Via The Reel, the casting breakdown for epi 22, the last appearance of Mike Logan. Read and see if you don't perceive an ominous end for Mike Logan.

http://www.thereelvincentdonofrio.com/loci..._breakdown.html

I must be missing something (not an unusual occurrence for me), because all I see is L/W investigating how an old case is related to a current crime. What is it that sounds ominous to you? I won't be too surprised if they do have a bad ending planned for Logan (I can't even say it), but I would be SADLY, SADLY disappointed.

The possible clues I see are:

1. The name of the episode is Last Rites
2. Somebody being taken to an ambulance been worked on by a paramedic
3. Ross and Wheeler (not Logan) are updated on the status of a person of interest's prognosis
4. The casting call does not have a "guest lead" they are supporting or 1-2 scene actors
5. The story seems to be about a cold case, not a current case where somebody has just recently been hurt

It's entirely possible that Logan is hurt to the point he can't work anymore, but remains alive.

My thoughts exactly, especially #3.

This character has had a 20-year run in the L&O universe. All things come to an end. Perhaps this will be a meaningful death. Perhaps Chris Noth wants it that way.

I'll be on pins and needles until August 24th.

Well, we had this discussion going in the thread about him leaving....most of us think he WILL be killed off, then given a grand Irish wake and full police funeral with the kilts, and the bagpipes, and the dress blues.....much better for Mike Logan than just getting his retirement gift and leaving, or getting on the elevator and waving goodbye to Wheeler, or walking off down the street....no riding off into the sunset for Mike Logan. He will go out in a blaze of glory, on the job, in the line of duty, with his boots on, all the cliches lined up in a row, spit-shined, polished and pretty.

Chris Noth has stated he's ready for "big screen" work only, after the sucess of SATC (which was mainly due to "Carrie and friends" and NOT Mr. Big, imo.....); he doesn't seem interested in TV work. After the bad blood over the way he "left" the mothership, and had his character sent to Staten Island to be simply "mentioned" (until the movie about him came out), I really think he has no interest in working for DW anymore......

So, he will most likely be killed off......

BEcause it is Chris Noth's choice to leave,I feel that he will be killed off. If the writers thought it was plot-driven that he leave, they could leave him an out. Not the case here.

I soooo want him to be killed off. It's not because I don't like Logan, but he's going anyway... let him go out on a big, dramatic episode. Anything else just seems like it would be anticlimatic.

It would be sad if they kill him off.....

However, I was hoping they would tie up loose ends with Whoopi Goldberg's character. Wasn't that an open-ended episode in season 5??? I thought she would come back for another episode... THEN have a Logan big-bang-ending LOCI fans will never forget!

That's the only way I see Logan going....

But I know that's not what The Reel shows.......

(just my wishful thinking, although I really hope Logan doesn't die!!!!!!!!!!)

And yes, indeed, I did miss it. Thank you Arwenelf. The name didn't bother me since the titles of episodes can have more than one meaning. But I did not see #2-4. Must be in denial.

::SOB::

Don't know if I can take it. Where are my tacos and Triple Chocolate Cheesecake?

It saddens me when I see you unhappy, mom. Want to cry on my shoulder to make you feel better?

Ah, thank you. You're a good son. You are a son, right? Yeah, you mentioned a girlfriend--but I guess that doesn't prove anything, does it? You would think a mom would know these things!

It would be dramatic, but terrible for the Logan fans. Imagine how we all would feel if VDO was killed off? I don't think I could bear to watch reruns, knowing that Goren eventually died. The same might be true for Logan's fans.

I agree with you. Logan just started growing on me and I really like, although not as much as Goren but I don't want to see him killed. Can't they just let him leave in a dignified manner? jmho

You sound kinda derogative. Maybe you don't mean to, but this is exactly how I want to see Logan leave, frankly. I love him, but he needs a good send-off.

Yes, it's pretty clear, the victim is ...Wheeler's fiancé.
What ? Why not him ? If he is the victim in the last episode, then it could explain why it's just Wheeler and Ross who are informed about his prognosis, she calls him because she wants his permission to investigate his aggression (and after Goren and his potential father, Eames and her husband , himself and Kathy...he can hardly refuse...)and then, the "victim" doesn't appear in the casting notice since he was already cast for the previous episode. So Ross accepts and let her investigate with Logan about this case and their investigation leads them on an old case.
Why think the worst for Logan, just because Noth is leaving and the title is Last Rites ??? ok,ok, forget what I said you all are probably right to think they are going to kill him.
But I'm still curious and suspicious about Wheeler's new boyfriend. He's introducted in Contract, he 'll appear in person in Neighborhood Watch... isn't that too much ? Nobody else think it isn't innocent and something is planned around his character ?

