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ProfessorAwesome
Lol at Stott! "Why is everybody crying".
Tobias2343
Great clip...can't wait for this episode tomorrow night! By the way, I noticed this in "Birthday" and noticed it again in this clip...doesn't T.K. have a great, natural chemistry with Monk, Natalie, Randy, and Stottlemeyer? That says a lot about the abilities of the actress and the writers themselves who inserted the character...I love the way they all pretend not to know what's going on, and even T.K. plays along with them and does a great job! Too bad she wasn't introduced earlier...I think she could have been a really interesting character if given more time to develop! smile.gif
Liv
QUOTE (Tobias2343 @ Nov 12 2009, 09:27 PM) *
Great clip...can't wait for this episode tomorrow night! By the way, I noticed this in "Birthday" and noticed it again in this clip...doesn't T.K. have a great, natural chemistry with Monk, Natalie, Randy, and Stottlemeyer? That says a lot about the abilities of the actress and the writers themselves who inserted the character...I love the way they all pretend not to know what's going on, and even T.K. plays along with them and does a great job! Too bad she wasn't introduced earlier...I think she could have been a really interesting character if given more time to develop! smile.gif


I guess it's that time anomaly in Monkland again.

And I do like her much better than Linda, she does seem to be at ease and fit in with the rest well enough, and she doesn't have that huge ego that Linda had. She certainly was *not* pushy and self important and for that, I am very grateful.

If she turned out to be the killer, it wouldn't thrill me the way it did when Linda was, but it wouldn't upset me unduly, either. Except that it would feel like a recycled plot that they didn't try to polish up and make new again hard enough. The lazy writing would bug me, and I wouldn't be nearly happy enough to overlook it.

Just had a thought-
Spoiler:
Wow, wouldn't it have sucked big time if Monk told her, in front of Natalie and Randy, that he was going to propose, and either he was wrong after she got so excited, *or* if she didn't want to marry him and she had to turn him down in front of Natalie, Randy, Monk, and the entire squad room? Lucky for everyone concerned, he is apparently never wrong, especially about reading his best friend.
jseven03
alex455
Another scene from tonight's episode
jo43
This is going to be such a GOOD episode!!! I can hardly wait for 9pm!!
Tweedlebug
QUOTE (alex455 @ Nov 13 2009, 01:25 PM) *
Another scene from tonight's episode



Cool clip! Thanks Alex, since Monk already knows her name I guess that means Natalie's probably not there cause of Monk
jack346
Thanks for the clips!

QUOTE (jo43 @ Nov 13 2009, 12:44 PM) *
This is going to be such a GOOD episode!!! I can hardly wait for 9pm!!


Me too!!! laugh.gif
Tweedlebug
Spoiler:


Scene from the show
lovethatmonk
Can't wait until this one comes on...got my evening planned...pizza, a nice beer and Monk...ah life is good!



LTM

jseven03
Behind the scenes for "Mr. Monk is the Best Man"
http://video.usanetwork.com/series/monk/self


plus if u look there is monk set tour 2 - tour of monks apartmant
Liv
I'm sure this is supposed to tell us that everyone is just very, very happy for Stottelemeyer, and he's supposed to be very, very happy, but... I'm sorry, all I can think is cheese. I happen to agree with what'sher face- Stephanie? That is kind of nauseating.

I got married at 18. I've had a good marriage, nineteen years happy years. I guess I should be all about this romanticism and starry eyed crap, but I'm just... not. It's just a bit overboard and making me want to throw up a little in my mouth.

This is a guy who spent 20+ years arguing with his first wife, almost proposed to a murderer, and he's this thrilled to be going into marriage again?Maybe it's because I have had nineteen years of a happy marriage that this just seems too much and fake. I don't know, but if this saccharine stuff sdoesn't stop really damn quick, I'm stopping the recording and deleting this off my DVR. I hope the last three episodes won't be this annoying.

Too bad the Maid of honeor is the guy, I almost like her.

Francis!

Okay, now I don't like her anymore. Stephanie sucks. She is also a former guerrilla environmentalist.
knight
How do I watch the new monk
knight
QUOTE (Kawasakifan @ Sep 16 2009, 04:41 PM) *
Hi.

I see we are kindred spirits! I know one viewer in Japan who would switch channels. burn all of the .
tapes marked "Monk" and delete all of his ignoble comments.

