Since this was our first death of a regular recurring cast member of the show who we all loved, I thought it would be nice and appropriate to have a 'memorial' service of sorts to talk about Ryan, his episodes and how cute he was.
One thing for sure, next season will be really strange without Ryan popping up on occasion. For the past five years I have gotten very used to his appearances.
Full Version: RIP Ryan O'Halloran
A real Irish wake with Irish whiskey for those are old enough?
I miss him, he was the best Forensic dude that I knew, next to Warner. He was beautiful single and an awesome dude. He will be missed. SVU won't be the same without him.
*sigh* and he was looking good in the is ep too, i think its safe to say that we will all miss him, i need to update and probably finish 'Art of Concealment' because of this.
Poor O'hallaran!
I was screaming and jumping up in my chair, it was so intense! Phew, man, and all in about what, 6-7 mins??
Poor O'hallaran!
I was screaming and jumping up in my chair, it was so intense! Phew, man, and all in about what, 6-7 mins??
Wow, this really made me sad. I loved seeing him in episode and now that won't happen...that just makes me sad. I feel really bad for Blazer!!
Where is Blazer??? She has been quiet with this.
I really liked him, I always thought he would have made a good regular cast member. I wish we could have at least seen a 1 minute view of a department funeral for him.
He will be missed.
I really liked him, I always thought he would have made a good regular cast member. I wish we could have at least seen a 1 minute view of a department funeral for him.
He will be missed.
QUOTE (QueenOlivia @ Jun 3 2009, 07:29 PM) 
Where is Blazer??? She has been quiet with this.
I really liked him, I always thought he would have made a good regular cast member. I wish we could have at least seen a 1 minute view of a department funeral for him.
He will be missed.
I really liked him, I always thought he would have made a good regular cast member. I wish we could have at least seen a 1 minute view of a department funeral for him.
He will be missed.
I have to agree, where is Blazer? perhaps shes still in mourning... isnt there a religion where you take so many days of silence after a loved ones death? I think so, perhaps, thats what is taking place as we speak.
QUOTE (QueenOlivia @ Jun 3 2009, 08:29 PM)
Where is Blazer??? She has been quiet with this.
I really liked him, I always thought he would have made a good regular cast member. I wish we could have at least seen a 1 minute view of a department funeral for him.
He will be missed.
I really liked him, I always thought he would have made a good regular cast member. I wish we could have at least seen a 1 minute view of a department funeral for him.
He will be missed.
That would be interesting. I'm wondering how Season 11 would open- with Ryan's funeral a few days later? Or just the aftermath, few months later? I do remember when the death came to light that it would go into the new season.
For a recurring character he has left a big hole- he had a connection with Cragen, the detectives, Warner...I don't remember him with Haung or Kim but he did have some scenes with Casey here and there and I think he came on to the show after Alex left but he did recently had some scenes with her, like Lead.
Ryan's only been on five seasons (season 5)...it's going to be weird now that I was so used to him popping up here and there. It's going to be hard watching his episodes too, knowing how he will meet his maker.
Not sure about Blazer, I know she was worrying about if he was going to die and now it came true. She must be really heartbroken.
Thanks to ITPROF4U for this picture!
Ryan O'Halloran,
Rest in peace. You're in good hands now. You will be missed! We'll never forget you!
Ryan O'Halloran,
Rest in peace. You're in good hands now. You will be missed! We'll never forget you!
I'm going to miss his beautiful eyes and sexy smile I LOVE YOU RYAN!!!!
The banner was made by luv4svu!
I LOVE YOU RYAN!!!!The banner was made by luv4svu!
QUOTE (Hisgirlforevermore @ Jun 3 2009, 03:33 PM)
A real Irish wake with Irish whiskey for those are old enough?
I am old enough and I would love to toast to one of my beloved cast members...Cheers Ryan...you will be missed....
(Other Irish wake traditions are to be burried from the house and to have a black wreath on the front door...)
I'm going to miss Ryan a lot. The season finale better not be the last time that his name is mentioned. Was it just me, or were Elliot and Olivia acting like Ryan was just some stranger or random victim... I know Olivia's face showed shock when she first saw him dead on the floor, but at the very end of the episode... Elliot and Olivia were just looking down at him and Dale. No tears. Nothin. How long has Ryan been there? A long time. You would think they would be a tad more emotional... I dunno... maybe it's because they were just relieved that they were both safe. I don't feel like Elliot's last line ("what a way to end") was appropriate. It showed no sympathy for Ryan. I might be the only one who feels that way though. I'll miss him and I hope they show how his death affects the squad in the near future. It would be tragic if his death was never brought up again. He's done so much for the squad.
