Too fast indeed.

Finally finished reading all the back posts. Will probably be late to work tomorrow as a result. Oh well.

A few people jokingly mentioned characters from other shows as suspects. So what if it was someone from another USA show? Can't be Shawn or Gus cause they were too young at the time of the murder, but maybe it was Shawn's dad. Or maybe it's that annoying White Collar guy who I have to look at every time I go to the next page of this thread, or hit refresh. Maybe it's Fiona from Burn Notice. She has a knack for explosives.

Just kidding, it won't be any of them.

Yeah, that would be like "The Man With Two Brains" where the elevator killer turned out to be Merv Griffin (who played himself).

Or maybe Lassiter??

Shawn and Gus solved the case! They claim it was the Mentalist!

Here's what happened. The setting is the fall of 2008. Trudy, now a superstar reporter is about to expose the Mentalist's plan to blatently steal the gimmick from another show. The Mentalist finds this out with his fake phsycic abilities. Also using his fake psycic abilities he finds the Quantum Leap guy, who happens to be in the same time period coincidentally. He convinces him that Trudy is evil and is going to be responsible for the death of millions, and the only way to stop her is to kill her. The only problem is, Quantum Leap guy is about to leap again. Wouldn't you know it, he leaps back to 1997. Thanks to The Mentalist's trickery, Quantum Leap guy arranges for Trudy's death.

But before he can, she is instead killed by an even more insidious and horrible type--Danny Tanner, who was actually hoping to off Alf, who'd been pestering him for weeks over whether there was any relation between him and the last Melmacian's Tanners--then again, maybe the killer is actually a rogue surviving Melmacian who thought somehow that Trudy was a cat horder...

Fonzie detonated the bomb by snapping his fingers.

Well, *I* would enjoy that ending... not sure about most people.

Sheldon Cooper found a way to make his time machine work, went back to San Francisco, 1997, and planned the whole thing out because he had plans for world domination by the age of 24, but Trudy kept digging and once her story ran, his plot would be ruined! There are two simple reasons he went back to the year 1997 to kill her.

First it meant he had the perfect alibi, in 1997, he was just an eleven year old prodigy, entering college.That's kind of a big deal, so there will be lots of reports about it in the local papers, at least, and college professors and students and so on could verify that he was there.

Second, it was before he met Leonard, Raj, Howard and Penny. He knew that if he waited until after he met them, they would Leonard would figure out what he planned to do and tell the others and they would stop him.

His next plan with the time machine was the go back to 1995, and get Wil Wheaton!

Dale did it.

Can't be Dale, he is already in prison. It would be an unsatisfying ending if the person who did it is already serving a life sentence for something else. Worst that could happen is they stick him with another life sentence on top of the one he is serving. Means nothing. It's gotta be someone not in jail. Monk needs justice. Finding out it is someone who is not really going to pay for the crime would not satisfy the craving for justice.

I agree Dale may make another appearence and provide one more clue, but he isn't the guy.

It was me. And I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.

And Scoobey Doobey DOOO! LOL!

Wait, it couldn't have been you! Where is your motive? And did you have an opportunity? If you can't provide those, I think you're wrong.

I wanted the gold under her desk. I had to get rid of her and then I dug under the desk for the gold. She didn't quite buy me covered in flour going 'woooo' to scare her off, so I got a bit desperate.

Dude, you totally should have called in Professor Hyde-White!

Or did you?

You know, I have watched entirely too much Scoobey Doo.

I still think Shaggy was a Grade A stoner.

You know what? They should have a Scoobey Doo-Mythbusters-Monk crossover, like the episodes of Scoobey Doo where they would have like Tim Conway, Sonny and Cher, Three Stooges or the Harlem Globe Trotters on the show. Stottlemeyer and Jamie could be like Jack Sparrow and Barbosa (sp?) in Pirates of the Caribbean III having a contest over whose got the most impressive, manly mustache and Adam could constantly be trying to convince someone that they need to use C4 to catch the bad guy in the act.

and Fred and Daphne would always be in the van 'doin' it" instead of finding clues. We all knew it was true.