KF



how do I watch the new monk online?
Tweedlebug
I caught the last 15 minutes.... I liked the beach wedding and the sunset at the end. I'll watch the episode when it comes on again in a couple hours
icdogg
QUOTE (Liv @ Nov 13 2009, 10:19 PM) *
I'm sure this is supposed to tell us that everyone is just very, very happy for Stottelemeyer, and he's supposed to be very, very happy, but... I'm sorry, all I can think is cheese. I happen to agree with what'sher face- Stephanie? That is kind of nauseating.

I got married at 18. I've had a good marriage, nineteen years happy years. I guess I should be all about this romanticism and starry eyed crap, but I'm just... not. It's just a bit overboard and making me want to throw up a little in my mouth.

This is a guy who spent 20+ years arguing with his first wife, almost proposed to a murderer, and he's this thrilled to be going into marriage again?Maybe it's because I have had nineteen years of a happy marriage that this just seems too much and fake. I don't know, but if this saccharine stuff sdoesn't stop really damn quick, I'm stopping the recording and deleting this off my DVR. I hope the last three episodes won't be this annoying.

Too bad the Maid of honeor is the guy, I almost like her.

Francis!

Okay, now I don't like her anymore. Stephanie sucks. She is also a former guerrilla environmentalist.

I've been with my wife now for 30 years... and we both thought the episode was cute. Of course, our marriage is probably more dysfunctional than yours laugh.gif
Tobias2343
Well, I am going to differ with Liz here...I really enjoyed the episode! I am a true romantic at heart, and I especially enjoyed Natalie telling T.K. about why she chose to marry Mitch and why she would do it over again...it's been a while since we've heard from her about that! I also always enjoy Monk's "Trudy" moments, and when he told Stottlemeyer that T.K. was "his answer," because that was something his Trudy used to say to him, I really liked that!

Here are some of my other thoughts on the episode:

-I felt SO BAD for Monk during the bachelor party...he was trying so hard. That was a little tough to watch, although I must admit...I'm not the drinking/wild partying/stripper-loving type, either, so when I get married someday, I'm either going to have to forgo the bachelor party or go Monk's route...in all seriousness! lol, but I felt really bad for him, he was so happy and he was trying so hard to put on a nice party for his friend...it was a little hard to watch, but it was also kind of sweet, too. And Stottlemeyer was a good sport, good for him! smile.gif

-Could it have been any more obvious from the beginning who "the guy" was? But that's okay...I thought the episode in general was very well done with all the surprise mishaps even though it was clear who was responsible...the exploding gift in the church especially caught me by surprise.

-Okay, so who caught the Albright reference? He was supposed to be Natalie's date for the wedding. Ugh...clearly they're mentioning him because, as we all know by now, he's returning for the finale. Ugh ugh ugh ugh...I do NOT want to see them get together, it's just so WRONG! I don't even care if Monk/Nat don't get together, Nat/Albright just seems so wrong, and feels so forced. I'm still hoping she'll ultimately reject him. And yes, before this comment starts World War III, I realize this scene at the end was not thrown in there to mislead us, but I LOVED seeing Monk and Natalie walk out of the ceremony arm in arm. smile.gif
BluestockingMom
Is it just me or is anyone else struck by how much the minister in this episode looks and sounds like Tony Shalhoub????
Tobias2343
QUOTE (BluestockingMom @ Nov 13 2009, 11:26 PM) *
Is it just me or is anyone else struck by how much the minister in this episode looks and sounds like Tony Shalhoub????


He's Tony's brother Michael. smile.gif
BluestockingMom
QUOTE (BluestockingMom @ Nov 13 2009, 11:26 PM) *
Is it just me or is anyone else struck by how much the minister in this episode looks and sounds like Tony Shalhoub????

picturefreezer
Although I do agree with the rushed aspect of the wedding, I think Virginia Madison did a great job with her role in this episode, as of course did Mr. Levine smile.gif

I thought Nat's speech felt very touching and LOVED Monk's reaction to being the best man throughout the whole episode, especially the way he mentioned His Trudy both times in the Capt's office. So sweet! And for some reason I just fell in love with Carol Kane lol I guess I am just naturally drawn to eccentric and offbeat characters

As for impressions it gave about what may happen in the upcoming final episodes:

