Full Version: I'm hearing some sad news coming outof New Orleans
If you got CNN Channel or MSNBC Channel you need to turn on your television to those channel now. They are report that people have no food,water, & no medical supplies. They reporting people are dying & also there is a sniper in one of the hospital in New Orleans. It is getting crazy in Losiana. I'm thought you guy should know b/c most of you got either friends or family down there.
God its getting worse I wish there was something I could do to help! I'm not religious at all but in this case I pray for all those who are stranded
I know -- can you imagine? The whole city of New Orleans CLOSED!!! Unimaginable! And the people who are stranded there are most likely poor, elderly, or ill to begin with since they couldn't leave when everyone was told to evacuate on Sunday. And now, here it is 4 days later... What are they doing for food and water and medicines if they are ill? It must be awful! Normally the National Guard and the army would have been there by now helping to evacuate people and control looting, but they're all in Iraq. What a terrible situation! My heart goes out to those poor people. So many are homeless now.
What really disguests me is that when that tsunami hit asia on boxing day everyone dropped what they were doing and tryed to help out best they could. But b/c its the US no one seems to care or help out!
But yet if it were a poorer country they can't get there fast enough to help crazy!!
I thought were supposed to help anyone that was in need of help
But yet if it were a poorer country they can't get there fast enough to help crazy!!
I thought were supposed to help anyone that was in need of help
Quote:Several other countries have offered to help. Venezuela offered to bring in oil because many of our oil refineries will be either temporarily or permanently out of commission. We can expect not only drastically increased gas prices now, but also long lines and closed gas stations. I don't know if Bush has accepted any offers of assistance yet. What I am irked about is that the whole purpose of the National Guard is to protect our own shores, not fight in the middle east. In previous emergencies they were right there within hours with equipment and people to do what needed to be done. Now all of the equipment and people are overseas.
What really disguests me is that when that tsunami hit asia on boxing day everyone dropped what they were doing and tryed to help out best they could. But b/c its the US no one seems to care or help out!
But yet if it were a poorer country they can't get there fast enough to help crazy!!
I thought were supposed to help anyone that was in need of help
You can donate online to the Red Cross. Relief organizations need money right now more than anything else (besides soldiers).
I read somewhere that 10,000 additional National Guardsmen were sent in to aid in the rescue operations. I don't know where from. And on the news they've been showing a ton of helicoptor rescues from rooftops and attics, and boat caravans floating through the city picking up survivors, so I think (well, hope) that enough help is there... but it's gotta be hard to find people with such a huge area affected and everything under water. I can't even imagine how you'd go about organizing a search and rescue that big.
I've heard of a lot of places that are donating money and supplies and/or accepting donations to send food, water and clothing down... Wal-Mart is donating and accepting donations along with other stores, the annual Jerry Lewis telethon is giving $1 million in aid, music stations like MTV, VH1, CMT are holding fund-raising concerts, celebrities are helping out by sending semi-trucks filled with supplies, including things like chainsaws for clearing the streets and making areas more accessible...
And according to an MSNBC article,
"Offers have been received from Russia, Japan, Canada, France, Honduras, Germany, Venezuela, Jamaica, Australia, the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Greece, Hungary, Colombia, the Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Mexico, China, South Korea, Israel, the United Arab Emirates, NATO and the Organization of American States, the spokesman said."
So the aid is available, it's just a question of whether it can get to people in time to save as many lives as possible. God it's such a terrible disaster without the looters and the violence on police.
I've heard of a lot of places that are donating money and supplies and/or accepting donations to send food, water and clothing down... Wal-Mart is donating and accepting donations along with other stores, the annual Jerry Lewis telethon is giving $1 million in aid, music stations like MTV, VH1, CMT are holding fund-raising concerts, celebrities are helping out by sending semi-trucks filled with supplies, including things like chainsaws for clearing the streets and making areas more accessible...
And according to an MSNBC article,
"Offers have been received from Russia, Japan, Canada, France, Honduras, Germany, Venezuela, Jamaica, Australia, the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Greece, Hungary, Colombia, the Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Mexico, China, South Korea, Israel, the United Arab Emirates, NATO and the Organization of American States, the spokesman said."
So the aid is available, it's just a question of whether it can get to people in time to save as many lives as possible. God it's such a terrible disaster without the looters and the violence on police.
I was at work when I heard that that monster was an F5. That is the worse possible hurricane.
I had no idea about New Orleans or the surrounding areas up to a few days ago. I just happened to glance at the local paper's front page and there was the tragedy.
I saw the news later to hear this guy recount living through the experience and losing his wife to the monster in the process.
Here's something that I don't understand. After 9/11, people joined together, were actually nicer to each other, and there was no looting really or violence that followed that horrendous act of terrorism.
Now, after a horrendous act from mother nature, some are being inconsiderate or even despicable in looting and violence while there are people out there that need to be rescued and cared for. Where's the humanity? Where's the dignity?
This is why I try not to watch the news or read it anymore. I can't take it, the sick [censored] that goes on in our world sometimes.
Did Bush even fly over the devastation? Did he make a speech about it? Has he done anything?
I have no money to send. All I can do is pray to God that the people stranded are rescued and cared for. All I can do is hope that those that need aid will get it soon, and maybe some national guardsmen will return home to help out over there. That's all I can do is hope and pray.
That's all I can do.
I had no idea about New Orleans or the surrounding areas up to a few days ago. I just happened to glance at the local paper's front page and there was the tragedy.
I saw the news later to hear this guy recount living through the experience and losing his wife to the monster in the process.
Here's something that I don't understand. After 9/11, people joined together, were actually nicer to each other, and there was no looting really or violence that followed that horrendous act of terrorism.
Now, after a horrendous act from mother nature, some are being inconsiderate or even despicable in looting and violence while there are people out there that need to be rescued and cared for. Where's the humanity? Where's the dignity?
This is why I try not to watch the news or read it anymore. I can't take it, the sick [censored] that goes on in our world sometimes.
Did Bush even fly over the devastation? Did he make a speech about it? Has he done anything?
I have no money to send. All I can do is pray to God that the people stranded are rescued and cared for. All I can do is hope that those that need aid will get it soon, and maybe some national guardsmen will return home to help out over there. That's all I can do is hope and pray.
That's all I can do.
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Here's something that I don't understand. After 9/11, people joined together, were actually nicer to each other, and there was no looting really or violence that followed that horrendous act of terrorism.
Now, after a horrendous act from mother nature, some are being inconsiderate or even despicable in looting and violence while there are people out there that need to be rescued and cared for. Where's the humanity? Where's the dignity?
I don't know what's wrong with some people. But the difference from the 9/11 attacks is that in the gulf coast area, whole cities have been destroyed and there is virtually no law enforcement available to stop the looting... and those police officers who are able to act are more concerned with rescuing people, as it should be. When the terrorists attacked the WTC, New York wasn't totally disabled and there weren't thousands of people desperate for food, water and supplies to live. It was a different kind of situation. If the looting incidents were isolated to people breaking into grocery stores to feed their stranded families, I can understand that. In that situation, screw the law and survive. But it's the people who are just taking advantage of this disaster to make off with anything they can lay their hands on who are causing all the trouble and I do not understand how they can do that! It's sick how greed takes priority over helping neighbors.
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Did Bush even fly over the devastation? Did he make a speech about it? Has he done anything?
Yes, Bush flew over New Orleans in Air Force One and has made multiple public statements, reassuring people that a lot federal aid is coming and such... but I haven't heard any really recent details because I haven't watched the news today.
It seems like we are seeing first hand a taste of how Armaggedon will be. It is very sobering. Even the reporters are starting to break down on air. This is very tragic, and I am praying alot for them.
The National Guard is on its way, I know this because my Father-in-law is one of them. The part that slows them down is that everything takes time. It took time to decide what states to take the guard from, took time to notify them that they'd be going which by the way was less than 12 hours before they had to report and for a reserve unit thats very fast, and it will also take time to mobilize them when they're there. Helicopters don't hold more than several dozen if that. They have no reliable roadways and have to navigate through basically a waterway to get to anyone.
To some extent the looters are either crazy or oblivious to the real devistation that surrounds them. People walking through waist deep water with electronic equipment, there is no electricity, and the merchandise will be ruined in a few days.
I am not criticizing anyone at this time because what is before us is unfathomable. What I don't understand however is why the city wasn't protected for the worst case scenario. The main concern I have is that the majority of this flooding issue wasn't caused by Katrina directly, but the systems put into place were compromised by Katrina. If those levees and pumps would have remained functional, New Orleans would have still had a major flood problem but they would be able to deal with it much more effectively and the disater would not have escillated to the point it has currently. They actually said that the water rose above the levees and then compromised its foundation leading to the breaches. Why weren't those walls built higher???
The other thing I don't understand is how somehow this is being spun in the presidents direction. I actually watched one al sharpton summarize the chaos and tradgedy in New Orleans and then end it with a snide comment about how the president was at his ranch in crawford texas. The crude reality is that the majority of americans for the last five days have been in the comforts of their home. That does not mean that we have no empathy for those people, that we do not care. I pray for them everynight. To put a political spin on this is disrepectful of all of those affected by this tragedy. And I ask, during 9/11 what faces do you remember most? For me its Rudy Giuliani and president Bush. I ask then, why no cricism of this mayor whose sole responsibility is this city, does him being a democrat have anything to do with that?
The magintude of this disaster is what makes it so difficult to rectify and is what simultaneously is making the situation progressively worse.
I pray for all the vicitims, volunteers, officials and military involved in this tradgedy within New Orleans, Louisiana, Missippi, Alabama and Florida.
