I want to see Olivia's brother have more of a role in her life in the upcoming season. We have seen Elliot's personal life with his wife and children, we have seen Fin's son and step-son and ex-wife, and we have just recently been introduced to Munch's ex. I think it's Olivia's turn to have her personal life with her family play a role next season.

What do you guys think? What would you like to see happen or continue to happen next season??

-MH

I want Liv and El to work together again and be friends and I want Liv to open up to El about what happened to her at Sealview

Munch and Fin have more episodes (like Manhunt)

I wouldn't mind Ken, Fin's son, making a few more appearances, especially in gay-related storylines

No more Kathleen Stabler. If they are going to show Kathleen then show her with other family members instead of solo. Focus on the other children instead- have Maureen get married and Elliot not handling it (Wanderlust comes to mind), Dickie is good (bonus for alpha), and of course Elizabeth. She's the forgotten children, the Chuck Cunningham curse. Put Elizabeth front and center. With the exception of Eli, Elizabeth has appeared in less episodes then her three siblings. Of course I want them to use Kathy more, show the 'upswing' marriage I've heard about earlier this year!

Olivia needs to be shot. Now before you all get huffy and puffy at me, let me explain! Elliot has gotten shot (3 times! My poor baby!), Fin has gotten shot, Munch has gotten shot, Lake has gotten shot, even Alex Cabot has gotten shot! I'm sure Cragen even has a few bullet wound scars somewhere on his body. She needs to join the club. I don't want her to die, just shot, in the arm or leg. That's all.

Jeffries and/or Cassidy to return for brief visit, a joint working on a case would be good, either Vice or Narcotics working with Special Victims.

I want the cast to be mourning of Ryan O'Halloran, some emotional scenes. Like Warner breaking into tears when she works with CSU on a DNA sample or a funeral or something. I just want to see something about Ryan's death and memory, even if it's just one episode. I don't want it to be forgotten.

That's all for now. I'm sure more ideas will come as the hiatus progresses.

I definitely with you about Ryan I want to see emotional scenes discussing his death and I want to see the impact it has on the squad, it definitely shouldn't be forgotten even if it's like you mentioned only for one episode. I'd also love to see Melinda involved in the cases way more than she is which is barely of course it's nothing new to me, also I love to see Fin on more too and Ken as well I love him a lot.

The upswing in the Stabler marriage. Especially some mention of their 25th wedding anniversary. That's a big one and should be celebrated.

Fin, Ken and the same-sex marriage issue in an episode.

Mistakes made in earlier episodes coming back to bite people in the *ss. In particular, Harris gets his conviction for Ashley's rape overturned due to Olivia contaminating the ID. Olivia loses it. To be allowed back to work, she has to see a shrink.She has to talk about what happened at Sealview. She can tell the shrink, she can tell Elliot, she can tell Alex. As long as it isn't magically fixed off camera.

Wrap up the Munch-Amy Solway story.

If Simon Marsden must come back, let's find out he really is a rapist.

Don't let O'Halloran's death be in vain. Something has to come out of it.

An episode for Cragen, but not that's he's started drinking again. Let him use his experience to help someone else stopping drinking.

A new and improved Cassidy comes in to work a join case between SVU and Narcotics. Cassidy and Munch interact, Cassidy and Fin interact, Cassidy and Olivia interact.

The return of Darius Parker to be tried for the murder of the Stansfield baby. There's a witness who didn't talk before. Can the ADA make him a good enough witness to get a conviction?

I agree with all of this. I'll add more in the morning... Night all.

Why would you want Simon to be a rapist?

As for me....

Simon return and have a good relationship with Olivia. (or at least a decent one.)

I'd love to have E/O but if not, Olivia to have a stable relationship with a good man.

Olivia to have a child. (I'd love to see Elliot donate sperm so she could have a child. He wouldn't have to cheat on Kathy for it either. Something of a middle-ground for EK and EO shippers.)

Richard White to return.

Meritt Rook to return.

Cabot to talk about her time between WP and coming back to the unit.

Jefferies to come back for a case or two.

Have Cabot and Novak be duel ADA's for the unit.

See more Trevor Langan.

Hear more about Munch's personal life.

Munch and Amy to have a thing going. (She can be the girlfriend he mentioned).

Less of the Stabler family drama. (please I've had enough).

See Huang and Warner more. (I miss them).

BensonPrincess Posted Today, 12:39 AM
Why would you want Simon to be a rapist?

Simon Marsden was creepy. Just because he didn't assault Millfield's sister in high school and Millfield set him up with the planted hair does make him not a rapist. It just removes two pieces of evidence. The question of who was stalking the women in NJ was never answered. Nor was there an answer about who raped Dona Leanto.

I am sorry. That won't happen. This is what Neal Baer told me when I asked him if there would be a Ryan O'Halloran funeral scene.