Spoiler:
I wouldn't be very much in favor of Natalie being paired off with Lt. Albright, but I did get the impression from how she metinoed him briefly to Stephanie and T.K. that maybe they are either already dating or will begin dating in the next few episodes. Again, NOT in favor of either of those scenarios because of the VERY little screen-time Albright's had, but if that is what ends up happening I have to say the writers are beginning to ease the viewers into it very well. She really had a cute and adorable bragging tone when she was talking about him being her escort according to the original wedding plans. I think it would be a great plot twist for Albright to really be guest staring in The End as a surprise villain of sorts, but if not then at least the writers are starting to hint at the possibility of a Natalie/Albright romance now instead of not mentioning him at all until his actual appearance. Still, fingers crossed he'll be there for more of a reason than this because I'd rather see the writers focus at least 98% of their attention in the next episodes on Monk solving Trudy's murder and maybe some hidden answers about undrelying reasons for Mitch's death as well, and since Nat is such a central character in Monk's life I think if we were to see a romantic relationship develop, with Albright or with anyone else, it would warrant more than 2% airtime.
BluestockingMom
QUOTE (Tobias2343 @ Nov 13 2009, 11:28 PM) *
He's Tony's brother Michael. smile.gif



Thank you Tobias! How did you know that? I looked up the episode on IMDB but didn't find anything...
Tobias2343
Spoiler:
picturefreezer, that's exactly how I feel. If they are choosing to go the Albright route, at least they are giving us more notice than him showing up in the finale. However, even that is not enough...as it has been said many times before, giving Stottlemeyer another chance at love makes sense because his love life has been a central storyline throughout the series. For Natalie, it has not...I don't NEED Natalie to be in a relationship just to provide closure for her character. Giving her a relationship just for the sake of wrapping the series feels too forced to me, especially when she's already been confronted with this Albright temptation before, and in my opinion, rightfully decided that it just didn't feel right. But we'll see!
Tobias2343
QUOTE (BluestockingMom @ Nov 13 2009, 11:36 PM) *
Thank you Tobias! How did you know that? I looked up the episode on IMDB but didn't find anything...


You're welcome! I read it in another thread here...or maybe even earlier in this thread. Other fans knew who he was and mentioned he was playing the minister in this episode.
ProfessorAwesome
QUOTE (Tobias2343 @ Nov 13 2009, 10:39 PM) *
Spoiler:
picturefreezer, that's exactly how I feel. If they are choosing to go the Albright route, at least they are giving us more notice than him showing up in the finale. However, even that is not enough...as it has been said many times before, giving Stottlemeyer another chance at love makes sense because his love life has been a central storyline throughout the series. For Natalie, it has not...I don't NEED Natalie to be in a relationship just to provide closure for her character. Giving her a relationship just for the sake of wrapping the series feels too forced to me, especially when she's already been confronted with this Albright temptation before, and in my opinion, rightfully decided that it just didn't feel right. But we'll see!



Spoiler:
I still don't feel right about Albright. I keep thinking something is off about the guy, my theory (which I've said many times) is that he is part of what Trudy was investigating and also directly responsible for Mitch's death.


About the episode it's self I liked it, though it wasn't quite what I expected.
monanic10
QUOTE (Tobias2343 @ Nov 13 2009, 11:40 PM) *
You're welcome! I read it in another thread here...or maybe even earlier in this thread. Other fans knew who he was and mentioned he was playing the minister in this episode.


Yes, this was Michael Shalhoub's third guest star role on Monk. He played a leader of the Lightning Brigade in Mr. Monk and the Missing Granny, and played Ned the Beekeeper in Mr. Monk Bumps his Head. Obviously, he is in this one too, as the priest.
crazychrismonker
BUGS BUNNY: You know, it always helps a picture to have a romantic ending...

While it was fairly clear not that long in that the maid of honor was the killer, it was still a good episode all in all, particularly with a large number of Disher moments ("What do we know about him?" "He's flammable."), and Monk being the mother of all ring bearers (I'll admit I was convinced he would lose it after he promised to take good care of it; that he did so well deserves much commendation). Hopefully for the captain, the 4th time's the charm, and if we hear nothing else from here on, I guess we can assume it will be, and he by all means deserves it. Now let's see how things pan out with everyone else from here on. I'll confess that it was during this week that it started to finally set in for me that the end is nigh, and it probably will take time to adjust, but as Natalie would probably say, you can only go forward come what may, and so we shall regardless of what the future holds.
picturefreezer
QUOTE (Tobias2343 @ Nov 13 2009, 11:39 PM) *
Spoiler:
picturefreezer, that's exactly how I feel. If they are choosing to go the Albright route, at least they are giving us more notice than him showing up in the finale. However, even that is not enough...as it has been said many times before, giving Stottlemeyer another chance at love makes sense because his love life has been a central storyline throughout the series. For Natalie, it has not...I don't NEED Natalie to be in a relationship just to provide closure for her character. Giving her a relationship just for the sake of wrapping the series feels too forced to me, especially when she's already been confronted with this Albright temptation before, and in my opinion, rightfully decided that it just didn't feel right. But we'll see!


I agree wholeheartedly, especially about the last part.

