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Mogirl
Aug 20 2008, 09:45 PM
QUOTE (TheGoddessDivine @ Aug 20 2008, 10:00 PM) *
Judyg.....you've given me more to think about! Maybe it IS Nicole's head in the box, courtesy of either Declan or Jo Gage (maybe Jo broke out of the pen?)
And no, you're not totally off base......I enjoy reading other members' opinions and thoughts, makes you think, right?



Well, it would certainly be more plausible to try and frame Goren and Eames for killing Nicole than for killing Frank (who probably can do a better job of that himself, given his meth addiction) -- Personally, I hope they do kill her off, because as I've said before, that plot got lame after the second episode. Which then brings up the question, who is smart enough to get the better of Nicole, since Bobby hasn't been able to do it? MAYBE Declan Gage, but not Jo -- Bobby, after all, caught her. And I don't think Jo would be out for revenge, given that her killing spree had a couple of very specific goals in mind. She did get what she wanted -- her father's full and undivided attention, at least in one respect. Declan, I'm not sure of -- I don't think we've seen enough of him to know much more than he's a has-been profiler who very publicly botched a big investigation (not Bobby's fault) and warped his daughter in the course of pursuing fame as a trail-blazing criminal investigator. Other than that, we really don't know all that much about him.

I do believe that Goren and Eames would die for each other -- and kill to protect each other. I am definitely looking forward to Sunday.
lrt28
Aug 20 2008, 09:55 PM
QUOTE (TheGoddessDivine @ Aug 20 2008, 10:44 PM) *
What a birthday to remember, lrt!

Everytime I try to stay out of this thread, I just cannot.......all the ideas and theories are making my head spin, 'cause I read them and I think: "yeah, that's a possibility" or "good point!" or "wait a minute, what about...." and then I keep posting here.



Yeah tell me about it....I am trying to forget my birthday all together this year. I am not getting any younger (which is depressing by itself) but somebody keeps posting my birthday date at work on the board in the break room. I think it is my supervisor, her husbands birthday is the same day as mine. Woohoo dry.gif
I guess I just want to ignore my B-day because I am just as broke now as I was at 18. And I am still going to school now as I was at 18 or 19...whatever. (I am trying to finish my bachelors). Oh well, I guess everyone has to have a birthday. Atleast this year I will have a nice present. LOCI! laugh.gif
TheGoddessDivine
Aug 20 2008, 10:43 PM
QUOTE (Mogirl @ Aug 20 2008, 09:45 PM) *
Well, it would certainly be more plausible to try and frame Goren and Eames for killing Nicole than for killing Frank (who probably can do a better job of that himself, given his meth addiction) -- Personally, I hope they do kill her off, because as I've said before, that plot got lame after the second episode. Which then brings up the question, who is smart enough to get the better of Nicole, since Bobby hasn't been able to do it? MAYBE Declan Gage, but not Jo -- Bobby, after all, caught her. And I don't think Jo would be out for revenge, given that her killing spree had a couple of very specific goals in mind. She did get what she wanted -- her father's full and undivided attention, at least in one respect. Declan, I'm not sure of -- I don't think we've seen enough of him to know much more than he's a has-been profiler who very publicly botched a big investigation (not Bobby's fault) and warped his daughter in the course of pursuing fame as a trail-blazing criminal investigator. Other than that, we really don't know all that much about him.

I do believe that Goren and Eames would die for each other -- and kill to protect each other. I am definitely looking forward to Sunday.



See what I mean when I say that I can't stay off this thread? lol

You have an excellent point about Jo Gage and her killing spree--she definitely had as her main goal to obtain her father's full attention. From what I remember about Blind Spot (and it's been a long time since I've seen it, and fie on Universal for not releasing further DVD sets!) is that Declan tended to treat Jo not as his daughter, but as his assistant. Didn't he have her catalogue his pictures of crime scenes and victims at a very young age? And it looked to me that he's the type of man that would be disappointed in not having a son....he did name her "Jo", after all---so when he meets a young man who has an interest in psychology and profiling, what happens? The attention goes completely away from Jo, and finally she decides to do something to get it back. And in the process, wound the person she believes took her father away from her. I think it was mentioned in Blind Spot that Mrs. Gage committed suicide---would be interesting to know what had pushed her over the edge, was it ever brought up?