@NealBaer: "No. The funeral was over the hiatus."

Check out on Spoiler thread.



Now that you mention it, Neal Baer was inspired at my suggestion: "O'Halloran family member
appears and seeks justice for his brother Ryan's death." Would that be a great episode?




Exactly the same request I asked from Neal. Amazing.

I just read what you mentioned and I'm sad nothing will be shown about Ryan's death, but I guess you can't have everything.

SweetDahlia Posted Today, 01:04 AM
Now that you mention it, Neal Baer was inspired at my suggestion: "O'Halloran family member
appears and seeks justice for his brother Ryan's death." Would that be a great episode?

The problem with that idea is Stuckey is going to jail on murder/attempted murder/assault charges. There isn't much doubt about that. So what justice would a family need to come and ask for?

Like others I'd like to see Olivia's brother, I'd like to see her happy in her life after all what she went through, that includes a man, and / or a possible baby ? I know she was turned down for adoption but maybe a case could lead her to change her mind, she would try to find another job and could submit for a new request for adoption? Or IVF?
And as for Stable family, like other said, I'd like to see Lizzie, see how she is with her twin, or something...
Cassidy and Jeffries: where are they now, aso...

-something happen with Simon and Olivia. I don't care whether they start to have a good relationship or he does turn out to be creepy. I didn't think he was creepy. I actually felt bad for him. He seemed like a nice guy and his life was messed up by a crooked cop who planted evidence. But, if he did turn out to be a creep, Olivia would have a hard time, question if she could be good when her dad and brother are bad, etc. The other thing is even if he's really nice, she has a hard time trusting guys in general. That's why I think it would be good if she found out she had a sister, who she could be close with.

-Going off someone else's idea for Olivia to get hurt, what if she comes close to getting sexually assaulted again and then Elliot shows up, saves her, and loses it on the would-be rapist. She doesn't have to come super close. The guy could just like rip her top and say what he's going to do to her and then Elliot could show up right away. This would bring back Olivia's bad memories and fears. We would get to see how much Elliot cares about her and how protective he is of her. And, it would open the door for Elliot to help Olivia deal with everything and heal. I think MH would do a great job with a scene like this, freaking out and reliving everything.

-If O'Halloran's family member came to try to get justice (good idea, by the way), he could either try to kill Stuckey because he doesn't think prison is sufficient punishment or he could get mad at either Olivia or Elliot--blame them since Elliot showed up too late and Olivia saved her partner, but not O'Halloran.

-I definitely want to see Alex talk about witness protection and why she didn't call Elliot or Olivia when she came back. I think it's weird that they never addressed this. I'd also like more scenes with Alex. So far, she's been back, but barely had any scenes. It could be cool if she gets involved in another case that has connections to organized crime and freaks out because last time they tried to kill her. She could refuse the case or throw it on purpose because she's scared.

-We've seen Elliot's kids screwing up, but I'd like to see a good kid involved in something. Two thoughts would be the younger daughter, who is a really sweet, good kid, gets involved with a bad boy who has a criminal record. She's not doing anything wrong, she's actually trying to help him be a better person, but of course Elliot would freak out. Or, the son, who seemed like a nice enough kid, is dating a girl and maybe he breaks up with her and she had hard feelings or something, so she accuses him of raping her even though he didn't. I like this 2nd better. It would be interesting to see Elliot's reaction-he's always going after rapists and now he would be trying to defend his son and go after the "victim."

-A storyline for Cragen. What if throughout the first several episodes we see that he has a girlfriend who he is crazy about and then at some point she gets raped. Cragen goes ballistic and we get to see him playing detective, trying to bring the guy to justice. He mgiht struggle with drinking again since it would be hard for him and he'd probably feel responsible, like he's a high up cop and yet he couldn't protect his girlfriend, he should have been there instead of at work all the time.

-I've said this before, but I'd like to see Olivia and Elliot collar someone for something, run their DNA, and then find that the person is a match for Olivia-another brother or sister, preferably sister. I think it would be great to see Olivia realize that she could have a ton of brothers and sisters out there she doesn't know about, since her dad raped women and didn't get caught. This person, just like Olivia, wouldn't even know who her dad was, just that her mom was raped. I thought it would be good if this girl was a teenage hooker or something with no family and Olivia tried to help her, but it could be any kind of girl or boy in any age.

I don't want to see Simon come back to be a creep or a rapist or anything. I want Olivia and Simon to bond more. He is all the family Liv has and he can answer a lot of unanswered questions about her father. We saw a little bit on the two episodes Simon was in with Liv, and then we saw Olivia not really want to talk to Simon in "Screwed" because he talked to Cragen and lied to him about the money she gave to him which forced Liv to go to IAB on her own at the end of the episode. I would like to see Simon try to get close to Olivia and for some reason Liv doesnt want to get close to him, like we saw in Screwed.