Plus, I don't think it can never be overstated just how creepy Albright was hitting on her the way he did in the Underwater ep in the first place, but it sounds like the reasons for the ick-factor there have been discussed more than enough already in several threads lol
Tweedlebug
QUOTE (monanic10 @ Nov 13 2009, 10:46 PM) *
Yes, this was Michael Shalhoub's third guest star role on Monk. He played a leader of the Lightning Brigade in Mr. Monk and the Missing Granny, and played Ned the Beekeeper in Mr. Monk Bumps his Head. Obviously, he is in this one too, as the priest.



I've read that Tony's wife guest stars in the next episode. Anyone know if thats true?
monanic10
QUOTE (Tweedlebug @ Nov 13 2009, 11:56 PM) *
I've read that Tony's wife guest stars in the next episode. Anyone know if thats true?


No, I don't think so, sorry. She has been in four episodes though: Mr. Monk and the Airplane, Mr. Monk Goes to the Farm, Mr. Monk and the 100th case, and Mr. Monk and the Kid.
Tobias2343
QUOTE (Tweedlebug @ Nov 13 2009, 11:56 PM) *
I've read that Tony's wife guest stars in the next episode. Anyone know if thats true?


Actually, this IS true. According to TV Guide, she's guest starring...not sure what her role will be, but she'll definitely be there next week! smile.gif
monanic10
QUOTE (Tobias2343 @ Nov 14 2009, 12:05 AM) *
Actually, this IS true. According to TV Guide, she's guest starring...not sure what her role will be, but she'll definitely be there next week! smile.gif


Oh, ok, well thank you, Tobias! I certainly hope that she is on, I like episodes with Brooke Adams! =)
drinkduff99
I enjoyed this episode a lot more than I thought I would. It was a little cheesey, but I've always felt like Stottlemeyer was kind of a cheesey guy, in a good way, of course. I'm glad T.K. pinned his badge on him at the end to prove she supported him being a cop. It alwyas annoyed me that Karen seemed so unsupportive of his job, even going so far as to tell him not to carry a gun. When T.K. was making him keep his gun in the car, it reminded me of Karen, but she redeemed herself by not letting him quit the force and accepting that being a cop is who he is.
Natalie's speech to T.K. was sweet and I really liked it. It reminded me of how Monk talks about Trudy. I could have done without the line, "He bleeds blue" though.
I love Disher's song and Disher getting drunk was great too. "Flames on the windshield!!!" And Disher playing the wedding march at the rehearsel was fantastic.
I loved the bachelor party. Monk, obviously was out of touch with what a bachelor party should be, but Leland didn't seem to care. He knew what a Monk party would be like, and he had him plan it anyway.

Overall, 100 times better than last week.

Also, all of the Monk /Stottleymeyer moments were great.
MonkfanGD
QUOTE (Liv @ Nov 13 2009, 09:19 PM) *
I'm sure this is supposed to tell us that everyone is just very, very happy for Stottelemeyer, and he's supposed to be very, very happy, but... I'm sorry, all I can think is cheese. I happen to agree with what'sher face- Stephanie? That is kind of nauseating.

I got married at 18. I've had a good marriage, nineteen years happy years. I guess I should be all about this romanticism and starry eyed crap, but I'm just... not. It's just a bit overboard and making me want to throw up a little in my mouth.

This is a guy who spent 20+ years arguing with his first wife, almost proposed to a murderer, and he's this thrilled to be going into marriage again?Maybe it's because I have had nineteen years of a happy marriage that this just seems too much and fake. I don't know, but if this saccharine stuff sdoesn't stop really damn quick, I'm stopping the recording and deleting this off my DVR. I hope the last three episodes won't be this annoying.

Too bad the Maid of honeor is the guy, I almost like her.

Francis!

Okay, now I don't like her anymore. Stephanie sucks. She is also a former guerrilla environmentalist.


I haven't seen this episode yet, so I can't comment on the content. But in regards to Stottlemeyer's love life-

Who said he and Karen were arguing for twenty years? I've always gotten the impression that they were happy for a long time, but as happens, grew apart. In a marriage, just as we change and grow over the years, the marriage has to adapt to those changes or it falls into ruin.

As far as the killer girlfriend, whose name slips my mind, I seriously doubt that she was some violent looney with an itchy trigger finger. I don't think she reveled in the idea of killing. She was, as many business people are, someone who would do whatever it took to succeed (evidenced by her not thinking twice about trying to seduce Monk). When she saw all that she'd worked for about to disappear, she did what she felt she had to do. Of course it was wrong, but that's the reality. She however was also clearly a very passionate, sexy woman. So it's easy to see why Leland would be taken with her. And, I think she did genuinely love Leland. as much as is possible for someone like her.