And if G/E ever need a grave dug to hide a body......I'd be the first one there with a shovel and a bottle of Glenlivet. rolleyes.gif
NLfann
Aug 21 2008, 01:00 AM
QUOTE (NLfan @ Aug 3 2008, 08:04 PM) *
If Nicole actually shows up in this episode, I think there might be a somewhat different dynamic between her and Bobby. Bobby got through to Nicole in "Grow", e.g. because of what Bobby said, she dropped Gwen off to her Aunt and Uncle. In her message to Bobby she also admitted he was right about her. Perhaps her newly minted conscience has been bothering her? By his emotional reaction to her message, IMHO Bobby demonstrated how deeply he is affected by Nicole even though he is repulsed by her actions. There is a unique chemistry, a deep understanding, an intimacy between them. Even though they both resent it, they have a hold over each other. They challenge each other. I think, in a strange way, they actually care about each other. If circumstances were different, I think Bobby and Nicole might have become involved in a very torrid romantic relationship. IMHO Nicole, perhaps even sub-consciously, craves connection with Bobby so she continually creates opportunities to interact with him.

I think its Nicole who will pull Bobby out of his nosedive. I think she knows where Donnie is and will manipulate that situation to have one last conversation/confrontation with Bobby and then unexpectedly commit suicide.


QUOTE (NickyD @ Aug 20 2008, 09:55 PM) *
Goren's (Vincent D'Onofrio) notorious archnemesis Nicole Wallace (Olivia D'Abo) is back. She is still the cunning and wily awesome psycho be-yotch she's always been. Goren is in her sights, but now so is everyone who is even remotely related to Goren, including his brother Frank (Tony Goldwyn). Only, given her murderous ways of the past, what happens with her is not at all what you would imagine...


NickyD's post leads me to think that my prediction of Aug. 3rd about the different dynamic between Nicole and Bobby in this episode might be close to the mark. I still think Nicole has had a change of "that bunker she calls a heart" and she will be the one who pulls Bobby out of his nosedive. I think that her actions in "Frame" will demonstrate that she really does care about Bobby. I am so anxious and excited about this episode. This week seems like an eternity.
bammi
Aug 21 2008, 01:01 AM
I'm betting the ratings for this episode goes over 5 million. Providing the masses out there know it's the finale, and have a hint of what's to come. I guess some of the folks out there aren't as lucky as we are to get all these little spoilers.
Firefall
Aug 21 2008, 01:05 AM
QUOTE (bammi @ Aug 21 2008, 01:01 AM) *
I'm betting the ratings for this episode goes over 5 million. Providing the masses out there know it's the finale, and have a hint of what's to come. I guess some of the folks out there aren't as lucky as we are to get all these little spoilers.


I second that since we all been waiting for Nicole's return plus it's the season finale then there's Lionel Luthor/Declan Gage's return and all this hype...I believe this is going to be one of the most watched episodes this sunday.

Another thing is that both Goren and Eames are being treating as suspects making this episode even more interesting to watch.
Judyg
Aug 21 2008, 06:02 AM
QUOTE (TheGoddessDivine @ Aug 20 2008, 10:00 PM) *
Judyg.....you've given me more to think about! Maybe it IS Nicole's head in the box, courtesy of either Declan or Jo Gage (maybe Jo broke out of the pen?)
And no, you're not totally off base......I enjoy reading other members' opinions and thoughts, makes you think, right?


I try to avoid this thread because I want to be surprised as much as possible but after poking around last night I totally anxious and on the edge of my seat waiting. I'm trying not to read too much information - too much thinking hurts my brain....... tongue.gif

QUOTE (cluck73 @ Aug 20 2008, 10:01 PM) *
Thats a good one too, Judy!

I love Jeff Dunham too. My brother and his family saw him live and said he was great!


Thanks cluck - Jeff Dunham was great. You forget those 'dolls' aren't real, the man is so talented. I'd love to have a Peanut doll but can't afford the ones that pop up on E-bay every so often.

QUOTE (lrt28 @ Aug 20 2008, 10:38 PM) *
I can't do this anymore! laugh.gif I am just going to stay out of this thread until Sunday. I am going to be suprised either way I guess. Plus it would be the only suprise on my birthday. Funny enough my birthday is on the 24th woohooo dry.gif


Early Happy Birthday lrt28 biggrin.gif
krodgers
Aug 21 2008, 06:56 AM
QUOTE (TheGoddessDivine @ Aug 20 2008, 09:39 PM) *
Where are the people who are great with Photoshop? How about one with a praying mantis with a Nicole head.
Quaxo does hilarious siggys.....you know she'll come up with something really funny! Got a laugh over her Logan as Wallace Repellant banner.




