That's what I thought. Just making sure!

yea, i totally agree.



i noticed that shawn didnt say gus at the end, and one can only assume that when he pressed the button that he had hung up the phone, so that made no sense to me. but i didnt notice the other things.

that is sooo weird how gus called/texted shawn and shawn recieved the text message when he broke his phone and clearly didn't get a new one....strange....plus the whole time line/reunion thing...

but i am glad that the premiere was different than ur normal episode of psych. so...there's my 2 cents

can't wait for new episodes! and i love lassies moustach!

It was cool to have Lassie in a flashback.

WELL SAID!!! You couldn't have said it any better. This was one episode. Plus it was a season premiere. Give the season a chance. It was a little different than the usual Psych, but if you just tune into the show for laughs and laughs only then you will miss a lot. Those of us who have watched the show from day one understand what is going on here. Like sarcasm said, the show is evolving and so are it's characters. Season one could never be like season 2, just like season 3 isn't going to be like the seasons before it. I am sure the writers needed to introduce Shawn's mom, and yes she is going to be in at least 5 episodes, so this wasn't her only appearance. Plus they needed to catch us up with the ending from last year. Plus they had to add some laughs in there. I just think it's too premature to judge the show and say it stinks after only the first episode. Even James Roday said he thinks that this season will be the best so far. So let's just wait and see what happens.

Sadly, I wasnt thrilled with it...
it wasnt that great. The jokes were nice but the plot was lacking stuff. Anyway next weeks looks cool!!

Lassie with a mustache= ROCKIN!!! it made me laugh

Yeah. Best part of the whole eppy was lassy's 'stache and shawn's awesome FOOF hair! I cracked up! lawlzzz...

I LOVED the premiere! It was completely hilarious. Lassiter with a mustache is probably one of the most amazing things I have ever seen in my entire life.

Seriously.

I want to print a picture of it out and frame it because it's so amazingly awesome. I will cherish it.

I was really impressed by James Roday's acting in this. Psych is the only thing I've ever seen with him, so I assumed that he was strictly a comedic actor, but he was incredible. He was dealing with some pretty irrational feelings, but he managed to pull them off so that the audience could understand why the character felt that way. That's a hard thing to do. I'm currently studying acting, and, in my opinion, it's so much easier to get into the mindset of a character whose reasoning is logical. I was really impressed by him.

Lassiter was so amazing in it. "And that's when I realized that the towel that I was hiding under was my life... and the pool was third grade... and the diving board was my father." Or something like that. I can't remember exactly. But it rocked my world.

Lol I was very happy with the lack of Jules time. I'm sorry, but she annoys me. I'm not sure if it's Maggie or the scripted character, but MY GOD! No talking, woman! (haha I'm probably gonna be tracked down by rabid fans, now)

This is my first post on the Psych board, so I just want to say 'hi' to everyone here!

In the pilot, the conversation goes something like this (paraphrasing, not word-for-word):
Shawn: Dad, you didn't tell me you were back in town.
Henry: Well you didn't tell me when you left.
Shawn: That was different
Henry: How?
Shawn: I was busy, helping my mom through her divorce

I took that to mean that Shawn was "helping his mom" in the time immediately after leaving Santa Barbara (probably right after high school), and not that he had been with her recently. It sounded to me like he took off after high school, stayed with his mom for a little while, then embarked on all his other travels.

I also see that last quote from Shawn as almost a "kick in the face" to Henry. Like he's making Henry look like the bad guy... a guilt trip, if you will.

My family and I are huge psych fans. However, I hope that the season premier is no indication of the remainder of the season because it was horrible!! I did not think it was creative or in the normal Psych style. Did they get new writers? (I have been meaning to check). Here are my issues:

1. I am done with the dad and Henry tension. I liked how they had been getting along as of late. The banter in season two was just the right amount. They were a great team. I feel like the writers are trying to recreate the bad Henry/Shawn vibes from the pilot, which were annoying. I think we all have enough bad tension in our lives...we do not need to watch more on TV>
2. The story line was not creative and made Gus look incompetent. Although I hated the story line, as it was, Shawn should have turned in the bad boss for illegal activity. What is up with the blackmailing thing? It is very unlike Psych. Also, the writers should have written in a crime in which Gus would have helped solve it, so he truly looked good in front of his boss. Gus is always trying to help solve the crimes and at time is instrumental. This episode made him look like an incompetent sidekick, which he is not.
3. Where were Jules and the Captain? They are great characters, which usually add humor to the show.
4. Cybil Sheppard. Why does she need to be on this show? Look, I am a huge fan of hers, but not on this show. This is not Moonlighting 2008. I feel like she is the huge elephant in the room and is unintentionally overshadowing the rest of the cast. Unless, she is going to add humor kick her off.
5. Storyline inconstancies. There were numerous inconsistencies like the timing, who left who, when was the mother last seen. Also, at the end of season two, Shawn opens the door at his father's house and says "Mom." Then in this season premier, he asks his father why he did not tell him that his mom was there.
6. Poor marketing. Look, I am in marketing and think that this was a horrible season opener beginning with the non descript and annoying Ebony and Ivory ads. I invited a large group of friends over to watch the show since I constantly talk about how great it is. This would have been a great way to acquire new people to the show. However, it was horrible and none of them laughed. I was embarrassed and had to show them an old episode afterward to prove it used to be a good show.