Which brings us to the present. While I somewhat agree that things might seem a bit rushed, it's also true that people of Leland and T.K.'s age are more self-aware and certain about what they want. They've been through the relationship mill and are more able to connect on a deeper level faster when its the right person. It's like the difference between a student driver trying to get through dense traffic and an experiecned one.
Andy115
QUOTE (Kawasakifan @ Nov 14 2009, 01:05 AM) *
I wonder if this is Natalie's big secret, tantalizing suggested in such a reference. If it is, it will only the second time (following Run) that the writers have linked two episodes together but don't always accept what would seem to be the inevitable for the writers enjoy being too unpredicable and so perhaps we should withhold final judgement till the last episode, then for those who want to, curse the writers, throw away the tapes and burn the books afterwards.

KF



LOL in my case I probably wouldn't buy the DVD set. Save myself the trouble of having to burn something.

Pretty good episode. Love the Disher moments - what a great character. He can be a serious cop and a bumbling naive man at the same time (love that flower scene) at the same time. I would love for him to write and sing a great song just to see the look on everyone's face when that happens, especially Natalie since she's listened to all of them and pretended they were good to make him feel better.

Now that Leland's married but not quitting the force, the logical conclusion for him would be a promotion to Commissioner/Chief. I hope it happens.

The bachelor party was a bit difficult to watch but had its moments - 1 beer per person, not enough to get everyone drunk but enough for one person laugh.gif

Only 3 more left..... sad.gif
DisherTheories
QUOTE (MonkfanGD @ Nov 14 2009, 01:27 AM) *
I haven't seen this episode yet, so I can't comment on the content. But in regards to Stottlemeyer's love life-

Who said he and Karen were arguing for twenty years? I've always gotten the impression that they were happy for a long time, but as happens, grew apart. In a marriage, just as we change and grow over the years, the marriage has to adapt to those changes or it falls into ruin.

As far as the killer girlfriend, whose name slips my mind, I seriously doubt that she was some violent looney with an itchy trigger finger. I don't think she reveled in the idea of killing. She was, as many business people are, someone who would do whatever it took to succeed (evidenced by her not thinking twice about trying to seduce Monk). When she saw all that she'd worked for about to disappear, she did what she felt she had to do. Of course it was wrong, but that's the reality. She however was also clearly a very passionate, sexy woman. So it's easy to see why Leland would be taken with her. And, I think she did genuinely love Leland. as much as is possible for someone like her.

Which brings us to the present. While I somewhat agree that things might seem a bit rushed, it's also true that people of Leland and T.K.'s age are more self-aware and certain about what they want. They've been through the relationship mill and are more able to connect on a deeper level faster when its the right person. It's like the difference between a student driver trying to get through dense traffic and an experiecned one.


Leland and Karen have had their arguements since episode 1 (he was staying at Red Roof Inn in the pilot). They made up, they fought again. They just didn't want to make it work.
Beholder
Loved it , of course....
How can I not? It's Monk!

Randy...loved the song. Natalie...spoiling Randy's "gift"...LOL smile.gif

Cap....loved you rehersing the proposal. MONK....figuring it out....poor captain.... smile.gif


The only sad part was seeing the commercial that there were only 3 episodes left. sad.gif

I will miss this series.

B
MrsNatalieMonk
This episode was so cute it was nauseating! And before anyone thinks I'm criticizing it, I'm totally not. That's kind of my catch phrase for things that I LOVE. I absolutely love fluffy, cute, adorable, saccharine things. I live with one foot in reality and the other in the clouds and am happy to keep it that way. This episode was right up my alley.

Favorite Moments:

1. Randy's song! YAY!
2. Natalie talking about Mitch. We finally have a year for his death and their marriage both. It's about time.
3. Carol Kane = Fabulous ^^ Plastic flower.
4. Drunk Randy trying to describe a burning car was made of win.
5. Actually, everything with Randy tongue.gif

Lease Favorite Moments

1. "He bleeds blue." Who says that? Honestly?
2. Leland shouting T.K. I would have loved to hear him shout Trudy at least once or twice to prove his truly panicked state.
3. Too easy to solve. As soon as she tried to get the tux back for just a second, I knew it was Stephanie and that it was all about the tux.
4. The wedding scene was too short. Just Leland, T.K., Monk, Natalie and Randy? Not entirely believable. But if that's what the Captain wanted, I guess the poor families just have to live with it.
Chibizaki
I enjoyed seeing Monk soooo happy in this episode. It's so nice to see him smiling a lot. It makes up for that bit of disappointing feeling at the end from last week. I think it shows how much he's making a conscious effort to be more happy. Like I thought he'd be a little bit down from the previous ep's occurrence but it could be that there was a lot more time that had passed than one might think. I wonder how much? 6 weeks maybe since ep9-13 is 6 months...

