Skunkdog
Aug 6 2009, 12:46 PM
Ive been a fan of this show before it even started. When I first saw the previews for it, I thought that this show would be nothing short of amazing. After watching the first episode, I was right. After watching the first season, I truely thought that this was one of, if not the greatest shows on televsion. It was funny, the characters were likeable, the premise was good and fresh and scarey sherry to this day is still the best episode of the show and one of the best episodes for any show ever made. I dont think I could pick out any flaws with season 1. I was finally truely satisfied with a show on TV and I anxiously waited for the show to return.
I was disappointed.
Dont get me wrong, I still watched the whole season and I enjoyed it, just not as much as season 1. It just didnt have the same charm or feel to what season 1 had and brought. I found most of the episodes to just be average TV or sub-par compared to season 1. While it was still enjoyable, it just was nowhere near as good as season 1 and I hoped for a major improvement in season 3.
Again, I was disappointed.
Theres not much to say here as I would be repeating myself for what I thought of season 2. While this season was indeed better than season 2, it still was nowhere near as good as season 1 was, but at the same time fealt like season 2: some good episodes here, a few bad episodes there. Ill admit, season 1 was not absolutely perfect, there were a couple of episodes that were OK at best, but compared to the newer episodes, they are alot better. In fact, just disregard my statement of finding no flaws with season 1. So here I am, waiting seemingly forever for season 4 to start, hoping that it returns to its former glory to rival season 1s greatness.
Ive read the synopses for the first 9 episodes of season 4, and they dont sound the least bit interesting.
Canadian art theft? werewolves? attempted murder?
Seriously, all I can say is, what the flying ****? Whoever wrote season 1 either needs his job back, or if hes been slacking to pick it up again. Out of the first 9 episodes, only 2 sound reasonably good "high noon-ish" and "the devils in the details and the upstairs bedroom" Psych has manged to go from truely great, to just "murder of the week" run of the mill TV show. Its not funny anymore, the love triangle between shaun, his highschool crush and jules is lame, and no one really doubts shaun being psychic anymore, again, something that was great about season 1. The charm is gone, and its sad to see it leave so early in this shows guarenteed long life. Ill still watch the show, but I hate knowing that it will probably never get better.
chelsea15jk
Aug 6 2009, 02:04 PM
Thank you for sharing, have a nice day.
Skunkdog
Aug 6 2009, 02:08 PM
Thats it?
No die-hard fans wanting to debate this?
chelsea15jk
Aug 6 2009, 02:13 PM
*shrug* Not really. I disagree, but you are allowed to have your opinion. I still think it's an awesome show, so whatever.
MarthanotGeorge
Aug 6 2009, 02:30 PM
QUOTE (Skunkdog @ Aug 6 2009, 02:08 PM)

Thats it?
No die-hard fans wanting to debate this?
What did you expect? I mean you are kind of being an Eyeore about it. You seem to be complaining that the show has changed since it began. Well, yeah. It's not a cartoon. You don't like Shawn's love life. OK. Many fans have mixed feelings about his relationships. I'm not sure what you think is missing that needs to be recaptured. Maybe you'd be happier watching the Mentalist. The lead character is a bit of a bummer. He does have fabulous hair, though.
Why don't you see how you like the first S4 episodes? Try to watch them without such a critical eye. They will make you giggle.
Have you thought that it's not the show, it's you? Maybe you're just a crank looking for something to crank about.
Is this Ken Tucker? This is, isn't it? Oh. Ken, you scoundrel.
Skunkdog
Aug 6 2009, 02:33 PM
I have tried to watch the mentalist, and it just a rip-off of psych only more serious.
And the whole love life is pointless, jules finally admits that she likes him back and they throw the whole thing out the window seconds later because he decides to date someone else. And whos Ken Tucker? And no, I dont think its me if the quality of the show has gone down.
MarthanotGeorge
Aug 6 2009, 02:51 PM
QUOTE (Skunkdog @ Aug 6 2009, 02:33 PM)

I have tried to watch the mentalist, and it just a rip-off of psych only more serious.
And the whole love life is pointless, jules finally admits that she likes him back and they throw the whole thing out the window seconds later because he decides to date someone else. And whos Ken Tucker? And no, I dont think its me if the quality of the show has gone down.
Look up on the Google or on the recent thread regarding Entertainment Weekly to find out who Ken Tucker is.
My point is that the season hasn't started yet. Why complain about the coming season until you actually see some of it? Especially on the day before the premiere. It's seems like you're doing it to be kind of troll-y.
Skunkdog
Aug 6 2009, 03:10 PM
Clearly im a troll when I distinctly said that im a fan in the first sentence of this entire topic.
MarthanotGeorge
Aug 6 2009, 03:19 PM
QUOTE (Skunkdog @ Aug 6 2009, 03:10 PM)

Clearly im a troll when I distinctly said that im a fan in the first sentence of this entire topic.
I said kind of troll-y. A lesser form of troll. Your timing for a serious discussion of the failings of Season 3 is poor. You should have made your points back in February or March. But the
day before the new season premiere? Really? You have to admit, it's suspect.
Come on. Stop falling into the black hole of your own pessimism. In the immortal words of Bobby McFerrin, "Don't worry, be happy."
mmp2011
Aug 6 2009, 05:16 PM
can we all just stop fighting be friends and share a pineapple??
we are all aloud to have our own opinions...some people like it...some people dont its just how life works...
(ps...hey i know we all agree on 1 thing tho.........pineapples are delicious

