I have a son who has Autism. Of the various spectrums of it I wonder if the Monk family have Asphergers Syndrome?
(Asperger's Syndrome is a mild form of autism) While highly intelligent may stuggle with things like social situations.
After Jack, Ambrose and Monk don't seem to have good social skills. Jack also mentioned that Monk's half-brother spent time in his basement apartment.
(Asperger's syndrome is a milder and higher functioning form of autism that presents with all the usual signs of autism, except communication delays, and most people with AS have an average or above average IQ)
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QUOTE (AaronD @ Jul 23 2008, 07:32 PM) 
I have a son who has Autism. Of the various spectrums of it I wonder if the Monk family have Asphergers Syndrome?
(Asperger's Syndrome is a mild form of autism) While highly intelligent may stuggle with things like social situations.
After Jack, Ambrose and Monk don't seem to have good social skills. Jack also mentioned that Monk's half-brother spent time in his basement apartment.
(Asperger's syndrome is a milder and higher functioning form of autism that presents with all the usual signs of autism, except communication delays, and most people with AS have an average or above average IQ)
(Asperger's Syndrome is a mild form of autism) While highly intelligent may stuggle with things like social situations.
After Jack, Ambrose and Monk don't seem to have good social skills. Jack also mentioned that Monk's half-brother spent time in his basement apartment.
(Asperger's syndrome is a milder and higher functioning form of autism that presents with all the usual signs of autism, except communication delays, and most people with AS have an average or above average IQ)
People with AS also tend to display OCD type tendencies like hording and touching or arranging things, and have unusual fears and phobias. I also have a son with Asperger's Syndrome and I think that it's ve3ry possible. After, OCD doesn't usually present in children from birth onward, and when it does show up, it's most often in adolescence or following a trauma, but Adrian as a teenager seemed to be extremely socially awkward and not be quite as compulsive as he is now, thugh it was following his father's abandonment to start the ball rolling, and before losing Trudy, which would be the major catalyst for how he is now. But there were also those scenes we saw from the home movies, before his dad left, even when Adrian was a baby tugging at his PJs. My son wouldn't wear any shirts that didn't cover up his shoulders in the summer, and no long sleeved shirts that didn't go completely down to cover his wrists when he was a toddler.
Hey, maybe Randy does, too. 
QUOTE (Liv @ Jul 23 2008, 06:48 PM)
People with AS also tend to display OCD type tendencies like hording and touching or arranging things, and have unusual fears and phobias. I also have a son with Asperger's Syndrome and I think that it's ve3ry possible. After, OCD doesn't usually present in children from birth onward, and when it does show up, it's most often in adolescence or following a trauma, but Adrian as a teenager seemed to be extremely socially awkward and not be quite as compulsive as he is now, thugh it was following his father's abandonment to start the ball rolling, and before losing Trudy, which would be the major catalyst for how he is now. But there were also those scenes we saw from the home movies, before his dad left, even when Adrian was a baby tugging at his PJs. My son wouldn't wear any shirts that didn't cover up his shoulders in the summer, and no long sleeved shirts that didn't go completely down to cover his wrists when he was a toddler.
I was thinking about the Vegas episode, that was on today. Do you think it possible for someone with AS to really count cards like Monk did?
QUOTE (quinfran @ Jul 23 2008, 11:26 PM)
I was thinking about the Vegas episode, that was on today. Do you think it possible for someone with AS to really count cards like Monk did?
I think it's possible for some people with AS to do it, some people with AS or other autistic spectrum disorders (Though not all, and savants are rare, even among people with autistm) are very, very good with numbers, and find comfort in pattern recognition, and really, that was what Monk was doing in Vegas, he saw a pattern and followed it. He wasn't counting the cards, he noticed that the dealer wasn't shuffling the cards very well when he added them to the shoe, so he was knew approximately what would be coming next; the cards were playing out in more or less descending order, that was how he knew that the next card that would come out would be low, a three or a four. Then ttwos, and Aces and starting back over again at Kings, Queens and Jacks. It was really pretty simple, one of those things that looks or seems a lot more impressive than it was.
But yes, there are some people with AS who could actually count the cards, and they would also be the ones who could solve very complex math problems in their heads in a matter of seconds, some who, if you give them a date any where in the past or the future, they could tell you what day of the week it would fall on. Some of it is math, some is very strong pattern recognition (which is kind of a math on it's own), and some is eidetic memory, with some it's a combination of of all three. One of the early symptoms of AS or autistic spectrum disorders is if a child likes to stack things, or line them up, usually in order according to size or sometimes other criteria, they like patterns, and counting is really a pattern, following the cards from Kings to twos and Aces is a pattern. If you ever watched A Beautiful Mind, you've seen an example of the pattern recognition/fascination in John Nash. That movie dealt with his mental illness, schizophrenia, but never said whether he was autistic or not. I believe that he was aytistic, because schizophrenia and autism, especially AS seem to go hand in hand.