To some extent the looters are either crazy or oblivious to the real devistation that surrounds them. People walking through waist deep water with electronic equipment, there is no electricity, and the merchandise will be ruined in a few days.
I am not criticizing anyone at this time because what is before us is unfathomable. What I don't understand however is why the city wasn't protected for the worst case scenario. The main concern I have is that the majority of this flooding issue wasn't caused by Katrina directly, but the systems put into place were compromised by Katrina. If those levees and pumps would have remained functional, New Orleans would have still had a major flood problem but they would be able to deal with it much more effectively and the disater would not have escillated to the point it has currently. They actually said that the water rose above the levees and then compromised its foundation leading to the breaches. Why weren't those walls built higher???
The other thing I don't understand is how somehow this is being spun in the presidents direction. I actually watched one al sharpton summarize the chaos and tradgedy in New Orleans and then end it with a snide comment about how the president was at his ranch in crawford texas. The crude reality is that the majority of americans for the last five days have been in the comforts of their home. That does not mean that we have no empathy for those people, that we do not care. I pray for them everynight. To put a political spin on this is disrepectful of all of those affected by this tragedy. And I ask, during 9/11 what faces do you remember most? For me its Rudy Giuliani and president Bush. I ask then, why no cricism of this mayor whose sole responsibility is this city, does him being a democrat have anything to do with that?
The magintude of this disaster is what makes it so difficult to rectify and is what simultaneously is making the situation progressively worse.
I pray for all the vicitims, volunteers, officials and military involved in this tradgedy within New Orleans, Louisiana, Missippi, Alabama and Florida.
The President just held a news conference where he said that the results of the relief efforts "are not acceptable." His exact words. It has nothing to do with Democrat or Republican, the reality of the situation is that help is not getting there fast enough. The federal government, with all our Homeland Security preparations, was just not prepared for a domestic disaster of this magnitude. We are mobilizing, but it is taking too long, and people who survived the wind and floods are dying of thirst, hunger, disease, and lack of medical treatment.
Also, according to a report that I just saw on the Today Show, the reports of sporadic lawlessness are making relief workers afraid to come into New Orleans. There are hospitals and buses parked outside the city, whose drivers told a Today Show photojournalist that they will not enter the city because "their wives won't let them." While no doubt there are some awful, illegal things happening, we are by and large confusing pictures of anger and desperation with violence. This may be an instance of where the media's tendency to oversensationalize has caused dire harm.
As far as the city of New Orleans not protecting itself, it's been known for years that a storm of this magnitude would destroy the city. There was a project in place to upgrade the levees, costing billions of dollars, which had been funded by the federal government. Over the last few years, funding has been cut for the project, and the decision was made to fortify the levees to withstand up to a category 3 hurricane. Katrina, of course, exceeded that.
But that's not unusual, is it? We know that a major earthquake is likely to kill thousands in California. Do we evacuate California, earthquake proof every single building, move all those houses off of cliffsides? We do what we can do, given money, priorities, politics and personal choice. We gamble that the unthinkable won't happen, and this time we lost.
I realize this isn't the venue for this kind of discussion, but watching these pictures, and hearing these stories, well, just needed an outlet to talk. Besides sending money, what else can we do?
Also, according to a report that I just saw on the Today Show, the reports of sporadic lawlessness are making relief workers afraid to come into New Orleans. There are hospitals and buses parked outside the city, whose drivers told a Today Show photojournalist that they will not enter the city because "their wives won't let them." While no doubt there are some awful, illegal things happening, we are by and large confusing pictures of anger and desperation with violence. This may be an instance of where the media's tendency to oversensationalize has caused dire harm.
As far as the city of New Orleans not protecting itself, it's been known for years that a storm of this magnitude would destroy the city. There was a project in place to upgrade the levees, costing billions of dollars, which had been funded by the federal government. Over the last few years, funding has been cut for the project, and the decision was made to fortify the levees to withstand up to a category 3 hurricane. Katrina, of course, exceeded that.
But that's not unusual, is it? We know that a major earthquake is likely to kill thousands in California. Do we evacuate California, earthquake proof every single building, move all those houses off of cliffsides? We do what we can do, given money, priorities, politics and personal choice. We gamble that the unthinkable won't happen, and this time we lost.
I realize this isn't the venue for this kind of discussion, but watching these pictures, and hearing these stories, well, just needed an outlet to talk. Besides sending money, what else can we do?
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You can donate online to the Red Cross. Relief organizations need money right now more than anything else (besides soldiers).
Thanks for link I don't have much money but I'll send what I can
I couldn't agree with you more. That is exactly my point. Politics should never enter into this situation, people should be concentrating on sending help and saving the people who are left behind.
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Here's something that I don't understand. After 9/11, people joined together, were actually nicer to each other, and there was no looting really or violence that followed that horrendous act of terrorism.
Now, after a horrendous act from mother nature, some are being inconsiderate or even despicable in looting and violence while there are people out there that need to be rescued and cared for. Where's the humanity? Where's the dignity?
I don't know what's wrong with some people. But the difference from the 9/11 attacks is that in the gulf coast area, whole cities have been destroyed and there is virtually no law enforcement available to stop the looting... and those police officers who are able to act are more concerned with rescuing people, as it should be. When the terrorists attacked the WTC, New York wasn't totally disabled and there weren't thousands of people desperate for food, water and supplies to live. It was a different kind of situation. If the looting incidents were isolated to people breaking into grocery stores to feed their stranded families, I can understand that. In that situation, screw the law and survive. But it's the people who are just taking advantage of this disaster to make off with anything they can lay their hands on who are causing all the trouble and I do not understand how they can do that! It's sick how greed takes priority over helping neighbors.
It is sick. How can materialism win over humanity? I can understand stealing food to survive but a tv? Do they want to watch the news?Quote:
Did Bush even fly over the devastation? Did he make a speech about it? Has he done anything?
Yes, Bush flew over New Orleans in Air Force One and has made multiple public statements, reassuring people that a lot federal aid is coming and such... but I haven't heard any really recent details because I haven't watched the news today.
I missed the news, but I'll catch it later this weekend.
I hope help comes soon to those still stranded.
I can't believe how the media is putting a political and racial spin on this. They can't just report the facts anymore, as they believe we are too stupid to make our own opinions about them. The media makes me sick! So, I do what I can to help out.
1) I gave a double Red Blood Cell donation today. The blood donated in KY stays in KY, but I was told that up to 50 patients per day were going to be brought to our hospitals for treatment. If my blood doesn't go directly to victims of Katrina, it can go to someone else to leave other blood for those victims if needed.
2) We took all the change in our house (a whopping $3.00) to the mall where the local news was collecting. We didn't have much extra this week, but they were asking that if you had 30 cents in your console to please bring it by. I guess if everyone contributed 30 cents, it would add up pretty quickly. And though we didn't have much extra money this week, I am sure these people will be needing monetary help for a while, so I will give what I can each week. Every little bit makes a difference somehow. Even the boys took their change from their little wallets to help out.
3) We took canned goods to my husband's job where they are having a food drive. There were good things at my house that we just never eat, so I gave it where it would be appreciated. I also had the boys each pick out a vegetable that they would like to eat when we went grocery shopping today to share with our neighbors in need. I am trying to use this time to teach my sons love and compassion for their fellow men.
4) Probably most importantly, I am praying and praying for the needs of these precious lives to be met.
I don't care wether the homeless and helpless are republicans or democrats. I don't care if they are black, white, green or purple. I care that I have to do anything in my power not to watch my brothers and sisters suffer. I believe that some things could have been done differently to make this situation less extreme. I also know that there are many, many men and women doing everything in their power to make the best of a horrible situation.
God bless each and every person who is suffering in this tragic time, and each and every hand that reaches out to help and each and every heart that lifts our nation up in prayer.
I saw something very touching on TV tonight. There was a band of people traveling (walking down the highway) together, all pierced and tattooed and wearing black. One of the girls in the group borrowed the reporter's cell phone and called her father in Ohio, who is a preacher. He was coming in the church van to pick the group up and bring them back to Ohio where they will be fed, clothed, sheltered, and no doubt loved. That touched my heart in a way that I can't express.
Something else that I was thinking about is this: Many of those who are there are very, VERY poor. I have no doubt in my mind that they lived in awful conditions. When everything is re-built, I'm guessing that some who have never lived in anything but a "roach motel" all of their lives will have some very nice places to come home to. I hope and pray that from this tragedy will come blessings that we can't yet imagine.
God bless!
1) I gave a double Red Blood Cell donation today. The blood donated in KY stays in KY, but I was told that up to 50 patients per day were going to be brought to our hospitals for treatment. If my blood doesn't go directly to victims of Katrina, it can go to someone else to leave other blood for those victims if needed.
2) We took all the change in our house (a whopping $3.00) to the mall where the local news was collecting. We didn't have much extra this week, but they were asking that if you had 30 cents in your console to please bring it by. I guess if everyone contributed 30 cents, it would add up pretty quickly. And though we didn't have much extra money this week, I am sure these people will be needing monetary help for a while, so I will give what I can each week. Every little bit makes a difference somehow. Even the boys took their change from their little wallets to help out.
3) We took canned goods to my husband's job where they are having a food drive. There were good things at my house that we just never eat, so I gave it where it would be appreciated. I also had the boys each pick out a vegetable that they would like to eat when we went grocery shopping today to share with our neighbors in need. I am trying to use this time to teach my sons love and compassion for their fellow men.
4) Probably most importantly, I am praying and praying for the needs of these precious lives to be met.