)
Persiandaddy
Aug 6 2009, 06:26 PM
I really don't see where you're coming from with the negativity. The only problem I have ever had with the show was that new episodes aren't aired weekly year round.
Seriously though, the only criticism I have for Psych is the serious tone that ended season three. After the episodes finished airing, I was left fearing that the show would become more serious in terms of shules/shmabigail. But after going back and rewatching season three (after purchasing season 3 on dvd!) I realized that yes tuesday the 17th was a dark and more serious episode, but it was spoofing friday the 13th...so it kind of had to be. Also, the finale just ventured farther into the dark and creepy theme, but after seeing the episode again I remembered how much the episode had me laughing. The only thing about season four that I can predict I won't be much of a fan of is shmabigail. I don't want to see too much drama in the show. I agree it will make it interesting, but I hope it only lasts a few episodes and then shawn and juliet can get back to wishing they could be together even though they cant (until the series finale that is).
So in essence, I disagree with you that the show has gone down in quality. There has not been an episode yet that I haven't found hilarious. I hope you can get around your pessimistic views and just enjoy the show for what it is, not what it should be to meet your standards...or as previously advised, watch the mentalist.
USAophile
Aug 6 2009, 06:31 PM
okay everybody let's stop fighting. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but it's the day before the premiere and we have better things to discuss. If you think the show is now horrible, then stop watching it. Don't come and look for a fight on the message board. Although, i suggest you give it another chance. I love the show and don't think you should enter the new season already hating it. Wait till you see the episodes
Currahee428
Aug 6 2009, 06:52 PM
Personally, I haven't had a problem with the other seasons. I actually thought season 2 was the best, but that's just me. Every season has its good and bad episodes, but I think they all turned out well. I think what people might have a problem with is, as with any series spanning multiple seasons, the stories begin to involve more character development and less plot. The key is to balance these two things and make a great series. You obviously do not agree with me that this is what has been done here and that's fine. I only hope season four satisfies your Psych craving.
PsychNickNack
Aug 6 2009, 07:52 PM
QUOTE (Skunkdog @ Aug 6 2009, 02:10 PM)

Clearly im a troll when I distinctly said that im a fan in the first sentence of this entire topic.
Well, A: If you were a fan, you would like the show no matter what - (Unless of course it just sucked really bad, which will never happen.) B: You claim "not troll" but when you said "Come on, no die-hard Psych fans wanting to debate this?" it really sounds like you're picking a fight. In summation, I disagree with you, I like the first season, and Scary Sherry is one of my faves, but the show did not really find itself until season two, wshere theyh did their "One Hour version of their favorite movies" like the Dinosaur one and season three had "The Greatest Adventure..." which is like "The Goonies" and the ones like the writers favorite movies are great episodes and they are some of my favorite, further more there is no one specific writer for a season, there are different writers, I mean come on, could you imagine having to write 16 episode for a show back to back, keeping them clever and original? That would be very hard.
Enjoy disliking Psych, Skunkdog.
MarBear28
Aug 7 2009, 12:53 AM
QUOTE (Skunkdog @ Aug 6 2009, 03:08 PM)

Thats it?
No die-hard fans wanting to debate this?
Obviously you are just looking to stir the pot while everyone is in the height of being a Psych-O. I admit the show has a different feel now than in season 1, but every single TV show has a different feel in later season than in the 1st season, all TV shows evolve and change. I like it as much now as I did then, but that's just me.
pretty_uglygirl
Aug 7 2009, 03:59 AM
QUOTE (Skunkdog @ Aug 6 2009, 12:46 PM)