Ok, I could go on and on, but will save your eyes.

Here is to hoping the next show is better,
Christine

well...i think the show did great a lil curse heavy from normal but great nonetheless and the ebony and ivory ad in my opinion is a psych fan staple but i guess we all have our own opinions

here's to thinking the show was great as it was,
monica

okay...so there are a lot of mixed feelings in this episode, but you have to remember that psych is only an hour show. you cant have everything and expect the writers to put in shawn's mom's appearence, the relationships between shawn-henry, shawn-mom, henry-mom, gus & his job, solving a crime, gus keeping his job in the end, lassie, jules, chief AND still adding the funny stuff into 1 1-hour episode. and if they had split the episodes up, ppl would be complaining about 'well, where's so-in-so?' i think everybody did a pretty good job, although i would of liked to see jules & chief a little more. sure, this episode was a little different than other psych episodes, but it was a nice change and i'm sure the other episodes will be better.

I actually thought this was one of the best Psych episodes I have ever seen. It was really funny and actually had some good suspense. Yes, some character development was sacrificed and other plot angles were not fully explored, but I thought they packed a ton of story into that hour. Great episode.

1. There is no such thing as ghosts.

2. Shawn doesn't believe in ghosts. So, when he is playing along, he is up to something.

3. The boss didn't believe in ghosts. The clues to the affair and smuggling operation weren't found until after they went to his house about the "ghosts".

The mood of the whole episode was down, especially with Shawn. It made me think is there something going on in James Roday's life that's affecting his work.

I was wondering about that. I thought that was some 70's magazine and Shawn grew up in the 80's and 90's.

I found this transcript from the pilot. It also doesn't say that Henry has been back in town for a year.

Shawn: Hi dad.
Henry: Shawn:
Shawn: You didn’t tell me you moved back.
Henry: You didn’t tell me you moved away.
Shawn: That was different.
Henry: Was it?
Shawn: Yeah, I was busy trying to help my mom through her divorce.
Henry: Well, it’s nice to see you, too, son.
Shawn: Can I come in?
Henry: No. I was on my way out to lunch. You can come with me if you don’t bring this thing.

Henry looks at Shawn’s motorbike. Shawn rides with his father.
Later, they sit at a restaurant.

Henry: When I was in the department there were two things I hated in this world. Private investigators and psychics. Congratulations kid. You just hit the disappointment exacta.
Shawn: Thank you, thank you very much. It sort of happened by accident.
Henry: What are you gonna do when you get caught? Move out of town?
Shawn: I’m not gonna get caught.
Henry: Shawn this is just like everything else. Three months from now, you’re gonna be on a bus going to Minneapolis ‘cause you found your calling as a weatherman.
Shawn: It’s not like that this time. Have you been listening to me? I finally figured out a way to use my special gift. You should be thrilled! You’re the one that made me this way. I’m good at this.

I agree with most of your points. I don't see how anybody thought this episode was funny. It goes to show that some people have dry humor.

For #2, Gus' supervisor was single, didn't believe in ghosts, and was the one putting the pressure on Gus to give up the Psych business. So, Shawn couldn't trick him. Gus' supervisor's boss didn't believe in ghosts, but his wife did. So, the reasons why Shawn didn't turn the boss' crime into the police is...1. Gus can keep working in Psych and keep his pharmaceutical job, also. 2. Gus gets a raise, which also helps out Shawn. 3. If Shawn would have turned in the boss to the cops, Gus would have probably been fired from the pharmaceutical job by his a-hole supervisor.

I feel for you on #6. I was thinking that I'm glad I didn't recommend people to watch Psych right before this episode.

Why thank you! I'm glad you and I are on the same page lol. And I'm sorry for your log in problems. Anywho, where'd you hear Cybil signed on for five, last I heard the count was up to three.

