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Klaatu
Hiltz has a body that just won't quit but the main character's (McCormack) California uptalking accent is annoying. Half the time, don't know whether she's asking a question a making a statement. And the other half, don't know what she's saying at all since she speaks so fast. Reminds me of the West Wing.

Overall, show is witty and stories are rather interesting but characters aren't unrealistic; especially McCormack's. No woman on the planet is like Mary Shannon. TV is supposed to be escapist but 'cmon.

And although all TV other than non-premium cable is also only a big catalog, there must be only 40 minutes of show. Have to record and watch later, editing out commercials.

Can't wait for "Monk" to start although still miss Bitty Schram as Sharona. Howard as Teeger is too much of a girly-girl. Mary Shannon is anything but, so I guess that's at least one positive for "In Plain Sight." Shannon is good role model for women; Teeger is not.
Bubba_Bridges
Hi Bubba here, I think Mary has done a good job in this series. I know this has nothing to do with the show but, Traylor Howard has been a great addition to Monk.
mtra11
QUOTE (Bubba_Bridges @ Jul 15 2008, 05:13 PM) *
Hi Bubba here, I think Mary has done a good job in this series. I know this has nothing to do with the show but, Traylor Howard has been a great addition to Monk.

I so totally agree with you. The show is excellent..and I hate to see it end in August..and
hope it will return. Mary McCormack is wonderful..and a very talented gal..balancing
stage...tv..family. Go to You Tube..type in her name..and have some fun moments..
esp with the video from the show she is in on Bway. Great..would love to see it.
Klaatu.....be more positive. We are lucky to have had a decent summer show....and did
not have to watch a lot of reruns of other shows.
I enjoyed her guest spot on Leno last night..and if you go to You Tube...you can see her
on other late night shows.
Yes I too look forward to Monk next Friday eve..esp to see how they intro the new
doctor.
Amski
The show does have a coupla minor holes but we have to remember, it's in it's first season and still finding its feat so there are bound to be these discrepencies. Season 2 may run a little smoother, not that I think S1 has been rough as of yet.

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No woman on the planet is like Mary Shannon.

Hmm, I disagree. I identify an incredible amount with Mary. Overall I think the cast has done a brilliant job, I do think that Fred Weller is the breakout star though, everyone I talk to just adores Marshall (me included) the boy done good. I always defended Jinx & Brandi (apart from in Trojan Horst where they were pretty much unessicary, but again, it was early in the series) and I think those two characters are brilliant.

So yeah, to conclude, yes, there are holes in the show, minor ones which I think are becomming less minor as the weeks go by. I think by the end of S1/start of S2, we will have a well oiled, fine running machine.
bobbysthebest1
QUOTE (Amski @ Jul 15 2008, 06:19 PM) *
The show does have a coupla minor holes but we have to remember, it's in it's first season and still finding its feat so there are bound to be these discrepencies. Season 2 may run a little smoother, not that I think S1 has been rough as of yet.


I agree. It’s the first season and there still figuring out what works and what doesn’t. I personally, think that Marshall is the Man (or Mann) biggrin.gif . He is the star of the show in my opinion. That’s not to say I don’t think Mary hasn’t done a good job! I think she has. Either she or the writers have made her character much more appealing to me as the episodes go on. As for her character not being realistic enough, my only problem was with the Pilot. I really disliked it and, particularly, her character in that episode. Since that episode, I have liked her character more and more each episode. It’s a work in progress. What about her personality in particular is unbelievable?

As far as lead characters doing unrealistic things... how about this list:
1) Bobby and Logan on LOCI? They have both done things they would never be allowed to do in real life.
2) House (do I need to explain why he made the list tongue.gif ? )
3) Elliott and Olivia on SVU (again, I don’t think an explanation is needed here dry.gif )

I have hopes for the rest of the season as well as season 2.
sniksnak
QUOTE (Klaatu @ Jul 15 2008, 04:03 PM) *
Hiltz has a body that just won't quit but the main character's (McCormack) California uptalking accent is annoying. Half the time, don't know whether she's asking a question a making a statement. And the other half, don't know what she's saying at all since she speaks so fast. Reminds me of the West Wing.


Shoot. Why even bring it up? LOL. My TV-reflex-action is cranked so high I've been flung way past WW, back into Sports Night. Those were the good 'ol days. God. Give me some intellectual babble anyday. Rants and ramble are par for course, and just darn entertaining. Granted I just discovered I can turn on closed-caption with a click - great asset with the doggies are having a barking fit.

QUOTE (Klaatu @ Jul 15 2008, 04:03 PM) *
Overall, show is witty and stories are rather interesting but characters aren't unrealistic; especially McCormack's. No woman on the planet is like Mary Shannon. TV is supposed to be escapist but 'cmon.

And although all TV other than non-premium cable is also only a big catalog, there must be only 40 minutes of show. Have to record and watch later, editing out commercials.