Ive been a fan of this show before it even started. When I first saw the previews for it, I thought that this show would be nothing short of amazing. After watching the first episode, I was right. After watching the first season, I truely thought that this was one of, if not the greatest shows on televsion. It was funny, the characters were likeable, the premise was good and fresh and scarey sherry to this day is still the best episode of the show and one of the best episodes for any show ever made. I dont think I could pick out any flaws with season 1. I was finally truely satisfied with a show on TV and I anxiously waited for the show to return.
I was disappointed.
Dont get me wrong, I still watched the whole season and I enjoyed it, just not as much as season 1. It just didnt have the same charm or feel to what season 1 had and brought. I found most of the episodes to just be average TV or sub-par compared to season 1. While it was still enjoyable, it just was nowhere near as good as season 1 and I hoped for a major improvement in season 3.
Again, I was disappointed.
Theres not much to say here as I would be repeating myself for what I thought of season 2. While this season was indeed better than season 2, it still was nowhere near as good as season 1 was, but at the same time fealt like season 2: some good episodes here, a few bad episodes there. Ill admit, season 1 was not absolutely perfect, there were a couple of episodes that were OK at best, but compared to the newer episodes, they are alot better. In fact, just disregard my statement of finding no flaws with season 1. So here I am, waiting seemingly forever for season 4 to start, hoping that it returns to its former glory to rival season 1s greatness.
Ive read the synopses for the first 9 episodes of season 4, and they dont sound the least bit interesting.
Canadian art theft? werewolves? attempted murder?
Seriously, all I can say is, what the flying ****? Whoever wrote season 1 either needs his job back, or if hes been slacking to pick it up again. Out of the first 9 episodes, only 2 sound reasonably good "high noon-ish" and "the devils in the details and the upstairs bedroom" Psych has manged to go from truely great, to just "murder of the week" run of the mill TV show. Its not funny anymore, the love triangle between shaun, his highschool crush and jules is lame, and no one really doubts shaun being psychic anymore, again, something that was great about season 1. The charm is gone, and its sad to see it leave so early in this shows guarenteed long life. Ill still watch the show, but I hate knowing that it will probably never get better.
Aww, sorry that you have been disappointed Skunkdog. I have to say though that I was very suprised by your review. You thought it went downhill after the first season? Hmmm. I thought the first season was very much like the second season. I mean, I always think that 65 million years off and Psy vs Psy
were season one. How exactly were these episodes less charming or sub-par compared to the previous episodes?
The only differences I can see between the overall seasons of one and two is that in season one Shawn wears cooler clothes and is skinnier in season one. I do see a difference in season three compared to the previous two seasons - but I thought that was for the better. To be honest, I was getting a little bored during season one and two... I thought it was a bit too formulaic and funny in parts. Season three episodes showed us more about the characters and their lives, every episode was funnier and funnier and they even developed the characters relationships. Personally, that is exactly what I want to see in a show so I loved it.
As far as your comments on the projected season 4 - I am sorry, I just can't see where you're coming from at all. What is wrong with an episode about an art thief or attempted murder? I don't get it? Also, how is the premise of "high-noonish" better? As far as the 'love triangle' goes, it barely takes up very much screen time at all so far.. its more a subtle element than anything. Um, also love triangles happen all the time so how is it lame? Finally, who doubted Shawn's psychic abilities in season one that didn't in season 2 and 3? It's always been Lassiter who doubts him (always has, still does) and he's always easily manipulated the randoms along the way.
Well, that is what I think. I hope this is the sort of response you wanted? But sorry you don't like the show.. maybe watch it from beginning to end again and you'll find it much more enjoyable.
lassiterlover69
Aug 7 2009, 04:09 AM
wel i don't think anything has changed , honetly it has evolved they most television should and need to they can't all be the same !,they need to change because they will get boriing personally i like the new changes, i like how Shawn relationship with the police the dept. is getting stronger and closer every year
Skunkdog
Aug 7 2009, 09:13 AM
QUOTE (PsychNickNack @ Aug 6 2009, 08:52 PM)

Well, A: If you were a fan, you would like the show no matter what - (Unless of course it just sucked really bad, which will never happen.) B: You claim "not troll" but when you said "Come on, no die-hard Psych fans wanting to debate this?" it really sounds like you're picking a fight. In summation, I disagree with you, I like the first season, and Scary Sherry is one of my faves, but the show did not really find itself until season two, wshere theyh did their "One Hour version of their favorite movies" like the Dinosaur one and season three had "The Greatest Adventure..." which is like "The Goonies" and the ones like the writers favorite movies are great episodes and they are some of my favorite, further more there is no one specific writer for a season, there are different writers, I mean come on, could you imagine having to write 16 episode for a show back to back, keeping them clever and original? That would be very hard.
Enjoy disliking Psych, Skunkdog.
Are you saying that to be a true fan of Psych, that I have to like every last episode and think that its amazing? No, thats not how a fan is defined. I can very well still be a fan and admit that there are some episodes that I did not care for.
QUOTE (MarBear28 @ Aug 7 2009, 01:53 AM)

Obviously you are just looking to stir the pot while everyone is in the height of being a Psych-O. I admit the show has a different feel now than in season 1, but every single TV show has a different feel in later season than in the 1st season, all TV shows evolve and change. I like it as much now as I did then, but that's just me.
No, Im not looking to "stir the pot" as you call it. I was looking for a serious discussion on what other people thought of the shows past 3 seasons and their comments on what I thought. Unfortunately, as I feared, everyone here is a "superfan" as I like to call it: someone who finds absolutely no flaws with the show and will never admit that its not as great as they make it out to be (in this case, some of the episodes.) Its hard to have a friendly debate without everyone basically saying: "nope, your wrong, were right, you suck, bye".
QUOTE (pretty_uglygirl @ Aug 7 2009, 04:59 AM)