I definitely miss Ryan!! he was one of my favorite techs and I also hope that the squad mentions him next season and mourn him. I wish Dale had died instead of Ryan...I swear I thought Donnelly was going to die I was very surprised that it was Ryan.
I will miss Ryan he was my favorite lab tech I wish they hadn't of killed him off they should have killed Stuckey instead
QUOTE (Kamara @ Jun 4 2009, 10:15 PM)
I'm going to miss Ryan a lot. The season finale better not be the last time that his name is mentioned. Was it just me, or were Elliot and Olivia acting like Ryan was just some stranger or random victim... I know Olivia's face showed shock when she first saw him dead on the floor, but at the very end of the episode... Elliot and Olivia were just looking down at him and Dale. No tears. Nothin. How long has Ryan been there? A long time. You would think they would be a tad more emotional... I dunno... maybe it's because they were just relieved that they were both safe. I don't feel like Elliot's last line ("what a way to end") was appropriate. It showed no sympathy for Ryan. I might be the only one who feels that way though. I'll miss him and I hope they show how his death affects the squad in the near future. It would be tragic if his death was never brought up again. He's done so much for the squad.
Elliot didn't really had time to react, he saw Ryan's legs but before he had the chance to look at the face he was knocked out until he came to. I think his focus (as well as Olivia's) was to survive Dale.
I certainly do hope that Ryan's death would be mentioned in the next season, however I think it'll just be one episode then SVU life moves on. Ryan did touch practically everyone- Cragen, the detectives, especially worked with Warner a lot, I'm sure ADAs will shed a few tears too (particuarly Alex and Casey; I don't ever recall Ryan sharing a scene with Kim).
QUOTE (SVUlovesME @ Jun 6 2009, 02:52 PM)
Elliot didn't really had time to react, he saw Ryan's legs but before he had the chance to look at the face he was knocked out until he came to. I think his focus (as well as Olivia's) was to survive Dale.
I certainly do hope that Ryan's death would be mentioned in the next season, however I think it'll just be one episode then SVU life moves on. Ryan did touch practically everyone- Cragen, the detectives, especially worked with Warner a lot, I'm sure ADAs will shed a few tears too (particuarly Alex and Casey; I don't ever recall Ryan sharing a scene with Kim).
I certainly do hope that Ryan's death would be mentioned in the next season, however I think it'll just be one episode then SVU life moves on. Ryan did touch practically everyone- Cragen, the detectives, especially worked with Warner a lot, I'm sure ADAs will shed a few tears too (particuarly Alex and Casey; I don't ever recall Ryan sharing a scene with Kim).
I agree with everyting. To answer your earlier post, I hope they will at least start with a few days after his death and then maybe jump ahead, but i doubt it.
RIP Ryan. I (we) will miss you. Some of you may have seen this article Mike Doyle gave just before the airing of the Season finale.
He talks about his character's demise, the SVU cast (he and Mariska are close friends), his future plans & projects and a tidbit about Mariska & Chris signing for Season 11. (Does he know something we don't?!) Thanks to SpyBarbie at svufans.net
http://www.tvguidemagazine.com/news/ohallo...n-svu-1303.html
Law & Order: SVU executive producer Neal Baer told TV Guide Magazine back in February that “one of the SVU family” would die in the shows tenth season finale. Rumors flew that it was Munch (Richard Belzer) on his way out. However, the unlucky victim turns out to be forensics guy Ryan O’Halloran (Mike Doyle), who took a knife in the chest to earn his own chalk outline. TV Guide Magazine talked to the actor a few hours before his final SVU appearance.
When did you find out that you were slated to be killed?
Neal Baer gave me a call in the middle of April, a couple of weeks before we started shooting the finale. He assured me that it had nothing to do with me personally or my ability as an actor, but they were making some changes on the show next year. Neal wanted someone to die in the end and rather than peter my character out, he wanted to give him a proper send-off with a bang. Or a—what’s the sound of a knife? A shhh.