Anyway...


I'm glad that Monk didn't freak out about T.K's name and how warm and receptive he was about it. "Everyone should have a Trudy in their life" - I loved that line. The entire interaction with Monk and Stott was great. I think this ep really illustrated how strong their "20-even years, but mostly odd" have been.

I have to agree with an earlier poster that the bachelor party was not easy to watch. I too am not the wild party-going-type so I actually wouldn't mind a party like the one Monk held (except I would like at least tomato sauce and cheese on my pizza biggrin.gif). I can't drink either so I'd probably enjoy seeing someone like Randy get drunk instead. Though the other guests seemed weirded out, I'm at least glad that Randy and Stott were really supportive about it and understood how hard Monk planned it.

I REALLY liked the florist and I'm glad she wasn't "the guy". biggrin.gif I love "free-spirit" type characters. Though I had my suspicions about the original maid of honour from the moment she said she was nauseas, I was like "please don't let it be the florist" because I liked her that much. Also... here I noticed how Monk was really uncomfortable around the florist, but was quite OK with "shaking fist" with T.K., having Stott grab his hand to put the ring in it, then at the end have Stott peel open his fingers, and letting Nat take his arm all without cringing. I think his comfort zone is definitely widening.

I LOVED the steel drum and solo guitar arrangements of Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy's Wedding March.

I wonder about one thing though... Monk is right-handed right? I mean I saw him try to initial something in the beginning.... so I wonder how he managed to go 9 days without using his dominant hand if we are to assume that he never opened that hand (re: fingers stuck). Maybe he's ambidextrous now that I think of it with his being particular to evenness....? I can picture him practising... "Each hand MUST be able to do what the other can do! Doesn't everyone learn to write, eat, draw, throw, and shoot with both?"

Also... is it just me or is the "Aunt" not in the final wedding? Edited: But her father was. (I though he was her uncle because there was no formal intro but remembered the scene where Monk wanted to walk TK's dad down the aisle).
drinkduff99
QUOTE (MrsNatalieMonk @ Nov 14 2009, 02:03 AM) *
Lease Favorite Moments

1. "He bleeds blue." Who says that? Honestly?


Agreed. That bugged me too.
dishergroupie
I enjoyed this episode, maybe I'm more easily pleased than others, or maybe it's because there were lots of Disher moments!!

Ahhhhhh Randy, the designated drunk. *sigh* Who knew his musical talents were so diverse??? And such a beautiful song he wrote for the Captain. Ok, so maybe he "borrowed" a tune, but it's the thought that counts....... I'd let him write songs for me!

And the comment "He's flammable" had me in tears! JGS & Ted Levine are such a cool double act. Impeccable delivery of one-liners.
K100
My favorite part was when Natalie was talking about Mitch. She really has never opened up in that way (well, maybe she has…I just cant remember), and Traylor Howard got to show off some of her acting skills. I liked it. It also worked well in reminding the audience of her past.

Oh, and we never see Natalie around other women…It was cool seeing her have that kind of friendly interaction with another woman, she is always with the guys.

Maybe T.K. and Natalie will become best friends and stay up late talking and share all of their secrets and eat chocolate. laugh.gif

Tweedlebug
juice boxes with sippy straws at the party laugh.gif
jo43
I loved everything about this episode!!! All the things people have already mentioned that were their favorite parts...me too!!!!
Austria
There is a mistake in this episode.
Natalie said her man was a pilot and was shot down in 1998. But the Kosovo war started on 24.March 1999.
icdogg
So, why would the "Earth Avengers" have wanted to kill Trudy?
icdogg
QUOTE (Austria @ Nov 14 2009, 11:24 AM) *
There is a mistake in this episode.
Natalie said her man was a pilot and was shot down in 1998. But the Kosovo war started on 24.March 1999.

whoops
Liv
QUOTE (Kawasakifan @ Nov 13 2009, 10:00 PM) *
Was there another Liv ghost writing this review? This certainly differs from the usual level-headed, down to earth
wisdom ladened posts we are all accustomed to reading.

KF


This was Liv who had been awake for over 24 hours with a bad headache, KF. Sorry, I still wasn't happy with the episode, but I wouldn't have normally been this harsh. I've still got a lingering headache, but I've had some sleep, so I'm about 90% better.