I don't care wether the homeless and helpless are republicans or democrats. I don't care if they are black, white, green or purple. I care that I have to do anything in my power not to watch my brothers and sisters suffer. I believe that some things could have been done differently to make this situation less extreme. I also know that there are many, many men and women doing everything in their power to make the best of a horrible situation.
God bless each and every person who is suffering in this tragic time, and each and every hand that reaches out to help and each and every heart that lifts our nation up in prayer.
I saw something very touching on TV tonight. There was a band of people traveling (walking down the highway) together, all pierced and tattooed and wearing black. One of the girls in the group borrowed the reporter's cell phone and called her father in Ohio, who is a preacher. He was coming in the church van to pick the group up and bring them back to Ohio where they will be fed, clothed, sheltered, and no doubt loved. That touched my heart in a way that I can't express.
Something else that I was thinking about is this: Many of those who are there are very, VERY poor. I have no doubt in my mind that they lived in awful conditions. When everything is re-built, I'm guessing that some who have never lived in anything but a "roach motel" all of their lives will have some very nice places to come home to. I hope and pray that from this tragedy will come blessings that we can't yet imagine.
God bless!
I'm not sure which one of you guys said this, multiple people, probably, but you mentioned looting in New Orleans.
That's one of the big crimes going on down there, I believe, but I was thinking about this....
You know the people that are stuck down there right now? The ones that haven't gotten out yet? Could they be looting to live?
I mean, I was watching a news program and they were interview this man and he had taken a couple mattresses from a store. He said that he wasn't steeling, but he needed them to sleep on. He also commented that he could have slept on the ground, but his children really needed them.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there's a bunch of people down there who are looting to be looting, but there's probably a few who have a half way legitimate reason.
Any thoughts? Opinions? Anything? I don't know much, really, I'm only 15....!
Does anyone know what is going on with people shooting up the helicopters that are bringing supplies? I heard that there was some helicopters and rescue people that were shot at. Does anyone know anything about it?
-Jamie-
That's one of the big crimes going on down there, I believe, but I was thinking about this....
You know the people that are stuck down there right now? The ones that haven't gotten out yet? Could they be looting to live?
I mean, I was watching a news program and they were interview this man and he had taken a couple mattresses from a store. He said that he wasn't steeling, but he needed them to sleep on. He also commented that he could have slept on the ground, but his children really needed them.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there's a bunch of people down there who are looting to be looting, but there's probably a few who have a half way legitimate reason.
Any thoughts? Opinions? Anything? I don't know much, really, I'm only 15....!
Does anyone know what is going on with people shooting up the helicopters that are bringing supplies? I heard that there was some helicopters and rescue people that were shot at. Does anyone know anything about it?
-Jamie-
Warning: Here's my rant.
First of all, I think some of the TV news has overstated the looting situation. I really feel that the majority of the looters were stealing necessities. After all, their homes are gone, or at the very least flooded, and everything is ruined. They need food, water, medicines, clothes, blankets, anything to make them a little more comfortable. I have no doubt some people were stealing TV's and such, but since there's no electricity, I doubt very much there were very many people doing that. I think survival right now is the key.
However, one big problem has been snipers. Some people broke into a WalMart or Kmart and stole guns.
I heard about one couple who had spent 3 days on their roof (don't forget the weather is in the mid-90's, and it's very humid). They were completely dehydrated. On Wednesday, they had decided they would commit suicide together on Thursday, but someone rescued them late Wednesday. They had given up because they hadn't seen any rescuers, just some helicopters in the distance.
Personally, I think the government's reaction has been really slow. I have never lived in the South but I know that there is some warning before hurricanes. I heard that Katrina was upgraded to a 5 on Friday, and on Saturday people were told to evacuate. How in the hell can you totally evacuate an area with well over a million people? You gotta know that some people will refuse to leave their homes, some people can't leave their homes because they're sick, some people can't leave because they have no means, and some people might not even know about it! So why didn't they get the National Guard or Army in there on Sunday to help with the evac and to maintain order? As it is, I understand that the majority of National Guard weren't even called up until Wednesday! It takes that long to "decide"? Nearly 3 days after the devastation? They should have been ready to go in and help immediately after the hurricane danger was gone!
On Tuesday (about 36 hours after the hurricane) Bush announced that he wanted a report about the emergency on his desk by Wednesday afternoon. He cut short his vacation by 1 day and was back in Washington on Wednesday (2+ days after the hurricane). That doesn't really sound like he was "taking charge". I really don't think he realized how big of an emergency it was (which is really weird because I was watching it on TV on Monday and Tuesday and was astonished at the devastation). He did his "flyover" of the areas on his way from Texas to Washington on Wednesday at 2,500 feet. When he did finally get to Mississippi on Friday, there were plenty of cameras around to show how concerned he is. I don't think he's going to New Orleans, but I haven't heard or read the news today yet.
Now picture how you would feel if you've been sitting on your roof in the sun without food, water, medicine, blankets, toilet facilities for 3 days, and no communication from anyone about what is going on. 3 days is a really long time.
The guy that Bush appointed to be in charge of FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) has never had any emergency planning experience. Also, like the levee project, FEMA has been nearly decimated due to funding cuts over the past 5 years, and the number of available emergency people is not adequate. I'm sorry if I am offending anyone, but it just doesn't feel like average American citizens are much of a priority with this president. Everything goes wrong, which is a symptom of inept management. Do you feel safe?
First of all, I think some of the TV news has overstated the looting situation. I really feel that the majority of the looters were stealing necessities. After all, their homes are gone, or at the very least flooded, and everything is ruined. They need food, water, medicines, clothes, blankets, anything to make them a little more comfortable. I have no doubt some people were stealing TV's and such, but since there's no electricity, I doubt very much there were very many people doing that. I think survival right now is the key.
However, one big problem has been snipers. Some people broke into a WalMart or Kmart and stole guns.
I heard about one couple who had spent 3 days on their roof (don't forget the weather is in the mid-90's, and it's very humid). They were completely dehydrated. On Wednesday, they had decided they would commit suicide together on Thursday, but someone rescued them late Wednesday. They had given up because they hadn't seen any rescuers, just some helicopters in the distance.
Personally, I think the government's reaction has been really slow. I have never lived in the South but I know that there is some warning before hurricanes. I heard that Katrina was upgraded to a 5 on Friday, and on Saturday people were told to evacuate. How in the hell can you totally evacuate an area with well over a million people? You gotta know that some people will refuse to leave their homes, some people can't leave their homes because they're sick, some people can't leave because they have no means, and some people might not even know about it! So why didn't they get the National Guard or Army in there on Sunday to help with the evac and to maintain order? As it is, I understand that the majority of National Guard weren't even called up until Wednesday! It takes that long to "decide"? Nearly 3 days after the devastation? They should have been ready to go in and help immediately after the hurricane danger was gone!
On Tuesday (about 36 hours after the hurricane) Bush announced that he wanted a report about the emergency on his desk by Wednesday afternoon. He cut short his vacation by 1 day and was back in Washington on Wednesday (2+ days after the hurricane). That doesn't really sound like he was "taking charge". I really don't think he realized how big of an emergency it was (which is really weird because I was watching it on TV on Monday and Tuesday and was astonished at the devastation). He did his "flyover" of the areas on his way from Texas to Washington on Wednesday at 2,500 feet. When he did finally get to Mississippi on Friday, there were plenty of cameras around to show how concerned he is. I don't think he's going to New Orleans, but I haven't heard or read the news today yet.
Now picture how you would feel if you've been sitting on your roof in the sun without food, water, medicine, blankets, toilet facilities for 3 days, and no communication from anyone about what is going on. 3 days is a really long time.
The guy that Bush appointed to be in charge of FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) has never had any emergency planning experience. Also, like the levee project, FEMA has been nearly decimated due to funding cuts over the past 5 years, and the number of available emergency people is not adequate. I'm sorry if I am offending anyone, but it just doesn't feel like average American citizens are much of a priority with this president. Everything goes wrong, which is a symptom of inept management. Do you feel safe?
CAZoneWoman, I was actually trying to stay away from the boards since the season ended because I have 4 projects going on right now, but I have to say something here.
You have offended me many times, and that's okay. But I think that it is really sick that you would use the tragedy of the hurricane to try and make a political point. Do you even have any idea how reprehensible that even is? As usual, your facts are all mixed up. People on here who know the facts personally have tried to correct them for you, yet you still insist on turning the tragedies of innocent people into a flawed political analysis. This is NOT the time to point fingers, and this is not the place either. I'm not even going to respond specifically to any of your political comments because this is beyond politics. People have lost their entire lives and the only thing that should be on everyone's minds is getting them the help they need. That's it. There's nothing else that is as important.
The fact that you actually sympathize with the looters and are making excuses for them says a lot about you as a person. These people are nothing less than criminals taking advantage of a national disaster. The police should not have to worry about choosing between stopping their senseless crimes or saving lives. Yet that is what is happening. You make excuses for them, but the truth is that people are literally dying because law enforcement has to deal with them instead of focusing on helping people. Please, I am asking you to please, show just a little bit of responsibility when posting your "rants".
My heart goes out to everyone who has been affected by this terrible event. I am doing whatever I can to help, and I sincerely urge everyone to do the same. We can pull through this and rebuild if we all pull together as a nation. We are all Americans, this affects all of us. Thanks-
You have offended me many times, and that's okay. But I think that it is really sick that you would use the tragedy of the hurricane to try and make a political point. Do you even have any idea how reprehensible that even is? As usual, your facts are all mixed up. People on here who know the facts personally have tried to correct them for you, yet you still insist on turning the tragedies of innocent people into a flawed political analysis. This is NOT the time to point fingers, and this is not the place either. I'm not even going to respond specifically to any of your political comments because this is beyond politics. People have lost their entire lives and the only thing that should be on everyone's minds is getting them the help they need. That's it. There's nothing else that is as important.