I would also like to see more of Alex, but am not sure if I want to see Casey Novak back again....maybe co-ADA with Alex, I'm not sure, but I didnt warm up to Casey as much as I did Alex.

I am not as sick of the Stabler drama as some people are, but I would like to see more with his other kids such as Dickie and Elizabeth who havent had a lot of appearances. I think having one of the kids have something happen to them and then turning to Olivia for help.

Why do people want Olivia to be shot and/or sexually assaulted again? She has been through enough, but I do think and would like to see her deal with what happened to a lot more than she has. We have seen her start therapy at the end of an episode, but that was it. We have heard her say she was assaulted a couple of times in a couple different episodes, but never talk about in detail what happened in the basement. I think it would do the fans a lot of good to see Olivia work through her trauma, it will give us some support more than she was able to give before she was assaulted herself.

I'm not sure if Olivia having a kid would be a good idea unless it was a teenager because that would mean a lot of time away from work if she was responsible for caring for a small baby. However, if Mariska does decide to take another hiatus if her and Peter want more kids, her having a baby taking away from her time at SVU, it might work into the story line, but then there would be the afterwards to consider....so I am not sure her having an infant would fly.

Olivia-I want her to have a serious boyfriend, nothing like the Kurt Moss thing. I also wouldn't mind (note:I'm not against her, I love her) if Liv got hurt, I mean Elliots been slashed across the chest, head hit, blinded, shot. I mean come on its time for her to get something, not trying to be mean but I'm tired of the guys always getting hurt. I also want to know what happened to Dean I mean come on, they would make a good couple.

Elliot-More of his family, see little Eli walking or something. No more Kathleen. Show Maureen engaged or getting married or something. Dickie whenever possible, we need to see their father son relationship. Elizabeth can also pop up from time to time. Maybe even see Elliot having Dinner with Kathy or something.

Munch-More screen time.

Fin-See him outside of the job with his friends and Ken.

Cragen-Want to see him happy.

Warner-More episodes, she didn't appear in Zebras at all. We need her in more episodes.

Haung-Nothing.

For me, and I think others have said this as well, it's not that I WANT Olivia to get hurt. I like the character and certainly don't want her to die or anything. But, it would make sense and be a good storyline. How many episodes has Elliot been hurt in? Several. He's been shot more than once, had his head shoved through a car window, been temporarily blinded, been in a cabin that exploded, knocked out, possibly exposed to HIV, etc. Other than the sexual assault, Olivia hasn't been hurt much (at least that I recall, I'm certainly not an SVU expert). It's her turn. The reason I suggested sexual assault is only because I wasn't satisfied with the way the Seal View incident played out. I've been waiting for Elliot's reaction. Every time Elliot was hurt, we saw Olivia try to help him, whether it be fighting Casey on using him in a trial when he was blinded or just being there at the hospital. I thought that if it came close to happening again and Elliot showed up, it would give us an opening to see his reaction, see him help her through it, and let her deal with something she hasn't really dealt with. Just as Elliot is usually the one to get hurt, Olivia has been stalked or something similar a couple of times and Elliot never has. There was Richard White, that doctor who went to speed dating and then "stalked" and raped women he met, and the guy in Wrath who fixated on her and tried to hurt people she had helped. I can't remember any similar storylines for Elliot. It would be interesting to see something like that, maybe someone who Elliot had wrongly convicted that starts stalking him and threatening his family. The point is, both detectives work similar (and often the same) cases, work similar hours, etc and it only makes sense that if something keeps happening to one of them (i.e. Elliot getting hurt), that it would happen to the other as well. Why is Elliot so much more likely to get hurt, when they're taking the same risks and doing the same job?

All of the bold I want! The more Elliot's kids thing...not so much. His family crap has been beaten into the ground so much I want to scream...But…let’s not go there.

Olivia getting shot thing is so what I want to, in a weird and twisted way. The reason fans want to see her character go through being shot is because of the drama that would come from it. Her working out her issues about her sexual assault has been there and done that. She had season 10 for that. We saw her go to therapy and we heard her talk about it to a few other's, minus Elliot of course. God forbid show them actually getting close. What a sin...I think if brought up too much, it would turn people off. Remember, this is a show made to entertain. At least that's what we are led to believe....

Elliot has gotten shot more then once, been thrown through a window, almost gotten blown up, been cut to hell, hit over the head, beaten the crap out of. Yes, Olivia got sexually assaulted but can we get a little blood? She's gotten cut on the arm and neck but woop-dee-doo. Being punched in the face doesn't count because all of the guys have gotten hit at least once and it's not life threatening, at least not the way the guys have been hit. Yes, she did get into a car accident but she miraculously gets up and poof...no head trauma, though she was knocked out for a few seconds...But Kathy got the spot light???That pretty much blowed. Olivia being shown shot would be drama worth selling as sick and twisted as that sounds…

I would love to see more of what Don's life is like outside of the precinct. That would be new. All we know about him is that he goes to AA meetings and used to be married before his wife died. John, though we have heard about his life, has never been seen outside of the work setting. Yes, we did get one out of three wives to stop by in season 10 but big deal. I would like to know more about him at home.