Er, typing booboo on the 'un' realistic front? Ok, you try being that passionate about every darn day, and we'll see how it goes ;] But ok, I'll pull the finger. What's off about her? What? She just shouldn't care that much? Shouldn't know people that're that cool? Shouldn't have a gun, be non-PC, get close to showing cleavage?

Otherwise, meh. I hear Fox is pulling some weird crap with Joss Whedon and someone else and is cutting commercials on their new shows. Fan-freaking tastic, numerically, but I seriously doube a few extra minutes in a weekly series is going to cause some artistic revolution or something.

QUOTE (Klaatu @ Jul 15 2008, 04:03 PM) *
Can't wait for "Monk" to start although still miss Bitty Schram as Sharona. Howard as Teeger is too much of a girly-girl. Mary Shannon is anything but, so I guess that's at least one positive for "In Plain Sight." Shannon is good role model for women; Teeger is not.


Shoot, I'm with you there. Schram was fun, Howard comes on and it's all "what, "Two Guys, a Girl and a Pizza Place" need a relapse?" Yea, I was a fan of that other show that got kicked. But, uh, Monk's sorta blown for a while. Seriously? Same talented actor doing same fab character amongst changing cast and crew. The only real question is when it's going to be kicked off the airwaves.

But you know? Teeger ain't crap, she just isn't fabulous. Mediocre. It's a good word. But why's some description of "girly-girl" coming into it? I really want to know. Seriously. I'm a girl, I'm an intellectual, I've wrestled with this question over the years. I've got no answers. If I want to pick out a role model right this minute, I'm chosing Faith from Third Watch. Howard from Homicide LOTS. No way anything from USA is coming near me. But maybe it should be?

Edited to note: I don't even remember writing that. And wow, I use the words 'ok' and 'shoot' a lot when I'm completely sleep deprived and running on the dregs of massive caffeine intake wacko.gif Who knew?
medea42
If no woman on the planet is like Mary Shannon, then several of my friends are figments of my imagination or space aliens. This includes myself, which would explain a lot.

I recommend speaking to more women.
markperez
"...aren't unrealistic" So that means you are saying the character is realistic.

QUOTE (Klaatu @ Jul 15 2008, 04:03 PM) *
Hiltz has a body that just won't quit but the main character's (McCormack) California uptalking accent is annoying. Half the time, don't know whether she's asking a question a making a statement. And the other half, don't know what she's saying at all since she speaks so fast. Reminds me of the West Wing.

Overall, show is witty and stories are rather interesting but characters aren't unrealistic; especially McCormack's. No woman on the planet is like Mary Shannon. TV is supposed to be escapist but 'cmon.

And although all TV other than non-premium cable is also only a big catalog, there must be only 40 minutes of show. Have to record and watch later, editing out commercials.

Can't wait for "Monk" to start although still miss Bitty Schram as Sharona. Howard as Teeger is too much of a girly-girl. Mary Shannon is anything but, so I guess that's at least one positive for "In Plain Sight." Shannon is good role model for women; Teeger is not.

asiagurl
Most of the plots have, so far, had holes. The first ep was so convoluted that it was difficult to follow. Overall, Trojan Horst was probably the best plot. Simple with a small twist. The plot about the Native American teenage boy wasn't bad, either. The latest one about the doctor was sappy, lame and unrealistic.
TotalRecall
First off, the show is pretty boring and trashy! USA Network really should be ashamed of themselves for the overt trashiness in this show.

Second, I agree with the OP that McCormick's character is very unrealistic!!! I do like her partner, Marshall, though. I think Marshall is the one thing that's keeping this ship from sinking.

The show does have holes in it. One was they were putting witnesses in the same careers they were doing before going in witness protection (example, Art dealer to Art dealer). In the last episode, they finally mentioned it, but didn't correct it (Dr. to Dr.). Another is some of those scenerios that put these witnesses in protection are just off the wall phony. They make out like every two-bit hood is the biggest mobster in the U.S. I guarantee you that if you witnessed a murder, you might get some protection until the trial, but after the trial it's see you, don't want to be you. In the last episode, if that Hispanic punk really wanted that girl dead, then he would have shot her as well before he drove off. Lame storylines!!!

As for on Monk, I did like Bitty Schram as Sharona, but I think Traylor Howard is a pleasant addition to the show. However, I didn't like that first episode when they made Natalie out as a tramp. Natalie's daughter, Julie, was so adorable the first few seasons. Though the writers have the timeline off with Trudy's death & Julie's age.
medea42
Here's my problem with the realism arguments: civilians do not can not and should not know what would be realistic for witness protection. That's why it's witness protection. The audience has no way to gauge that, and anyone IN witness protection probably won't be posting here or will have the sense not to mention it if he/she is.