The fact that you actually sympathize with the looters and are making excuses for them says a lot about you as a person. These people are nothing less than criminals taking advantage of a national disaster. The police should not have to worry about choosing between stopping their senseless crimes or saving lives. Yet that is what is happening. You make excuses for them, but the truth is that people are literally dying because law enforcement has to deal with them instead of focusing on helping people. Please, I am asking you to please, show just a little bit of responsibility when posting your "rants".
My heart goes out to everyone who has been affected by this terrible event. I am doing whatever I can to help, and I sincerely urge everyone to do the same. We can pull through this and rebuild if we all pull together as a nation. We are all Americans, this affects all of us. Thanks-
I think we all feel a need to rant at this point. I agree that someone should have made the decision to evacuate these people, and then given them the means to do so (busses, whatever), BEFORE the storm hit.
I heard a man say that he is sure that this will somehow affect the next election, but at this point in time he does not care how. He said that at this point in time his only concern is getting the stranded, sick, homeless, ect. to safety. I have to agree. This is no time to get political. This is a time to take into our own hands all the responsibility we can to do whatever we can to help our fellow man. There will be plenty of time for political debate later - let's get these people HELP!
I called to make reservations at a campground near us for three weeks from now and was told that three of KY's campgrounds have been reserved for the victims of Katrina throughout September. Kentucky! I thought that was great! I will gladly give up my camp space, or trip entirely, for that matter, to help, if it is possible. God bless these poor, innocent victims. And again, God bless every hand that reaches out to help!
To everything there is a season and a time to every purpose under heaven.
And yes, I do feel safe...I know that it isn't one man protecting us from harm, but many working together to do the very best that they can do to protect us all. I also know that God sees fit to test and try us, and we can bring glory to Him by working together and loving each other and doing all we can to see each other through, rather than continuing to tear each other down.
God bless!
I heard a man say that he is sure that this will somehow affect the next election, but at this point in time he does not care how. He said that at this point in time his only concern is getting the stranded, sick, homeless, ect. to safety. I have to agree. This is no time to get political. This is a time to take into our own hands all the responsibility we can to do whatever we can to help our fellow man. There will be plenty of time for political debate later - let's get these people HELP!
I called to make reservations at a campground near us for three weeks from now and was told that three of KY's campgrounds have been reserved for the victims of Katrina throughout September. Kentucky! I thought that was great! I will gladly give up my camp space, or trip entirely, for that matter, to help, if it is possible. God bless these poor, innocent victims. And again, God bless every hand that reaches out to help!
To everything there is a season and a time to every purpose under heaven.
And yes, I do feel safe...I know that it isn't one man protecting us from harm, but many working together to do the very best that they can do to protect us all. I also know that God sees fit to test and try us, and we can bring glory to Him by working together and loving each other and doing all we can to see each other through, rather than continuing to tear each other down.
God bless!
I would have to say that if I were in a situation such as this I would probably steal things in order to survive. By stating that I am in no way condoning the theft of guns or other items simply taken out of greed. When people are faced with such odds many times they do things they would think were unthinkable. There is a difference between looting and taking what you need to survive. I feel that what has happened in disgracful and in many cases worse then what happend on 9/11. This is our own people that have left them out to dry. The response time was horrible and I can garantee you that if it were an election year it would have been much better. I agree that this is a time when such things as politics shouldn't matter, but when it is clear that our government hasn't stepped up to the plate fast enough it simply can't be ignored.
Agreed that it is unfortunate the way this all fell (apart). My frustration lies in that everyone is so busy discussing the political points, but WHAT ELSE ARE THEY DOING TO HELP?????????????????
These people are suffering - who is opening their homes, who is opening their wallets, who is opening their hearts, WHO IS ON THEIR KNEES PRAYING???????????
I realize that everyone believes that President Bush should jump on AF1 with his AK-47, run over to Afghanistan and blow Bin Laden away, then jump on AF1 and run back to New Orleans and rescue all of the victims of Katrina single handedly. I guess I have to agree. He is doing nothing, while everyone is starving and dying in Louisiana. This is all completely and utterly George W. Bush's fault. The fact that the fedral government can not step in without being asked by state government to do so has nothing to do with it. The fact that state government didn't even try to evacuate those without the means or transportation to evacuate themselves means nothing. The fact that scientists have been warning the fedral government for years that this was coming and that they needed the funds to build the levee so that it wouldn't be this horrible means nothing. The fact that congress has to approve every move our president makes means nothing. It is totally Bush's responsibility and he should be hung out to dry for this mess! How dare he! Who does he think he is? I'm sure that what he is doing to help at this point is all about getting votes for the GOP in 2008. Why not?
By the way, where is Gore at durning this mess? Where is Hillary? Where are the rest of the big mouthed liberals who are busy trying to tear our country apart? Why aren't they busy trying to rebuild it now? Come on, Hillary, time for some campaigning, right? You are going to be our next president, aren't you? You were our last president, after all. Come on, give it another run! You did such a great job! You retaliated after the first bombing of the World Trade Center, and you kept it from happening again, right? You retaliated after the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole and protected us from future terrorism, didn't you? You protected us from 9/11, by sticking your head in the sand and pretending nothing was going to happen, it kept the terrorists away, didn't it? Why didn't you stop Katrina, Hillary? Mr. Gore? Rev. Sharpton?
What are you doing to help out? Come on, people, stop sitting on your butts complaining and get busy helping out! Ah, wait, it is MUCH easier to be an armchair quarterback, no? Get REAL!
These people are suffering - who is opening their homes, who is opening their wallets, who is opening their hearts, WHO IS ON THEIR KNEES PRAYING???????????
I realize that everyone believes that President Bush should jump on AF1 with his AK-47, run over to Afghanistan and blow Bin Laden away, then jump on AF1 and run back to New Orleans and rescue all of the victims of Katrina single handedly. I guess I have to agree. He is doing nothing, while everyone is starving and dying in Louisiana. This is all completely and utterly George W. Bush's fault. The fact that the fedral government can not step in without being asked by state government to do so has nothing to do with it. The fact that state government didn't even try to evacuate those without the means or transportation to evacuate themselves means nothing. The fact that scientists have been warning the fedral government for years that this was coming and that they needed the funds to build the levee so that it wouldn't be this horrible means nothing. The fact that congress has to approve every move our president makes means nothing. It is totally Bush's responsibility and he should be hung out to dry for this mess! How dare he! Who does he think he is? I'm sure that what he is doing to help at this point is all about getting votes for the GOP in 2008. Why not?
By the way, where is Gore at durning this mess? Where is Hillary? Where are the rest of the big mouthed liberals who are busy trying to tear our country apart? Why aren't they busy trying to rebuild it now? Come on, Hillary, time for some campaigning, right? You are going to be our next president, aren't you? You were our last president, after all. Come on, give it another run! You did such a great job! You retaliated after the first bombing of the World Trade Center, and you kept it from happening again, right? You retaliated after the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole and protected us from future terrorism, didn't you? You protected us from 9/11, by sticking your head in the sand and pretending nothing was going to happen, it kept the terrorists away, didn't it? Why didn't you stop Katrina, Hillary? Mr. Gore? Rev. Sharpton?
What are you doing to help out? Come on, people, stop sitting on your butts complaining and get busy helping out! Ah, wait, it is MUCH easier to be an armchair quarterback, no? Get REAL!
"By the way, where is Gore at during this mess? Where is Hillary? Where are the rest of the big mouthed liberals who are busy trying to tear our country apart?"
Umm...here's what Al Gore has been doing.
"The Crawfords were among more than 100 Katrina victims from New Orleans — half of them unable to walk by themselves — who received medical help at Middle Tennessee hospitals yesterday. Another 130 hospital patients and evacuees from New Orleans arrived in East Tennessee yesterday afternoon on a flight arranged by former Vice President Al Gore."
I heard on CNN that he had not only arranged for the flight, but had set up a private fleet of ambulances to transport the evacuaees from the airport to the hospitals. One "big mouth liberal" trying to rebuild his country.
I understand you're angry KYDZfan, but a rant like that helps no one, it just polarizes us.
Umm...here's what Al Gore has been doing.
"The Crawfords were among more than 100 Katrina victims from New Orleans — half of them unable to walk by themselves — who received medical help at Middle Tennessee hospitals yesterday. Another 130 hospital patients and evacuees from New Orleans arrived in East Tennessee yesterday afternoon on a flight arranged by former Vice President Al Gore."
I heard on CNN that he had not only arranged for the flight, but had set up a private fleet of ambulances to transport the evacuaees from the airport to the hospitals. One "big mouth liberal" trying to rebuild his country.
I understand you're angry KYDZfan, but a rant like that helps no one, it just polarizes us.
Right, and that would be my point. Check my previous posts to see what I have been doing to help others in need. I'm just wondering about what others who are busy with their political agendas are doing to help. You think my rant is bad, you should hear what my husband has to say. I wholey respect and support his opinion, and am voicing mine, the same as others have voiced theirs. Again, let me say, I pray for blessings for all who are in need and for all who do their best to help and for all who lift this nation up in prayer during this trying time.
God bless!
God bless!