Hearing about what Alex has been up to won't be so bad either. We know nothing about her after she went back into protective custody. What did she do, where did she go and is she with anyone?

First and foremost...I want the writing to be back ON PAR...ala Seasons 1-6/7. I want someone to do the legal research, the show's CANON research...and start 'crossing the t's, and dotting the i's."

I want Elliot and Olivia to be back to being a team...communicating....no more inuendos that we are supposed to take mean 'one thing, or another.' Enough of the bullcrap. I want deep, emotional situations for them to deal with TOGETHER...instead of 'this being Mariska's Emmy Submission tape' and 'that being Chris's.' I swear, once the writing dept. started doing that...is when things started rolling downhill.

I have said it before, and I'll say it again...in order to give CM something really meaty to perform...they are going to have to seriously injure or kill off one of Elliot's kids/wife. It feels horrible to say that...but really, THAT would give Chris something to chew on..and on...and on.
Yes, I'm tired of the Stabler family 'drama' as it has been written....everything turns out just hunkey dorey in the end. When on earth did the L&O francise get so *soft!* The Original series has not had a problem killing people off over the years. MAKE us feel Stabler's pain. Let him get 'numb.' FOr the "love of all things Holy" (thanks Munch!)
GIVE Chris something to **DO** other than get shot/stabbed, take off his shirt (though, that's nice!) and make those quizzical faces he does.

Olivia. Good grief...just let us know she has a life. Give this character some dimension. I LOVE Olivia...I really do...but when I compare the character to the other lead female cops in t.v today (The Closer, In Plain Sight, even LOCI)... she is just paper thin. Olivia has been treading water for too long. No one could be as isolated a person as she is, and do the work she does all these years...without cracking up. Or maybe, that's it, she just NEEDS to CRACK UP. The writers seriously dropped the ball on her, and with Mariska's acting chops, I don't understand why.

I still think the series need to start looking at the 'big picture', and plan the exits of several of the characters.
Figure out where they are ultimately going with them...and find reasonable, plausible, story and timelines to get them there.

As far as the perps go...oh yeah...I want to see Richard White back. I'd also love to see them re-vamp the Dean Cain character (can't remember his name)...in a sort of 'Drew Peterson' kind of way (how many of your wives can end up dead before someone connects you to them?)
Of course, they left the door WIDE WIDE open for Merrit Rook in a stupid way...it will look even more foolish of them if they DON'T finish that story.
I agree about Amy Solway needing another stint. I always wondered if she got the transplant or not.

And, I want some kind of 'reversal' of "Fault." Elliot blamed himself for putting his partner before the endangered child. He felt guilty because she 'didn't need him.'
What if, in a similar situation, Elliot went for the child instead...and by the time he got help for his partner...it was too late....she HAD needed him (and for a twist, it could be discovered later that the child was never really in any danger, only used as a "Lure" by the perp...."Lure" makes a nice title, don't you think? )

want better storylines. I would like to see genuine sex crimes. This "Oh it looked like a sex crime but is really this" is getting old. Once in a while is okay but it happens more often then not. Please no more like Harm or Retro.

More stories that involve child actors, IMO some of the best episodes involved children.

You know I love her, but I to want Olivia shot or seriously (but not critically) hurt. Elliot needs a break.

The only other Stabler (besides Elliot) I would like to see is Bernie, all thought I know it won't happen, but if there is more Stablers lets see Elizabeth. No more Kathleen, we need a break.

I would like to see Simon but only briefly, not a whole episode dedicated to him, same with Ken. I want Simon portrayed as a decent guy I think turning him into a rapist is too predictable and just creates unwanted personal drama.

More powerful (yet realistic) courtroom scenes. If Alex is there I want her to go at it like she used to. UI would like to see a male ASA.

I miss angry Elliot. I miss Huang

Olivia to have a serious, mostly drama free relationship, we don't have to focus on it but it can be there. If Mariska gets pregnant again, I want them to write it in.

Here’s hoping!!

Those are good episodes. I think most of us want Olivia to be hurt. Something is wrong with us, LOL.

Yes, Exactly! I imagine most of us want the same thing!



Ditto.



I would want Kathy to be the victim. It would be a potentially good performance for Chris. Plus, I don't like the woman to be quite honest.




Her life is the job and that's not very fun to watch sometimes. It's depressing. Give her a boyfriend or something, for goodness sakes!



Are you suggesting that Olivia die or be seriously injured?


Also, I agree with whoever said Olivia needs to be shot. It's her turn. I understand that she has been through a lot, but this needs to happen. Thanks.

