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Episode #8 "The Honeymoon's Over"

Hank unexpectedly takes on a successful children's book illustrator who has a serious heart condition, causing tension between him and Jill. Meanwhile, Divya treats a newlywed with a hard-to-diagnose ailment that takes the fun out of his honeymoon plans.

So what did everyone think of tonight's episode?
USANetfan1091
I thought this weeks episode was pretty good! Plenty of suspense with Zach(the cartoon guy). Evan and Divya were great as usual. Also, I was very happy to see that Hank and Jill made up! but was stunned when I saw the text message on Jills' phone from charlie. I'm very interested to see what happens between Jill and Charlie and where Hank is going to fit in with all of this.
zanelauser30
what did the text say at the end couldnt read it
Sidneyc
Let's see.... we've already had a insect in the body once before this season; viewer had to know that artist's condition had to do with the tea he drank. It was mentioned too often.
priorhouse
I am not watching the show anymore because of the sex scenes- After the sex scene in the walk-in cooler (ep. #5) and then one on the island w/ the preg. lady (ep.#6)- well - not my type of show! Certain sex scenes are totally unnecessary for a great story (unless that is what you are using to make the show interesting) but we are deleting any recorded episodes and we are taking the show off of our list because of the mildly polluting sex scenes (and average plots).


Episode #8 "The Honeymoon's Over"

So what did everyone think of tonight's episode?
believr
I really dislike the Evan character and his fawning over the wealthy clients on this show and hitting on every woman, married or not -- he has zero class or couth. He is completely unprofessional and I don't see why Hank or Divya put up with him at all. Hank is all about privacy and discretion and Evan is an idiot that would probably cause Hank to lose ALL his private patients in the real world.
Tonight's episode was just irritating to watch b/c of Evan's interference with treating a patient and with his money-grubbing antics. If they don't revamp him somehow or give him less air time, I'm going to stop watching this one.
Since when would the accountant or even a manager for a doctor go along on visits? AND make comments about treatment, i.e. repeating what Divya was suggesting to diagnose the honeymooner, etc..?? SO unrealistic.
RNhill
QUOTE (USA_Admin @ Jul 30 2009, 10:05 PM) *
Episode #8 "The Honeymoon's Over"

Hank unexpectedly takes on a successful children's book illustrator who has a serious heart condition, causing tension between him and Jill. Meanwhile, Divya treats a newlywed with a hard-to-diagnose ailment that takes the fun out of his honeymoon plans.

So what did everyone think of tonight's episode?

Hiccoughing (hiccups) is caused by phrenic nerve irritation causing the diaphragm to spasm, not the larynx. Magnesium tablets taken orally would have been a better and more accurate treatment (although with less schtick). You do have medical professionals reading over the script, don't you? The rest of the medical treatments for the most part are fine, I just think you might need better Drs or more educated writers.
bassetmom
QUOTE (zanelauser30 @ Jul 30 2009, 10:32 PM) *
what did the text say at the end couldnt read it



The text read, I am back, what are you doing now, and it was from her ex Charlie


Also like to state, I totaly enjoyed the show, and am very happy to hear that there is going to be a season 2... And I can hardly wait for the re-runs so that I can get the Pilot and 2nd eposide on my DVR again. smile.gif
SkoolLaw
I'm still enjoying the show, although I, too, thought some aspects of this episode (Evan's activities were over-the-top) were weaker than in past episodes.

However, I'm jumping in today for the primary purpose of pointing out that whoever is doing the makeup for this TELEVISION show must think they're doing makeup for the theatre. I swear last night Henry/Hank was wearing more makeup than I do! (I've also noticed this on L & O/SVU this season with the male characters, esp. Stabler.) Waaaaay too much "blush" and lips too pink. Last night, I could have sworn Hank was wearing eyeliner and mascara in addition to the blush and lipgloss/lipstick. Yuck!

Tone it down, please, please, please, please, please ...!

Skoollaw
nomex1
the writer may have been able to pull the ET tube out with a little work, but not if HANK put it in upside down as show in the close up view of him and the patient when the EMT's where treating him .

MonkShui10
It seems to me that an otherwise good show with a great premise is being ruined by the gratuitous sex scenes. The best acting I have seen so far in "Royal Pains" is the real tension between Hank and Jill in dealing with medical conflicts of interest. Their relationship should be developing from professional to loving/romance over time, not "hop in the sack" the first chance they get! They are way too eager to get their clothes off, and those scenes just come out of nowhere, and make no sense!! sad.gif

In terms of plot development with romantic/ sex interest, too much too soon is a sure fire way to a show losing its appeal, and eventually being canceled. The writers would do well to study past episodes of the best "on again/off again" TV comedy romance, "Moonlighting", with Cybill Shepherd and Bruce Willis (loved his smirk!!) and learn how to create suspense between the characters, so that when the lovemaking finally does happen, it's truly meaningful.