Is there a law of physics somewhere that says if someone disagrees with their government, they aren't doing anything to help? Only one or the other, huh? Don't question your government = (equals) helping. Questioning how your government is carrying out their responsility to this country = (equals) not doing anything at all. If I question why the response time was slow, that automatically means I haven't donated. It's impossible to do both, I guess.
In keeping with your tone: Okay, Bush shouldn't have to do anything. After all, he was on vacation. He "works hard" and deserves time off. Monday and Tuesday? He was at a fundraiser in San Diego. He played golf. He played the guitar. He visited Arizona. See how busy he is all the time? Those people who are stranded and trapped without food or water can wait until Thursday when he's back at work. If not, let somebody else take care of it. Like the Clintons (after all, everything is their fault anyway). Yeh, that's it. It's Hillary's responsibility, not the president's. It's not his job. And if it were, he shouldn't be expected to take charge, to be responsible. If no one else steps up to take charge, to take control -- even if it is their job -- well, those people in New Orleans were warned on Saturday to leave town so it's their fault. And the 150 hospitals, several hundred nursing homes? It's their fault for not leaving. If somebody else (meaning Hillary) doesn't take care of them, then Bush will put together a committee and have a report on his desk by Friday. People always complain when they've been sitting through long wet nights in the dark -- on rooftops in the middle of stagnant water -- and are dying of thirst. Sheesh.
Why are you criticizing someone (like me) who is angry that there was a 3-day delay to rescue dying citizens? Is that helping them?
Okay, now to try to express why I'm so angry. If you're not going to bother considering what I say with an open mind, just quit here. You're wasting your time anyway, right?
If we don't examine the timeline and the chain of responsibility right here and right now, how are we going to handle the next disaster, which could come tomorrow in your area, for all we know?
If we don't learn from our mistakes, and take the means to correct them, the next hurricane or earthquake or terrorist attack will have the same dire consequences. That's what leaders do: They determine the problems and solve them. Or they can wait for a congressional committee to be convened sometime next year, and wait a year for their hearings and findings. And another year for someone to reorganize all of the president's cabinet departments...
The only way we can learn is to first of all admit that the response was not acceptable. And do it now. The whole country -- the whole world -- has already said it. If our government leaders can't admit it, and take the steps to investigate and remedy it immediately, we are not safe.
In keeping with your tone: Okay, Bush shouldn't have to do anything. After all, he was on vacation. He "works hard" and deserves time off. Monday and Tuesday? He was at a fundraiser in San Diego. He played golf. He played the guitar. He visited Arizona. See how busy he is all the time? Those people who are stranded and trapped without food or water can wait until Thursday when he's back at work. If not, let somebody else take care of it. Like the Clintons (after all, everything is their fault anyway). Yeh, that's it. It's Hillary's responsibility, not the president's. It's not his job. And if it were, he shouldn't be expected to take charge, to be responsible. If no one else steps up to take charge, to take control -- even if it is their job -- well, those people in New Orleans were warned on Saturday to leave town so it's their fault. And the 150 hospitals, several hundred nursing homes? It's their fault for not leaving. If somebody else (meaning Hillary) doesn't take care of them, then Bush will put together a committee and have a report on his desk by Friday. People always complain when they've been sitting through long wet nights in the dark -- on rooftops in the middle of stagnant water -- and are dying of thirst. Sheesh.
Why are you criticizing someone (like me) who is angry that there was a 3-day delay to rescue dying citizens? Is that helping them?
Okay, now to try to express why I'm so angry. If you're not going to bother considering what I say with an open mind, just quit here. You're wasting your time anyway, right?
If we don't examine the timeline and the chain of responsibility right here and right now, how are we going to handle the next disaster, which could come tomorrow in your area, for all we know?
If we don't learn from our mistakes, and take the means to correct them, the next hurricane or earthquake or terrorist attack will have the same dire consequences. That's what leaders do: They determine the problems and solve them. Or they can wait for a congressional committee to be convened sometime next year, and wait a year for their hearings and findings. And another year for someone to reorganize all of the president's cabinet departments...
The only way we can learn is to first of all admit that the response was not acceptable. And do it now. The whole country -- the whole world -- has already said it. If our government leaders can't admit it, and take the steps to investigate and remedy it immediately, we are not safe.
I didn't say that disagreeing with your government meant that you weren't helping. What I asked is WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO HELP? And again I pose the question!
By the way, I wasn't criticizing you. You took it that way. I wonder why?
You state that I need to be open minded. Am I the only one who needs to open my mind to other ideas and beliefs and truths? I feel that is a one-sided comment in and of it's own. Am I not open minded because I refuse to buy into the bull malarky that the liberal media feeds to us as "facts"? As I said before, if we were given more FACTS - I believe we are intelligent enough to make up our own minds about how we feel. But there are very few facts thrown in with a great number of opinions in our "news" these days.
Check my other posts again - I believe I stated that I didn't understand why someone didn't HELP EVACUATE THOSE WHO WERE UNABLE TO EVACUATE THEMSELVES. Why weren't buses sent in, something? I also believe that I stated that scientists had been warning of this for quite a while, trying to get the funds to prevent it. What I didn't do is to lay all the blame squarely on President Bush's shoulders.
I am sure that our government including our President will be trying to decide what needs to be done to prevent this type of delay in the future - AFTER everyone is rescued and out of harms way. Again, the time for this IS NOT right this minute, RIGHT THIS MINUTE, IT IS TIME TO TAKE ACTION TO CARE FOR, PLACE, FEED, AND SAVE THE VICTIMS. Which, if I am not mistaken, according to the "news", the National Gaurd, FEMA, and many others are trying VERY HARD to do. Yes, we need to take a look at what went wrong, but we also need to remember to be thankful for those who are putting their lives on the line (in many ways), giving their time, their resources and themselves to help make things as bearable and liveable and easy as possible for those in need.
Funny to me that I have stood up for you in other situations and that was all good and okay. But now that I have a difference of opinion, you want to try to make me look like a bad guy. Well, whatever floats your boat. Reminds me of some others who enjoy that type of thing. As for me, I know what I have done to help, what I need to do to continue to help, and that playing politics isn't doing anything to help, and so, have fun with your CNN opinions. I won't be wasting anymore of your time or mine with this ignorant debate.
God bless!
By the way, I wasn't criticizing you. You took it that way. I wonder why?
You state that I need to be open minded. Am I the only one who needs to open my mind to other ideas and beliefs and truths? I feel that is a one-sided comment in and of it's own. Am I not open minded because I refuse to buy into the bull malarky that the liberal media feeds to us as "facts"? As I said before, if we were given more FACTS - I believe we are intelligent enough to make up our own minds about how we feel. But there are very few facts thrown in with a great number of opinions in our "news" these days.
Check my other posts again - I believe I stated that I didn't understand why someone didn't HELP EVACUATE THOSE WHO WERE UNABLE TO EVACUATE THEMSELVES. Why weren't buses sent in, something? I also believe that I stated that scientists had been warning of this for quite a while, trying to get the funds to prevent it. What I didn't do is to lay all the blame squarely on President Bush's shoulders.
I am sure that our government including our President will be trying to decide what needs to be done to prevent this type of delay in the future - AFTER everyone is rescued and out of harms way. Again, the time for this IS NOT right this minute, RIGHT THIS MINUTE, IT IS TIME TO TAKE ACTION TO CARE FOR, PLACE, FEED, AND SAVE THE VICTIMS. Which, if I am not mistaken, according to the "news", the National Gaurd, FEMA, and many others are trying VERY HARD to do. Yes, we need to take a look at what went wrong, but we also need to remember to be thankful for those who are putting their lives on the line (in many ways), giving their time, their resources and themselves to help make things as bearable and liveable and easy as possible for those in need.
Funny to me that I have stood up for you in other situations and that was all good and okay. But now that I have a difference of opinion, you want to try to make me look like a bad guy. Well, whatever floats your boat. Reminds me of some others who enjoy that type of thing. As for me, I know what I have done to help, what I need to do to continue to help, and that playing politics isn't doing anything to help, and so, have fun with your CNN opinions. I won't be wasting anymore of your time or mine with this ignorant debate.
God bless!
Alright...bear with me...Heres what I as a United states national guard soldier knows about katrina:
1. Natural disasters suck.
2. A ****-load of National Guardsmen and women are overseas fighting already; which means i better prepare MYSELF to head BACK to the east coast.
3.Alot of people are panicked, shocked, and aren't acting right.
4. WE're under fire by some of the people we're trying to help.
I didn't train to sit back and watch people fall out. I trained to help. Besides, i miss sleeping on my rickety old cot and being constipated from eating MRES 24/7.
Just kidding, but you know, if you want to help, help. think everyones helping by just saying a prayer for everyone affected by Katrina. If we weren't working together, it woud be alot harder to accomplish helping these people.
We'll clean it up. HOOAAH!!!!!
1. Natural disasters suck.
2. A ****-load of National Guardsmen and women are overseas fighting already; which means i better prepare MYSELF to head BACK to the east coast.
3.Alot of people are panicked, shocked, and aren't acting right.
4. WE're under fire by some of the people we're trying to help.
I didn't train to sit back and watch people fall out. I trained to help. Besides, i miss sleeping on my rickety old cot and being constipated from eating MRES 24/7.
Just kidding, but you know, if you want to help, help. think everyones helping by just saying a prayer for everyone affected by Katrina. If we weren't working together, it woud be alot harder to accomplish helping these people.
We'll clean it up. HOOAAH!!!!!