When Shawn got pulled over on the way to the cabin the first time, the officer said he had met up with Henry at Home Depot and Henry said he had been back a year.

I could go on and on about this ep. I loved Cybil Sheppard, the plot, and the whole thing with Lassiter. I thought it was really good.

I find it unbelievable that anyone could have thought the Season 3 premiere was good. Psych appears to have jumped the shark. Not only was the script terrible but they wasted valuable time in several of the scenes. If you add a character, the other characters get less time -- sometimes it works but often it doesn't and can be viewed as a desperate attempt to hold onto an audience. I'll watch the next episode but if isn't any better, it's bye bye which will be unfortunate because there isn't a whole lot worth watching on TV no matter how many channels you have.

Oh well, to each his own as they say. I am a true Psych fan, I love love love Shawn and Gus. Although I wouldn't rate this episode as the best, it was good as far as a season opener is concerned. If you have followed the show from day one then you would understand that it answered a lot of questions. I don't think it was meant to be like a regular episode. Plus you can't judge season 3 by one episode. Psych rules no matter what anyone says.

Hey there, I have been wondering where you were . Thank you for posting. I know you have been around for awhile. So many seem to be dissing on the show. I too thought it was good, you have to know the whole background of the show to appreciate this episode, if you don't know it then you'll be a bit lost. I am looking forward to more. I love James and Dulé, Shawn and Gus, they could show them talking to a wall for an hour an I would be happy.

I don't think anyone is judging season 3 on just the premiere episode. After all, we haven't seen those episodes yet.

Secondly, a fan who is truly invested in PSYCH and it's future need to get their blinders off and look at these shows with a much more analytical eye. We can't keep praising episode after episode and let substandard episodes like this slide. Even some of you who liked this episode concede that this wasn't one of the best.

Don't be under the impression that those who didn't like this episode aren't true fans and are just here to mess with the show and the show's fans. Like the other person earlier said, I too would hold Psych showings here at home because I want to share this truly great show with other people. I pester them to watch it. I remind them when they forget. I pester them to buy the DVDs. I want this show to be good and keep on being good.

If we do nothing but praise this show and ignore the cracks, the people making this show would become complacent. The actors will become complacent. The writers will get complacent, knowing that whatever the heck they write will get nothing but praises from us.

And do you know what happens when the creators of a show become complacent? The show starts to SUCK. And when a show starts to suck, it gets CANCELLED. Who wants that? You don't want that, and I don't want that. We want the show to be on as long as possible. And for this show to have a long life, it needs to be GOOD all the time, and we fans need to be there to say something when we see something that's not going right.

There's a lot of things that wasn't right with this premiere episode. You all need to step up and say it, if you notice it. If you think this is the greatest episode of Psych, then that's fine! The creators need as much praise and encouragement as they do criticism.

But if anyone else there's something wrong with it and don't say anything because it might piss people off or you don't want to sully your favorite show... well, you got to say something and say it now. I'm very sure the writers and people around the show are reading these boards and reading this very carefully.

Care enough about this show to tell them if there's something about it that bothers you! I'm sick and tired of favorite shows getting cancelled on me and I don't want this show to get cancelled. Let's help keep the creators of this show on their toes!

PAK31, like you, I can watch an entire hour of just Shawn and Gus talking. I would love that. But man, if that's all there is, that's a sure fire way of getting this show cancelled. Sorry to say that, but that's how it will be. I don't want to be here in this same spot a year from now reminiscing about how great a show Psych was.

Me too. And you're right, you have to be a true Psych fan to understand how important this ep really was. And even if it didn't explain anything, I don't get what people think was so bad about it.

The first time I watched this episode, I was a bit disappointed. However, I did think it was funny that Gus claimed Shawn as a dependent (I just wish I could do that with my 2 cats). After the second time, I felt the eppy was supposed to be an 1.5 hours - the plot seemed as though it had been edited too much - like many have said. An extra 15-20 minutes of story would have made the difference. Oh well...

For those who don't know about the pharma industry, the repackaging and sale of prescription samples is illegal and unethical. If someone in upper management would do such a thing, implies that there are major problems in the company's corporate culture. Shawn would not have to contact the police; a call to the regional FDA office would create bad local (and national) press, bad public and investor relations for Gus's company than the SBPD could ever manage.

So Shawn's extortion ploy was probably more effective in protecting Gus. If Shawn did contact the FDA, the VP (and anyone else involved in the scheme) would be facing federal charges and the company overall would be scrutinized,which could result in a consent decree, inventory/records confiscation and million $ fines - in other words, very UGLY situation.