Aww, sorry that you have been disappointed Skunkdog. I have to say though that I was very suprised by your review. You thought it went downhill after the first season? Hmmm. I thought the first season was very much like the second season. I mean, I always think that 65 million years off and Psy vs Psy were season one. How exactly were these episodes less charming or sub-par compared to the previous episodes?
The only differences I can see between the overall seasons of one and two is that in season one Shawn wears cooler clothes and is skinnier in season one. I do see a difference in season three compared to the previous two seasons - but I thought that was for the better. To be honest, I was getting a little bored during season one and two... I thought it was a bit too formulaic and funny in parts. Season three episodes showed us more about the characters and their lives, every episode was funnier and funnier and they even developed the characters relationships. Personally, that is exactly what I want to see in a show so I loved it.
As far as your comments on the projected season 4 - I am sorry, I just can't see where you're coming from at all. What is wrong with an episode about an art thief or attempted murder? I don't get it? Also, how is the premise of "high-noonish" better? As far as the 'love triangle' goes, it barely takes up very much screen time at all so far.. its more a subtle element than anything. Um, also love triangles happen all the time so how is it lame? Finally, who doubted Shawn's psychic abilities in season one that didn't in season 2 and 3? It's always been Lassiter who doubts him (always has, still does) and he's always easily manipulated the randoms along the way.
Well, that is what I think. I hope this is the sort of response you wanted? But sorry you don't like the show.. maybe watch it from beginning to end again and you'll find it much more enjoyable.
The fact that its art theft in a different place. For just about anything murder mystery related (most common in books) anytime the character(s) go to a different place outside of the norm for them, it ends up being lame. Also art theft doesnt sound very interesting, granted theres still a 90% chance of a murder happening, the fact that its over something as petty as art is what makes it seem to be not that great. Attempted murder doesnt sound very good based on the fact that it could have simply been murder. Which is more interesting: looking for someone who tried to kill someone, or looking for someone whos already killed? High noon-ish sounds good to me because someone is going around killing off people on a movie set thats supposed to be taking place in the old american west (which i have a soft-spot for). The romance in general for anything gets annoying after awhile. First we think its cute but after a while we get tired of seeing it and asking outselves "whos shawn going to go for?" Its just going to be him switching on/off with his new girlfriend and jules until God knows what happens and it will possibly ruin the show. I guess what im trying to say is, some romance is fine, but too much can be deadly. I was fine with shawn and jules, but now that theyve added a new love interest that shawn is dating now, I cant help but fear the worst.The person who doubts his abilities is probably just solely lassiter now, but lately hes gone from being "no, hes no psychic" to being partially skeptical about it, but at the same time hes more open to the idea that maybe shawn is and doesnt doubt him as much now. I always liked the banter between the 2 and while its still present, it just doesnt feel the same when lassiter truely doubted that shawn was psychic.
MarthanotGeorge
Aug 7 2009, 10:03 AM
OK
Skunkdog here you go.
QUOTE
Art theft in a different place doesn't sound very interesting . The romance gets annoying after awhile. Lassiter doesn't doubt him as much now.
[Paraphrasing]
It seems like you are looking for reasons to dislike Season 4 before it actually begins. Your criticism is certainly welcome. A bit of back and forth about episodes is always fun, but not BEFORE they've aired. It seems ridiculous to slam something based on a few spoilers and your own preconceptions.
Watch, then Bitch. I think that should be your mantra.
Iamthedrummer24
Aug 7 2009, 10:27 AM
PENIS!
MarthanotGeorge
Aug 7 2009, 10:32 AM
QUOTE (Iamthedrummer24 @ Aug 7 2009, 10:27 AM)

PENIS!
Well now that's a little harsh. It's important that every voice is heard on the forum. My point is that is seems a little early to be down on Season 4.
Iamthedrummer24
Aug 7 2009, 10:52 AM
Haha I was just trying to break the tension...Psych has never let me down!
Skunkdog
Aug 16 2009, 09:19 AM
Well were 2 episodes in now, and I was right, they werent that great.
Extradition British Columbia
There were no murders, so that was disappointing, and Shawn basically summed up the whole episode at the end when he said that it was lame how the art theft didnt actually steal anything.
He Dead
Multimilionaire dies and leaves a dysfunctional family behind and as it turns out, everyone hates each other and are having affairs with someone else and kill each other over money. Yeah, real original there.
MarthanotGeorge
Aug 16 2009, 09:42 AM
QUOTE (Skunkdog @ Aug 16 2009, 09:19 AM)

Well were 2 episodes in now, and I was right, they werent that great.
Extradition British Columbia
There were no murders, so that was disappointing, and Shawn basically summed up the whole episode at the end when he said that it was lame how the art theft didnt actually steal anything.
He Dead
Multimilionaire dies and leaves a dysfunctional family behind and as it turns out, everyone hates each other and are having affairs with someone else and kill each other over money. Yeah, real original there.
So you didn't laugh at any of the jokes? Psych isn't a show that's mystery strong. They admit that it almost entirely revolves around referencing other shows, movies, products, etc.
I thought it was surprising that in "Extradition: British Columbia" he wasn't a thief at all. But a charlatan. Kind of like Shawn, no? Maybe Shawn will see his life as lame (always having to pretend, etc.) if he compares. What did he say to Despereaux, "I thought you were so cool..."
And in "He Dead", Shawn learns the lesson that all families have dysfunction. Not real original, but a truth, nonetheless.
I'm sorry that it's been disappointing to you, but I think Psych may not be the show for you or this may not be the forum for you. I think everyone on the board appreciates the give and take that the forum allows, but your criticism isn't all that insightful. And you're not going to change very many folks views about the show without something better crafted. You'll find almost exclusively superfans on this forum. You should try the boards at television without pity. They discuss the show with a little less sunshine then you will find here.