[quote name='Paris_02' date='Jun 18 2009, 05:25 PM' post='1140260']

Are you suggesting that Olivia die or be seriously injured?


Well...either would have a huge impact, so I'm not going to be picky ....though if they killed her, I'd probably need therapy to recover!! Not enough Kleenex in my house to watch that!!

If they just maimed her, put her in a coma for awhile...it would give Mariska some additional 'down time' that she's supposedly asked for this season. And , as Olivia regains her health, gives the character a way 'out' of the unit, without the need for a funeral.
I think I like this idea better!

I want to see that kid from "Prodigy" come back and be a serial rapist/killer or something. He wasn't the guilty one in that episode... but it would be interesting to see the squad deal with that. They saw it coming and were unable to stop it.

I want to see...

Better writing.

Harris released and Olivia dealing with that.

More sex crimes.... not episodes that start off as what looks to be a sex crime... but it turns into an episode about anthrax.

More EO moments. Not even romantic, at least friendship jeez.

More shirtless Elliot.

No more corny beginnings. Get rid of the horrible actors. Where do they get these people?

Fin or Munch snap.

Kathleen deported.

No more awesome "guest stars." I've noticed that when they make such a big deal about guest stars... they usually blow the episode. Authority is a good example. More focus on the storyline, not the stars.

Mourning for Ryan. If they don't address that I will be upset. They don't have to show a funeral or anything, but c'mon!... at least show somethin!

[quote name='RJ87' date='Jun 18 2009, 10:34 AM' post='1140146']
Other than the sexual assault, Olivia hasn't been hurt much

I am not trying to start trouble or pick a fight, but this statement you made got under my skin. Yes, getting exposed to HIV, getting your head put through a window, being partially blind for a brief period of time, getting shot, and all the other things you mentioned that have happened to Elliot are things that are good storylines as well as things one might refer to as "traumatic", but to be sexually assaulted is not having "that much" happen to you, it takes a part of you away from you that you can never get back. Elliot's sight came back, he recovered from his gunshot wounds and getting blown up in that warehouse with Star, he even recovered from his almost divorce with Kathy and he got his family back. When someone is sexually assaulted, even when the physical scars heal, the emotional trauma that has been inflicted onto a person, something that gets to their heart and their soul, it can never be put back; those things are gone from that person, and from Liv one thing that was taken away from her was her innocence. I am not trying to minimize anything physical that happened to Elliot because physical trauma can also induce PTSD as seen in war veterans, but to be sexually assaulted, even ONCE,can scar a person for life as well as take things away from them that they will never be able to get back. It's a deeper level of trauma than that of a physical attack, so to say that Olivia hasnt been hurt much because she has only been sexually assaulted really is undermining what she went through. She went through a lot and in a way she has been through more than Elliot.

I do NOT want to see Olivia assaulted again, EVER. Elliot can be there for her in some other way, although I need to point out Elliot has been there for Olivia in other ways such as being there for her on every case that has been tough for her if it brought up things about her mother such as the episode I am watching now where the half Asian/half black man has been raping and attacking Asian women and all throughout the episode Liv had to deal with the whole genes thing, violence being passed through genetics, as well as having women saying that when they were raped and got pregnant they couldnt deal with living with a constant reminder of what had happened to them. Elliot was there for Olivia as he has been in the past when he told John off for unknowingly making a comment that upset Olivia, in fact he did that twice. The two of them have been there for each other on different occasions. Elliot got Liv a protective detail when she was being stalked by Plumber, as well as he drove to her apartment to pick her up when she was being stalked by Richard White. He had her back when Simon went crazy and was about to kill Captain Millfield and was essentially holding Olivia hostage, and he was also there for her when he refused to give in to Robin Williams character who claimed he was shocking Olivia when he wasnt doing any such thing. And he let that little boy down to save her life because her throat was cut and he thought she might die. He's been there for her, and I am sure there are many more examples of that, and there are also many more examples of ways Elliot can be there for Olivia in the next season. But to have Olivia be sexually assaulted again is NOT something I want to see happen to her EVER again, it is too much for her and too much for the character to take on. Mariska is so much Olivia Benson that it's not just mere acting to experience something like she did at Sealview.....she felt it....every part of it and I am sure it stayed with Mariska afterwards, so, no, I do not want to see Olivia attaacked again, there are more levels and more elements to something like that than meets the eye.

The Original series has not had a problem killing people off over the years.

