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joltme1313
the brother is annoying and takes away from the whole show. he is over acting and needs to relax... the whole hyper always scheming angle takes away from hanks cool and calm tude.. no, opposites do not always make good chemistry... the show has a great base... but the bro needs to go.. or be scaled back...
princessa102
QUOTE (joltme1313 @ Jul 14 2009, 11:13 PM) *
the brother is annoying and takes away from the whole show. he is over acting and needs to relax... the whole hyper always scheming angle takes away from hanks cool and calm tude.. no, opposites do not always make good chemistry... the show has a great base... but the bro needs to go.. or be scaled back...



I agree with yu. Perhaps he can down a whole bottle of Grey Goose L'orange and walk into the Atlantic.
pop_icon
QUOTE (princessa102 @ Jul 15 2009, 05:45 PM) *
I agree with yu. Perhaps he can down a whole bottle of Grey Goose L'orange and walk into the Atlantic.

hah! hilarious
PaigeG
QUOTE (pop_icon @ Jul 16 2009, 12:04 AM) *
hah! hilarious



So sorry but in my opinion Evan is the only one with any personality; everyone is too bland...even Hank....
adrianna10
QUOTE (PaigeG @ Jul 16 2009, 08:37 AM) *
So sorry but in my opinion Evan is the only one with any personality; everyone is too bland...even Hank....


That is right! Jill is a very lame character, nothing special, but it is ok for me, because the writers have liked to make her like that, Hank is a quite typical doctor-character, young, smart, maybe good-looking, every mother´s dream for their daughter, but not a man with a real interesting personality, quite an ordinary guy. Divya has a more interesting character than Jill, so better for Evan. laugh.gif And Boris is also an interesting person, but somehow still his character is a little "hidden". Evan is the shaker of the show, as someone said somewhere.
SeanDowney
Ok, well the person above me is right about Jill, boring and honestly not that attractive. But she is not that bad of charector, i think she is a good match for hank, both hard working put my job first people. Evan is the best person on the show, by FAR! the most personality. The person who honestly kills the show is Dyvia, she is awful. She is not a good actor, she is not funny, she does not come off as intelligent at all!!!!! she was sooooo annoying the first time she came on the show, coming out of now where begging to be the assistant, she is useless, if it wasnt for mommy and daddy buying her a hooked up rang rover with medical machines in it. I am praying that there is no chemistry between any guy and her in the show. There has been so many hints on her and Evan getting together and i will stop watching the show if that happens. DOWN WITH DYVIA!!!!! They should have get married to this male order guy or what ever, just anything get her off the show!!!!!!!! please usa! replace her with a funny person, it would make the show so much better, and then they can have this girl mix with Evan.... who is the best person PEOPLE!
SeanDowney
ok im not done yet... the first post is really dumb. So your saying Hank, the main person on the show, should have a brother like him?????? are you crazy, do you watch tv? you need the opposite, and who wants to watch a show about two calm cool people? they would both have to be doctors for that to make sense, and that takes away the whole premise of the show. With out the "over acting hyper" brother they WOULD HAVE NEVER GOT TO THE HAMPTONS!!!!! two Hanks would not have the balls to go out and sneak into Boris's place with using his distance cuz's name. Who would be the comedy aspect? you telling me you would want a totally cool and calm show? naaaaaa thats dumb, you need Evan. We all know Dyvia does not cut it. and you can only have so many rich snobby woman to be funny, that gets old..... so agian DOWN WITH DYVIA!
Ponder_This
I do like the show. BUT Evan has got to go. He makes stupid decisions’ and dumb comments. Mature him up, give him some intelligence and give him something to make him believable.
pegofmyheart
I love the show! It's best I've seen all summer. This is the perfect vehicle for Hank. I've not liked his other attempts at TV. The other characters that surround him are all believable. I love the people of the Hamptons, they are the ones who are so outrageous and make the show. Maybe make his brother a little smarter and not such a baffoon. I like Divvia and think her character works. Keep it up and you'll continue to have a wonderful show. I look forward to it each week.
CCB
Really need to lose the brother character.
supnick
i'm starting to think there's only one dude who doesn't like evan and all these people are just his alternate accounts
carolinaRPfan
QUOTE (SeanDowney @ Jul 16 2009, 10:41 PM) *
Ok, well the person above me is right about Jill, boring and honestly not that attractive. But she is not that bad of charector, i think she is a good match for hank, both hard working put my job first people. Evan is the best person on the show, by FAR! the most personality. The person who honestly kills the show is Dyvia, she is awful. She is not a good actor, she is not funny, she does not come off as intelligent at all!!!!! she was sooooo annoying the first time she came on the show, coming out of now where begging to be the assistant, she is useless, if it wasnt for mommy and daddy buying her a hooked up rang rover with medical machines in it. I am praying that there is no chemistry between any guy and her in the show. There has been so many hints on her and Evan getting together and i will stop watching the show if that happens. DOWN WITH DYVIA!!!!! They should have get married to this male order guy or what ever, just anything get her off the show!!!!!!!! please usa! replace her with a funny person, it would make the show so much better, and then they can have this girl mix with Evan.... who is the best person PEOPLE!