And no emoticons.
Good luck!
Skunkdog
Aug 16 2009, 10:05 AM
QUOTE (MarthanotGeorge @ Aug 16 2009, 09:42 AM)

So you didn't laugh at any of the jokes?
"the door!"
"having a larger bear eat a bear?"
" im a simple man"
"mr spencer, the limo is here to take you to the estate"
"i dont look depressed because of all the botox"
*runs away from barking dogs*
no, i cant say that i found any of those to be the slightest bit of being funny, not as funny as this from season 1
Gus: I just got a lap dance from Patrick Swayze!
Shawn: What, you mean like an impersonator?
Gus: No, I think it was actually Patrick Swayze!
^ that is hilarious, the other ones i listed didnt even make me chuckle
and about the running away from a house screaming, if theyre going to do that joke again (scarey sherry did it first), they could atleast try to make it like the original that had me rolling on the floor laughing
MarthanotGeorge
Aug 16 2009, 10:39 AM
QUOTE (Skunkdog @ Aug 16 2009, 10:05 AM)

and about the running away from a house screaming, if theyre going to do that joke again (scarey sherry did it first), they could atleast try to make it like the original that had me rolling on the floor laughing
But they were running away from the house with their dinners in doggie bags. It's Shawn and Gus running away again, but different. They do the same jokes, over and over, but they change them just a little to make them fresh, but familiar. I'm not sure you understand how comedy works.
KellyQ
Aug 16 2009, 10:54 AM
Hey, skunkdog.
I don't think that, as a fan, you are required to like every episode. I haven't really enjoyed most episodes of Monk for about 3 seasons now, maybe even more than that, but whenever I post my complaints on the Monk boards I get responses from people who don't understand how I could possibly ever dislike even one episode of that show. I tell them that it is my love for the show that compels me to criticize it, because I believe it is falling short of its potential and not living up to its original greatness.
So I know where you're coming from and I'm trying really hard to empathize and understand what you're saying.
That being said, I'm confused by your position. Season 1 was great, yes, but season 2 was, in my opinion, the pinnacle of all things Psych. I don't think we'll ever see a better season than Season 2. It has so many hilarious episodes. Have you ever seen Shawn (and Gus) of the Dead? That one's my absolute, all-time favorite. The humor never stops. I think Season 2 is the perfect blend of irreverent slapstick humor and intriguing plots/character developments.
I'll admit that the first half of Season 3 was a bit weaker--though I still find something to laugh about in every episode--but I thought it picked up again in the second half (how did you not enjoy Six Feet Under the Sea? I cried laughing so hard!) And I really enjoyed the more dramatic tone that ended the season. Those last two episodes will always be some of my favorites. I don't want every episode to be that dark, but I thought it was a nice change because I think every joke gets even funnier when it pops up, unexpected, out of a serious context. As for the changing dynamic between Shawn and Juliet, I think it was both heartbreaking and perfectly appropriate. They can't get together quite yet; the show would lose something. Abigail provides a good excuse for their separation while allowing Shawn to still mature. If this TV show is going to survive, the characters HAVE to change. They have to evolve. It can't be just like Season 1 forever.
I, for one, am really enjoying watching the characters (and the show) grow and learn. I think the writers absolutely have the right perspective. After watching a lot of interviews with the executive producers (what can I say; I'm obsessed!) I think they are doing their very best to preserve, as best they can, everything that we love about this show--the tension between Shawn and Juliet, Shawn's general immaturity, his relationship with Gus, etc. At the same time, they're also trying to shake things up between the characters, just to keep things interesting for us as viewers. Characters absolutely cannot stay stagnant for so long. It's not realistic. People change! The producers have the right idea, and I'm in full support of this show and everything it does.
By the way, next week looks hilarious. So stop being a critic just for a little while. Stop and watch and laugh. Psych was never meant to be analyzed like this.
(And can you honestly say that you didn't find the laser scene in Extradition: British Columbia funny?)
aprun
Aug 16 2009, 11:05 AM
I for one have noticed great signifigant changes between all three seasons. The first one had its newcomers charm, and were thought out detective stories. But, as a show, they evolved. The second season portrayed the characteres in a more comical mood. Shawn and Gus were really silly, and showed a LOT of childish behavior that served as the humor of the show. Also notable was the way the way the cameras started to angle shots. In the first season, they got more of the set, and let darker light in to create a darker, more realistic atmosphere. Second season's lighting was brighter to emphasize the humor aspect of the show (meaning that they were sending subliminal messages in the show that this was NOT a serious show). The third season, they attempted to go back to serious, which was really just a lot of humor shots, and then one or two scenes of pure drama (also the camera tended to make the drama scenes sharper or something, I don't know, but it seemed crisper to me). Honestly, I really liked the first season because of how the cameras shot the scenes, a slight chance at solving the murder yourself, and the way the characters were still in touch with reality. But then again, shows evolve and change, or else they grow stale. I can only hope that the fourth season will have a balance of comedy and detective work, and lead the way to a fifth season, then sixth, and etcetera.
If anyone actually reads these blogs, then can I at least ask that you not shove all the comedy into one scene, and drama into another? Make it more flowing, and we will watch. (Good examples will be A night with Mr. Yang because Gus was just AWESOME)
Amberoo
Aug 16 2009, 12:15 PM
Well aren't you just a Debbie Downer? 
Let me just start by saying that I actually agree with you on some points, although I'm not nearly as enthusiastic about the things I dislike as you are. In my opinion, the first two seasons of Psych were golden, and simply untouchable. However, the first half of season three was a slight dissapointment to me. I appreciated the serious undertones the producers were trying to add to the characters, but in the process the show lost a lot of its light-hearted, humourous side, which was one of the main reasons why I loved watching the show in the first place. But, in the second half of the season, it seemed like the show bounced back admirably to probably the closest to season 1 and 2 perfection we'll ever see.
Now, onto the new season. I find it astonishing that you found the season premiere at all dissapointing. To me, it had all the old flare and humor of season 1 and 2. I was laughing from the opening scene right on through the psych-out. The characters were spot on, and delivered some of the funniest lines I've ever heard.
The whole skiing scene alone had me in tears:
[SHAWN] There's only one move we can't follow!
[GUS] What's that?
[SHAWN] -beat- He just made it!
[GUS] The slow and gentle turn?!
[SHAWN] That's it!
[GUS] Pizza! Pizza!
I mean, if you didn't find any of that episode remotely funny, then I'm not entirely certain you're watching the right series for you.
However, I will agree that "He Dead" fell kind of flat for me. The humor missed its mark, in my opinion. Although, I still enjoyed the episode, I felt it was a slight let down in comparison to the season's opener.
Shmooel_Cohen
Aug 16 2009, 12:42 PM
I haven't read all the posts, but season 1 was great but it got a bit repetitive. They need to change it up and show development. Like someone said before, it's not a cartoon. Don't be closed minded also, because Psych's humor is clearly up your alley. Just because you don't like one of the seasons, don't just be pessimistic towards anything Psych-related because it's fun. Also, watch the first episodes of season 4. In my opinion, the premiere is a top 5 of the series. A recent topic posted had similar complaints, but then said that season 4 was amazing, so give it a shot.
Shmooel_Cohen
Aug 16 2009, 12:45 PM
Now that I read Skunk's recent posts, I can say that you're just too stuck on season 1. And also, don't name the lesser funny jokes when making a point. Stop being so pessimistic so that you mentally turn off anything Psych related. If episodes like season 1 with 10x more tension and extremely similar psychic antics showed each week, you'd be one of the few that absolutely loved it. So grow up, or learn to adjust.
JamesRodayluvr64
Aug 16 2009, 01:06 PM
QUOTE (PsychNickNack @ Aug 6 2009, 08:52 PM)