Right, but SVU is entirely different from L&O. The cases are different and they are more involved and deal with a much bigger issue than just murder and tax scams as we see so much of on L&O. SVU is all about sex crimes and those run deeper than the issues dealt with on all the other cop shows including but not being limited to L&O. People get attached to the detectives on SVU and also SVU deals with cases that draw in a certain type of fan; fans who have been raped or abused themselves find solace in these episodes, they find support through the storylines as well as they can connect in ways that others may not be able to. You don't get that on L&O. I have been watching the original for years and have only gotten attached to Jack McCoy and I think it's because he has been the only character that hasnt been killed off or left. There have been so many change of detectives and ADA's and DA's on that show it has made my head spin. But with SVU Elliot, Olivia, Munch and Don have been staple and the only ones we have seen leave have been Cassidy, Jeffries, Alex and Casey. But for the most part for the last 7 or so years those detectives have been it and we have grown attached to them and I know for a lot of fans who have been raped or abused Olivia gives them a sense of comfort and support as well as the strength to get the help they may not have felt safe to get before they started watching SVU. So this show is more than just entertainment and it is not a show that can easily "kill off" people, and I think Neal Baer and the writers and other producers are well aware of the fan pool they have watching the show and also what the show has done in terms of reaching out to people and affecting thier lives a lot more than I bet the creators of SVU ever imagined. This is not like L&O, they are playing on a whole different level from that show and they have to play by different rules.

Great minds think alike. I like these:


You mean Elliot's MY baby? Now, Ryan is gone, I'll take Elliot back!





Dean's character name was Mike Jergens. Wasn't he great in that episode?




I keep watching him in "Rage". My favorite angry Elliot.

First off, let me say that I'm really sorry what I said bothered you. I'm not sure if anything like that has ever happened to you (and I'm not asking, it's none of my business), but I DO know that sexual assault is a big deal and a very terrible thing. While I have not been assaulted, I have a good friend who has. I never meant to imply that it is not "that much," or not a big deal, or not a terrible thing. I cannot imagine how I would feel if it did happen to me and hope to never find out. What I meant by "not that much," is solely quantity, the number of times...meaning Olivia has not been hurt/attacked nearly as many times as Elliot has. I did not mean to imply that the degree to which she was attacked was not important. It is. And, in that regard, Olivia has probably suffered more than Elliot. I'm sorry I didn't make what I meant clear, and am very sorry that it upset you.

Now, to try to explain my thinking. Many people have suggested that Olivia get hurt somehow or shot. Many people have commented that Elliot gets hurt all the time and it's her turn (maybe not in those exact words, but that's the gist). I tend to agree with these people, that it's her turn. Again, I don't mean that the sexual assault wasn't terrible or that she didn't suffer more than anyone should have to. Just that solely going off the number of times Elliot has been hurt, it's time Olivia gets hurt on the job/it's her "turn." The only reason I suggested that if she was going to be hurt, if it was her turn, she should come close to being sexually assaulted again is because I want the scenes with Elliot helping Olivia deal with her rape, and I want to see Olivia begin to heal. I didn't feel that we got that after she was attacked at Seal View. They showed her suffering, they showed her having PTSD, they showed her go to therapy (which didn't seem to help her much). But, they never showed her come to the realization that it wasn't her fault. They never showed Elliot make any effort to help his partner, who has always been there for him when he's been hurt. I cannot begin to understand how difficult it would be for Olivia to heal, but I WANT her to heal. I know that sexual assault stays with a person for life, but I think you can heal in certain ways. And, I was thinking she'd get cornered by the perp, he'd threaten her, say what he wanted to do to her, maybe strike her hard or tear her shirt or something and that would be it. It would be horrible for her and bring back bad memories, but then Elliot would show up and save her before anything bad happened. It wouldn't be exactly like Seal View. It wouldn't go that far. Of course, it would effect her negatively, but if it led to Elliot helping her heal in the long run, it wouldn't be a bad storyline. I would never, ever want anyone (even my worst enemy lol) to be sexually assaulted in real life. The only reason I felt like it was OK to suggest this for Olivia is because she is a fictional character on a TV show that frequently deals with rape. I feel awful for anyone who has been sexually assaulted. I think it is one of the worst things that can happen. Again, I am very sorry that I was not clear and that I upset you. I hope you can accept my apology. I hope what I just wrote does not bother you. I am not trying to bother you or offend anyone.

Okay… here are some of mine:

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-I want to hear Capt. Cragen and his squad mention Ryan O'Halloran, at least. Just one LAST time.

-Olivia Benson gets shot (by White, Harris, or Rook). If the writers include the kidnap of Olivia, is fine by me.

-More episodes about abused children (I'm getting tired already of the writers' 'mental-illness' people).

-I want to see Elliot play around the playground park with little Eli, just like he and Maureen were together at the beach.

-More on Munch and Fin episodes.

-Taru Morales chases the same perp who kidnapped and molested his sister's son (from Web). Boy, does he give a big punch. I'd love to see him beat his nephew's real kidnapper.

-I was going to say 'Ryan-gets-married-to-a-female-csu tech', if only the writers hadn't killed him off. Oh well.

-Fin and Ken, a father and son bonding time.

-Det. Jeffries/Det. Cassidy's surprised visit.