Thank you so very much for what you are doing. Both here and afar. I can not tell you how very much it means to me to know that men and women like yourself are there to "come to the rescue" in the aftermath of any such horrible event. God bless you for your efforts, caring and hard work! I'm sure that each of you is adding some major jewels to your crowns with this situation!
I am so sorry that people are firing on you guys. I can't comprehend their reasoning, but I am sure that with all the trauma they have been through, there is some valid reason, if only in their own minds. I hope they soon realize that shooting down their help is not going to make things better any faster. I will pray for your safety, also.
I'm glad you've missed that cot and the MRES - sounds like you are getting ready to go back to the life you love (NOT!) LOL! I hope that there are bright spots in each day you are there that will make it worthwhile for you.
As a sidenote, just one opinion that was asked about by a young girl in a previous post - as far as the looting goes, I agree that I think much of it is for food, water, and needs. I know that there are some who will take advantage and go for the jewlery, electronics, ect. But I really was heart-broken when I saw a woman and young girl on the news the other night, covering their faces with loaves of bread so that they wouldn't be recognized and prosecuted later for trying to get food to live on. How can someone be punished for trying to live??? That's just my opinion.
God bless!
I am so sorry that people are firing on you guys. I can't comprehend their reasoning, but I am sure that with all the trauma they have been through, there is some valid reason, if only in their own minds. I hope they soon realize that shooting down their help is not going to make things better any faster. I will pray for your safety, also.
I'm glad you've missed that cot and the MRES - sounds like you are getting ready to go back to the life you love (NOT!) LOL! I hope that there are bright spots in each day you are there that will make it worthwhile for you.
As a sidenote, just one opinion that was asked about by a young girl in a previous post - as far as the looting goes, I agree that I think much of it is for food, water, and needs. I know that there are some who will take advantage and go for the jewlery, electronics, ect. But I really was heart-broken when I saw a woman and young girl on the news the other night, covering their faces with loaves of bread so that they wouldn't be recognized and prosecuted later for trying to get food to live on. How can someone be punished for trying to live??? That's just my opinion.
God bless!
Quote:I have donated to 3 different organizations collecting to help with the rescue and relief and also for helping the survivors start a new life.
I didn't say that disagreeing with your government meant that you weren't helping. What I asked is WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO HELP? And again I pose the question!
Quote:I really did think you were criticizing me mainly because I complained that the response by the government took so long. You had an awful lot of ALL CAPS and exclamation points, so it sure looked like you were angry at anyone who was criticizing the response. I apologize for taking your comments the wrong way.
By the way, I wasn't criticizing you. You took it that way. I wonder why?
Quote:Since you didn't give any examples, I'm not sure what you mean. As far as malarky by the media, just looking at the images -- as I have been doing nearly non-stop since last Monday (8/29) -- you see all you need to know. Besides, the media has been fantastic IMO. The media were in all the areas immediately on Monday, and, yes, they were wondering why, if they could get crews in to photograph the aftermath, why the government couldn't get in rescuers until THURSDAY! (To be fair, a few trickled in on Wednesday, but certainly not enough to save THOUSANDS of people who were DYING.) Those are facts that I saw in the images Monday thru Friday of last week, as well as words from the survivors themselves as well as other witnesses. In contrast, the poor countries in Indonesia got rescuers into many of the areas the day after the tsunami, and food & supplies 2 days later. Does this seem right to you?
You state that I need to be open minded. Am I the only one who needs to open my mind to other ideas and beliefs and truths? I feel that is a one-sided comment in and of it's own. Am I not open minded because I refuse to buy into the bull malarky that the liberal media feeds to us as "facts"? As I said before, if we were given more FACTS - I believe we are intelligent enough to make up our own minds about how we feel. But there are very few facts thrown in with a great number of opinions in our "news" these days.
Also, IMO, if it weren't for the media, the government might have been even slower to react. And also, the media are not liberal. They have withheld many facts about the war in Iraq that would be damaging to the Bush administration. There have been several who were fired or who quit because they wanted to report the truth, but the corporation conglomerates that own them didn't want them to. I would be glad to discuss that issue with anyone privately or at another time/place.
Quote:I disagree. Now is the time. Bush can appoint someone to investigate while relief is ongoing. Being in an earthquake zone (and everyone is vulnerable to terrorism), I am concerned about my children and myself TODAY.
I am sure that our government including our President will be trying to decide what needs to be done to prevent this type of delay in the future - AFTER everyone is rescued and out of harms way. Again, the time for this IS NOT right this minute, RIGHT THIS MINUTE, IT IS TIME TO TAKE ACTION TO CARE FOR, PLACE, FEED, AND SAVE THE VICTIMS. Which, if I am not mistaken, according to the "news", the National Gaurd, FEMA, and many others are trying VERY HARD to do.
Quote:I AM NOT trying to make you look like the "bad guy". I appreciate your honesty and strength in all your posts, whether you're supporting something I say or not. You have always posted from the heart, and I admire your sincerity. I was confused about why, if you wanted to express concern about the victims, you would even bring up Gore and the Clintons. That seemed pretty political considering that they are not responsible for the situation.
Funny to me that I have stood up for you in other situations and that was all good and okay. But now that I have a difference of opinion, you want to try to make me look like a bad guy. Well, whatever floats your boat. Reminds me of some others who enjoy that type of thing. As for me, I know what I have done to help, what I need to do to continue to help, and that playing politics isn't doing anything to help, and so, have fun with your CNN opinions. I won't be wasting anymore of your time or mine with this ignorant debate.
God bless!
As far as bringing politics into this, it seems really strange that the Republican governor of Mississippi got National Guard and relief & rescue personnel and supplies on Monday; the Democratic governor and mayor of Louisiana and New Orleans were begging the federal government as early as the previous Saturday for assistance. They got it 4 days later, and not enough. This is based on interviews with all 3 in their own words. A WalMart semi-tractor trailer full of donated bottled water showed up outside of New Orleans on Tuesday or Wednesday; FEMA turned it away. This is based on an interview with a WalMart representative. Food was airlifted into a military base on Tuesday; FEMA didn't begin distributing it to New Orleans until Thursday. This is based on photos taken by 3 different networks. Just a couple examples of the bureacratic mistakes and tragic decisions we need to investigate.
We all need to do 2 things: Whatever we can to help the victims; and pressure our political representatives to do what they can to keep us safe.
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And thevup, thank you for posting. More importantly, THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart for everything you are doing -- have done -- and will be doing for this country. I deeply hope you understand that you are very very much appreciated. The horrible conditions you and your brothers and sisters are enduring are no doubt beyond my comprehension, but not beyond my appreciation. I do feel I can safely say that you are loved by all Americans who care about what is happening in the world today.
Please take care of yourself, physically, emotionally, and mentally.
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You had an awful lot of ALL CAPS and exclamation points, so it sure looked like you were angry at anyone who was criticizing the response. I apologize for taking your comments the wrong way.
I use all caps rather than italics or bold mainly out of laziness, to be honest. And I am using them to express frustration, not with anyone in particular, but with this horrible, horrible situation. NO ONE should have to endure this kind of thing. Not in a fair and perfect world. In my heart, that is what I want, for it to all be fixed and okay. I am saddend, deeply saddend by all that needs to be done and how little I personally am able to do. I wish I could fix it, and my heart aches that there isn't more that I can do.
I am frustrated because I see how many men and women are going in and rescuing families, one by one. How long must that take? It might not be too bad if you are the first family rescued, but if you are number 200, then it starts to look very bleak. But I imagine there are only so many helicopters and boats that can be brought in at a time to conduct these rescues. I can't imagine the chaos of the situation and am very thankful that I am not in a position to have to organize it. I would fail miserably, no doubt.
It might make you glad to know that President Bush has called for a report on what was/is lacking in this rescue operation. Presumeably to begin to rectify the situation.
I am appalled that FEMA would turn water away. I don't understand why. But then, I was also offended that FEMA and others were asking for monetary donations only. I heard that lunch one day for the refugees was 4 or 5 raviolis and some water. Don't tell me that they don't need food. Why would anyone turn away ANY type of help??? I know they needed the money, too, but why not also take the food, so that is one less thing for them to have to spend the money on????
Yes, I am frustrated, no, it was not with you. However, I do think that many people place too much of the blame on one man's shoulders. My point in ranting was that if we can't blame the Clintons or the Gores or the Sharptons for disasters that we have dealt with in the past, things that they could have at least tried to prevent had they done things differently, then we can't lay all of the blame for this squarely on President Bush. Just like the scientists asking for funds to re-inforce the levee, I doubt President Bush was any part of that, but you can believe that our Congress and House of Representatives knew about it. They are too busy giving themselves raises to be concerned about giving money to protect the sick, poor and non-contributors, IMO. That is both the Republicans and Democrats in the House and Congress.
The reason I brought up Gore and the Clintons is because everyone keeps saying this is political, and though I think it has become political, I think there is more to it than meets the eye. I refuse to say anything else on that subject because it doesn't help, only hurt. I will save what I have to say about it until the victims are all rescued and safe and rebuilding has begun.
I will say this, though, I do agree that response time was not what it should have been. Would it have been better had all of our uniformed young men and women been here? Possibly. Hubby thinks that we should now yank all the troups out of Iraq and let them figure out what they need to do for themselves, tell them we are taking half the oil with us and we have a bomb ready if they don't like it. I myself can't help but think, isn't that how the Taliban got started, we helped them just enough to (?), then left them high and dry to figure it out for themselves, and from that, we get September 11....so, what are the right answers, I'm sure I don't know. I say, let's stop pointing fingers at each other, roll up our sleeves and try to figure out the truely RIGHT thing to do, and then, all together, stick it out until it is done right. I just don't think there are enough people in power with enough common sense to do it these days. But, that's only my opinion.