Yep. In fact, I was never sure exactly what Fred and Daphne were even doing there anyway. It must have been because of the van, and the fact that Scoobey and Shaggy were always so high and looking for snacks that they didn't care what was going on in the van, and Velma was always so distracted by the mysteries and when she wasn't distracted, blind as a bat and couldn't see what was going on.

"Stop jumping up and down on the back seat and help me find my glasses!"

Hahaha...Image stuck in brain!

And, welcome to my world!!

It's fun and scary like a carnival ride. I think I wan't off!

Okay. Would you like a Dramamine?

Just knock me out.

*THUD!*

What? Everyone saw her give me permission.

Ohhhhhh....what happened? Who are all you people, and why are you looking at me like that? Who am I? And who are YOU?

You again???

Fist of all, DisherTheories and Liv. You two are funny! I was LOL!
Did anyone catch what was said in "The Best Man?" I'm talking about the group "Earth Avengers." They were blowing up buildings 12 years ago? Coinicdence? I think not.
Ok, here's my theory: Maybe Trudy discovered something the "EA" did or was going to do. Something worse than the buildings. Trudy was going to "blow the whistle." The "Judge", who was part of the group, found out and silenced her. He/she talked to Warrick Tennyson and Frank Nunn (the six-fingered guy) and anyone else who was involved.
Haven't figured who the Judge might be. Still think Dale Biederbeck knows more than he's letting on. It could be someone we've forgotten about. Not any of the regulars or semi-regulars I hope. We shall see. This is going to be torture. I've watched some video on USA site and it has been stated that Monk will not die at the end.
Any comments on my theory?

^ My thoughts exactly, dabzzy! I had a bunch of different theories about who killed Trudy, but when I compared most of them to my Monk timeline I created, they didn't make any sense. Last night's episode was definitely revealing something about Trudy's death that Monk hasn't figured out yet. That theory is pretty concise and sound, I can bank on it. I have not yet had any possible suspect for whom the Judge may be. However, it's obvious that we can rule out Stottlemeyer as a suspect. Only one aspect in the theory suspecting Captain Stottlemeyer of Trudy's murder makes any sense at all: the fact that Leland was at first very wary about allowing Adrian to continue to work alongside the force and now for the past several years Monk has been consistently allowed and ineveitably, expected to assist as his right-hand man in every case. It makes sense that if Leland did do it, he would be anxious about allowing Monk back on the team at first but then eventually realize that it would create major distraction from Monk's foremost desire if he was able to help solve cases. However, from all that I have seen it is very apparent that the Captain was cautious at first because Monk sank into a deep depression after Trudy's murder, and was incapable of fulfilling his duties as a police officer, let alone a unofficial detective for the Santa Barbara police department. I truly believe that Leland is a devoted and loving friend to Monk, and that he would never hurt him intentionally. It's also impossible for Leland to be the killer because he would never be able to live with himself if he was continually decieving and pretending to believe in Monk for all these years in order to cover up his own mistake. He's not the type of person to be irrevocably hardhearted. It goes completely against his character to do so.
Not to mention it would be extremely caustic for the writers to cause Monk to discover the man responsible for Trudy's death was none other than his best friend and dearest friend. It would kill him emotionally and spiritually, and it would leave everyone else on the force both horrified and heartbroken. And let me tell you, that's not the way to end the Monk series It's virtually impossible that the writers would even think such a plot plausible.

Wasn't there something in a previous episode about "the other bombing" I think is said Trudy's bombing wasn't related to the other bombing. Maybe the other bombing was by the Earth Avengers. Not sure if the timeline fits in with 12 years mentioned in the episode.

The other bombing and Trudy's bombing could not be linked. The other bombing was apparently drug cartel related....

I totally see where you're coming from, i cant remember which episode, but once someone was sleeping with stottlemeyers ex, and he totally decked him one! POW!

In that episode, the person wasn't actually sleeping with his ex-wife, he insinuated or outright said he was sleeping with her, but was lying specifically to make Stottlemeyer angry.

I probably would have punched him too, only I would hope I would be able to control myself till I was at least away from the crime scene to do it. Punching someone for insinuating or saying that he's sleeping with your wife in the heat of the moment isn't quite the same thing as taking weeks to plan to kill someone, though. Big difference between being hot headed and not thinking before you punch someone's smug face in, and premeditated murder.