This episode was still pretty much a nightmare episode for me. the mystery was like an afterthought, and I think I'm allergic to sappy romance. I can deal with it in small doses but when you have people in their fifties, going around giggling like they are teenagers, especially when one of them has actually been married twice before, and almost asked a murderer to marry him, yet he's acting like this is his first time around, it just seems like a bit much to me. I'm really not a romantic person, or not into the cliche over the top romanticism, like dancing at a crime scene. This is why I am so adamant about not wanting any relationships to happen on any show I get interested in, because I have such a low tolerance for the TV version of romance and love. Once romance happens on a show, the show might as well become a snowball rolling down a hill made up of cliche, stupid jokes, missing plots and no real substance.

I thought his "Holy monkey!" at the sight of the victim was funny, though. And I was *really* proud of Randy because he determined that the victim was shot first because his back wasn't as burned as his front meaning that if he'd been set on fire before he was shot, he would have rolled around and tried to put the fire out.

I still keep wondering why TK only thought that she might be making a mistake because she was marrying a cop, but the fact that she was going to be the third Mrs. Stottelmeyer and his brakes are shot didn't give her pause.

The maid of honer, I liked her because she said something about how nauseating they were, and I agreed with her, Then she became the most transparent 'the guy' I've ever seen. She kept doing and saying things that gave her away. It was as if she was *trying* to get caught. Speeding through a residential area after killing the victim, when all she had to do was drive at a normal speed, show up late and apologize, say she got lost or there was a hold up somewhere. Then she wouldn't have had to hide the gun, and later have to ransack Leland's place, or keep telling everyone that TK shouldn't be marrying a cop, or do any of the other things she did. There had to be a way that she could get access to Leland's tuxedo without blowing up a wedding present. She could say she needed to check something, was looking for a ticket or something. And a gun is pretty heavy, if Leland was lugging that garment bag around, he should have felt the gun in the bottom of the bag, bumping against stuff. This episode was like they put no thought into the mystery or the murderer's action.

I thought Randy's steal drum playing of 'Here Comes the Bride' was good, it was a very unique sound, even if it lasted too long and culminated in an explosive wedding gift. And his guitar version of the wedding march was good, too. Randy was pretty much the only character holding it together for me this week. He was the only one functioning at or above his normal level as an actual cop, and showing any talent.

I did enjoy Carol Kane as Joy, but her performance was too brief to really do much to up the quality of the overall episode. I liked her interaction with Tony, especially. My daughter didn't even know who she was and she loved her. She said, "Those flowers aren't the only plants she's growing there! She has a whole greenhouse full of plants for her own personal use!" I bet Joy makes awesome brownies.

I am hoping that the reason for these two weak episodes is that they were focusing all of their attention and working so hard on the next three. That would make the weaker writing for these two excusable to me because those three, or at the very least, the last two, revolving around Trudy's case, those *have* to be done well, they have got to be at least in the top ten best Monk episodes ever. As long as they are as good, or better than the average Monk episode, I can just forget this one and most of last week ever happened and I'll wish Leland the best of luck, third time's the charm and all that.
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IMO, the best eppy of the season thus far, and all due to the incredible, luscious Ted Levine. He really went into this late season romance with TK (aka Virginia Madsen) with great passion; the two of them did a great job, they have a wonderful chemistry together. Entertainment wise, it was enjoyable (I nearly spit out my ice cream when Disher started with that stupid copycat version of "Light My Fire") and it was nice to finally have a happy ending after so many disappointments this season. Even Natalie was less annoying than usual.

Yes, the mystery-murder was absurd; the maid of honor just happened to be an eco-terrorist on the lam who just happened to walk into the ONE florist shop in all of San Fran where one of her former comrades works. And the only way Monk figured it out was when she let slip that she had gotten the flowers from the same shop as the burned corpse. The nonsense about the gun in the tux--totally idiotic.

Who knew that Leland had a first marriage that ended in an annullment after 5 days?

What happened to his condo--where did the house come from?

His kids certainly got short shrift---absolutely no interaction between them and TK that I could fathom. They could have been ghosts for all they did.

It would have been nice to have some kind of resolution with Karen--even a card just wishing him the best. It's not like they were only married for 5 days! She was a huge part of his life--and will always be the mother of his kids. How will TK do as a step-mom? How will she deal with Karen? Oh well.

All in all, one of my most favorite MONK eppys.

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Liv
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Well, I am going to differ with Liz here...I really enjoyed the episode! I am a true romantic at heart, and I especially enjoyed Natalie telling T.K. about why she chose to marry Mitch and why she would do it over again...it's been a while since we've heard from her about that! I also always enjoy Monk's "Trudy" moments, and when he told Stottlemeyer that T.K. was "his answer," because that was something his Trudy used to say to him, I really liked that!