You were shanked. A term you might know from your days on Oz.
It was my first time being shanked, but I’ve been killed in many things that I’ve done over the years.. I was electrocuted on Oz, shot and blown up on a show called Smith. In a TV movie called The Loss of Innocence, I was shot on a deer hunt, mistaken for a deer by Rob Estes, who was sleeping with my wife, Jennie Garth. This is like the seventh time I’ve died in a decade. I’m starting to get a complex.
Were you a budget victim?
There wasn’t any indication that it had anything to do with budgetary considerations or the economy. I’ve been on the show for six years and my understanding is that they’re going to introduce some new faces next year.
You were killed by one of your own. The creepy forensics wannabe Dale Stuckey. That’s cold.
Yes. I think people were either rooting for him to be killed or to be the killer. (laughs) Noel Fisher is a really incredible actor and he accomplishes that thing that good actors do. He makes people hate him.
He was pretty creepy in Life recently.
He’s a great guy. It was kind of funny because I was his mentor in the forensics lab. So when we were shooting the final episode, I was like, “You son of a b----! You gonna die!!’ He’s like, ‘Dude, I’m sorry… I didn’t mean it.’”
We should have known. His character was such a screw-up.
Yeah, there was definitely a mark on Stucky. He messed up cases and in the finale, ultimately he tried to correct an error by going on a homicidal rampage to blame it on a real serial killer. Not necessarily the best means to an end.
What do we know about O’Halloran after all these years?
There was one little glimpse several seasons ago that I was on a date that Benson called me out of and I wasn’t too pleased. They costumed me with a snazzy wardrobe. So I was like, “ Ok, that’s good.” I was kind of the go-to guy who was confined to the lab or the crime scene, always solving the crime, I might add. But never getting the glory. Out of 53 episodes, I solved about half the crimes! My poor hands have never actually been shown on television. Except for maybe two episodes, they were always in latex gloves. I was very, very good at my job.
What was the most fun about being part of the SVU ensemble?
The most fun was working on a cop show in New York City. I couldn’t ask for a better place to work and a better show to work on in New York. From the top on down. That’s what’s made going to work a joy and the prospect of not returning all the harder because I forged some very, very tight bonds on the show.
Who did you get close to on the show?
Mariska and I are very close friends.
What can you say about Chris and Mariska’s probably signing on to another season?
I’m excited for her. I think the eleventh season is going to be really interesting for their characters. I’m just happy that they’re coming back and have come to an agreement.
Did the rest of the cast think the show could really work without Mariska and Chris?
I think everybody was hopeful that it could. Fortunately, it looks like they don’t have to test that out because they are coming back.
Did you keep your death a secret?
I did from a lot of people. I only told the friends who were with me when I got the call.. Their first response was “Not again!” But six seasons on anything is really a blessing for an actor.
You’ve appeared on lots of shows, but would you agree that Oz got you a bit of notoriety?
Yes, I was a pretty unsavory character on Oz. That was a brutal trajectory that Tom Fontana had me on, from being sold to the Aryans to being gang raped by the gang to being their bitch to being electrocuted on a fence.
Well, you were so mean to that nice Tobias Beecher. Weren’t you?
I was a rapist, c’mon! I was a bad guy! When I got on the show, I said to my mom, “You might want to watch a couple episodes before I come on.” She watched one, and said “Oh, Michael, I don’t think I can watch this.” And by the end of the season, she was, “What’s going to happen to Beecher and Keller?”
What other roles are you most proud of?
I met SVU’s executive producer Neal Baer on ER about 10 years ago when I did an episode. He wrote a scene about a schizophrenic law student who attacks his car because he hears voices that tell him to attack his wife, who was played by Jessica Capshaw. Neal wrote this really beautiful part and little did I know that I would work for Neal on his other show, which was really fantastic. It’s nice when you feel watched out for.
You’re described frequently as a producer, director and writer as well as an actor. True?
Yeah, I produced , wrote and directed a short film that premiered at the Tribeca Film Festival in 2006 called Shiner. It starred Amy Ryan, a good friend of mine, who was nominated for an Oscar for Gone, Baby Gone and George Morfogen from Oz. I’m developing a feature right now in addition to my day job as an actor.
What’s next in your day job?