There were also bombing radicals and a Trudy reporter link in the "Blackout" episode. I always wondered if there could be a Trudy murder connection there. I forget much about it, but I mention it in item #7 of this Trudy time line I made long ago:

http://www.antiquegamblingchips.com/TrudyMonkMurderCaseA.htm

On the day of the last episode it seems they are showing all of the prior episode with clues in it. It is listed on their viewing schedule as "Trudy Mythology" and it leads into The End Part Two. I'm going to watch all of these episodes on DVD to see if any new clues pop into my head, I suggest you all do the same if you have the DVDs. Here is the link:

http://www.usanetwork.com/schedules/sched....009&switch=

That's a strange thing to call it, 'Trudy Mythology'. Myths are generally accepted to me legends or stories that are basically untrue.

I mean, I know that Trudy is a fictional character, but it seems like an odd name choice for a marathon of shows leading up to the final episode in which her murder will finally be solved.

It's also kind of curious to me that Up all Night isn't included in the list of episodes they will be playing that day.

Maybe the bombings aren't exactly related but I do feel that there's a connection. I was saying somebody in the group (the Judge) arranged the Trudy car bomb. Maybe Warren Tennyson and Frank Nunn were also in the group. Hmm, I caught something before Monk did.

Not important, but Ragnarok, where did you find the link to that? I looked at the USA "Monk" home page and couldn't find it.

Yes, it would be nice if the powers that be defined what they meant by "mythology" in this instance. The USA people constantly annoy me, like with misleading promos. I suspect that that "mythology" list of repeats are just Trudy-heavy episodes, not the most important ones necessarily for clues to her murder mystery, just ratings fodder.

You could be right about that. I assumed they would have clues since the last episode is that day but it could also just be Trudy themed episodes as you said.

To answer your question, it is not on USA Monk homepage, but from USA Schedule which you can link to from up on top of this message board or the USA Homepage itself.

OK, I got it now, thanks. I had to figure it out for myself mostly. Whenever I go to that page, in that lower "schedule search" section, I would type "Monk" in that search box, and then select a month, and then click "search" and I get the "Monk" schedule for the whole month. .. ..... But that didn't work this time. It didn't give the names of the Trudy episodes. ... ..... So what I did was, in that upper "tonight on usa" section: (1) select the month of December 2009 from that calender , and (2) then click the number "4" in the December calender on that page, and that did it for me. Thanks again.

I always start with this page, which I bookmark (favorite):
http://www.usanetwork.com/schedules/sched....mp;x=42&y=4

Somehow, Frankie and Tennyson ...don't strike me as environmentalists...bombing ones or otherwise...who knows though....

Myths can also be..."a body of stories associated with a culture or institution or person."
I thought about mythology the same way you did ...so looked up some of its definitions....and found this one which seems to fit the purpose here...unless they are trying to say none of what they have told us is true or a clue....

Nope, they don't. Especially because Warrick Tennyson was paid to build that bomb, and when Adrian asked Frank Nunn why he did it, he said, "I don't know why! I never know why!" Environmentalists and other radical groups that might plant bombs do it for a cause, something that they feel is for a greater good, so they probably wouldn't expect payment for building a bomb, and they would damn sure know why the bomb was being planted. Tennyson and Nunn were just hired guns, not extremists. They didn't care what the reason was. But they could have been hired by someone who was, or used to be involved with such a group in order to silence a reporter that was posing a threat to them. This person probably couldn't go to any of their old contacts within the environmentalist or anti war or whatever group to ask them to build and/or plant a bomb because they wouldn't do it knowing that the intention was to kill someone to keep them quiet. Radical groups that plant bombs do it to get attention, and they probably wouldn't want to do it especially if the group disbanded because some people were unintentionally killed due to their actions.

But we still haven't seen anything that would lead us conclusively to believe that the person or person's responsible for Trudy's death had anything to do with any radical group. At this point, it's just one possible theory.

Agree. Some of this stuff that they have thrown at us has to be equal to red herrings...hard to decipher...pick and choose what is a clue and what is not anymore...so many roads that this could possibly take .....

