YES. i really miss the simplicity/cop show-ness of the old epis (tie clip, leather binder)...i do like the new season though. its just different. but i like my old g/e better. i agree with some of the others who have the killer figured out from the beginning.. i also havent been smart enough in past seasons to do that. i did get quite a kick out of eames laughing this epi...how long has it been?! and i do feel like they are getting back to each other. (im not a shipper, but i really felt a shippy glance or two in this one...)

i absolutley did a double take when goren did the arresting!! and my hubby pionted out we havent heard a "no, see..." in quite a while.

Thats what I tried to explain in my post...not everyone gets to see them on Sunday...so the spoliers are just to be polite to toher viewers and fans.


And...you are welcome

I loved everything about this episode. To me, it was like a delicious dessert. I enjoyed every mouthful, and it left me wanting more! Not only did we get Bobby smiling (and Eames, too) we got Bobby laughing. The magic was more than I expected. I thought we'd get a glimpse, maybe VDO doing one little thing, instead, we were treated to lots of BobbyMagic. There was an undercurrent of angst, just enough for us to be reminded all is not resolved, but the way G/E gelled, I'm very encouraged. Love the tag team aria, although I still prefer the Goren aria. This is my favorite angst-free (mostly) episode of the past several seasons.

Great way to put it. It was fun.

It's interesting VDO loved magic tricks when he was a kid. This epi sure fit his childhood backround. I thought, as I said before, he acted like a child in a candy, or toy store. I loved the laughter, and the excitement he seemed to have with this show. Good for Bobby!

Yes you can call me bb (although bb stands for big brother) thank you so much for th munchies I love it. I guess reruns will have to do until the next new epi.


It never even occured to me about the facial hair, good catch.
As for the writing, I've seen problems with that all season. I like the story lines, but some of th lines are off. Most of the problems seem to be coming to the conclusions at the end of the episodes.


Well said!

My favorite Goren & Eames episode so far this season...loads of fun. Good to see Goren back in his old school groove

Am looking forward to reviewing notes on it with my best friend who does a lot of amateur magic (card tricks).

I either knew the secrets behind some of the tricks Goren messed with like the magician's cane that appears out of thin air, making the key to the holding cell appear in his hand (poor Officer Jones), the pan with the fake flowers, the guillotine (Harry Anderson does a variation of that illusion with his arm), the woman in half in the box (part of Dean Holiday's act), the mummy box illusion Christopher Lloyd was doing...or mostly could figure them out.

The code prevents me from revealing all of them but I'll bet VDO is a little less popular with the most amateur of magicians right now The really good illusionist's secrets are still safe though

Seriously if you go to a magic store and ask how a trick/illusion is done, you are committing yourself to paying for it when you get the answer. I learned that from visiting a few magic shops with my playing card illusion obsessed friend (and that's how come I know how the cane from thin air illusion works ...you'd have to ask one of my other friends about how much he knows about 'throwing fireballs' and how he lightly burned his fingers a couple of times playing around with that illusion...a result of the same magic shop visit ). That is a part of the magician's code and I'm glad Goren acknowledged that.

And while the nurses here caught on to some things not being right behind Miles's big 'buried alive for 30 days' illusion, the point was the crowds wouldn't be hip to the inconsistencies AND IT IS AN ILLUSION that they sold pretty well. That's how David Blane or David Copperfield or Cris Angel or Lance Burton work. REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION & MISDIRECTION.

By the way I know of a real-life story of a magician who really screwed up a 'buried alive in a coffin' illusion escape...the variation was he had mixed and drying concrete poured over his buried 6 feet under coffin (instead of just buried under plain old dry dirt) and he made two miscalculations that literally killed him
1) the rate at which the concrete would dry and harden (faster than the magician figured)
2) the *weight* of six feet of wet concrete over a coffin (it's much heavier than dry dirt and hard to go through to escape plus there's less air in it than there is in dirt)

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I just to apologize that my last post seems to of appeared 5 times (I just went back and deleted to extra ones) I don't know how that happened, sorry!

I agree. I couldn't improve on that description. Oh and hullacious......your siggy is fantastic!

No worries. The board is acting a little slow and wonky these days. I ended up double posting something too.

CI is still a must see but I'm not watching as intently as I used to. I think the perps have been too light-weight(excluding Senseless). I don't know if it's the writing or the actors' interpretations. I love the arias but the one between G/E and the magician wasn't impressive because magic man wasn't a formidable opponent. It was like G/E knocking down an annoying little brother.

I think you have a good point here. Where's the bad guy who's really a challenge for Goren? The judge from ITWSH, the master thief from Silver Lining, the assasin from Dead, and the ultimate Nicole Wallace... now they gave him a workout. I'd like to see more like them also.

I'm glad to find someone who feels the way I do re: the writing of these epi's.