I apologize that my capital letters made you feel that I was yelling at you. I was yelling, no doubt about that. But no, not at all at you. With you, maybe in a different direction, but with you.
God bless!
Ah c'mon now, Your gonna make me cry happy tears here in a minute. Its not a big thing we're doing, just our jobs.
And for this next statement i will fight to the death for...If it weren't for YOU. The people at home-well, most of the people at home-our families, friends, people writing us letters, and encouraging words, boosting our morale-we don't want to be here anymore than you would, but to hear that someone who you've never reached out and shaken hands with say 'thank you', or even 'hey, we love ya guys', i've seen soldier's faces light up with something on the verge of sadness and joy at getting a freakin' junk mail letter-it just makes us more prouder to wear our two-peice suits.(camoflauge uniforms) to know and see and hold the proof in our hands that YES! SOMEBODY DOES CARE ABOUT ME BEING HERE RISKING MY LIFE AND MY SAFETY FOR THIERS
The next to hardest thing besides being in the army is being in love with a marine recruit-let me tell ya...but thats a different kind of "human-sacrifice" if you get my drift-lol...
And for this next statement i will fight to the death for...If it weren't for YOU. The people at home-well, most of the people at home-our families, friends, people writing us letters, and encouraging words, boosting our morale-we don't want to be here anymore than you would, but to hear that someone who you've never reached out and shaken hands with say 'thank you', or even 'hey, we love ya guys', i've seen soldier's faces light up with something on the verge of sadness and joy at getting a freakin' junk mail letter-it just makes us more prouder to wear our two-peice suits.(camoflauge uniforms) to know and see and hold the proof in our hands that YES! SOMEBODY DOES CARE ABOUT ME BEING HERE RISKING MY LIFE AND MY SAFETY FOR THIERS
The next to hardest thing besides being in the army is being in love with a marine recruit-let me tell ya...but thats a different kind of "human-sacrifice" if you get my drift-lol...
Ah, now there's a story I could sink my teeth into...so, do tell, is he in love with you back? *crosses fingers for a yes* Well, I wish you all the happiness in the world with this love! Ain't nothing better, ain't nothing worse!
*Just read the "Barry Sarcastic" post - guess I got my answer, sooo....CONGRATS!*
I am often embarassed when I see soldiers in their uniforms, for me it's a lot like seeing a star face to face. I feel so unworthy to be in the presence of such great human beings. I know that you guys are just people like the rest of us, but somehow just bigger than life, in my eyes, anyway. I feel the same way about fire and rescue workers. My heart always swells with pride to see you guys and know the sacrafices that come with the jobs, and the wonder of it all that you would choose to protect and defend us, me, my friends and family, my babies. THANK YOU! From the bottom of my heart - THANK YOU!
Having said that, it reminds me that back during the 4th of July, we went to a parade held in our little town. They of course had the veteran's float. I just wanted to go hug one of those old fellas and say thank you to them, but I wasn't sure how I would be received. (As crazy, most likely!) My heart just broke at the thought of what these men must have gone through. But then I had this thought that at the time, they weren't these poor old men with walkers. They were young and strong, and most likely, smoking cigarettes, reading girly magazines, and playing poker in their spare time. That kind of made me giggle. But still, I have the utmost respect for them, whatever they were doing while they weren't busy fighting for our freedoms! LOL!
Um, back a little while ago you said there is a web site where you can get a soldier pen-pal. I never did do it, because I often think there are so many people probably writing and that my letters would be so boring and not worth much, but if you really think that someone would like for me to write, I will. Can you give us the web site again?
God bless you, Spuddie! And please do keep us posted on where you are and how all is going. Take care of yourself!
*Just read the "Barry Sarcastic" post - guess I got my answer, sooo....CONGRATS!*
I am often embarassed when I see soldiers in their uniforms, for me it's a lot like seeing a star face to face. I feel so unworthy to be in the presence of such great human beings. I know that you guys are just people like the rest of us, but somehow just bigger than life, in my eyes, anyway. I feel the same way about fire and rescue workers. My heart always swells with pride to see you guys and know the sacrafices that come with the jobs, and the wonder of it all that you would choose to protect and defend us, me, my friends and family, my babies. THANK YOU! From the bottom of my heart - THANK YOU!
Having said that, it reminds me that back during the 4th of July, we went to a parade held in our little town. They of course had the veteran's float. I just wanted to go hug one of those old fellas and say thank you to them, but I wasn't sure how I would be received. (As crazy, most likely!) My heart just broke at the thought of what these men must have gone through. But then I had this thought that at the time, they weren't these poor old men with walkers. They were young and strong, and most likely, smoking cigarettes, reading girly magazines, and playing poker in their spare time. That kind of made me giggle. But still, I have the utmost respect for them, whatever they were doing while they weren't busy fighting for our freedoms! LOL!
Um, back a little while ago you said there is a web site where you can get a soldier pen-pal. I never did do it, because I often think there are so many people probably writing and that my letters would be so boring and not worth much, but if you really think that someone would like for me to write, I will. Can you give us the web site again?
God bless you, Spuddie! And please do keep us posted on where you are and how all is going. Take care of yourself!
Geez, i really appreciate that. We are always told that we're doing a thankless job because we're going there on teh frontline so fthe battlefield and doing things that thankfully no civilians will have to do. They say that i stand behind my country, but as a fellow soldier of mine put it- I don't stand behind my country. I stand in front of her, and i will fight for her, and i fight for you. And i am damn proud to be blessed with that responsibility.
If you would like to support our soldiers with Letters/carepackages here are two websites:
www.troopfanmail.net
and
http://www.stripes.com/webpages.asp?id=53
the above link at stripes.com will give you a list of websites you can browse through. Otherwise its just a paper.
My sister has sent out over 3,000 letters to our troops and we have well over 300,000 troops...you would be surprised to hear how many of us don't get mail regularly. Its not unheard of for some parents or families to shy away from writing thier sons and daughters because they are in the military. Its a hard life to live, especailly if your regular army becuase the only regret you really have is if you die you make a bunch of people sad. We fight how we train so we train like a motherfracker so when the real thing comes we overcome it and not the other way around.
When you get mail-even just reading your post-you have NO IDEA how much you boost a soldiers morale. Getting letters like that from people we defend everyday really makes us feel good and makes us want to do things a bit better than we might have had we not recieved your letter-so you know it makes a difference.
Thank you so much for your support.
NOW AS FAR AS ME AND THE MARINE...
..Well, let me put it this way-i don't give my heart out easily, or to just anyone, but this guy must've set a tripwire for me or something because he swept me off my feet when i wasn't looking! LOL-its true! We had a cup of coffee and saw a movie and then we went on a picnic the next day. Hes such a sweetheart, i mean, i was sitting there driving with him and we were alone and i wa sjust thinking- my god, i'm comfortable with him. I feel safe. And you know he didn't try anything funny with me. I hugged him once but that was about it. But it was good because 2 days would be moving really fast don't ya think?
I admit i need some advice becuase hes really the first guy thats not had anything really wrong with him...yet. I mean, hes not weird, he doesn't wear pink boots in public to try and impress me...he isn't really possessive of me...i just might be breaking the streak. Maybe he mistaked me for someone else-lol! but yeah...we sat and talked for hours, watched a movie and had too much popcorn...and hes so gentle, he makes me feel pretty ALL THE TIME. yeah...i'd better stop talking right now...too mushy! eeeww!
If you would like to support our soldiers with Letters/carepackages here are two websites:
www.troopfanmail.net
and
http://www.stripes.com/webpages.asp?id=53
the above link at stripes.com will give you a list of websites you can browse through. Otherwise its just a paper.
My sister has sent out over 3,000 letters to our troops and we have well over 300,000 troops...you would be surprised to hear how many of us don't get mail regularly. Its not unheard of for some parents or families to shy away from writing thier sons and daughters because they are in the military. Its a hard life to live, especailly if your regular army becuase the only regret you really have is if you die you make a bunch of people sad. We fight how we train so we train like a motherfracker so when the real thing comes we overcome it and not the other way around.
When you get mail-even just reading your post-you have NO IDEA how much you boost a soldiers morale. Getting letters like that from people we defend everyday really makes us feel good and makes us want to do things a bit better than we might have had we not recieved your letter-so you know it makes a difference.
Thank you so much for your support.
NOW AS FAR AS ME AND THE MARINE...
..Well, let me put it this way-i don't give my heart out easily, or to just anyone, but this guy must've set a tripwire for me or something because he swept me off my feet when i wasn't looking! LOL-its true! We had a cup of coffee and saw a movie and then we went on a picnic the next day. Hes such a sweetheart, i mean, i was sitting there driving with him and we were alone and i wa sjust thinking- my god, i'm comfortable with him. I feel safe. And you know he didn't try anything funny with me. I hugged him once but that was about it. But it was good because 2 days would be moving really fast don't ya think?
I admit i need some advice becuase hes really the first guy thats not had anything really wrong with him...yet. I mean, hes not weird, he doesn't wear pink boots in public to try and impress me...he isn't really possessive of me...i just might be breaking the streak. Maybe he mistaked me for someone else-lol! but yeah...we sat and talked for hours, watched a movie and had too much popcorn...and hes so gentle, he makes me feel pretty ALL THE TIME. yeah...i'd better stop talking right now...too mushy! eeeww!