I think we're all going to need rx's for either Valium, Xanax, or Ativan just to get through one hour on Sunday night! And methinks a box of Kleenex, incontinence pads, triple chocolate cheesecake, tacos will also be necessities. I'll bring the Middleswarth BBQ chips and the Tastykakes.




What about Nicole ends up dead and our Bobby and Alex become suspects? That article NickyD posted did mention that a lot of loose threads will finally be resolved.
I hope Bobby finally kills the heffer!! Nicole, man she's wicked, I'm scared of her, and it's a dam TV show! This is giving me major problems! Can you all imagine what we'll be saying after the show? All the computer's across the world will shut down!
NLfann
Aug 21 2008, 08:10 AM
QUOTE (Judyg @ Aug 21 2008, 08:32 AM) *
I try to avoid this thread because I want to be surprised as much as possible but after poking around last night I totally anxious and on the edge of my seat waiting. I'm trying not to read too much information - too much thinking hurts my brain....... tongue.gif


I'm going to have a big struggle to keep myself away from this thread on Sunday night. I usually read what people post (spoilers and all) while they are watching the episode on USA. For regular episodes this doesn't affect my enjoyment when I finally watch the episode myself. However, for this episode I don't want to be forewarned. I want to experience the full impact of whatever's going to happen. I'm realllly hyped though so I hope I can resist the temptation.
Jryan
Aug 21 2008, 10:46 AM
Now what's in the Box? Donny's head? We still don't know why Donny's mom is involved. Unless they are trying to find him to protect him from Nicole. Oh damn, is it sunday yet?
bammi
Aug 21 2008, 11:40 AM
QUOTE (Jryan @ Aug 21 2008, 10:46 AM) *
Now what's in the Box? Donny's head? We still don't know why Donny's mom is involved. Unless they are trying to find him to protect him from Nicole. Oh damn, is it sunday yet?


No, not Sunday yet--but good news! We've reached the halfway point, and we're all still here to talk about it. I think we're gonna make it!
hullbound
Aug 21 2008, 12:04 PM
CI already did head in a box in "Maledictus".
omerta3
Aug 21 2008, 12:49 PM
QUOTE (krodgers @ Aug 21 2008, 06:56 AM) *
I hope Bobby finally kills the heffer!! Nicole, man she's wicked, I'm scared of her, and it's a dam TV show! This is giving me major problems! Can you all imagine what we'll be saying after the show? All the computer's across the world will shut down!




Lol, you may be right krod. laugh.gif
nianne49
Aug 21 2008, 01:31 PM
QUOTE (bammi @ Aug 21 2008, 01:01 AM) *
I'm betting the ratings for this episode goes over 5 million. Providing the masses out there know it's the finale, and have a hint of what's to come. I guess some of the folks out there aren't as lucky as we are to get all these little spoilers.



I want to say a big Thank you to the writers. This is their gift to all of us who know and love these characters. I too hope the ratings go through the roof but the folks who this was really written for IMHO )is us!!! So thanks to all the writers, producers and actors for making our wishes come true(no matter where the story leads us). There cannot be many fans of television that can feel so much a part of their favorite show.
Nila
pfchristine
Aug 21 2008, 02:05 PM
QUOTE (nianne49 @ Aug 21 2008, 01:31 PM) *
I want to say a big Thank you to the writers. This is their gift to all of us who know and love these characters. I too hope the ratings go through the roof but the folks who this was really written for IMHO )is us!!! So thanks to all the writers, producers and actors for making our wishes come true(no matter where the story leads us). There cannot be many fans of television that can feel so much a part of their favorite show.
Nila



Here here!! We're crazy for you and this show and we can't thank you enough!!
cluck73
Aug 21 2008, 03:43 PM
QUOTE (Jryan @ Aug 21 2008, 11:46 AM) *
Now what's in the Box? Donny's head? We still don't know why Donny's mom is involved. Unless they are trying to find him to protect him from Nicole. Oh damn, is it sunday yet?


I forgot about Donny's mom! I think Nicole's head shows up in a box at MCS.