Like everyone else, I adored this episode. So many juicy details & tidbits to re-watch for. I'm also a fan of the clean shaven Bobby, but his beard was neat & well trimmed, so it's OK.


I thought so too. Maybe we're just getting more used to it?

Jryan mentioned the blond female Detective who seems to be the lead at many of the initial crime scenes. Anyone think she might be good for Goren? She's the right age & not bad looking. She seems patient with Goren, like Alex is. Can't tell if she's wearing a ring.


I can relate, it's how I function. Like Scarlett O'Hara said "tomorrow is another day." (for you other old people who remember "GWTW.")


The writer who wrote this episode mentioned a magician technical adviser. Why not splurge for a medical adviser too?


Does your Mom know about "Five Minutes, Mr. Wells?" And I think VDO's in pre-production for his western he's producing/directing/acting in. That explains the beard & hair.


Good one. The guy looked like he had just shaved, didn't he? I totally didn't catch that.

OK, once and for all, since folks seem to be forgetting.

The reason VDO looks so much different in "Please Note" versus in "Vanishing Act" is that "Please Note" was filmed waaaaaaay back before the writer's strike! It was shown "out of order" from when it was filmed.

Remember, VDO/Goren re-appeared clean-shaven and smartly suited for the hearing after the Tates incident in "Untethered", but spiraled down again looking for Donny and then the whole undercover operation mess in "Purgatory" -- in "Vanishing" act, he still looks like he did in "Purgatory", cuz those 2 were filmed back-to-back for the G/E team.

"Please Note" was filmed right after "Untethered" and was "supposed" to fall right before his suspension or right after his coming back, but then the strike occurred and "Purgatory" was written, and well.....here we are watching an epi that is shown "out of order" from when it was filmed.

I hope that satisfactorily explains why he has such a well-developed beard in such a short time.

Is your post for me, flashy? I know all about the out of sequence showing, and why "PLease Note" has him clean shaven. I was explaining why Goren/VDO has a beard from April 2008 to the present. He's involved in his western.

Ya but I don't think that will film until next year, so the beard now is a choice for Goren.

More a choice for VDO, I think.

I'd rather he choose a razor blade, imo. I prefer the clean-shaved smartly-suited Bobby, myself. Although, when he's lost the weight, the BTSOH and leather jacket are quite nice, too!

Could be.. hehe

I know that one reason my husband wears a beard is that he gets a five o'clock shadow at 10 AM, my son shaves twice a day and still looks like he has a moustache, could you imagine that with a 14+ hour day.

anyone else get the text message that VDO had a guillotine as a child?

LOL.... makes me wish my phone got text messages!

There ya go!! I'm still waiting for Nicole Wallace to come back. Those are the shows that really show Goren's many layers. She gives him a chance to show what he can do as a detective and as a human being, as well. I love to watch the two of them go after each other. It's like Sherlock Holmes and Moriarty!

Sure did! What does it say about me, that I had to save the text?

Edited to add the text message...
L&O CI: Goren mentions that he used to have an 11 ft guillotine magic trick. Actor D'Onofrio actually did study magic & owned such a guillotine as a child.

Vincent could cut my head off anytime he wants to!

How does one get text messages from the show? Did you have to sign up for that somewhere?

ANd I bet he sliced many vegetables for his mom.....cut the heads off his sisters' dolls, and just performed demonstrations for the neighborhood kids.

You can sign up on the CI page - the link is in the Community tab, just in case this link doesn't work.... or follow the instructions and do it from your cell phone @

http://www.usanetwork.com/series/criminali...mmunity/mobile/


Yeah, I imagined a community of headless dolls left in his wake...

FusseKat, I love the new avatar. I read in an e-mail that the average man's penis is three times the length of his thumb. THUD.

Interesting factoid

I was ranting about the spoiler boxes. Once the episode starts airing (anywhere) i dont' think we should have to use them. If you're in the west coast...just know that the east coast sees it...what, 3 hours before you? if you don't want spoilers...don't look at the thread. It's the same as choosing whether or not to click the spoiler box.

I'm just annoyed having to click so much.

Well said, and I agree, I loved this one...maybe since it was so obvious that VDO was enjoying himself. It was just plain fun. It was a nice break from all the tension of the previous couple of episodes. Now, lets get back to business!



Good points KRod.



ITA! The Goren show is back in town, lolol...and Eames looked a bit more relaxed to.




Oh yeah, he looked great!



Nope, we don't do the texting thing...hubby has the phone at work all day. Maybe I need to get a cell phone of my own??



Hmmmmmmmmmm................

There are so many ways I could go with that statement, but I think I'd better not.......

hahahahaha, holy sheep, hahahhaha!!!