Extortion is supposed to be a tricky game, it can easily backfire - maybe Steve Franks and friends are saving that for later in the season.

Me neither. I think some are being too critical about the ep. My husband saw it for the first time last night and he's not a big fan of the show like I am but hell, even he liked it. It had its typical Psych funny moments plus added scary elements. He laughed his ass off when Gus dragged Shawn across the floor.
I guess we're idiots for liking it, so be it. Yeah, I'm pretty much done with this thread cause it's just pissing me off.

Aw, gee, so much negative energy on this topic! Everybody's special and entitled to their own decisions. And we're all true psych fans. If we weren't, I highly doubt that we'd waste our time posting on this board. In conclusion, love thy neighbor... even if they like/don't like the new episode.

I'm sorry if you go into a sugar coma after reading that XD

yea, i that's the 1st thing i thought of after the eppy was over.



amen to that!

Wow, there really are some mixed feelings about this episode. That's fine, everyone is entitled to their own opinions as long as they are expressed as constructive criticism.

Me personally as I have stated a few times prior in this thread really enjoyed the premiere. I felt that it was one of the best episodes of the show thus far because of the tremendous amount of chracter development we received.

Sorry I don't understand this, but what was the whole dry ice thing when Shawn recapped how he pulled off being the ghost? thanks

It actually is my fave eppy! I don't see why people hated it so much... Meh...

I think that was just to freak the Dutch-Indo (Dutch-Indo - yeah!) maid out into thinking that the place was really haunted - that was a good detail to include, because the first time I saw that, I thought there was something wrong with the picture for some reason.

And it was funny that Shawn was served "pankkoek" - it would've been great to actually hear some Indonesian, though, even an "aduh" ("oh my!")...

I have to admit that I have found Shawn and Gus fighting scene to be funny, but the show was a little dry to me and this isn't the first time that I have watched an episode and find it to be dry.

I know that Gus is a smart man, but I am surprise he didn't pick up the fact that Shawn was behind the "Ghost" thing. Why? Because, both Shawn and Gus are scary men. LOL, Examples: (Scary Sherry: Bianca's Toast - Both Shawn and Gus ran to Gus' car screaming like girls) and lets now forget, Shawn (And Gus) of the dead (Gus running out of the museum, knocking the security guard down and Shawn running in the woods, when they seen the mummy behind the wheel in that van.)

Another thing, Shawn was so forgiving towards his mother, even after finding out that she left his father. It was because of her, he didn't have a good relationship with his father. He always had a hatred towards his father, because he blamed his father for the divorce. I hope now that he knows the truth, he will treat his father right. They need to get alone, because they both needs each other.

I was surprise in a way to find out that Gus is carrying Shawn on his taxes. I have yet to find out how he is doing that, because they both work for the police station and I am sure taxes are taking out of their checks. On the other hand, I can see why Gus would carry Shawn on his taxes. He's taking care of Shawn in a huge way. He has a job away from their Psych business and Shawn doesn't and that means, when they don't have a case, like they didn't, when Lassie was solving all those crimes - Shawn didn't make money to pay for things.

Gus is truly a best friend to Shawn. What would either do without the other?

I'm new to the forum but not the show. I liked this episode. I thought of it as one of those 'move the story along' kind. One jarring bit I noticed was Shawn's room. Henry would have never left Shawn's room as it was. Shawn's room should have been turned into a home gym and referred to as Henry's 24 Hour Fitness. The Shrinky Dinks, Furby and Magazine should have been in a box that Shawn rifled through while sitting on a workout bench. It could have been shot with an open closet with the light on in the background so that it was obvious where Shawn got the box. The dialogue wouldn't have needed to change.
The other missed opportunity for clarity was Shawn's mother's wonder at his lack of second dates. Any real mother would have spotted the problem right away. His sartorial choices clearly! He's always commenting on someone's good or bad hair and denegrates Henry's wardrobe but never looks in the mirror himself. He dresses like a cross between a reject from the gay rodeo and and your uncle after he flunked his civil PE Exam in 1973. When Shawn hugged his mother in the last scene he looked like the Hunchback of Notre Dame, but without the rope skills and bell ringing that attracts the ladies. It's becoming very distracting. Like Shannen Doherty's low eye or Catherine Zeta-Jones' man hands. I hope that someone from the show can do some intervention. I recognize that many shows have already been shot but maybe they could do some changes for the holiday show (if they have one). He could have an epiphany. Maybe on the Feast of the Epiphany. He could be looking in the mirror and say "Why am I dressed like Michael Douglas in Falling Down?" or "Why do I look like an extra on Urban Cowboy?" depending on if he went plaid or snaps that day. Then 3 Elvis impersonators could come in but instead or gold, frankincense and myrhh they could have an assortment of dark solid t's and vertical striped shirts from Target, the Gap and Nordstroms. It could be a Christmas Miracle.