-Elliot and Olivia talk about their partnership and friendship.

-Dean Porter takes Olivia Benson to a fancy restaurant, and asks her to be his wife.

-More Elliot and Kathy screen time.

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Oh, I didn't notice Dean Cain's character the only bad guy in my banner.

That is the best one yet! You ar a genius!

Neal Baer already confirmed that Dean Porter isn't coming back for any apperances so...let's see if we can find a new man for Liv to take advantage of For the love of all things holy, can the guy be hot?! She always gets stuck kissing some fugly guys. What about McDreamy! He's hot as hell!

Okay...I want to throw my twocents (I think that's how it's spelt) in and state that seeing Olivia sexually assulted was enough for a lifetime and I never want to see that happen to anyone, guest star or character, again. Seeing it once was hard enough. Being sexually assulted is something that controls your life, no matter how much therapy or how many people you talk to or how many demons you fight. You walk around with the mental scars and do your best to live a full life, even though the black cloud tends to follow. Yes, this is TV and it's not reality but a lot of this show is real for a lot of viewers simply because it speaks to them and helps the healing process. I think Liv being assulted once was enough and we have seen how much it effected her. I think the storyline has been played and needs to be moved on from. Some think that by Olivia not saying anything about it or it not being on the show means she got over it too fast but the truth is that she is carrying it with her and it shows itself every time she locks up a perp or gets too involved in a case. She might not bring it up but it's there.

Am glad someone agrees with me about Olivia. I didnt mean to start anything between member of this board, but I think a lot of reasoning behind why people wanted to see Liv sexually assualted again is because they DO think it's only TV and she is just a character played by Mariska Hargitay and none of it is real. Well,...you're right, it's not real per se, it is fictional drama, but the type of show SVU is makes it more reality then I think people realize. Yes, Mariska is the actress that plays Olivia, but this show has follwed the life of this detective for the past 10 years and I think we can all agree Olivia's dimensions have certainly changed from season 1 to season 10, and I have heard Mariska say in interviews that Olivia Benson is a part of her that is hard to turn off. She IS Olivia Benson, and for Mariska to be handcuffed to a door handle and almost forced to give oral sex to a perp, it probably wasnt a take that happened in one shot, I am sure that scene took a lot of work as well as a lot out of the actors. And we see Olivia still dealing with the aftermath of her attack. We have seen some scenes in episodes throughout the years of people being attacked, but I think by far Olivia's was the most graphic, I mean....that corrections officer grabbed her butt, her breasts and it was shown in full view for everyone, we have never seen that before, of a victim being touched or violated, but in Olivia's scenes when she is in the prison we see those things. It wasn't a scene like any other, I am sure it took a lot out of Mariska and her character and I am sure it was not an easy thing to cope with for the actor or her character. So to say Olivia should get assualted again really does bother me and upset me because from what I have read of how fans want the scene to play out; having her get cornered by a perp, have her shirt ripped and have the perp just about to do something when Elliot walks in to save the day, what I think people are not getting is that Olivia's character has already been assaulted, so to have another assault on her would paralyze her, the same way she was paralyzed when Stuckey made her drop her gun and her partner couldnt help her, no one else knew where she was, so it was her, a helpless partner, and an armed mad serial killer. I didnt catch any of that the first time I saw the episode until someone on here pointed out that her reaction and her face were that of a paralyzed assault victim and she was going through some serious PTSD symptoms of being powerless and out of control as she was in Sealview.....it was all coming back to her. So to have Olivia assaulted again wouldnt go over as some fans think it would...she wouldnt be able to fight back....there is a good chance she would be completely paralyzed and helpless because of the flashbacks she would of encountered and dealing with the PTSD on top of it all. I think the fans need to see more of Olivia working through the trauma because now Olivia can connect with her fans on an even deeper level....she's been there....been through what her fans have been through, and she is even more of a beacon of hope to them now that she has been assaulted herself....fans can relate to Olivia in an even deeper way than they could before because now Olivia is one of them, and not just an empathetic, gentle, loving and caring support system....she is now one of them in the fullest sense of the word and I think it would do fans a lot of good to see Olivia working through the trauma the same way she tells victims to.

So that is a continuation of my two cents on this issue. Again, I didnt mean to start a huge debate, but there is a lot more to a character like Olivia Benson getting sexually assaulted again than meets the eye because this show is more "real" than other shows out there.

Wait...when did Neal say that Vincent Spano isn't coming back? I believe he said that last year but not this year. Besides, it's still too early to confirm that! They are in the process of writing scripts so who knows. I'm not giving up hope on Dean-Olivia!

McDreamy as in Patrick Dempsey? Nah. Besides, he's under contract on ABC and networks like that frown upon their actors going to their competition. It's rare when that sort of thing happens.

McDreamy? You mean this one?