I dunno... maybe there is a pleasant way for Logan to leave the show. I just can't think of what it would be. He'll never get promoted, too much water under the bridge. There's really no lateral move out of MCS, so anything else that leaves him on the force would be another demotion. I don't anyone wants to see that.

So the other choice is to leave the NYPD. I'm having trouble picturing it as a positive thing. He's such a cop... what would he do? I suppose he could quit in protest of something, but what then? Maybe it's just my deficient imagination, but every scenario I can think of ends up with him sitting at the end of a bar wayyyy too much. I dunno... maybe he could take up fishing or something.

I'd rather see him die doing what he believes in.

Why can't he fall inlove and have to go into witness protection like the DA from SVU.

Well I guess he'd find out what there is to do in Albuquerque at 10 on a Sunday.... lol.

That's not a bad idea... he falls for a witness and goes into the program with her to protect her. And... yanno... other stuff to.

Another clue I saw was that one guy they listed as being questioned by Wheeler alone, not Wheeler and Logan.

Does Logan get killed?
Guess it depends on what kind of exit interview CN had with Dick Wolfe.

I have a feeling Noth burned the bridge. Not usually a smart thing to do.

I would hate to see Logan die also but if Chris had a say in the matter and he was OK with it then fine-
Remember once he said that hitting someone else, I forget who, would have been worth ten more years in Staten Island-
But I do think that Chris has no plans to ever return as Logan-
Really liked Logan and talking about great partners, there was never any bette than when Jerry Orbach and Chris were partners-now they were great together-two tough, more old school, New York's finest-
Regi.

I've decided denial is the way to go. I'll believe Logan gets killed when I see it.

::puts finger in ears and starts humming::

Have you all thought about whether Chris Noth, the actor, prefers to go out in a big, juicy, dramatic death scene that puts a memorable cap on his 20 years of service to the NYPD?

There are few things an actor likes more than his own death scene (though many like playing crazy just as much.) VDO got his "Untethered" this season -- why not "Last Rites" for Noth? If death is in the cards for Logan, I say the LOCI writers are giving Noth a wonderful goodbye gift.

No cameos for Logan... if they decide to kill him off!! He could always come back as a ghost!!!

You are crackin me up, girl! LOLOL

I agree. I'm sure Noth, Like any professional, talented actor, would adore a juicy death scene. I just think that for practical reasons, they shouldn't. For some people it will ruin the reruns. Profit wise, I wouldn't do it if I were NBC Universal.

The cheesecake and tacos are prolly upstairs in the fanfic subforum, ciaddict, unless I ate them all on the Shattered thread.

::burp::



I KNOW! Now that I LIKE Logan a lot, they're probably gonna kill him off. Harumph.

It IS a dramatic way to go, as long as CN has no plans to return.



HAHAHA! Good one, meerkat! Where have you been?

Oh I don't know. How many people would feel that way.... a dozen? Two dozen? Most people will get over it. I mean, do you turn off old mothership episodes because they killed off Claire Kincaid?

You didn't save me even 1 piece of cheesecake? Tacos, don't need so much but I need my cheesecake.

I don't want him to die. I want him to just get another job somewhere else or something. Dignified imo. That way he could come back in future episodes if he wants or the writers need him.



No, I don't turn them off but I didn't watch L&O mothership early on. Didn't interest me. Jill Hennessy who played Claire Kincaid went to Crossing Jordan, one of my favorite shows which is no longer on anymore. Sorry OT. I didn't start watching the mothership regularly til Angie Harmon started as ADA. I love her.

Here ya go CIFan...

I couldn't name the actors or the characters of any of the Mothership ADA's except Jack McCoy and he's the DA now, right, since Fred left the show?

cifan, I believe KimT brought in some more cheesecake for you.



Thanks for the bailout KimT! I couldn't HELP it, I hadda eat the last piece.

No can't be M A S H all over again, It killed me when they killed off Henry Blake. Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Oh and Wheeler goes to his fav bar and he appears at the window. "I'm really not dead wheeler?"( already done on CI)

Or he does come back in a year, but they faked his death, and he really is in Witness protection and they couldn't tell wheeler or Ross.( SVU plot)

or

In season 9 he comes back and Season 8 for wheeler was a dream, but not for Goren/Eames but what about the rest of Major Case?(Dallas but trouble with Knotts Landing)

I like the idea of Wheelers fiancé, it works!