Drawing from what little experience I have in the "hiding people" arena, I'd have to say that the character behavior I've seen given the situation is pretty close to what experience I've had. I used to work for a battered women's shelter and I'm still a registered advocate in my state. Women's advocacy involves a lot of hiding people/relocation, and even when a woman knows she's in grave danger she doesn't always take her life being uprooted gracefully - nor do her children. While witness protection is a much different and more dangerous animal, the reactions I'm watching in the characters is pretty darned close to what I saw among my advocees, especially those who had educations that they had had to work their tails off for. They didn't want to leave the relationships they'd built, or their jobs, or any other part of their lives, even if some of those relationships were deeply threatening to their health.

The way to handle these people is not to be "traditionally" feminine, i.e. soft and sympathetic. Even victims have agendas that can take down not just themselves but you. You have to be tough with them, set standards and insist they be stuck to. It's not about being comforting - it's about making sure the people you're helping survive.

Women as tough as Mary really do exist. I've had to exhibit that toughness at work and at home, and I've had the privilege of knowing many women who do.

The only character I'm struggling to accept? Jinx. But that looks like there still might be some doors to open and explain her.
terrilynn
I love In Plain Sight. This is a little irritating and I haven't seen this addressed, but Mary and Marshall are Deputy U.S. Marshalls, not Marshalls. They should not be addressed that way. My friend is a former U.S. Marshall for the Eastern District of Kentucky. Even in the U.S. Marshalls movie, they made it clear that Tommy Lee Jones was a Deputy U.S. Marshall. The U.S. Marshall heads up his area (district) of the state. U.S. Marshalls are nominated by their U.S. Senator, names sent to the president and confirmed by the Senate. The way I understand it, all others are Deputy U.S. Marshalls.
Love the series, even with the minor quirk! Also, keep Rafe....he is a great character.
JaredD
QUOTE (terrilynn @ Jul 24 2008, 11:18 AM) *
I love In Plain Sight. This is a little irritating and I haven't seen this addressed, but Mary and Marshall are Deputy U.S. Marshalls, not Marshalls.

Interesting info. (Don’t those little off beam nuances just dig?) In next week’s TV guide there is a nice spread about Mary. (Didn’t read the entire article, because it started talking about the upcoming episode--like to stay spoiler free.) But, it did mention that the US Marshal Service (or whichever office/department is in charge of the Service) has given the show a get-it-right consultant on the set. Just goes to show that even the experts don’t always catch everything.

TotalRecall
Another hole is that they only change their last names when they go to witness protection. They may be doing this to keep the characters straight for a 1 hour TV program. Nonetheless, it's still not accurate.
JaredD
Just a thought. Wonder if the folks who do these shows ever take a look-see at discussion Boards. Also wonder about the kind of pressure (if any) it puts on the folks who are responsible for the final product we see on the screen to know that any little misstep can be (will be) rebroadcast, discussed and dissected world wide in a matter of minutes and ad nauseam.

Must be a kick in the head when all the efforts put into a production can so quickly take a back seat. That is, the discussion of the day is not about the merit of the story or the quality of the acting, or anything relevant to the actual product. Instead, the discussion of the day could be about the fact that in one scene a characters’ top button was alternately open then closed each time the camera moved in for a close-up. Just a thought.

Phillywatch
QUOTE (terrilynn @ Jul 24 2008, 11:18 AM) *
I love In Plain Sight. This is a little irritating and I haven't seen this addressed, but Mary and Marshall are Deputy U.S. Marshalls, not Marshalls. They should not be addressed that way. My friend is a former U.S. Marshall for the Eastern District of Kentucky. Even in the U.S. Marshalls movie, they made it clear that Tommy Lee Jones was a Deputy U.S. Marshall. The U.S. Marshall heads up his area (district) of the state. U.S. Marshalls are nominated by their U.S. Senator, names sent to the president and confirmed by the Senate. The way I understand it, all others are Deputy U.S. Marshalls.
Love the series, even with the minor quirk! Also, keep Rafe....he is a great character.


If you really want to be technically correct, U.S. Marshals (or Deputy U.S. Marshals) has only one "l". The name Marshall has two.
closetfan
When they identify themselves, they say Marshals, but when calling each other by title, they are called Inspector. Stan called them inspectors in the Trojen Horst, and it the with the doctor and his family, Mary introduced themselves as Inspector Mann and Inspector Shannon.

JaredD
QUOTE (Phillywatch @ Jul 25 2008, 09:41 AM) *
If you really want to be technically correct, U.S. Marshals (or Deputy U.S. Marshals) has only one "l". The name Marshall has two.


I blame the “cute thinking” show handlers for giving us this Marshal Marshall mess.


On behalf of myself and all (if I may be so bold) other spelling-challenged posters let me say that content should out rank structure. And, that the word-wizards among you could be a bit more __________. (Can’t think of the right word here; do one of you mind filling it in?)

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