QUOTE (hullbound @ Aug 21 2008, 01:04 PM) *
CI already did head in a box in "Maledictus".



That's why they'll do it again.
NickyD
Aug 21 2008, 03:45 PM
Another piece for the puzzle:

Source: http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/35554
SUNDAY



-- "Law & Order: Criminal Intent" (9 p.m., USA Network). In the season finale, Detective Goren has to find out how his brother is connected to a murder.

cluck73
Aug 21 2008, 03:48 PM
So, Frank kills Nicole to make his brother love him again?
hullbound
Aug 21 2008, 03:53 PM
QUOTE (NickyD @ Aug 21 2008, 04:45 PM) *
Another piece for the puzzle:

Source: http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/35554
SUNDAY



-- "Law & Order: Criminal Intent" (9 p.m., USA Network). In the season finale, Detective Goren has to find out how his brother is connected to a murder.

hmmmmm......the case or the person in the body bag? Does that mean Frank is alive? Oooooh, I hope it doesn't mean that Donnie is in the bag.

QUOTE (cluck73 @ Aug 21 2008, 04:48 PM) *
So, Frank kills Nicole to make his brother love him again?


I have been dreaming of and wishing for an episode where bobby and Alex have to solve Nicole's murder. Could I be so lucky?
cluck73
Aug 21 2008, 03:55 PM
QUOTE (hullbound @ Aug 21 2008, 04:53 PM) *
hmmmmm......the case or the person in the body bag? Does that mean Frank is alive? Oooooh, I hope it doesn't mean that Donnie is in the bag.



I have been dreaming of and wishing for an episode where bobby and Alex have to solve Nicole's murder. Could I be so lucky?



That would be marvelous! Simply marvelous!
jcsavestheday
Aug 21 2008, 04:03 PM
Maybe Nicole shows up at Frank's apartment, and in a drug induced rage he kills her. Of course, he doesn't know who it is or who she is to Bobby. Perhaps she was trying to seduce him. Maybe she was trying to mess wiht Donny so he killed her.

Maybe he kills her after she shows up at his apartment (hence the peephole looking shot in the preview).
omerta3
Aug 21 2008, 04:27 PM
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Aug 21 2008, 03:48 PM) *
So, Frank kills Nicole to make his brother love him again?



Reading that on the page made me LOL out loud.
tlc
Aug 21 2008, 04:55 PM
I have a google alert set up for LOCI - I know pathetic, and if anyone wants a semi-spoiler, there is an article out on eonline titled "L&O OMG! Sunday's Finale is Kuh-razy and ends with this quote...

" if you're a CI fan, you must watch USA on Sunday night at 9 p.m.—it ties together a ton of long-running storylines, it's totally bizarre, and it's completely captivating
FusseKat
Aug 21 2008, 05:52 PM
OK... it's about 78 hours for me until Sunday's CI - - that is if my head doesn't explode by then! Sure hope it doesn't, I'd hate to miss this episode. It sounds like it might just be an okay season finale.

Who am I kidding, it sounds freakin' awesome! laugh.gif
cluck73
Aug 21 2008, 05:53 PM
I think Frank is too much of a coward to commit murder.
bammi
Aug 21 2008, 06:26 PM
I just hope it means Frank isn't the one in the body bag. I really like Tony Goldwyn as Frank, and would like to see the character continue on.

Another thing I was thinking. The article said Goren and Eames are suspects. Maybe at first Ross was reluctant to even think it, and didn't tell them right away, and that's when Bobby says "You didn't have the guts to tell me?"

And I still want to know why my poor Bobby is crying?!!!

I KNOW he isn't crying for Nicole, but if she dies I think there would be a small part of him that would feel bad. I think that, despite knowing what a horrible person she is, a small part of him would think of the sparkling little girl who survived the only way she knew how. Unfortunately she went so wrong after that. But like I said, I don't think it is her he's crying about. So who or what is making him that sad?
cluck73
Aug 21 2008, 06:30 PM
I think if Nicole dies Bobby will say, "Eeeeaaammmesss!!! We are goooing driiinkin'! I'll take you to my hometown bar. Hopefully Copa isn't there to jack me up this time." laugh.gif
Mogirl
Aug 21 2008, 07:01 PM
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Aug 21 2008, 06:53 PM) *
I think Frank is too much of a coward to commit murder.