That's fine, everyone's got their own tastes and everyone is different. This is just not my kind of episode. I watch Monk because it's usually not like this. This episode was so over the top and full of it that it passed my threshold and kept going, it nearly put me into a diabetic coma. But that's just me.

I also have kind of a problem with the idea of someone else being the whole key to another person's happiness, or the reason for their being. It always has bugged me. Every person has a valid reason for living all by themselves. If they fall in love and are happy together, I'm happy for them, but I dislike this idea that everyone should be with someone or out looking for the other half of their being and that they are somehow incomplete until they find that person. That is an idea that seems to be gaining in popularity and is kind of insulting to people who are perfectly happy being single is all.

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Here are some of my other thoughts on the episode:

-I felt SO BAD for Monk during the bachelor party...he was trying so hard. That was a little tough to watch, although I must admit...I'm not the drinking/wild partying/stripper-loving type, either, so when I get married someday, I'm either going to have to forgo the bachelor party or go Monk's route...in all seriousness! lol, but I felt really bad for him, he was so happy and he was trying so hard to put on a nice party for his friend...it was a little hard to watch, but it was also kind of sweet, too. And Stottlemeyer was a good sport, good for him! smile.gif


I am SO with you here! That had to be the worst bachelor party, EVER! Poor Monk thought he was doing so well. And Stottlemeyer had to know when he asked him to be the best man that the party was going to be a Monk version of a real party, that's probably why he told him that his biggest responsibility was going to be keeping up with the ring, he knew that Monk could hold onto a wedding ring!I guess it was a good thing that Stottlemeyer has had two other chances tohave real bachelor parties. I like that he was a very good sport about it.

And Randy must have been well on his way to drinking all 12 of those beers by himself if he thought that was a good movie choice and didn't think there was anything weird about that car being on fire,or even recognize that it was Stottlemeyer's car!

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-Could it have been any more obvious from the beginning who "the guy" was? But that's okay...I thought the episode in general was very well done with all the surprise mishaps even though it was clear who was responsible...the exploding gift in the church especially caught me by surprise.


I don't think so. They would have to work really, really hard to make it more transparent, and if they did that, I would really have been tocked off that they put that much effort into making it clear who the guy was, but almost no effort into this episode where it would have counted.

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-Okay, so who caught the Albright reference? He was supposed to be Natalie's date for the wedding. Ugh...clearly they're mentioning him because, as we all know by now, he's returning for the finale. Ugh ugh ugh ugh...I do NOT want to see them get together, it's just so WRONG! I don't even care if Monk/Nat don't get together, Nat/Albright just seems so wrong, and feels so forced. I'm still hoping she'll ultimately reject him. And yes, before this comment starts World War III, I realize this scene at the end was not thrown in there to mislead us, but I LOVED seeing Monk and Natalie walk out of the ceremony arm in arm. smile.gif


I caught it!I'm not thrilled with the 'everyone gets a relationship as a prize' notion, either. But I'm more okay with Albright than Monk because at least with Albright, he's out at sea a lot so it is a very logical and believable reason why Natalie's relationship with him doesn't conflict with her basically 24/7 job with Monk. And if she only sees Albright when he's in town, and she probably would want to spend most of the time he's in port with him, that would mean that maybe monk is getting better, and he can let Natalie have a few days off all together here and there to see Albright. But really, if Natalie had to be with someone at the end of the series, my first choice would have been Ambrose. I just liked their interaction, brief as it was, in Goes Home Again. I don't like cliche romanticism, but I have to admit, I am a sucker for a shy, awkward, kind of nerdy romance. Everyone, I guess, has their weaknesses. My own husband was so shy that he knew me for three years before he ever said more than 'Hi' to me, and then he just talked to me about his pet hamster. It was another two and and a half years before he actually got the nerve to speak to me again and ask me out. I'm a sucker for a man who likes small animals and is so in awe of me he has a hard time speaking. wub.gif

I guess I'm a hard person to win over, but when the right one comes along, I know it. Nothing at all wrong with his brakes. Maybe that's why I have kind of a problem with the breakneck kind of feel I got from the Stottlemeyer/Jensen thing. I know they said six months last night, but it still feels very rushed to me, starting from the first episode. And anyone whose been married twice and nearly engaged to a murderer needs to seriously have those brakes looked at. Maybe, because TK wanted to 'tap the brakes', she'll balance him out enough that this time, it'll work out.
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