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2121024993
Can you see these pictures? This is me and my DS, and the otehr is MY CLASS PICTURE!!!! I'll be posting somemore soon, if i can connect my scanner back up without craching my computer...theres a few-the day spongebob went to war, me in my full battlerattle...me with a battlebuddy, or two...me in the front lean and rest aka the push-up position...you know...lots of good stuff you might like...
Can you see these pictures? This is me and my DS, and the otehr is MY CLASS PICTURE!!!! I'll be posting somemore soon, if i can connect my scanner back up without craching my computer...theres a few-the day spongebob went to war, me in my full battlerattle...me with a battlebuddy, or two...me in the front lean and rest aka the push-up position...you know...lots of good stuff you might like...
Aren't you just cute! I don't know what I expected, but that isn't what I thought you'd look like at all - probably a lot bigger, you know, from eating all those mashed potatoes and stuff! Hee hee! I really enjoyed those, and would love to see more. Let us know when you get them uploaded.
I will be adding the links you gave to me to my favorites and will sit down tonight to write my first letter. Thanks for those links.
My advice for the love life is to go for it. If it comes easy, and it's someone you can consider your best friend, it's sure to be a good thing. When I met my hubby, we were best friends for about 4 months before moving onto a relationship. I didn't even think I wanted a relationship with him for sure, but he knew. He put up with me hem-hawing around for a while, and one day I opened my eyes and realized that he was so kind, and honest, and wonderful, and if I passed up that opportunity, I wasn't sure I'd ever find one like that again. (Oh, and hubby makes me feel beautiful, too, even on my bandanna and sweatpants days!) I do wish you the very best of love with this fellow. Sounds like you've got your head screwed on straight. I think that's an important first step in having a good relationship!
Well, thanks again for the links, and keep us posted on how you're doing! God bless!
I will be adding the links you gave to me to my favorites and will sit down tonight to write my first letter. Thanks for those links.
My advice for the love life is to go for it. If it comes easy, and it's someone you can consider your best friend, it's sure to be a good thing. When I met my hubby, we were best friends for about 4 months before moving onto a relationship. I didn't even think I wanted a relationship with him for sure, but he knew. He put up with me hem-hawing around for a while, and one day I opened my eyes and realized that he was so kind, and honest, and wonderful, and if I passed up that opportunity, I wasn't sure I'd ever find one like that again. (Oh, and hubby makes me feel beautiful, too, even on my bandanna and sweatpants days!) I do wish you the very best of love with this fellow. Sounds like you've got your head screwed on straight. I think that's an important first step in having a good relationship!
Well, thanks again for the links, and keep us posted on how you're doing! God bless!
Thank you for writing to my brothers and sisters in arms. I myself am being transferred to a unit thats heading to texas for 8 months of training and then to Iraq or Afghanistan and a friend of mine is leaving for Afghanistan in feb. So, your support will not go unthanked, or uncherished. We all send you guys hugs and good wishes.
YEah, i'll upload more tomorrow after i get home. I made a promise to my coworkers when i quit my job for the army(including my boss)that when i got home, i'd go visit them, and maybe go out for Mama's pizza, so...yeah.
Thanks so much for your advice on my guy-friend. I miss Andrew ALOT. I especially wished he was here today when a 'friend' of mine insulted my integrity. Apparently, he'd 'heard' that we were doing some things that we really weren't doing, and it hurt my feelings because i know this friend of mine knows better.
welp, i better go work on uploading those pictures...
thank you so much again! Please Pray for our troops and the "displaced citizens" safety!
YEah, i'll upload more tomorrow after i get home. I made a promise to my coworkers when i quit my job for the army(including my boss)that when i got home, i'd go visit them, and maybe go out for Mama's pizza, so...yeah.
Thanks so much for your advice on my guy-friend. I miss Andrew ALOT. I especially wished he was here today when a 'friend' of mine insulted my integrity. Apparently, he'd 'heard' that we were doing some things that we really weren't doing, and it hurt my feelings because i know this friend of mine knows better.
welp, i better go work on uploading those pictures...
thank you so much again! Please Pray for our troops and the "displaced citizens" safety!
just a quick note letting you know i uploaded a few more pics...not of me in bdus-of post the guidon...me and my roomie, and me and my friend/battlebuddy, and then one of me and my sis and her guy...(i'm superwoman)-oh, and two of me in my class b's. One in front of a tree, and the other in the car with flowers...
Quote:Are you kidding me????!!!! This is our little Spud? OMG, you're so, so, wow, you're really pretty! I pictured you with braces and pigtails and freckles, but you're a full grown woman and you look great in uniform!
God bless you, Spuddie! And please do keep us posted on where you are and how all is going. Take care of yourself!
We love you, Jean! (Oh, that's right, your mom calls you Jean -- okay, I mean... WE LOVE YOU SPUDDIE!)
How's the mashed potatoes in the mess?
Take care of yourself, and good luck with your fella. He sounds wonderful!
Ooops, forgot to add a thank you for the websites for penpals. I'm outa town right now, but intend to get into it when I get back.
Take care.
Take care.
GOOD LORD?!!! THOSE were MASHED POTATOES?!?!?!?! I could've sworn that shi-errr...that...Stuff was playdough...
ME? "REALLY PRETTY?!"-DAMN! Now, how am i supposed to shock the enemy for 5 extra seconds to reload my magazine or get them to surrender-OR generally scare them when i supposedly have "goodlooks"?!?!?!-You really shouldn't spread such awful rumors...its not nice. (just kidding)
THANK YOU! Your too kind. You can see the freckles if you look close enough.
your memories, your kindness, your prayers, thoughts, and warm words of encouragement-and sometimes of stern advice (herr cowboy, Dankeschon,) kept me going, adn challenged me to push harder and gave me more drive to succeed during training. The rewards were getting to read more notes from you. It was beyond heaven. i work this weekend. WISH ME LUCK! I WISH YOU LOVE!
ME? "REALLY PRETTY?!"-DAMN! Now, how am i supposed to shock the enemy for 5 extra seconds to reload my magazine or get them to surrender-OR generally scare them when i supposedly have "goodlooks"?!?!?!-You really shouldn't spread such awful rumors...its not nice. (just kidding)
THANK YOU! Your too kind. You can see the freckles if you look close enough.
your memories, your kindness, your prayers, thoughts, and warm words of encouragement-and sometimes of stern advice (herr cowboy, Dankeschon,) kept me going, adn challenged me to push harder and gave me more drive to succeed during training. The rewards were getting to read more notes from you. It was beyond heaven. i work this weekend. WISH ME LUCK! I WISH YOU LOVE!
Hi,
I just wanted to share this. Some folks from my church went on a short-term mission trip 2 weeks ago to New Orleans to help out with some much needed work on some of the homes there, and they did a presentation today during the service. I was just appalled at how some of the areas down there are still in such desperate shape. There are still areas with no electric, etc, - many of the homes have been abandoned because they need so much work to remove mud and trashed belongings. It took 19 people 2 1/2 days to empty out 1 home for 1 family. Everything that was inside had to be discarded- the walls were down to the studs. There is no one helping out in these areas except for volunteers, many from churches around the US - these people are desperate still and hopeless. I'm speechless (almost..) that there is no aid in these areas to help restore these people's homes and livelihoods. One of the members of our team said he thought it would be like 10 years before New Orleans would be restored to the way it was. I just don't know why that is. This is on my heart today and I wanted to share it with everyone.
I just wanted to share this. Some folks from my church went on a short-term mission trip 2 weeks ago to New Orleans to help out with some much needed work on some of the homes there, and they did a presentation today during the service. I was just appalled at how some of the areas down there are still in such desperate shape. There are still areas with no electric, etc, - many of the homes have been abandoned because they need so much work to remove mud and trashed belongings. It took 19 people 2 1/2 days to empty out 1 home for 1 family. Everything that was inside had to be discarded- the walls were down to the studs. There is no one helping out in these areas except for volunteers, many from churches around the US - these people are desperate still and hopeless. I'm speechless (almost..) that there is no aid in these areas to help restore these people's homes and livelihoods. One of the members of our team said he thought it would be like 10 years before New Orleans would be restored to the way it was. I just don't know why that is. This is on my heart today and I wanted to share it with everyone.
I remember seeing a blip on the news the other day about how the trailers for temporary living are still just sitting. I can't figure out why that is either.
Our country has never seen such devastation and in an area where people didn't have alot. Aren't the insurance companies being selective on how they categorize the damage? Some will say that a house was destroyed by flood and that person may not have had flood insurance, hence no compensation. I'd not be surprised if people just left things like they were in protest of no help. It is also terribly depressing to begin to tackle a clean-up when you know there isn't a chance to rebuild with nothing.
Our country has never seen such devastation and in an area where people didn't have alot. Aren't the insurance companies being selective on how they categorize the damage? Some will say that a house was destroyed by flood and that person may not have had flood insurance, hence no compensation. I'd not be surprised if people just left things like they were in protest of no help. It is also terribly depressing to begin to tackle a clean-up when you know there isn't a chance to rebuild with nothing.
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And Claim your power that is what you can do because once you do that, You can effect the world!
Hi,
Well the area are team was in was what had been a middle-class neighborhood- this was not a poorer area. These were just average folks who lost everything- their homes, jobs, all their personal belongings including photos of their families, etc. Many of the families are separated- living with relatives in other areas. Please keep these folks in your prayers.
Well the area are team was in was what had been a middle-class neighborhood- this was not a poorer area. These were just average folks who lost everything- their homes, jobs, all their personal belongings including photos of their families, etc. Many of the families are separated- living with relatives in other areas. Please keep these folks in your prayers.
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