MonkShui
carolinaRPfan
Hey USA, good show this week! The best parts are when Hank is out in the field doing what he does best. But, I'm really pulling for Evan as he makes efforts to promote the business but not be the clown. Come on, writers---he can be the comic relief and not be the buffoon. What's interesting is that Evan is trying to grow the business....not by attending patient visits,however! You'd think that Divya could weigh in on things to do better, since she failed at 2 concierge practices. And Hank could actually listen to the guy who has some ideas! (Remember the failure rate of small businesses) Come on--this show is great, and there are only 4 more episodes until we all go into RP withdrawal! Maybe you'll make us wait until next season-- I predict a few cliffhangers, right? But good to see Jill and Hank back together --is she a great mixed message kind of girl or what!!
timizzy
QUOTE (nomex1 @ Jul 31 2009, 02:50 PM) *
the writer may have been able to pull the ET tube out with a little work, but not if HANK put it in upside down as show in the close up view of him and the patient when the EMT's where treating him .

I'm glad I was not the only one to take issue with that...If I intubated upside down, they'd pull my license....and did you notice how well he could speak after self-extubating himself without deflating the cuff??? OUCH!!
timizzy
QUOTE (RNhill @ Jul 31 2009, 01:15 AM) *
Hiccoughing (hiccups) is caused by phrenic nerve irritation causing the diaphragm to spasm, not the larynx. Magnesium tablets taken orally would have been a better and more accurate treatment (although with less schtick). You do have medical professionals reading over the script, don't you? The rest of the medical treatments for the most part are fine, I just think you might need better Drs or more educated writers.

How about that upside-down intubation and the self-extubation???
carolinaRPfan
QUOTE (timizzy @ Aug 3 2009, 10:25 AM) *
I'm glad I was not the only one to take issue with that...If I intubated upside down, they'd pull my license....and did you notice how well he could speak after self-extubating himself without deflating the cuff??? OUCH!!


Hi timizzy: I am one of this series ardent fans--will miss it over the Fall/Winter. In previous posts, I made the comment that RP was not getting its money's worth from Dr.Irv. Another poster chided me for not appreciating all he does by thinking up the McGyver scenarios. I love what he thinks up--I just wish he'd supervise the smaller interventions and use of equipment a little better. Other medical folk think he could correctly name some of the ailments--the bite on the hand,for example, or the dragging around of the xray equipment/TB testing events. (none of which would take away from the drama, characters,etc.) Divya could have escorted the honeymooner to a bedroom, instead of telling him to "drop em" in the living room with wall to wall windows! Someone will tell me again to cut the writers some slack--it's not House, you know?! If Hank can explain a BIPAP machine to the artist, he could dramatically and with Hank flair, deflate the cuff and tell the patient how to remove it. Guess we'll have to watch with one eye closed--keep watching anyway! crpf
Riss
I'm not a huge follower of TV shows, but I definitely make sure to TiVo the 4 shows in the entire landscape of current season TV that are really interesting to me. Interesting, though not all are perfect. I love shows with intelligent humor...and Royal Pains is missing that, but I love it for its potential, particularly from Evan and Divya's direction. It's potentially there, but not quite right - my bet is that the writers and actors are taking all the readers' comments into account now and planning for a next-season show that better fits what their viewers are hoping for.

Evan: The character of Evan is hugely uncomfortable and annoying to watch, and Divya's character too, at times - yet they're the only hope for that humorous element we like so much! No way would I watch the show without Evan's character...yet I have a very hard time liking him at the moments where his stupidity is too unreal. It's like a cognitive dissonance because something tells us that the character is really meant to be smarter than that, while a complicating mix of classy/unclassy, smart/stupid acting all at the same time. I think that's the key: It would be more enjoyable to see him ACT stupidly, yet not actually THINK so stupidly. In other words, he should know that he's fully capable of irritating people, but should know the times to practice self-control. I'd like to se ehim openly more vulnerable, less stupid about the women (why do shows still insult us women by having male characters act like that - even the stupidest, most sex-crazed men don't act like that toward us in real life) - and thus, more endearing. Seems as though the male viewers tend to hate him, so he could at least be redeemed in the eyes of us women if he changed a bit. I bet male viewers would enjoy him more if he were a bit more maturely manned-up - which would thus make it more plausible that women would ever like him back in the episodes. Please fix him - he's too potentially great (and potentially the most fun to watch in the show) to mess up with hated character qualities!