Well, A: If you were a fan, you would like the show no matter what - (Unless of course it just sucked really bad, which will never happen.) B: You claim "not troll" but when you said "Come on, no die-hard Psych fans wanting to debate this?" it really sounds like you're picking a fight. In summation, I disagree with you, I like the first season, and Scary Sherry is one of my faves, but the show did not really find itself until season two, wshere theyh did their "One Hour version of their favorite movies" like the Dinosaur one and season three had "The Greatest Adventure..." which is like "The Goonies" and the ones like the writers favorite movies are great episodes and they are some of my favorite, further more there is no one specific writer for a season, there are different writers, I mean come on, could you imagine having to write 16 episode for a show back to back, keeping them clever and original? That would be very hard.
Enjoy disliking Psych, Skunkdog.
Ok I the whole if you were a fan you like the show no matter what is just stupid i mean im not trying to start a fight but just cause i mean i guess they dont like the other seasons so yeah there not a big fan but i must say i LOVE psych but season 4 so far is disspointing me and i'm not like not a fan for saying that im just saying some moments in the second episode were just like idk the show was kinda just disapointing.
uhhPINEAPPLES
Aug 16 2009, 02:10 PM
I kind of get what you are saying about the whole romance thing, but I don't think it's killing the show.
Shawn and Juliet are going to be together, but they want to put some obstacles in there to make it more interesting and not so easy to happen. Obviously, Shawn is getting older, but in the 3rd season he still flirted with girls just as much as he did in the first season.
I honestly don't see much of a difference in his character. The cops don't doubt him as much because he has solved so many cases for them. Lassiter still gets annoyed when Shawn has his psychic visions and spazzes out. I think it would get old if the show was like Season 1 all the time and there was no character development. I think it's interesting to see where everyone's coming from.
I think episodes in season 3 are just as funny and crazy as season 1 like Any Given Friday, Talk Derby to Me, Lassie did a bad, bad thing.
You are entitled to your own opinion, I just don't understand why you think the show is bad now, I guess. It's still hilarious, Shawn and Gus are still best friends, they still work for the SBPD, and Lassiter thinks they are ridiculous. What's different?
dreathirium
Aug 16 2009, 02:37 PM
QUOTE (Iamthedrummer24 @ Aug 7 2009, 11:27 AM)

PENIS!
best post ever!

*applauds*
bigkitty75
Aug 16 2009, 02:59 PM
Every one breathe please. I LOVE psych, but maybe I didn't love the first episode this season, so what? Maybe someone else didn't love the 2nd, who cares? We won't ever convince you so can we agree to disagree?
Persiandaddy
Aug 16 2009, 03:52 PM
QUOTE (JamesRodayluvr64 @ Aug 16 2009, 02:06 PM)

