenge for what had happened to Elliot. She wanted what she felt was justice for him. That's why she gave him to the Feds and hoped that he would be extradited because she didn't believe Casey would take the case all the way and that Picard would be punished.



I disagree here as well. Olivia does understand Elliot. Even Kathy has told Olivia that she understands things about Elliot that Kathy never will and that Olivia helps Elliot feel the ground underneath him so he can move on. The show shows us the partnership between them is close, as in Philadelphia when the psychiatrist tells Cragen that Olivia and Elliot are emotionally dependent on each other, etc. etc., but that they are great detectives when they are together. I don't think Olivia has any illusions about Elliot at all. She knows his anger issues, she knows he shuts people out, and I believe she gets him. They choose each other over the job and the show has shown us that time and again. Elliot does the same thing with Olivia. They know each other, they get each other and are there for each other.



Olivia has respected Elliot's family for as long as I have watched this show. When Kathy calls to ask her to meet, Olivia meets her. When Elliot complained that Kathy was upset he was shutting her out, Olivia told him he was shutting her out and if he didn't stop it he would lose Kathy. I think Olivia has been a very supportive partner to Elliot and probably the best one he could have with the issues he has personally.

I admit, I love SVU and the interactions with Benson and Stabler. They have a protectiveness toward each other and a partnership that I think is real and deep. They yell at each other, they argue over cases, they get mad, but at the end of the day they're there for each other no matter what.

I admit, I love SVU and the interactions with Benson and Stabler. They have a protectiveness toward each other and a partnership that I think is real and deep. They yell at each other, they argue over cases, they get mad, but at the end of the day they're there for each other no matter what.
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I agree! This is what I love about SVU. I definetly think it's a two way street. They are close and are protective over each other. That's why they take up for each other, even when the other one is wrong or made a mistake. It also seems to me that Olivia has always had his family's best interest at heart. I can't recall the names of the eps, but I remember several where she told him that he should go home and spend time with his family. Also, like someone stated earlier, she kept Kathy from leaving in Wildlife. And yeah, maybe she was a little bitchy to Casey in Blinded, but so what? How many times was it the other way around. Anyway I like to see that side of Liv. She doesn't always have to be nice, sweet and calm...

What about her revenge for Picard for those little girls that he had hurt? She's supposed to fight and protect for the victims, not for her partner (unless they were at some shootout or something). Casey said to Olivia that Elliot was allowed to testify during his recovery which Olivia should know about. Elliot said himself that he's a big boy, he doesn't need Olivia to be making the decisions for him. And hisgirl was right about Elliot not opening up to Olivia, she doesn't know everything about him. It took her 10 years to find out that his mother was alive! And it wasn't from Elliot himself. How often have we heard Olivia say "what's going on? Would you talk to me???" and confront him on what was going on with him.

Casey knew Charlie needed help and at the time she didn't know how which happens all the time to everyone. She left him, Charlie died and now she had a chance to help someone else who had the same condition as Charlie.

You are correct, but the point is about Liv's motives in that eppy in relation to El. We know how Liv is about her victims, but this was about El. Casey was so far beyond out of line, and I was glad to see Jack McCoy reel her in.

When Liv asks El to open up, it's for the sake of helping him because she cares. El just jumps in and helps Liv when he feels she needs it. Philly was a great example. He was staked out in his car knowing Liv should not have been there, and then when he watches her being man handled, El jumps out of that car so fast. EO help each other the same, but how is different. El knows when he needs to help Liv w/out Liv saying a word, but with El, we don't know anything until after everything blows. It's not just Liv, it's Kathy as well.

Liv does not need El to open up to her because she accepts that he is closed off at times (she is nonetheless there for him each and every time). Even in Swing, Liv's problem was not that El didn't tell her about the situation with his mother but that he would not humble himself long enough to do what it took to correct the situation. Which is why she jumped in and did her part. Liv has done this for El time and time again. She does not interfere or pry, so it really does not matter that El does not tell her everything. El didn't know about the mess with the feds until it had already boiled over for Liv, but he knew something was up (hence him shaddowing her in Philly). After that, El was front and center to help Liv. He even withheld information from Cragen.

EO are tight, and even as a Delivia lover, I realize this.

JMorgan nailed it! Love your post!


ANDREA

I agree with you, Casey wanted to help someone that seemed to be in Charlie's shoes. But she threw the case to do it and manipulated Elliot on the stand to get her way so Picard couldn't be found competent to stand trial. Ever. He would be in a hospital and not a prison cell, until he was "better." That was the crux of the show. She helped the defense win the case for personal reasons.

As to Olivia's revenge, if you'll recall, Olivia has the confrontation with Casey where she straight out says she went to the Feds so Picard would be taken to Louisiana so those little girls would get justice. Casey tells Olivia that what she's talking about isn't justice, it's revenge, and Olivia says, "he's my partner, Casey." So, really, I think she saw that she could get justice for the girls and payback for Elliot all in one fell swoop. And in the squadroom when they are talking about capital punishment and Lake is saying it's not a deterrent, Olivia says that if carried out, they'll never hurt anyone again. So, her point of view seemed quite clear to me. She wanted justice for the little girls and a little payback for Elliot.

As for Olivia not knowing everything about Elliot, I agree, she doesn't. In one episode, an attorney says to Elliot, "You don't have many friends, do you?" and honestly, I don't think he does. However, I do think that Olivia knows him very well. She tells Porter that her and Elliot are best friends and I think that is true. They depend on each other, they can read each other, and frankly, I don't think they have to know everything about each other. But, again, I think they do know each other very well. For example, Elliot figured out Olivia wanted a baby. He tried to offer his support, she shut him out until the end when she told him she'd looked into adoption and they'd turned her down since she wasn't "prime parent material." His two words, "they're wrong," said it all. He knows her. And the same for him. During Swing, when he's taking a break in the crib and Olivia comes in and they talk, he confides in her the reasons why he did what he did, that he felt he didn't have any other choice. She gives him an outlet to discuss his feelings about his divorce when he didn't want Kathy to ever regret him, Olivia knew Elliot's dad wasn't very good to him, for me, it's obvious they tell each other a lot of personal things. I mean, I guess I just don't see where they have to know everything about each other to truly be best friends and partners. They know and have seen a lot together. They have a deep bond. At least, that's what I see. And I love that about them.

Thanks Andrea! I just wanted to say, Elliot snarking on Porter during Spooked was so funny! "Do you need a lift home?" "No, thanks, I'm good." and the whole, "nice shot," thing. HAHA. I wish Porter had stuck around just for the dynamic between Elliot, Liv, and Porter. Spooked was a really good show for quotable moments.

Spooked could be an example post of its own. El has gotten so used to being the only male in Liv's life that "blocking" came naturally, and he thought it was funny (so did I).



ANDREA