It was one of the prison guards from Stress-Position


AWWW poor ciaddict, I half know how ya feel, I don't want him to die either, but I wasn't always a huge Logan fan (he grew on me last year) so I'll be okay, but I get the feeling there might be a lot of upset fans on here when the episode airs!

ROTFL!!! all my favourite plots used up at once! I thought about the bar one, I thought about the SVU one, and the Dallas one made me laugh so hard! this is why I like ya Jryan!

Poor Henry! But just remember... then we got Potter... and he was great. We lost Trapper, but who could be sad about gaining BJ? And Charles was soo much more interesting that Ferret Face ever was.

Don't be too sad folks... there's great stuff ahead!

Falling for someone who (turns into) a witness....funny, sounds like how he ended up on CI to begin with!


KA23

I can see it now.... violent smuggling ring moving confederate Manolo Blahniks from Hong Kong... the only witness: Carrie Bradshaw. Keeping her safe will be a BIG job...

Thanks KimT.



Angie Harmon played ADA Abbie Carmichael. Can't remember the season but I remember being hooked on L&O then. She also crossed to SVU in the first season (I think) for a few episodes. She is the one I remember most because I loved her so much. The others, not so much.

I saw the cheesecake, see above.

I tend to agree.
I understand he got a part in a movie with Renee Zellweger and it seemed to me his stepping down from LOCI may have been related to that. Perhaps the Screen Actors Guild will not go on strike and cripple the film industry for a few months. If it did I suppose then there would be more time for Mr. Noth in Windsor for tea and crimpets .

Hubby would get a kick out of the 2 of you.....he's a HUGE M*A*S*H fan!


Hmmm......have given this much thought, here's my opinion, for what it's worth:
--an early post on this thread made a good point: epi titles tend to have different meanings in an epi.
--on one hand, this could be the death of Logan, which I would be quite sad to see. OTOH, perhaps the title is in regards to the cold case. I wouldn't want to see him injured and permanently off NYPD that way, like what happened to his old partner Ceretta on the mothership. Not a way I'd like to see him leave, IMO.
--intriguing to think it could be a wrap-up from another case Logan had worked on in his career. A few posters had mentioned the epi with Whoopi Goldberg, which would be a good epi, and I'd hope would bring back Det. Barek (I really liked her character!). Or, as some have pointed out, Logan was with the NYPD for nearly 20 years, so maybe it's from another case he'd worked during his long career.
--here's another thought: there's been several mentions during this season of Logan gaining "diplomatic" skills......could this be an opening for another position with the NYPD, or (gasp!) FBI, or another organization such as the Marshalls (as others have mentioned). As pfchristine, would say, "Just sayin".

If they kill off the character they kill off the character. Personally I think Logan should fall in love get married and leave the force and find out there is more to life but then again I'm not a screen writer either.

I think Chris Noth is bored with his character and looking for some creative new material also I think he stated in an interview that the show keeps him from spending time with his new son who evidently lives in LA. I don't think he is planning on returning. I hate to see his character leave since he is the only reason I actually watch the show (Noth not the character). However, I might consider watching Jeff goldblum(spelling) just to see how he is written on the show he is an fine actor as well.

ROTFLMAO Too funny! And yet, perfect somehow.....

I think Chris is Bi---- Bi Coastal that is. He has a bar in NYC and doesn't his girlfriend own a tea shop right across the boarder in Canada? I can't see him just leaving those behind for good. Chris seems like a NY kind of guy.

This would be a lot like the mothership episode from season 2 called 'Prince Of Darkness' in which Logan's second partner Sergeant Phil Ceretta (Paul Sorvino) was shot and wounded in a sting operation gone wrong. Phil didn't die but due to the injuries he got a desk job at a precinct closer to his home and left the Two-Seven. This of course led to Logan's third partner Lennie Briscoe (the late but still great Jerry Orbach).

I'm betting Logan isn't killed...maybe injured but not killed.

Besides Dick Wolf will want to bring Logan back to the Two-Seven for a guest star when the mothership takes the longest running drama series record away from 'Gunsmoke' so they can't kill Mikey, one of the most popular Two-Seven detectives ever.

The Vault

For the most part I did just that...really didn't like where the mothership went after about Season 7. Have seen a few of this season's mothership episodes...they're okay but I can't see myself making a big effort to watch. I am basically out of love with the original.

The Vault

I like your thinking, Vault. I don't wanna lose Logan, now that I really like him.

Vault, that's a good point about the mothership, didn't think about that. How soon is it until the mothership takes the record?