Am I with you, Sean! Most of the forum folks here LOVE Divya. I am not in that circle--have called her a rude, pushy person who is all about putting Evan down.....(think she may be really threatened by Evan's place in the brother hierarchy) While he didn't start out as a favorite, he is starting to be written with some useful and less over the top qualities. As you have probably read here, HE is the one who blasted Hank out of Brooklyn--he made it happen. He is suceeding at marketing HankMed, and look at the bright shiny reward he earned when the episode ended! Divya failed twice before this at being the PA--hope she is smart enough to dial back the insecurity. Don't give up on RP just yet-- the series is just at the halfway point. It has down pretty well in the ratings, so some of us hope it will be picked up for another season.
PaigeG
QUOTE (Ponder_This @ Jul 16 2009, 10:02 PM) *
I do like the show. BUT Evan has got to go. He makes stupid decisions’ and dumb comments. Mature him up, give him some intelligence and give him something to make him believable.



Wait a second...read what you wrote. "He makes stupid decisions' and dumb comments."

Um

Isn't that ALL of us? Who in the world is perfect like Hank? You? Me? Hell no....
Please..give me more characters like Evan; then more shows would be believable.
gooie_choclatechip_cookie5
QUOTE (PaigeG @ Jul 17 2009, 07:38 AM) *
Wait a second...read what you wrote. "He makes stupid decisions' and dumb comments."

Um

Isn't that ALL of us? Who in the world is perfect like Hank? You? Me? Hell no....
Please..give me more characters like Evan; then more shows would be believable.

hey! its paige!!!
i do have to agree with you. every tv show needs its tony or shawn, and in royal pains, its evan
ronH
QUOTE (PaigeG @ Jul 17 2009, 07:38 AM) *
Wait a second...read what you wrote. "He makes stupid decisions' and dumb comments."

Um

Isn't that ALL of us? Who in the world is perfect like Hank?


It's not that Evan is imperfect that's the problem, it's that he's a wooden cog that fits a space between existing relationships, but is not convincing as played. He's not a rounded human being here, he's just simply annoying. I've seen nothing that makes Evan likable in the least, not even small glimpses of vulnerability to elicit some sympathy for the life we know he's probably lived in the shadow of his brilliant, older brother. If we're to feel anything for Evan, we need a reason, and the only "reason" I can find is a reason to dislike him.
I know his character is a counter-point to Hank, and love interest for Divya. But right now, he's a giant zero for me.

As for Divya, unlike some comments here, I find her utterly convincing. I see subtleties in her portrayal of a rather cool, efficient machine of a business woman that do reveal cracks in her veneer, showing touches of the vulnerability that's so lacking in Evan's character. In Divya, I can see the human side that Evan doesn't have. She's a rounded personality where Evan is not.

An aside: I've seen the opinion here that Divya has a grudge against Evan that drives her to "put him down", but it seems to me that Divya is actually attracted to Evan (why, I'll never understand from the way he's portrayed). "Putting him down" whenever the chance appears is her defense against attraction to a man her upbringing teaches her is beneath her status in life.