QUOTE (AaronD @ Jul 23 2008, 06:32 PM)
I have a son who has Autism. Of the various spectrums of it I wonder if the Monk family have Asphergers Syndrome?
(Asperger's Syndrome is a mild form of autism) While highly intelligent may stuggle with things like social situations.
After Jack, Ambrose and Monk don't seem to have good social skills. Jack also mentioned that Monk's half-brother spent time in his basement apartment.
(Asperger's syndrome is a milder and higher functioning form of autism that presents with all the usual signs of autism, except communication delays, and most people with AS have an average or above average IQ)
(Asperger's Syndrome is a mild form of autism) While highly intelligent may stuggle with things like social situations.
After Jack, Ambrose and Monk don't seem to have good social skills. Jack also mentioned that Monk's half-brother spent time in his basement apartment.
(Asperger's syndrome is a milder and higher functioning form of autism that presents with all the usual signs of autism, except communication delays, and most people with AS have an average or above average IQ)
That is a very interesting question. My boyfriend has Asphergers Syndrome, he told me that used to find it difficult to socialize when he was younger and that he always felt different than other children until his parents told him.
His mum explained that this type of behaviour was because of his autism, he also has to take medication for OCD, which i guess may also be part of the AS, as i have found out some people with this have to be constantly reassured and at times it's hard not to snap or get irritated or annoyed, but it's not really their fault.
I've actually never wondered that about Monk but maybe it's just OCD that gets him, i just wonder whether you are born with OCD or you kind of pick it up from your parents or whoever. The part about the intelligence is a good point though....
....Pinkie....
QUOTE (Liv @ Jul 24 2008, 10:51 AM)
I think it's possible for some people with AS to do it, some people with AS or other autistic spectrum disorders (Though not all, and savants are rare, even among people with autistm) are very, very good with numbers, and find comfort in pattern recognition, and really, that was what Monk was doing in Vegas, he saw a pattern and followed it. He wasn't counting the cards, he noticed that the dealer wasn't shuffling the cards very well when he added them to the shoe, so he was knew approximately what would be coming next; the cards were playing out in more or less descending order, that was how he knew that the next card that would come out would be low, a three or a four. Then ttwos, and Aces and starting back over again at Kings, Queens and Jacks. It was really pretty simple, one of those things that looks or seems a lot more impressive than it was.
But yes, there are some people with AS who could actually count the cards, and they would also be the ones who could solve very complex math problems in their heads in a matter of seconds, some who, if you give them a date any where in the past or the future, they could tell you what day of the week it would fall on. Some of it is math, some is very strong pattern recognition (which is kind of a math on it's own), and some is eidetic memory, with some it's a combination of of all three. One of the early symptoms of AS or autistic spectrum disorders is if a child likes to stack things, or line them up, usually in order according to size or sometimes other criteria, they like patterns, and counting is really a pattern, following the cards from Kings to twos and Aces is a pattern. If you ever watched A Beautiful Mind, you've seen an example of the pattern recognition/fascination in John Nash. That movie dealt with his mental illness, schizophrenia, but never said whether he was autistic or not. I believe that he was aytistic, because schizophrenia and autism, especially AS seem to go hand in hand.
But yes, there are some people with AS who could actually count the cards, and they would also be the ones who could solve very complex math problems in their heads in a matter of seconds, some who, if you give them a date any where in the past or the future, they could tell you what day of the week it would fall on. Some of it is math, some is very strong pattern recognition (which is kind of a math on it's own), and some is eidetic memory, with some it's a combination of of all three. One of the early symptoms of AS or autistic spectrum disorders is if a child likes to stack things, or line them up, usually in order according to size or sometimes other criteria, they like patterns, and counting is really a pattern, following the cards from Kings to twos and Aces is a pattern. If you ever watched A Beautiful Mind, you've seen an example of the pattern recognition/fascination in John Nash. That movie dealt with his mental illness, schizophrenia, but never said whether he was autistic or not. I believe that he was aytistic, because schizophrenia and autism, especially AS seem to go hand in hand.
Thank you for your answer. I was pretty sure it was possible. A friend told me, what Monk did in Vegas could never happen. Thanks for clearing that up.
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