Ok I the whole if you were a fan you like the show no matter what is just stupid i mean im not trying to start a fight but just cause i mean i guess they dont like the other seasons so yeah there not a big fan but i must say i LOVE psych but season 4 so far is disspointing me and i'm not like not a fan for saying that im just saying some moments in the second episode were just like idk the show was kinda just disapointing.
Wait...what did you just say?
@skunk, what do you want us to say? Do you want us to argue with you? Do you want us to try to convince you that the show is good? Are you looking for more people who dislike Psych's later seasons? Or are you trying to get us to agree with you that the show has gone down in quality? Or maybe something else that just isn't occuring to me. *cough trolling*
Either way, I don't see how this post is constructive or contributional to the board at all.
If you don't like the show, fine. Almost all of the posters here do.
mariam_1
Aug 16 2009, 04:11 PM
QUOTE (uhhPINEAPPLES @ Aug 16 2009, 02:10 PM)

I kind of get what you are saying about the whole romance thing, but I don't think it's killing the show.
Shawn and Juliet are going to be together, but they want to put some obstacles in there to make it more interesting and not so easy to happen. Obviously, Shawn is getting older, but in the 3rd season he still flirted with girls just as much as he did in the first season.
I honestly don't see much of a difference in his character. The cops don't doubt him as much because he has solved so many cases for them. Lassiter still gets annoyed when Shawn has his psychic visions and spazzes out. I think it would get old if the show was like Season 1 all the time and there was no character development. I think it's interesting to see where everyone's coming from.
I think episodes in season 3 are just as funny and crazy as season 1 like Any Given Friday, Talk Derby to Me, Lassie did a bad, bad thing.
You are entitled to your own opinion, I just don't understand why you think the show is bad now, I guess. It's still hilarious, Shawn and Gus are still best friends, they still work for the SBPD, and Lassiter thinks they are ridiculous. What's different?
I couldn't have said it better myself!
aprun
Aug 16 2009, 09:02 PM
Okay now you're all just biting at this guy for having an opinion. There's all sorts of people who watch Psych, and therefore will have different opinions about it. The haters probably stopped watching the show and don't know this forum exists. Others feel that the show can do better, and just want to be reassured that they're not alone. All shows can do better, if there aren't people who express dissatisfaction about it, then it won't get better because it will be assumed that it doesn't need to get better. Right now, Psych is still doing pretty good. But I also noticed that people liked different seasons, but also had their pet peeves about certain aspects of the show. But as we've seen, the creators and writers are doing their best to move forward and have learned from past mistakes. So, instead of flaming this guy, let others feel that they can post what the really feel and not think that they're going to get burned too.
Skunkdog
Aug 26 2009, 01:47 PM
So I finally got around to watching high noonish from my DVR, and the episode wasnt that great. Im shocked. /sarcasm
Seriously, what were the writers thinking? You just know the conversation was this:
Writer 1:
Lets have some random guy that has absolutely no point to the entire plot until the very end to be the murderer who kills another random person that we barely learn about in a run-down tourist trap made to look like the wild west while shawn and gus act bored and sit around the entire time.
Writer 2:
Brilliant!
This episode was lame. Shawn and Gus didnt even act like they wanted to be there. It just seemed like roday and hill just wanted their pay check so they wouldnt have to a part of this episode. Its like they knew before-hand that it wasnt going to be good. The accents didnt add much to the episode either and further showed that everyone was bored. I guess it was nice to learn a little backstory to lassiter, but even then i didnt care to know that he spent every waking moment of his weekends during his childhood roaming that god-forsaken land with and old coot.
USAophile
Aug 26 2009, 02:36 PM
QUOTE (Skunkdog @ Aug 26 2009, 11:47 AM)