I think Frank is a self-centered SOB who blames everyone else for his shortcomings and expects his baby brother to be there for him, while he can't be bothered if the shoe is on the other foot. Donny told Frank Bobby was trapped in Tates and Frank did NOTHING. Then, he has the nerve to look at Bobby and tell him, "you don't want to be my brother". Gee, I wonder why? I have a baby sister just like Frank, and when Frank said that I just about went ballistic. And yes, Frank is a coward, but I think he would do whatever if something stood in the way of him getting his next fix. His brain is fried, and it wasn't much to begin with.
Mogirl
Aug 21 2008, 07:02 PM
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Aug 21 2008, 07:30 PM) *
I think if Nicole dies Bobby will say, "Eeeeaaammmesss!!! We are goooing driiinkin'! I'll take you to my hometown bar. Hopefully Copa isn't there to jack me up this time." laugh.gif



HA HA HA !!! This is too funny, although I actually can hear Eames telling Bobby that, rather than Bobby telling Eames --- laugh.gif
Jryan
Aug 21 2008, 07:05 PM
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Aug 21 2008, 06:30 PM) *
I think if Nicole dies Bobby will say, "Eeeeaaammmesss!!! We are goooing driiinkin'! I'll take you to my hometown bar. Hopefully Copa isn't there to jack me up this time." laugh.gif



Eames would whip copa's butt, lol.
marilyn57
Aug 21 2008, 07:19 PM
QUOTE (gorenbaby @ Jul 31 2008, 02:01 AM) *
Well, I am Canadian and since CTV has apparently pulled LOCI (starts to shake again)I hope and pray they show this episode sometime before Christmas. Because hearing the news that Nicole could be making another appearance has me well very intrigued to say the least.
Bobby is supposed to come out of his nosedive, Ok let's recap. Goes to grave of MOM, sees picture, thinks it could be Nicole and possibly Donny and Frank are in the episode. HMMM! That's coming of a nosedive alright. Let's hope the parachute opens. Maybe he will take Eames to Motel after that. LOL

The ratings should go through the roof for this episode

Take care guys, love the forum without you I wouldn't know what to do. Not bringing up CTV AGAIN, damn I just did mad.gif



I have to chime in that I am very jealous of those who will be able to watch this Sunday, and I hope for some snippets of info on this board. It will probably be months before CTV gets around to showing the rest of Season 7, based on their recent performance, and I can't wait to hear what happens!!!
bammi
Aug 21 2008, 07:32 PM
QUOTE (marilyn57 @ Aug 21 2008, 07:19 PM) *
I have to chime in that I am very jealous of those who will be able to watch this Sunday, and I hope for some snippets of info on this board. It will probably be months before CTV gets around to showing the rest of Season 7, based on their recent performance, and I can't wait to hear what happens!!!


Are you able to download from Amazon? They offer episodes for 1.99, the day after they air. But I'm not sure if you can do it in Canada. But you could check it out.
marilyn57
Aug 21 2008, 08:25 PM
QUOTE (bammi @ Aug 21 2008, 08:32 PM) *
Are you able to download from Amazon? They offer episodes for 1.99, the day after they air. But I'm not sure if you can do it in Canada. But you could check it out.

Thanks so much for the thought, but we're not allowed to do that either (downloading restricted to those in US). And of course no episodes of LOCI after Season 3 are available on DVD (does anyone understand why?). I was in Chicago a few weeks ago and managed to catch part of Vanishing Act. I'm very jealous of those who can get USA Network, as we haven't even seen the trailers everyone is talking about! Enjoy yourselves!
DragonEmpress
Aug 21 2008, 09:01 PM
Have you given a thought that Nicole might have kidnapped Eames? I do not see her in the preview unsure.gif
cluck73
Aug 21 2008, 09:08 PM
QUOTE (DragonEmpress @ Aug 21 2008, 10:01 PM) *
Have you given a thought that Nicole might have kidnapped Eames? I do not see her in the preview unsure.gif



I hope Eames doesn't get kidnapped again. blink.gif
gorens_veal
Aug 21 2008, 09:19 PM
Has anyone posted about the review of the episode on the Reelblog?

It sets things off in a whole other tangent.