The sex: Untastefully turns me off of the show. Too much, too soon. I really enjoy the display of integrity in Hank and Jill's characters...then the sex messed it up for me. Ideally, it classically works to have things move slower; it'd be great if they could move toward EITHER: having their professions not so mixed in the episodes, OR: having them work more closely and committedly as a team eventually. Their professions having come into contact so much already in this season has been annoying, and again, too much too soon.

The bark mitzvah episode: hated it. I hate having the woman (owner of the dog and repeat client) seem so stupid. She can remain as flighty as she currently, but especially if she's going to be Hank's repeat client, there's got to be something that adds an element of depth to her that makes her personality a bit more endearing to us.

The emergencies: I don't agree that the show needs to have emergencies in each episode to be successful. I'm annoyed by the emergency in each and every episode, in fact. I wouldn't mind if at least 1/3 of the emergencies were cut out, to help make the show a little more plausible, thus more intelligent. All-the-time emergencies work for a show that actually takes place in a hospital, but doesn't make sense in the Hamptons.

Other characters: I don't remember their names, but the rich kid and his girlfriend - they are awesome! Would love to continue to see them incorporated in a cool or other significant way. I like the fact that Boris' character is appropriately hospitable yet secretive, but there's something annoying about some of the scenes he's involved in...I almost think it'd be rectified if his need for secrecy was played out with less dramatic scenes and clues, and much more subtlety versus obviousness - again, I think that'd make it more intelligent, plausible and enjoyable to watch.
timizzy
QUOTE (carolinaRPfan @ Aug 3 2009, 03:12 PM) *
Hi timizzy: I am one of this series ardent fans--will miss it over the Fall/Winter. In previous posts, I made the comment that RP was not getting its money's worth from Dr.Irv. Another poster chided me for not appreciating all he does by thinking up the McGyver scenarios. I love what he thinks up--I just wish he'd supervise the smaller interventions and use of equipment a little better. Other medical folk think he could correctly name some of the ailments--the bite on the hand,for example, or the dragging around of the xray equipment/TB testing events. (none of which would take away from the drama, characters,etc.) Divya could have escorted the honeymooner to a bedroom, instead of telling him to "drop em" in the living room with wall to wall windows! Someone will tell me again to cut the writers some slack--it's not House, you know?! If Hank can explain a BIPAP machine to the artist, he could dramatically and with Hank flair, deflate the cuff and tell the patient how to remove it. Guess we'll have to watch with one eye closed--keep watching anyway! crpf

And what about the flagrant HIPPA violation for tracking down a patient based on his medical information?? We had three people in Arkansas get federal misdemeanor charges (fines and probabtion - one was a physician) for violating HIPPA....
timizzy
QUOTE (USA_Admin @ Jul 30 2009, 09:05 PM) *
Episode #8 "The Honeymoon's Over"

Hank unexpectedly takes on a successful children's book illustrator who has a serious heart condition, causing tension between him and Jill. Meanwhile, Divya treats a newlywed with a hard-to-diagnose ailment that takes the fun out of his honeymoon plans.

So what did everyone think of tonight's episode?

Medically, legally, and ethically, I don't think Evan has the right or should be sitting in on patient exams.....he is the finanacial person for crying out loud....go back home and file and code for insurance, mail out bills, and do collections/marketing; leave the patient treatment to the MEDICAL professionals...
Spinnerina
QUOTE (timizzy @ Aug 3 2009, 05:07 PM) *
Medically, legally, and ethically, I don't think Evan has the right or should be sitting in on patient exams.....he is the finanacial person for crying out loud....go back home and file and code for insurance, mail out bills, and do collections/marketing; leave the patient treatment to the MEDICAL professionals...



And you really think that the audience would tune in each week to watch Evan do boring paperwork? You guys crack me up! It's a tv show for Goodness Sake. It's fiction. Things happen in TV Land that would never happen in real life. That's the fun!
DramaQueenBroadway
QUOTE (Spinnerina @ Aug 3 2009, 04:34 PM) *
And you really think that the audience would tune in each week to watch Evan do boring paperwork? You guys crack me up! It's a tv show for Goodness Sake. It's fiction. Things happen in TV Land that would never happen in real life. That's the fun!

Exactly...I know that Evan wouldn't be allowed to actually assist on a case, but it might be boring to see him do paperwork all the time.
EthanyStar
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