I am so fortunate that as we were shooting the finale, trying hard not to get too sad about leaving the show, I got cast in the new Nicole Kidman movie, Rabbit Hole. It’s based on a play but they’ve opened up the story and there are a bunch of supporting characters. Aaron Eckhart is in it. John Cameron Mitchell is directing. Rabbit Hole is about a couple who loses their child in front of their home, and my wife (Ali Marsh) and I and our child are trying to buy that house, which kind of brings up all of what happened.
Lots of luck. Sorry about the knife to the chest.
You know, it’s good to have the opportunity to not stay in one place too long. That’s what great about an actor’s life. You come back to life in great and unexpected ways. I’m grateful for the time I had on SVU and I’m also grateful for coming back to life sooner rather than later in Rabbit Hole.
He talks about his character's demise, the SVU cast (he and Mariska are close friends), his future plans & projects and a tidbit about Mariska & Chris signing for Season 11. (Does he know something we don't?!) Thanks to SpyBarbie at svufans.net
http://www.tvguidemagazine.com/news/ohallo...n-svu-1303.html
Law & Order: SVU executive producer Neal Baer told TV Guide Magazine back in February that “one of the SVU family” would die in the shows tenth season finale. Rumors flew that it was Munch (Richard Belzer) on his way out. However, the unlucky victim turns out to be forensics guy Ryan O’Halloran (Mike Doyle), who took a knife in the chest to earn his own chalk outline. TV Guide Magazine talked to the actor a few hours before his final SVU appearance.
When did you find out that you were slated to be killed?
Neal Baer gave me a call in the middle of April, a couple of weeks before we started shooting the finale. He assured me that it had nothing to do with me personally or my ability as an actor, but they were making some changes on the show next year. Neal wanted someone to die in the end and rather than peter my character out, he wanted to give him a proper send-off with a bang. Or a—what’s the sound of a knife? A shhh.
You were shanked. A term you might know from your days on Oz.
It was my first time being shanked, but I’ve been killed in many things that I’ve done over the years.. I was electrocuted on Oz, shot and blown up on a show called Smith. In a TV movie called The Loss of Innocence, I was shot on a deer hunt, mistaken for a deer by Rob Estes, who was sleeping with my wife, Jennie Garth. This is like the seventh time I’ve died in a decade. I’m starting to get a complex.
Were you a budget victim?
There wasn’t any indication that it had anything to do with budgetary considerations or the economy. I’ve been on the show for six years and my understanding is that they’re going to introduce some new faces next year.
You were killed by one of your own. The creepy forensics wannabe Dale Stuckey. That’s cold.
Yes. I think people were either rooting for him to be killed or to be the killer. (laughs) Noel Fisher is a really incredible actor and he accomplishes that thing that good actors do. He makes people hate him.
He was pretty creepy in Life recently.
He’s a great guy. It was kind of funny because I was his mentor in the forensics lab. So when we were shooting the final episode, I was like, “You son of a b----! You gonna die!!’ He’s like, ‘Dude, I’m sorry… I didn’t mean it.’”
We should have known. His character was such a screw-up.
Yeah, there was definitely a mark on Stucky. He messed up cases and in the finale, ultimately he tried to correct an error by going on a homicidal rampage to blame it on a real serial killer. Not necessarily the best means to an end.
What do we know about O’Halloran after all these years?
There was one little glimpse several seasons ago that I was on a date that Benson called me out of and I wasn’t too pleased. They costumed me with a snazzy wardrobe. So I was like, “ Ok, that’s good.” I was kind of the go-to guy who was confined to the lab or the crime scene, always solving the crime, I might add. But never getting the glory. Out of 53 episodes, I solved about half the crimes! My poor hands have never actually been shown on television. Except for maybe two episodes, they were always in latex gloves. I was very, very good at my job.
What was the most fun about being part of the SVU ensemble?
The most fun was working on a cop show in New York City. I couldn’t ask for a better place to work and a better show to work on in New York. From the top on down. That’s what’s made going to work a joy and the prospect of not returning all the harder because I forged some very, very tight bonds on the show.
Who did you get close to on the show?
Mariska and I are very close friends.
What can you say about Chris and Mariska’s probably signing on to another season?
I’m excited for her. I think the eleventh season is going to be really interesting for their characters. I’m just happy that they’re coming back and have come to an agreement.
Did the rest of the cast think the show could really work without Mariska and Chris?