How many of us women on the boards are going to try to measure the thumbs of their spouse, or s.o.? ::SNICKER::
you're right g_v/hb......::THUD::!!!!

i loved this episide !! when i saw it was about magic i was like awww vincent always wanted to be a magician. he was too cute in it!!

VDO is soooooooooo cute in this episode...

I LOVE this VDO picture in your signature!!!!!!! He looks HOT!

Well he did say it was his best feature and sadly, I just have to take his word for it.
His hands are so very demonstrative. I could see him being a magician if he were not an actor.

My best friend didn't get to see this episode on Sunday, so I called to let her know it was on tonight. I've been telling her how good it was and how much fun it was to see VDO doing magic. Since I have satellite, it was on 3 hours earlier for me. But I put my tape in at 7:00 and watched it at the same time she was watching it. She called me when it was over and she said it was good, but I could tell she didn't love it as much as I did. She said that it was too fantastic, that it couldn't really happen in real life. This seems to be a common complaint of hers when she watches TV or movies--yet one of her favorite shows is Desperate Housewives. Go figure!

But I have to admit, she had a question that I have and that I still don't understand. Just how did Dean get the body out of the casket, out of the safe room, into his car, to Coney Island (not clear on the geography involved), out of the car, back stage, and into the box--without help and without being seen? I know he's a magician, but if there was a trick, what was it? Or would it violate the code to reveal it?

I loved this episode, and I decided to ignore the many plot holes. I am not a nurse but my sister is and I know she spent a lot of time during her training moving people around in their bed so that they would not get bruises and flesh wounds (decubitus?). Also - good point about the beard, how did it not grow?? Maybe he was too young to have a beard

The guess the murderer made about the "betrayal"... that is pretty general. And Bobby started to squirm when he said that so the magician knew he was on to something. I wonder - if this episode was filmed BEFORE Purgatory, what did they mean by it? It can't have been his undercover job.

They were smiling and laughing so much in that episode, it was fun but a bit strange maybe I'm not used to it anymore. Alex's laugh when the mind reader told her she had "anger issues" was definitely forced.

Cute: him doing tricks for her, the hands touching when she brought him coffee...

Alex seems to do be a lot more involved lately. But when she was playing with the props in the end scene... that was strange, that's not Eames. But in general - thank you dear writers to give us back the Team!

I do agree that the writing seems less intense than it used to be. None of the crimes "touch" me anymore. It's now simply two detectives solving lala crimes. But as long as those two are VDO and KE it's fine with me

What's with Ross and Rodgers??? I want to know more!

The hispanic girl who found out about the box, was it her who flirted with Wheeler in the first episode of season six? And where do I know the blonde detective from?

I want to know more about Ross and Rodgers, too! But I'll be happy with just a hint now and then. You are right, the Hispanic girl is the same one who flirted with Wheeler. I hope she shows up more, I like her. And the blond detective has been around before. I think she was in Privilege last season, and I think she's been in a few others but I can't remember specific episodes right now. She seemed to be enjoying Bobby playing with the magic tricks, too.

I also like recurring staff, like the girl from ballistics. It's always nice to see "familiar" faces, especially since the steady cast consist of only three people plus Rodgers. Someone mentioned Rodgers hair - is it red again??

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There ya go!! I'm still waiting for Nicole Wallace to come back. Those are the shows that really show Goren's many layers. She gives him a chance to show what he can do as a detective and as a human being, as well. I love to watch the two of them go after each other. It's like Sherlock Holmes and Moriarty!
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I so much want to see her back in an episode. I think she is great. I think the TV guide artlcle mentioned her. So maybe there is real hope for her return.

Ha, how many of us have studied those hand with the long slender fingers and the big feet and wondered about the one bit of his anatomy that we have not seen. Those of us that have seen Guy have seen everything but that, even the pubic hair. I have my own theories but will keep them to myself. My fantasies.

Lenore', check out the Nicole topic, I posted why Bobby needs her back. She is such an asset to LOCI!

Check out "Claire Dolan"...in the last scene that Eldon and Claire have sex, when he's a bit violent with her, VDO raises his left knee and pushes up a bit and then...something makes a very brief, very quick appearance. I saw a flash and then had to rewind and go forward on slo-mo...husband verified sighting. Still...it could have been my very, very overactive imagination!

Speaking of Vanishing Acts...my TV schedule originally showed CI for tonight at 10:00...now...it has vanished and I'm ticked! They have put in a new Canadian show instead....ARGHHHHHH!!!! So now, instead of just waiting an extra 4 days to see the episode I have to wait until CTV deems it the right time to watch the show...very frustrating!

Someone said somewhere that it has been moved to Friday night at 10 (I think) for Canadians. Check out tomorrow's schedule. I hope you get to see it because it's an awesome episode.

Thanks! I checked and you're right! I'm really looking forward to this episode!

Really? Hmm...now I know what I'm doing when I get home from work.