I am now afraid that Nicole somehow dies and frames Bobby and Alex for her death. The ultimate revenge.

http://www.thereelvincentdonofrio.com/reel...kuh-raaazy.html
DragonEmpress
Aug 21 2008, 09:33 PM
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Aug 21 2008, 09:08 PM) *
I hope Eames doesn't get kidnapped again. blink.gif

I surely hope so blink.gif

QUOTE (gorens_veal @ Aug 21 2008, 09:19 PM) *
Has anyone posted about the review of the episode on the Reelblog?

It sets things off in a whole other tangent.

I am not afraid that Nicole somehow dies and frames Bobby and Alex for her death. The ultimate revenge.

http://www.thereelvincentdonofrio.com/reel...kuh-raaazy.html

Thank you very much for the link. smile.gif
bobbyaddict08
Aug 21 2008, 09:45 PM
OMG after reading that really really cruel teaser on the reelblog im about ten times as more anxious for the show to come on now... (2 1/2 days and counting)... and after seeing the preview about 500 times im sooo convinced that that is frank in the bodybag also heres somthing i was pondering while i was at work with nothing better to do than to think about the show..... what if and this is one of those huuuuge what if's.. what if nicole and bobby are sister and brother... she seems to have this sick infatuation with him and his life maybe just maybe she knows somthing he doesnt.... i mean with the chance that that mark guy could be his father and he did alot of traveling around the world and messed with a ton of women maybe nicole is his to.. and the fact that he was a killer and she is a killer makes things a little more i dont know possible
TheGoddessDivine
Aug 21 2008, 09:48 PM
QUOTE (krodgers @ Aug 21 2008, 06:56 AM) *
I hope Bobby finally kills the heffer!! Nicole, man she's wicked, I'm scared of her, and it's a dam TV show! This is giving me major problems! Can you all imagine what we'll be saying after the show? All the computer's across the world will shut down!


KRod, you make me laugh!! "Heffer"....now that's a term I haven't used since nursing school....<laughin>
Anyway, I'm ready for Nicole to bite the dust......tie up this loose end, it's been going on since S2......enjoyed Anti-Thesis and A Person of Interest, but after that,......JMO. And yes, I do think too that we may crash the website Sunday night!


QUOTE (NLfann @ Aug 21 2008, 08:10 AM) *
I'm going to have a big struggle to keep myself away from this thread on Sunday night. I usually read what people post (spoilers and all) while they are watching the episode on USA. For regular episodes this doesn't affect my enjoyment when I finally watch the episode myself. However, for this episode I don't want to be forewarned. I want to experience the full impact of whatever's going to happen. I'm realllly hyped though so I hope I can resist the temptation.



QUOTE (hullbound @ Aug 21 2008, 03:53 PM) *
hmmmmm......the case or the person in the body bag? Does that mean Frank is alive? Oooooh, I hope it doesn't mean that Donnie is in the bag.



I have been dreaming of and wishing for an episode where bobby and Alex have to solve Nicole's murder. Could I be so lucky?


Maybe we'll get our wish! Ought to be interesting..... biggrin.gif

QUOTE (cluck73 @ Aug 21 2008, 06:30 PM) *
I think if Nicole dies Bobby will say, "Eeeeaaammmesss!!! We are goooing driiinkin'! I'll take you to my hometown bar. Hopefully Copa isn't there to jack me up this time." laugh.gif


If they do, I'm buying a round of Glenlivet shots with Yuengling Lager chasers! laugh.gif
gorens_veal
Aug 21 2008, 09:48 PM
QUOTE (bobbyaddict08 @ Aug 21 2008, 09:45 PM) *
OMG after reading that really really cruel teaser on the reelblog im about ten times as more anxious for the show to come on now... (2 1/2 days and counting)... and after seeing the preview about 500 times im sooo convinced that that is frank in the bodybag also heres somthing i was pondering while i was at work with nothing better to do than to think about the show..... what if and this is one of those huuuuge what if's.. what if nicole and bobby are sister and brother... she seems to have this sick infatuation with him and his life maybe just maybe she knows somthing he doesnt.... i mean with the chance that that mark guy could be his father and he did alot of traveling around the world and messed with a ton of women maybe nicole is his to.. and the fact that he was a killer and she is a killer makes things a little more i dont know possible


Great idea!!! Knowing that Bobby is so unstable, I wouldn't put it past her to put that idea in his head. Frank dying would be his last relative gone, except for possibly her? OHHHHHH!