So, we have Divya: highly educated, very complex, interesting and beautiful. And we have Evan, who is simply a jerk of a person who, unlike anyone else, likes to wear very identifiable status clothing (nice touch with the very obvious penguin monogram, btw) to try and gain the respect he cannot generate with the strength of his own personality, and displays nothing we can identify with as a human being. What's to like, here? smile.gif

Evan's struggles as the man in the shadow of his shining brother, trying to find his own identity, could actually make for an interesting character. But unfortunately he shows us nothing to make us sympathize with his plight. At least, I can't see it.

So, if Divya's character can bring some personality to the screen that draws us in, why not Evan?

Ron
PaigeG
QUOTE (gooie_choclatechip_cookie5 @ Jul 17 2009, 08:57 AM) *
hey! its paige!!!
i do have to agree with you. every tv show needs its tony or shawn, and in royal pains, its evan



hiya gooie!

I still think, and I probably always will, that Evan has more personality than his brother. I know other people think otherwise and that's okay...

But did anyone notice how much more attention Evan gets than his brother here?
How ironic...
lol
joltme1313
ok, first off i never said, "hey lets have 2 hanks"... i said scale his bro's over acting back... i might be stupid but when there is a character who is so over the top and fake and unbelievable i turn the channel... because i do watch enough t.v to know what sucks... i think the asst. is hot. love her accent and love how she puts the bro in his place...

yes the girlfriend can use a bit of sass or spunk or something to give her a little edge... but she doesnt suck... yet....

plus most of the side characters are getting a little interesting...

i guess idiots are just attracted to other idiots... right sean?
MissEllie
I really like ALL the characters except for the actress/character of Jill. I just don't think she's a very good actress and doesn't seem to "fit" with Hank. I'm not feeling the love for her.

As far as anyone else, I wouldn't change a thing. I love Divya, Evan and Hank.
PaigeG
QUOTE (MissEllie @ Jul 18 2009, 10:14 AM) *
I really like ALL the characters except for the actress/character of Jill. I just don't think she's a very good actress and doesn't seem to "fit" with Hank. I'm not feeling the love for her.

As far as anyone else, I wouldn't change a thing. I love Divya, Evan and Hank.



Well said....
Bratcat46
I agree, basically love the show but the brother has to go or be toned way way down. If anything takes this show down it will be the brother character.

QUOTE (joltme1313 @ Jul 14 2009, 11:13 PM) *
the brother is annoying and takes away from the whole show. he is over acting and needs to relax... the whole hyper always scheming angle takes away from hanks cool and calm tude.. no, opposites do not always make good chemistry... the show has a great base... but the bro needs to go.. or be scaled back...

gooie_choclatechip_cookie5
QUOTE (supnick @ Jul 16 2009, 11:57 PM) *
i'm starting to think there's only one dude who doesn't like evan and all these people are just his alternate accounts

haha, i had that happen on the psych forums. they (he) was terrible so much so that because i siad all the "gief" people were the same person so he named they're group the "gief people"
MissEllie
I hope the writers take more time developing the primary characters, rather than introducing a lot more recurring characters that sort of "muddy up" the storylines. In my opinion, the kiss of death for a series is bringing in TOO MANY characters and not fully developing any of them sufficiently.

I liked Evan initially and I'm liking him more and more with each episode.
Evansgrrrl
I'M TOTALLY & UTTERLY IN LOVE WITH THE CHARACTER OF EVAN R. LAWSON!!!! (hello...look at my name lol) Maybe that has a lot to do w/ the fact that I'm a 15 year old girl, but I don't care he's still HAWT & super funny!!! I personally thinks he makes the show, just my opinion.
chuckm_1
Evan is an egomaniac, over acting, selfcentered, idiot, with no money, riding on his brothers persona. He has nothing to offer anyone other than several women on this and other forums that have nobody to love in reality. His hair brained schemes are nothingmore than a off sided attempt by the writers to make everyone think he indispensable. As I have said he needs a seroius optorectomy to head his head out of his butt.
Evansgrrrl
QUOTE (chuckm_1 @ Jul 21 2009, 06:29 PM) *
Evan is an egomaniac, over acting, selfcentered, idiot, with no money, riding on his brothers persona. He has nothing to offer anyone other than several women on this and other forums that have nobody to love in reality. His hair brained schemes are nothingmore than a off sided attempt by the writers to make everyone think he indispensable. As I have said he needs a seroius optorectomy to head his head out of his butt.