Kudos to Mr. Roday on his ALMA nomination. In the parlance of Mr. Spencer, "Dude, that's sweet."

I don't know who you are, but that's some funny stuff. It's not so distressing to read complaints when they're so entertaining!

I just have to say that I really liked the premiere. I pretty much agree with everyone else that already posted that said they enjoyed it also!!!

Omg, hilarious! XD

I'm completely juvenile, so I like the way Shawn dresses, but nonetheless I can see where you're coming from. Catherine Zeta-Jones' man hands... HA!

Did anyone else notice that James and Dulé received co-producer credit for this episode? I noticed it in the end credits.

I didn't notice that. I will have to check that out.

yea, i noticed that today...

Can anyone help me clear up something about the season premiere? I'm a HUGE Psych fan, but I'm trying to figure out if there's a timing problem. I dont' know how old Shawn is supposed to be in the series premiere two years ago, but in that episode, when he first reconnects with his dad, I believe they say it's been something like three years (maybe they say it's a "few," can't recall) since they saw each other last. And Shawn says he's been busy "helping his mother through the divorce." But then in the season premiere last week, they say Shawn's mom left without him, and he apparently stayed with his dad for a while. Anyone have insight on this?

I just rolled with it, but I vaguely remember the same thing....maybe he moved back with his dad when the show started (but then why was his room the same way it was when he was a kid? And all the more, where is he living now and how is he paying for it <especially when Gus said he had given/loaned him so much money, he "delcared him on his taxes {guess the police force isn't giving them enough cases?}"?>?), or did he just move back to town, and if that's the case, why was it such a big deal that mom was back in his life, if he....

Ok, I'm way too dizzy now......someone have a clue?

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I don't think it has been addressed specifically. Maybe they will expand on it in upcoming shows. From the clues they have given I thought it went something like this:

Henry and Madeline were having difficulties leading into Shawn's senior year. She was offered a job out of town (Maybe London?). When Madeline decided to take the job and end the marriage, Henry moved out for a short time so that she could pack her things, etc. After she left, Henry moved back in with Shawn. Shawn was busy with high school. He may have believed that his mother taking the job and moving away was the only way she could cope with Henry's supposed leaving of them. Shawn started acting out (stopped going to school, car theft). Henry made the decision not to say "Your mother left me, Shawn" because Shawn was clearly in a bad place and Henry didn't want to make him feel as disconnected from his mother as he clearly already felt about his dad. Henry bore the brunt of Shawn's anger because he knew that he had been too hard on Shawn. Maybe his parenting style had always been bad cop to Madeline's good cop and he realized that Shawn was too vulnerable to handle it. Kind of heartbreaking really.

i didn't hate the episode it just wasnt the best. AH WELL! This week looks better.

I'm sorry. I didn't finish.

After he stole the car his relationship with his dad was really wrecked. I mean Henry is a by the book, right is right and wrong is a felony kind of guy. No going back there. Henry had worked Shawn's whole life to make him a great cop and it all went to **** on him. So Shawn takes off after high school. He stays with his mom for awhile. But they don't talk about the divorce because Madeline feels badly. Guilty Mom Snydrome. She knows in her heart that Shawn imploded but she can't deal with it. She's enjoying her new life and Shawn's O.K. I mean he's her Shawnie and still being funny and that's all good. So then Shawn goes out and lives. Without the constraint of his Dad. He just keeps moving so that he doesn't have any time for introspection. He knows that his Dad moved to Florida for awhile. But he doesn't have any contact with his Dad and so neither of them know that they are both back in Santa Barbara until the cop stops him for speeding in the Pilot, series not Honda

that sound good to me!

Me too! The dates were really confusing me as well.

I thought the episode was great! maybe not perfect, but you can't get a perfect episode every week. It had a mixture of scary and funny (which is an awesome mixture) plus a lot of character development. I love Shepard as Shawns mom, i think she was great. I love the fact that Shawn and his dad still don't get along. It would be so boring if they all of a sudden became all lovey dovy towards each other. I think without the conflict the humour would be missing between the two characters. I also really like how the show is shaping up, I want to learn more about the charactors lives and it's nice change to see them serious in a few scenes. Thank you Psych cast and crew, you guys rock!