I say she kills Frank, then kills herself and frames Bobby, or just makes Bobby think that she is his last living relative.
bobbyaddict08
Aug 21 2008, 09:56 PM
Oh and heres another one we really cant put past evil nicole... if that is frank in the bodybag my guess would be that she helped him overdose.. since she seems to know everything about bobby im sure she knows frank is a drug addict
NLfann
Aug 21 2008, 10:29 PM
QUOTE (bammi @ Aug 21 2008, 08:56 PM) *
Another thing I was thinking. The article said Goren and Eames are suspects. Maybe at first Ross was reluctant to even think it, and didn't tell them right away, and that's when Bobby says "You didn't have the guts to tell me?"


Bobby says "You didn't have the guts to ask me yourself". I have a different theory re what Bobby is talking about. It's my theory that the relationship between Nicole and Bobby has changed because Bobby finally got through to her in "Grow". I think she will actually try to help Bobby in this episode. Because of this drastic change, I think Ross asks Eames if there is something going on between Nicole and Bobby. Bobby finds out and confronts Ross saying "You you didn't have the guts to ask me yourself".

This week is crawling by so slowly.

arwenelf
Aug 21 2008, 11:23 PM
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Aug 21 2008, 04:30 PM) *
I think if Nicole dies Bobby will say, "Eeeeaaammmesss!!! We are goooing driiinkin'! I'll take you to my hometown bar. Hopefully Copa isn't there to jack me up this time." laugh.gif


Maybe they'll just have sherry and scones
bammi
Aug 22 2008, 12:47 AM
QUOTE (NLfann @ Aug 21 2008, 10:29 PM) *
Bobby says "You didn't have the guts to ask me yourself". I have a different theory re what Bobby is talking about. It's my theory that the relationship between Nicole and Bobby has changed because Bobby finally got through to her in "Grow". I think she will actually try to help Bobby in this episode. Because of this drastic change, I think Ross asks Eames if there is something going on between Nicole and Bobby. Bobby finds out and confronts Ross saying "You you didn't have the guts to ask me yourself".

This week is crawling by so slowly.


You're right, and that makes all the difference in the world; if I'd have thought about it a little more I'd have remembered that. Shoots down another theory! LOL
unsteady
Aug 22 2008, 04:52 AM
Maybe Nicole kills Frank, then somehow fakes her own death by murder. It's one of the few scenarios where Eames would be considered a suspect. Avenging her partner's brother's murder has a delicious ring to it, especially considering all they have been through lately.
SecretPhoenix
Aug 22 2008, 05:17 AM
So more new information on 'Frame':

http://www.nhregister.com/site/news.cfm?ne...35052&rfi=6

I will put it in a spoiler category.

Spoiler:
My friend Jimmy the C enjoys the work of obsessive compulsive detective Adrian Monk on that USA Network show, as do I. Half of that show is played for laughs — not the case with "Law & Order: Criminal Intent," the NBC Universal cousin of Monk also seen on USA Network these days.

Gavel/gong! goes the scene transition.

"CI" is gut-wrenchingly serious, especially in special episodes, such as Sunday's season finale at 9 p.m. Two words: Nicole Wallace. She's the slippery nemesis of emotionally tortured detective Robert Goren, played brilliantly by Vincent D'Onofrio.

You know how much we enjoy the work of D'Onofrio, whom we refer to (reverentially) as "creepy guy."

Goren's tilted-head interrogations are the stuff of TV legend, and yet Goren is never really in enough control of anything Sunday to handle a good intellectual beat-down.

What's wrong with Goren? Well, he's got a stubble beard and he's gained weight. But specifically: Nicole Wallace, played by Olivia D'Abo, seems to be wreaking new havoc; Bobby's junkie-gambler brother may reopen the wound of losing their wacky mother recently; Bobby's partner (Kathryn Erbe) has to investigate him for a murder; and Bobby keeps learning troubling things about his past, which was so unstable that it resembles Kelsey Grammer's. John Glover guest stars as Bobby's overtly odd friend Declan Gage.

Events will tug at the hearts of Bobby-philes. That's pronounced "Bawbee" if you're crazy-evil Nicole Wallace. She sends him flowers at one point and declines a signature on the card, saying, "Bawbee will know who it's from."

Ooh, that's not good. The season finale doesn't pack the same satisfying punch as the season opener, because it punches below the belt at times. It ends with an ironic and haunting statement, "You're free now. Bobby, you're free!"


May i be the first to say:

Oh My God.