So I finally got around to watching high noonish from my DVR, and the episode wasnt that great. Im shocked. /sarcasm
Seriously, what were the writers thinking? You just know the conversation was this:
Writer 1:
Lets have some random guy that has absolutely no point to the entire plot until the very end to be the murderer who kills another random person that we barely learn about in a run-down tourist trap made to look like the wild west while shawn and gus act bored and sit around the entire time.
Writer 2:
Brilliant!
This episode was lame. Shawn and Gus didnt even act like they wanted to be there. It just seemed like roday and hill just wanted their pay check so they wouldnt have to a part of this episode. Its like they knew before-hand that it wasnt going to be good. The accents didnt add much to the episode either and further showed that everyone was bored. I guess it was nice to learn a little backstory to lassiter, but even then i didnt care to know that he spent every waking moment of his weekends during his childhood roaming that god-forsaken land with and old coot.
We get it, you don't like this season.
I enjoyed this episode
Glowzinski
Aug 26 2009, 05:01 PM
Well, I kind of felt the same way. At least when I first saw the second season I did. But then I realized, they can't have a show based only on one characters ability to see things that others miss. If they did, they show would probably end rather fast. I think that in the first season, they wanted to show everyone what Sean could do. Then they deepened the story. They did so by showing Sean trying to find something that he was good at and that he could do as a career. He had a lot of jobs before, but nothing serious. Also, they allways make it look like Sean and Juliet are in to each other. It's fun to watch them and see how they sometimes act. They have references from the 80s which are allways fun. As well and quick one liners and funny names for each other at times in the show. The cast is full of seasoned pros an rather new comers alike. It's great to look at the younger one and wonder what they will be doing in 20 years. I'm only 24 myself and would like to be an actor. So, everyone in the cast is a role model to me. The show has humor as well as being serious at times. The two main characters work so well together. So does the entire cast for that matter. I love the show. It is in fact my favorite. I found out I missed the first two episodes!!!! Good thing I have an apple TV.
Skunkdog
Aug 29 2009, 11:16 AM
Just watched the devils in the details episode
mixed feelings about it
It was probably the best episode for this season and i found it to be enjoyable and funny. I actually liked this episode, however, i didnt like how shawn was acting like an ass the entire time.
zkinger33
Aug 29 2009, 11:57 AM
Ok, Psych was and STILL IS one of or the funniest show on television. Every single season is absolutely brilliant. I agree with the other people maybe its YOU not Psych. Maybe you are just trying to find flaws in Psych and that's it. You are entitled to your opinion, but leave the people who watch the show for entertainment and not flaws out of this. Keep your negativity to your self. Psych is the greatest show ever!
p.s. Obviously you care a lot about this show if you wrote and entire page on it.
elyseCitrus
Aug 29 2009, 01:08 PM
I'm sorry the show doesn't live up to all your expectations.
My personal thoughts are: I love Psych because it is ridiculous, because it doesn't take itself too seriously, and because the characters are not your average detectives/cops/role models. Yes, Shawn is an ass, everyone knows this. Most of the writers and producers have all said something to that effect at least once during the course of the show. I believe Mr. Roday even made a comment at one point about how Shawn really deserves to be smacked because he is so rude and annoying at times. And that's who the character is. He's annoying, and unconventional, and frequently ridiculous. He's not some cool guy cop who always makes the right move. But he is brilliant and he is a good guy at heart who despite all of his childishness will make the right decisions and is capable of being serious when he has to be.
Psych is loved because it is so different from the countless formulaic cop/detective shows that you can find at least one of on every major network. And I don't know about other fans but when I get home from work and school, and I'm done figuring out how to pay all the bills, and making all the responsible choices and decisions life requires...I want to check out for a little bit, laugh (even if the joke or person making me laugh is utterly ridiculous), and just sit back and watch some quirky characters have fun...and maybe catch a criminal every now and again
applejacks
Aug 31 2009, 09:18 PM
I think psych is really growing, from the pilot we knew nothing about this guy, except that he's a real smart alec and that him and his dad don't get along and the only person whose really got his back is his friend, but even then we knew little about them, as teh season has progressed weve seen shawn grow we have seen why he acts the way he does, his relationships and even the more dramatic side have given him a more real personallity, I love teh show and say this honestly it was hard to like the show at first because shawn was pretty self absorbed but we have seen him dare I say it "mature" at least in his relationships.....
So i don;t think psych is losing it's touch i think it's taking a new touch, because the more rounded the charaacters are the more lifelike they are, and the more we'll sympathize or agree with them, they become our friends that we want to see play out their lifes
I think the writers have done an excellent job with this somthing every writer aspires to do, and these guys have accomplished.
So i'm happy, and if you writers happen to read this thank you.you guys are inspirational! and for everyone else
Keep on watching psych!
Reiterin
Sep 1 2009, 08:36 PM
QUOTE (Skunkdog @ Aug 7 2009, 10:13 AM)

Are you saying that to be a true fan of Psych, that I have to like every last episode and think that its amazing? No, thats not how a fan is defined. I can very well still be a fan and admit that there are some episodes that I did not care for.
I have to agree with that point.
I do not care for the "darker" episodes, however I like all seasons (overall) equally well.
And I thought the art thief in Canada was a Great kick off to this season! - One of my Favorite episodes to date. I mean really!! It takes place in Canada! ...and who doesn't love Cary Elwes??
mariam_1
Sep 2 2009, 09:50 AM
I seriously think this threads needs to just stop, because if you don't like the show then stop watching it. Don't come on here saying this and that because all you're gonna get is mostly negative feedback. I'm a big fan of Psych and doesn't mean I like every single episode. If I stop liking a show then I'll just stop watching it, not make write a whole topic about. I really could care less if you don't like it. Just because one person doesn't like the show doesn't mean everyone else is gonna agree with you and bash the show. Seriously this thread is stupid and needs to drop. And I know I'm being bitchy but that's just part of my personality.

So if you don't like the show. OH WELL. I really don't care. Nice knowing you!
MI_Psych_Fan
Sep 2 2009, 10:31 AM
I agree with Skunkdog. The shows has been going downhill. I don't even want season 3 on DVD! But I'll keep watching and hoping for it to get better. Thank goodness the cast carries the show so well despite the stories. Psych forever!
USAophile
Sep 2 2009, 08:08 PM
QUOTE (MI_Psych_Fan @ Sep 2 2009, 08:31 AM)

I agree with Skunkdog. The shows has been going downhill. I don't even want season 3 on DVD! But I'll keep watching and hoping for it to get better. Thank goodness the cast carries the show so well despite the stories. Psych forever!
You should really reconsider about buying the seaon 3 DVDs. There are some GREAT bonus features on it!!
applejacks
Sep 2 2009, 08:39 PM
QUOTE (USAophile @ Sep 2 2009, 09:08 PM)

You should really reconsider about buying the seaon 3 DVDs. There are some GREAT bonus features on it!!
I just watch the deleted scenes from murder anyone anyone, buelluer ( murdered the spelling) and they where great, i want to see more deleted scenes but youtube only has a few like a few from scary sherry, buelluer, and one from psy vrs psy.
So yeah Juliet was so happy when she got prom queen, I thought it was a cute moment for her and her and shawn.