I think everybody was hopeful that it could. Fortunately, it looks like they don’t have to test that out because they are coming back.
Did you keep your death a secret?
I did from a lot of people. I only told the friends who were with me when I got the call.. Their first response was “Not again!” But six seasons on anything is really a blessing for an actor.
You’ve appeared on lots of shows, but would you agree that Oz got you a bit of notoriety?
Yes, I was a pretty unsavory character on Oz. That was a brutal trajectory that Tom Fontana had me on, from being sold to the Aryans to being gang raped by the gang to being their bitch to being electrocuted on a fence.
Well, you were so mean to that nice Tobias Beecher. Weren’t you?
I was a rapist, c’mon! I was a bad guy! When I got on the show, I said to my mom, “You might want to watch a couple episodes before I come on.” She watched one, and said “Oh, Michael, I don’t think I can watch this.” And by the end of the season, she was, “What’s going to happen to Beecher and Keller?”
What other roles are you most proud of?
I met SVU’s executive producer Neal Baer on ER about 10 years ago when I did an episode. He wrote a scene about a schizophrenic law student who attacks his car because he hears voices that tell him to attack his wife, who was played by Jessica Capshaw. Neal wrote this really beautiful part and little did I know that I would work for Neal on his other show, which was really fantastic. It’s nice when you feel watched out for.
You’re described frequently as a producer, director and writer as well as an actor. True?
Yeah, I produced , wrote and directed a short film that premiered at the Tribeca Film Festival in 2006 called Shiner. It starred Amy Ryan, a good friend of mine, who was nominated for an Oscar for Gone, Baby Gone and George Morfogen from Oz. I’m developing a feature right now in addition to my day job as an actor.
What’s next in your day job?
I am so fortunate that as we were shooting the finale, trying hard not to get too sad about leaving the show, I got cast in the new Nicole Kidman movie, Rabbit Hole. It’s based on a play but they’ve opened up the story and there are a bunch of supporting characters. Aaron Eckhart is in it. John Cameron Mitchell is directing. Rabbit Hole is about a couple who loses their child in front of their home, and my wife (Ali Marsh) and I and our child are trying to buy that house, which kind of brings up all of what happened.
Lots of luck. Sorry about the knife to the chest.
You know, it’s good to have the opportunity to not stay in one place too long. That’s what great about an actor’s life. You come back to life in great and unexpected ways. I’m grateful for the time I had on SVU and I’m also grateful for coming back to life sooner rather than later in Rabbit Hole.
Ryan,
I came back to visit you. This is to mark your first week death anniversary tomorrow (my time). I want to see you one last time before this thread goes down to the next page. Tonight, I will be watching the only episodes you were in starting from season five in your honor. You will always be remembered. I love you. Sweet dreams!
I am glad he was able to find work so fast and he left on good terms. I would have loved to have been able to see him more often on the show but...all great things must come to an end. Thanks for the article ram47! I was a nice insight into the actor!
O'Halloran was a smart, dedicated and easy going man, he did so much for the SVU squad, he will be missed by the viewers. I haven't seen the episode yet but i am sure it is going to make me sad, I shed a tear just reading these posts.
QUOTE (Mary82 @ Jun 9 2009, 12:11 AM)
I am glad he was able to find work so fast and he left on good terms. I would have loved to have been able to see him more often on the show but...all great things must come to an end. Thanks for the article ram47! I was a nice insight into the actor!
I am with you . I was so moved by the wonderful message Mike Doyle stated. He is very nice guy. I am very happy for him as he moves on with his plans. I wish him good luck.
Thank you, Trixie, for the article.
In rememberance of him I'd thought I should post all the episodes he was in, I'm doing an O'Halloran Marathon to remember him.