And i dont think that even covers it.
cluck73
Aug 22 2008, 06:26 AM
Vincent D'Onofrio once said that he didn't want Goren to be so weird that he couldn't be a cop. Well, I don't want him to be so emotionally damaged that he can't be a cop.

Spoiler:
And to have Eames investigate her own partner for murder is absolutely ridiculous. She would never be on that case in real life.
sfeclitza
Aug 22 2008, 06:46 AM
QUOTE (SecretPhoenix @ Aug 22 2008, 06:17 AM) *
So more new information on 'Frame':

http://www.nhregister.com/site/news.cfm?ne...35052&rfi=6

I will put it in a spoiler category.

Spoiler:
My friend Jimmy the C enjoys the work of obsessive compulsive detective Adrian Monk on that USA Network show, as do I. Half of that show is played for laughs — not the case with "Law & Order: Criminal Intent," the NBC Universal cousin of Monk also seen on USA Network these days.

Gavel/gong! goes the scene transition.

"CI" is gut-wrenchingly serious, especially in special episodes, such as Sunday's season finale at 9 p.m. Two words: Nicole Wallace. She's the slippery nemesis of emotionally tortured detective Robert Goren, played brilliantly by Vincent D'Onofrio.

You know how much we enjoy the work of D'Onofrio, whom we refer to (reverentially) as "creepy guy."

Goren's tilted-head interrogations are the stuff of TV legend, and yet Goren is never really in enough control of anything Sunday to handle a good intellectual beat-down.

What's wrong with Goren? Well, he's got a stubble beard and he's gained weight. But specifically: Nicole Wallace, played by Olivia D'Abo, seems to be wreaking new havoc; Bobby's junkie-gambler brother may reopen the wound of losing their wacky mother recently; Bobby's partner (Kathryn Erbe) has to investigate him for a murder; and Bobby keeps learning troubling things about his past, which was so unstable that it resembles Kelsey Grammer's. John Glover guest stars as Bobby's overtly odd friend Declan Gage.

Events will tug at the hearts of Bobby-philes. That's pronounced "Bawbee" if you're crazy-evil Nicole Wallace. She sends him flowers at one point and declines a signature on the card, saying, "Bawbee will know who it's from."

Ooh, that's not good. The season finale doesn't pack the same satisfying punch as the season opener, because it punches below the belt at times. It ends with an ironic and haunting statement, "You're free now. Bobby, you're free!"


May i be the first to say:

Oh My God.

And i dont think that even covers it.



This is even more troubling than anything else at the moment. it's really too much for bobby and too much for us. i guess we all going to have a good sob while whatching this unsure.gif . dOyou have a spare kleenex for me ?
sfeclitza
Aug 22 2008, 06:58 AM
Bobby is investigated by eames for murder? this sounds fairly unbelieveble !!!!!!!!!!!. how can they conciliate bobby's past demons , with the apparition of nicole , and a new case , probably the case where he becomes a suspect? . And they air the epi during the closing of the OPlympic games..... this is really proverbial . blink.gif
untill then i changed my avatar again , i put a symbolic picture for the representation of a nosedive..with the well of human abysses and all.
sfeclitza
Aug 22 2008, 07:09 AM
QUOTE (bammi @ Aug 21 2008, 07:26 PM) *
I just hope it means Frank isn't the one in the body bag. I really like Tony Goldwyn as Frank, and would like to see the character continue on.

Another thing I was thinking. The article said Goren and Eames are suspects. Maybe at first Ross was reluctant to even think it, and didn't tell them right away, and that's when Bobby says "You didn't have the guts to tell me?"

And I still want to know why my poor Bobby is crying?!!!

I KNOW he isn't crying for Nicole, but if she dies I think there would be a small part of him that would feel bad. I think that, despite knowing what a horrible person she is, a small part of him would think of the sparkling little girl who survived the only way she knew how. Unfortunately she went so wrong after that. But like I said, I don't think it is her he's crying about. So who or what is making him that sad?



that's what i thought about too. the image of him crying hauntes me ever since so i put up a few resons for his affliction :
1. he's crying because he remembered his mother while visiting her grave
2. he cries because the death of someone related to him ( his brother , Donnie , nicole ) shocked him
3. it's the ultimate crack that we have been waiting for since the beginning of the season , and he will exorcise his demons , the moment where his rage willl transform into psychological suffering.
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