Neal Baer replied to me 5-6 times. I am sure he'll be glad to answer me when I ask him that. MickBetancourt, writer of Wildlife, follows me and we send messages once in a while. He often replies to me on Twitter. There are so many fans who want Neal or Mick to follow them, but I got lucky. I'll let you know when he replies. They just pop up on my Twitter, post their updates, and then gone, lol

Well, then SweetDahlia...find a way to get them to read this thread! They need to get a pulse on what the fans are really thinking. Obviously, what they decide to do with it is out of our hands...but really...since you've got them Tweeting with you...do what you can! Please!

Neal announced it on his Twitter page. I believe someone asked him a question about Dean coming back and Neal announced that his character will not be returning. I think Dean and Olivia would be a great couple to but it's not going to happen...sorry.


Then maybe someone rustic but good looking...As long as the guy is hot and lasts longer then 3 minutes I'm good.

I would like to see Munch's brother, Bernie, who owns the funeral home. It would be a perfect-sense visit, working together somewhat.

As I mentioned earlier in Off-topic thread, I’d like to see Kate Jackson or Jaclyn Smith in one of the of the episodes where she could perform as the suspect’s (or victim’s) mother.

Kate Jackson is also battling cancer, but I would love to see her too...she was my favorite Angel...

Yeah. I think she has breast cancer right?

I would love to see someone like Ryan Reynolds playing a bad guy.

I didn't know she was sick.

This will shock everyone in the squad as Olivia reveals that she and Ryan O'Halloran had seeing each other secretly and she's pregnant with his child. Now, that's a twist!

That would be cool but she barely even looked like she noticed him with a knife sticking out of his chest, let alone having a love affair. I was ticked by that...

I want to see some more crossover episodes between CI and/or the mothership. I think it'd be cool to see Goren/Eames work alongside Benson/Stabler. I miss back in the day (season 1, I think, along with the episode, "Night"), where we'd see detectives from the mothership. I know all 3 shows have their own thing going on now, but that would be nice to see em all working together on some big case.

I know, I want to see that too!

I would love to see another Cragen episode or Fin episode.

I would also love to see reappearances of Ken, Dr. Hendrix, the Defense attorneys we love to hate, and Liv's brother, Simon. No more Kathleen, she appeared too many times last season.

I would love to see Olivia adopting a child so she can finally have someone to love on her own and have a family she so desprately wants.

I want to see more Cabot.

And just basically more drama between Elliot and Olivia's relationship.

Okay this one is kinda for A/O shippers I guess if they want to see it that way. But I was thinking since Olivia and Alex are both now victims of a crime, they could open up and talk to each other about them. Alex doesnt know about Olivia's assault...it would be a great bonding session for the two of them.

One note concerning Munch ex-wife Gwen:

Longtime viewers of Homicide: Life On The Streets first saw her there when Belzer (who originated Munch on H:LOTS before moving to "SVU" when "H:LOTS" was cancelled in 1999). Gwen actually slept with the late Lennie Briscoe (of course played by the late Jerry Orbach) with Lennie not knowing Munch or her being married to him at the time (this was mentioned in "For God and Country", the "H:LOTS" half of the first of the three crossovers between the original "L & O" and "H:LOTS").

As for season 11, I think it's time to have Alex C. and Olivia become a couple, and in fact, I would have actually gone that route because it would give a realistic explanation as to why Alex C. did not stay in touch with Elliot, Olivia and everyone else, because she was "faking it" after she came out of Witness Protection (and although the unpopular view, incorporating what was seen of Alex C. on Conviction three years ago, noting she was engaged but broke that off), realizing Olivia was and has been her true love and her coming over one night to Olivia's apartment and pouring out her emotions to Olivia.

I, honestly am an EO shipper, but I don't think the writers are going to have Olivia get together with anyone from the precinct. That would mean they were favoring one type of shipper and they are smart enough to realize that if they choose EO, AO, or even OD that they will lose some viewers that were a different type of shipper. I think they'll just let us choose what we like and enjoy ourselves, believing what we want to. I guess we'll all just have to stick with fan fics.

I recently started watching Nurse Jackie on Showtime and I would absolutely love to see Edie Falco on SVU. She is amazing! On the plus side, Meloni has already worked with Falco (from OZ). Totally a win-win. Yes, yes?

Edie Falco actually has an established "franchise" character of defense attorney Sally Bell that she played before she gained her fame on The Sopranos (from 1999-2007), though all of her appearences on the mothership pre-date "SVU." Her first was way back in season three (early 1993) in the episode "Mother Love," then playing the character two other times: In season five's "Scoundrels" (fall 1994), where it was established that she was a former assistant of now-DA Jack McCoy (Sam Waterston on the mothership) and one episode in season seven.

It would be very interesting to see her reprise Sally Bell at some point in "the franchise."

I would like to see Taru Morales more on this season. He’s the only tech we have left now.