Geez, that was a serious hate comment. What did Evan ever do to you for u to feel so strongly about this?
Jeuruad
QUOTE (Evansgrrrl @ Jul 21 2009, 08:12 PM) *
Geez, that was a serious hate comment. What did Evan ever do to you for u to feel so strongly about this?


Geez, your previous comment was a serious love comment. What did Evan ever do to you, for you to feel so strongly?

QUOTE (Evansgrrrl @ Jul 20 2009, 11:56 PM) *
I'M TOTALLY & UTTERLY IN LOVE WITH THE CHARACTER OF EVAN R. LAWSON!!!! (hello...look at my name lol) Maybe that has a lot to do w/ the fact that I'm a 15 year old girl, but I don't care he's still HAWT & super funny!!! I personally thinks he makes the show, just my opinion.

PaigeG
QUOTE (Jeuruad @ Jul 21 2009, 08:38 PM) *
Geez, your previous comment was a serious love comment. What did Evan ever do to you, for you to feel so strongly?



lol
So we have people at both extremes; makes it more fun
Don't you agree?
Evansgrrrl
QUOTE (Jeuruad @ Jul 21 2009, 09:38 PM) *
Geez, your previous comment was a serious love comment. What did Evan ever do to you, for you to feel so strongly?

True, true. lol I think I'm more in love with the actor cuz I've loved every character he's played & not just because of the looks either.
USANetfan1091
Evan is a great character and I have to disagree with everyone that wants him out. His personality is funny and it brings a lot of humor to the show. No other character brings as much humor to the show as he does, so if he was gone, what would the show be like? It would be a little too serious and not as good as it is now. Evan has to stay!!
Ponder_This

After watching the show tonight, I have to repeat "I would like to see Divya insult Evan to the point he goes away and starts his own spin off so this show can grow and prosper. EVAN needs to GO in order to save the show!" For those that like Evan (he is such a distraction and stupid) give him a spin off and bring in an intelligent foil with a mature humor instead of "Road Trip" stupidity and "Screch" (Saved By the Bell) inability to learn and social ineptness!PLEASE GET RID OF EVAN or have him grow as a character and an adult ASAP! Not sure if it is his acting or the writer's, BUT HE IS IRRATATING. Like in Burn Notice the humor is natural not dependent on an Obnosious CLOWN as one of the weekly character's. I like the story lines and guest stars, but if Evan stays, I think he will wear on the audience and they will stop watching. I felt the same way about "Chuck". Chuck would not grow, make the same stupid mistakes every week, and as we saw, by the time the writer's started to have him grow as a adult and charater, it was to late.
ILYOLIVIA
I like Evan. He's pretty cool. If you don't like him, change the channel when there's a scene with him. How bout that?
Teresa1643
QUOTE (Ponder_This @ Jul 23 2009, 08:05 PM) *
I think he will wear on the audience and they will stop watching.

So far they're staying in droves. The ratings were up again last week.
purplegoldkat
I think Evan is an awesome character. I mean, he's kind of the "spice" to the show. I like the jokes he has and he has a genuine personality. It makes the show that much more interesting to watch. Him and Hank have good brother chemistry - Hank as the compassionate, somewhat serious one, and Evan as the hip, snarky one. It's a very cool contrast to watch. I also love the scenes he has with Divya!

Personally, I love all the characters on the show, but the one that leaves me a bit cold is Jill. I don't have a problem with her, but there's just something about her that...I dunno. It's hard to explain.

Anyway, I absolutely love this show! And I can't wait for the next episode!
Jonibaby
Thank you! I thought that I was the only one who found Evan so annoying. His character makes my brain hurt!!! The show would be a thousand times better without him. We can only hope that the season finale includes them finding Evan in Boris's shark tank.
PaigeG
QUOTE (Jonibaby @ Jul 25 2009, 06:58 AM) *
Thank you! I thought that I was the only one who found Evan so annoying. His character makes my brain hurt!!! The show would be a thousand times better without him. We can only hope that the season finale includes them finding Evan in Boris's shark tank.



Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect yours but I'm beginning to feel the same way about Hank....
Jonibaby
QUOTE (PaigeG @ Jul 25 2009, 08:43 AM) *
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect yours but I'm beginning to feel the same way about Hank....


I have to agree.... Hank is starting to turn into Doctor McGuiver (EVERY episode lately).
christmasgirl26
QUOTE (joltme1313 @ Jul 14 2009, 11:13 PM) *
the brother is annoying and takes away from the whole show. he is over acting and needs to relax... the whole hyper always scheming angle takes away from hanks cool and calm tude.. no, opposites do not always make good chemistry... the show has a great base... but the bro needs to go.. or be scaled back...

Evan is ruining the show for us. He gets on our nerves so bad it is taking away from the show. I would rather have a root canal that listen or watch Evan. I agree either get rid of him or scale him back. I like the show it is new, refreshing concept and I would like to keep watching but Evan is joke and he takes away from show. If I wanted to watch whiney, bratty kids I would watch one of those shows with parents raising multiples like "Raising Sextpulets" which has 6 whiney/crying 2 year kids which get on my nerves less than Evan.
Jeuruad
QUOTE (Jonibaby @ Jul 25 2009, 11:49 AM) *
I have to agree.... Hank is starting to turn into Doctor McGuiver (EVERY episode lately).


Lol, so the title of the show is referring to Evan and how much of a royal pain in the ass he is, and not to Hank and his dealings with Upper-crust royal pains. If I had seen this in the pilot I would have stopped watching part way through the pilot. Instead I saw a doctor who uses unconventional methods to assist patents, and did so four different times in the pilot. For some reason I got the impression that using methods that are outside of the box, and treating upper-crust, was what this show is about. In fact every episode that I have watched has had him do this at least once.

As far as I know Hank is the primary character, and if you have issues with some of his quirks then list them, and maybe they will be taken care of in the show. His McGuiverism is not a quirk, but I primary characteristic, and if you cannot deal with this I suggest you go on to a knew show.

As for Evan, from the very first episode I’ve been trying to figure out who he reminds me of, and it suddenly donned on me. He reminds me of the brother in-law on Weeds. For me the brother in-law works on Weeds (Though he still irritates the hells out of me at times.), and the brother does not work on Royal Pains (He irritates the hells out of me all of the time.).
jbowe
We have 3 episodes recorded and cannot get through any of them because of the annoying brother Evan. His character type is needed, but this is the wrong actor with too many bad lines. He is always forcing himself on us. This guy, like in the show, would be avoided at parties, so why do we tolerate him in this show. Come on USA, send the guy back to the City and send Hank's best friend out that can be Hank's alter ego, but allows us to sit through an entire episode.

Thumbs down on Evan.
PaigeG
QUOTE (Jeuruad @ Jul 26 2009, 12:41 AM) *
Lol, so the title of the show is referring to Evan and how much of a royal pain in the ass he is, and not to Hank and his dealings with Upper-crust royal pains. If I had seen this in the pilot I would have stopped watching part way through the pilot. Instead I saw a doctor who uses unconventional methods to assist patents, and did so four different times in the pilot. For some reason I got the impression that using methods that are outside of the box, and treating upper-crust, was what this show is about. In fact every episode that I have watched has had him do this at least once.

As far as I know Hank is the primary character, and if you have issues with some of his quirks then list them, and maybe they will be taken care of in the show. His McGuiverism is not a quirk, but I primary characteristic, and if you cannot deal with this I suggest you go on to a knew show.

As for Evan, from the very first episode I’ve been trying to figure out who he reminds me of, and it suddenly donned on me. He reminds me of the brother in-law on Weeds. For me the brother in-law works on Weeds (Though he still irritates the hells out of me at times.), and the brother does not work on Royal Pains (He irritates the hells out of me all of the time.).



Hank doesn't have any "quirks" because he's boring....
Evan has character

And that, my dear friends, is just my opinion...nothing more, nothing less
Teresa1643
Having a stable central character, like Hank, is the usual way to build a TV series. His job is to react to the other characters and provide the audience perspective. Evan's job is to be the supporting character to whom Hank reacts. The show really needs them both.
HottinCA
QUOTE (Bratcat46 @ Jul 19 2009, 04:01 PM) *
I agree, basically love the show but the brother has to go or be toned way way down. If anything takes this show down it will be the brother character.