I've been lurking for awhile but wanted to throw out a possibility...
For the last year or so I had my "and they lived happily ever after" ending - all the characters get their post-Monk lives, Monk solves the Trudy case, Monk finds true love, Monk gets his badge, and better emotionally. But a couple of recent scenes made me think of an alternative ending. It's probably wrong, but interesting (to me)...

At the end of Mr. Monk and the Dog, when he was with the killer in his apartment Monk said "I know" and it sounded very empathetic to me. My thought was, could Monk know what it's like to accidentally kill the woman he loved? Not that he's the guy, but maybe he did something, or didn't do something that contributed to Trudy's death - a major accident.
At the end of Mr. Monk goes Camping, we were reminded that Monk can be delusional, hallucinate, or whatever he does. He's done that before (Alice Cooper was the guy).

So could it be... After all of the loose ends are tied, Monk solves the Trudy case, but then realizes his contribution to Trudy's death and has a major breakdown. The final scene... The main characters (except Monk) is told by a doctor something like, "It looks like this is permanent, he will always be like this". Then it shows Monk and what "like this" is like... He has a big smile on his face. Then we see what Monk sees... He's with Trudy, happy and they will always be together - never alone again. And that would be the perfect time for him to open his gift, with Trudy around to share it with him.

I really hope it wasn't Leland. It would be a tragic ending for both characters that I love. The captain is great, it would be another annoying depressing, "going for the emmy screw the fans", kind of ending if that were the case.

See my other post "happy ending ...please". I sincerely hope it ends happily, and not like most shows nowadays, on depressing notes.

I'm not really sure that I could be happy with that ending.

As for Monk's empathy at the end of Dog, I think it's been established that Monk suffers from survivor's guilt, he feels guilty about Trudy's death regardless of the fact that he had nothing to actually do with it, like at the end of Actor when he seemed to feel that if he had just gone with Trudy that morning, he could have somehow saved her, even though there was no way that David Ruskin could have known if Trudy asked Adrian to go with her, and Ruskin's story actually goes against what we've heard about that morning from people who were actually there.

Same

Not to get too Wizard-of-Oz-ish, but I get the feeling that whatever the solution is, it's been locked inside of Monk's head the whole time.

But no, he didn't kill Trudy.

You know it's possible that the person did indeed do this, but I'm also another person who Googled "Who killed monk's wife", and I have seen monk off and on throughout the seasons without consistancy. I only googled it because of the continuous ads that USA keeps putting out and showing up. I watch Law And Order and Scrubs, and you see the commercials all the time.

I like the actor, Adrian Peterson, who plays monk. The movie he was in with Denzel Washington was great! That's why I saw the few episodes that I did.

I agree with the guy who said they wouldn't make it someone that was in the inner circle. The show would lose too many people who will buy ever season on DVD. Again, I'm not an avid Monk watching fan, but I do love comedies (Scrubs is hilarious), and I can't wait to find out who the killer was!

By the way, don't get upset with some guy who wrote in here about the possibilities of it being the captain. It almost seems like the most obvious choice for a killer. Of course whenever I watch shows and movies, it's never the most obvious person and for some reason it seems to me that the captain would be the most obvious person. But I just saw a commercial showing how the captain is nervous (a happy kind of nervous) reinstating monk into the force, so it's probably not the captain.

I agree that it's not the captain, and it wouldn't have bothered me so much if the guy was just suggesting the captain as a possibility, but he kept insisting that he had some inside information, and seemed to just generally trying to be a troll.

I haven't seen all of the movie with Denzel Washington in it that you mentioned, but I have seen parts of it and it looked interesting. It was just always on when I was too busy with something else to see the whole thing. But the actor's name is Tony Shalhoub. I probably should just get that movie on DVD so I can watch it when I have time.

The Siege is a pretty good movie. It's not the greatest, but it's pretty watchable. Of course, Tony was fantastic in it.

I've said before that it couldn't be one of Monk's inner circle as the Trudy-killer because it would devalue the syndication rights. I can add here that it couldn't be Monk, and Monk couldn't be killed or catatonic (really crazy) at the end of the series, because then there couldn't be a "Monk" movie whenever the powers that be need some sure money.