Season 3
Prodigy
Season 5
Choice
Control
Ritual
Careless
Lowdown
Criminal
Bound
Season 6
Debt
Scavenger
Conscience
Weak
Haunted
Quarry
Game
Ghost
Intoxicated
Night
Blood
Season 7
Demons
Design
Strain
Raw
Storm
Blast
Taboo
Manipulated
Gone
Fault
Fat
Season 8
Recall
Cage
Scheherazade
Loophole
Haystack
Philadelphia
Sin
Flordia
Annihilated
Season 9
Svengali
Blinded
Snitch
Unorthodox
Authority
Trade
Cold
Season 10
Babes
Persona
Lead
Ballerina
Selfish
Crush
Zebras
Season 3
Prodigy
Season 5
Choice
Control
Ritual
Careless
Lowdown
Criminal
Bound
Season 6
Debt
Scavenger
Conscience
Weak
Haunted
Quarry
Game
Ghost
Intoxicated
Night
Blood
Season 7
Demons
Design
Strain
Raw
Storm
Blast
Taboo
Manipulated
Gone
Fault
Fat
Season 8
Recall
Cage
Scheherazade
Loophole
Haystack
Philadelphia
Sin
Flordia
Annihilated
Season 9
Svengali
Blinded
Snitch
Unorthodox
Authority
Trade
Cold
Season 10
Babes
Persona
Lead
Ballerina
Selfish
Crush
Zebras
QUOTE (alpharenay94 @ Jun 9 2009, 11:26 PM)
In rememberance of him I'd thought I should post all the episodes he was in, I'm doing an O'Halloran Marathon to remember him.
Season 3
Prodigy
Season 3
Prodigy
He wasn't O'Halloran in this episode, he was the M.E. (I think assistant?) a completely different character. Kinda like Diane Neal's Amelia Chase from Ridicule and Casey Novak.
QUOTE (alpharenay94 @ Jun 9 2009, 08:26 PM)
In rememberance of him I'd thought I should post all the episodes he was in, I'm doing an O'Halloran Marathon to remember him.
Season 3
Prodigy
Season 3
Prodigy
He was Asst. ME Karlan. Thanks for posting the episodes.
QUOTE (SVUlovesME @ Jun 9 2009, 10:49 PM)
He wasn't O'Halloran in this episode, he was the M.E. (I think assistant?) a completely different character. Kinda like Diane Neal's Amelia Chase from Ridicule and Casey Novak.
I know he wasn't O'Halloran but it's still an appearance by him though.
QUOTE (BlaZer @ Jun 9 2009, 10:54 PM)
He was Asst. ME Karlan. Thanks for posting the episodes.
You Welcome
I'm so sorry it has taken me so long to offer my condolences. I don't handle loss well. That with life being somewhat hectic these days, it's taken me some time for it to really sink in. And it's just not fair that in the episode we loose him, he is at his finest. I just got done with my Zebras caps and could just not bring it in me to cap the death stab or him lying there. So sad...I think I'll go through my files too and have me a mini O'Halloran fest.
QUOTE (BlaZer @ Jun 9 2009, 10:54 PM)
He was Asst. ME Karlan. Thanks for posting the episodes.
BlaZer,
Click this link Red Eye
Watch Mike Doyle (Ryan O'Halloran) on FOX's 'Red Eye' with Greg Gutfeld
I was also one of the many upset at his death. Why did the hot one have to bite it?
Blazer and I have a bet going on...
Will Ryan be mentioned at all for the first 5 episodes?
I bet yes
Blazer bet no
The winning result will be in the episode's thread...or here depending if I lose!
The loser will make the winner a signature banner
Will Ryan be mentioned at all for the first 5 episodes?
I bet yes
Blazer bet no
The winning result will be in the episode's thread...or here depending if I lose!
The loser will make the winner a signature banner
QUOTE (SVUlovesME @ Sep 9 2009, 06:38 PM)
Blazer and I have a bet going on...
Will Ryan be mentioned at all for the first 5 episodes?
I bet yes
Blazer bet no
The winning result will be in the episode's thread...or here depending if I lose!
The loser will make the winner a signature banner
Will Ryan be mentioned at all for the first 5 episodes?
I bet yes
Blazer bet no
The winning result will be in the episode's thread...or here depending if I lose!
The loser will make the winner a signature banner
I was half-awake when I made that bet
Okay, you're on!
QUOTE (SVUlovesME @ Sep 9 2009, 09:38 PM)
Blazer and I have a bet going on...
Will Ryan be mentioned at all for the first 5 episodes?
Will Ryan be mentioned at all for the first 5 episodes?
See, I was hoping for something at least. I watched Stabler tonight like, "No love for your fellow Irishman?" I need closure, darn it. Then again, I was also hoping that Ryan had an equally suave and talented twin brother who happens to be in the same profession and would be suddenly available to take his place after an Epic Funeral Service. So I don't even know what to think anymore.
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