What I don't get about Evan, is he is the dumbest C.P.A. I have ever seen. How does that happen?
EurekaRP
QUOTE (HottinCA @ Jul 27 2009, 04:01 AM) *
What I don't get about Evan, is he is the dumbest C.P.A. I have ever seen. How does that happen?

From what they have presented recently, Evan is doing his job competently. He has an immature personality.
There is a difference.
And you can find this in most workplace scenarios.
PaigeG
QUOTE (HottinCA @ Jul 27 2009, 05:01 AM) *
What I don't get about Evan, is he is the dumbest C.P.A. I have ever seen. How does that happen?



Since we've never actually seen him working as a CPA, how can we tell he's dumb? And I think he does a pretty good job as CFO for HankMed....
lalabear
I think the actress playing Divya is doing a fine job. I wish they hadn't cast someone so actor/model looking as her fiance. He did an ok job, and def. came across as likable, but a bit one dimensional. He'll probably come back in subsequent episodes, but I don't buy he works hard for a living in the hotel biz, because he looks like a model. And is that what Divya wants, more superficiality in the Hamptons?
brocktonsmom
QUOTE (Ponder_This @ Jul 16 2009, 10:02 PM) *
I do like the show. BUT Evan has got to go. He makes stupid decisions’ and dumb comments. Mature him up, give him some intelligence and give him something to make him believable.

huh. i kinda disagree. didn't you see the one where they are stranded on the island and evan has a bit of a heart to heart with that kid. also i have never been to the hamptons, but are those people REALLY like that? it's absurd! where do these crazy people come from!!!

and for the person who said they have divya. i didn't like her at first but i'm warming up to her. and here is the shallow side of me...i LOVE her outfits.
brocktonsmom
QUOTE (lalabear @ Jul 28 2009, 12:38 PM) *
I think the actress playing Divya is doing a fine job. I wish they hadn't cast someone so actor/model looking as her fiance. He did an ok job, and def. came across as likable, but a bit one dimensional. He'll probably come back in subsequent episodes, but I don't buy he works hard for a living in the hotel biz, because he looks like a model. And is that what Divya wants, more superficiality in the Hamptons?


it's an arranged marriage. so she really has no say. and didn't you see crazy love? it's pretty obvious she doesn't want to marry the guy.
lalabear
QUOTE (brocktonsmom @ Jul 28 2009, 12:50 PM) *
it's an arranged marriage. so she really has no say. and didn't you see crazy love? it's pretty obvious she doesn't want to marry the guy.


Of course I saw the episode mom, but you don't make out with a guy like that (and yes, she pulled away at the end) and not have mixed emotions. So I should have said she's involved model guy but she clearly has mixed emotions.
aspen123
The character of Evan used to be to over the top for me, however; so was the whole premise of the show. The whole super model, Hamptons, rich & famous etc.

I think the character of Evan, like the show, is evolving and has been toned down since the first couple of episodes.

I enjoy his funny quips. For example when they (Hank & Evan) were w/ that family who had those twin girls and he was like 'Yea, I wanted to go on vacation but not w/ the twins from The Shining.' (or something like that.) He was really sweet and funloving with the little boy in that episode too.

Another example: Last weeks episode when that character on the show had that little knife and he was calling him Highlander & Zoro. lol

Just my humble opinion.
TomboTronic
Not really replying to anyone in particular, just replying to the last post as a way to respond to the entire thread. I was quite afraid, at first, that this was going to turn into House in the Hamptons. Just another new mystery disease of the week. But it has come along quite nicely. Much of this is due to the variety of characters. I think all of the characters add equally to the success of the show. Evan is responsible for most of the comic aspects of the show. Without him and his 'over the top' antics I think this would be a very boring show in many ways. Divya adds a bit of mystery. Hank, of course, is the main character and provides the plot pivots. Sure Jill is a bit bland, but she is wonderful as a fill character providing Hank with a love interest. Of all of the side characters... I think Boris is the most interesting and I can't wait to see what will happen with him. Anyway... I really like the show and I think there are no really bad characters. Each one fills his or her role in making the show a cohesive unit.
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