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vestokes
I guess it's no coincidence that Mike did an Aussie accent and Outback Restaurant sponsored the online epis on USA website.

vestokes
Fi having a wee bit of fun:


GetBurned
come on people give her a brake we have not seen where her character goes dry.gif it's only been 1 episode
she could next week be mean and put a gun next to his mom and say " you do what I say or I'll kill her"
Jolly
QUOTE (vestokes @ Jul 12 2008, 03:04 AM) *
Fi having a wee bit of fun:



I absolutely LOVE that mischievous look on her face in this scene!!!! It is soooooooo Fiona!! It's like she's letting him know if she really wanted to.........she could really put a hurtin on him!!!
LGia19
QUOTE (vestokes @ Jul 12 2008, 02:51 AM) *
Sam in Doll Clothes:


vestokes thanks for posting these pics!! these are excellent... very funny loved the whole episode... tiny shirts..... friends with ovaries.... and
how about ... the 'have a beer it did wonders for my ribs..'. line Ha. .. love Sam. Peace.
MinnesotaJoe
VERY nice touch with the closing line of Season 2, Episode 1 - did everyone catch it? "...the scent of an asset leaving the room." Flashback to Fi's (Gabrielle's) famous dance scene with Al Pacino in "Scent of a Woman," - one of the best scenes in movie hostory!
Garo
Loved the premiere, but did not like it when Fi agreed that they could not be together. This story line was half the fun. I love it when Fi demands to have one of her "talks" with Michael. Also, I do not like the idea that there is now a new character that has the ability to pull Michael's strings and do her bidding---bad, bad, bad!
Jolly
I was a bit shocked when Fi said they couldn't be together! I really didn't see that coming at all given the looks and comments she made up to that point! But...I think she really has drawn the line now and put the ball in Michael's court. Now she has said they can't be together, so if he wants to be with her he is going to have to make the moves! And that could be interesting!!
elisetx
QUOTE (MinnesotaJoe @ Jul 12 2008, 01:14 PM) *
VERY nice touch with the closing line of Season 2, Episode 1 - did everyone catch it? "...the scent of an asset leaving the room." Flashback to Fi's (Gabrielle's) famous dance scene with Al Pacino in "Scent of a Woman," - one of the best scenes in movie hostory!



Yes, I caught that too! Actually, a few refernces to "Touching Evil" would be fun! laugh.gif
PhilippaConnors
Having watched this a second time, I thought I'd offer some more thoughts.

Like others, I felt this episode took the focus off the primary characters and how they worked together as a team and put more of the focus on Michael's connection to Carla. And I found myself even *less* interested by the whole Carla/"who burned me" story arc on the second viewing - indeed, I found myself actively *disliking* the whole concept of Carla. But maybe I'm like Fiona and I just don't like the choice that Michael has made to continue down this road with these creepy shadowy people, you know? Obviously the season is young and I hope I can settle into the new vibe on the show - and it's still the best show out there - but in any event, here's what I found myself missing in the new episode:

* BN’s trademark irreverence - I didn’t feel it in last night’s episode. The voiceovers, use of the freeze frames, the client’s storyline and especially Michael’s cover story that he used were all played with more of a straight edge than a cheeky one.

* the sharp-edged humor that accompanied all those action sequences from last year (i.e. shooting the pretty-boy drug dealer through the wall using duct tape and a homemade silencer, then putting a gun to his head and threatening him while offering him a bandage and antiseptic and advice on getting to the hospital, lol). I miss the levity incorporated into the action scenes from earlier episodes.

* not as much focus on how Michael actually coordinates/sets things up on his jobs. For instance, in the opening scene somehow Michael gets the Cadillac out of that cargo truck. I saw him hop out of it earlier, so the ramp wasn’t down at that point, and then suddenly he’s just driving the Cadillac and somehow he’s gotten it out of the truck. Or when he just arrives at the office building with all his gear - we only see him drawing the blueprint at his loft. I realize this sounds nitpicky and I guess it is. *ahem* Ah, I dunno, guys -- it just seems to me that we got to see Michael doing more of that leg-work stuff in the earlier episodes (i.e., in season finale last year, building the sticky bomb, wrapping it up, taking it with him, putting it under the boat, etc, etc). I guess I'm referring to the MacGyver stuff, which I guess won't be as prominent now that Michael is working for Carla?

* And finally on a thoroughly shallow note, I miss Michael’s old hairstyle! I think he’s doing something different with his hair, but I can’t figure out what it is, lol.
coribbean
I totally agree with everyone who has expressed doubt or dislike about Carla--- HATE HER ALREADY!!

Maybe its because we all love Fiona so much. But my guess is that Carla and Fiona are going to have a showdown and....guess who wins?

Yeah!
PhilippaConnors
QUOTE (vestokes @ Jul 12 2008, 03:04 AM) *
Fi having a wee bit of fun:



I loved how she aimed between Michael's legs and that look he gave her - then freezing on her face. *LOL* It was one of my favorite moments in last Thursday's show, actually! I just love Fiona.
coribbean
That was brills. Loved the screenshot!! I think it perfectly captures Fiona's personality!!




QUOTE (PhilippaConnors @ Jul 12 2008, 04:27 PM) *
I loved how she aimed between Michael's legs and that look he gave her - then freezing on her face. *LOL* It was one of my favorite moments in last Thursday's show, actually! I just love Fiona.
Andy0Ander
OMG. luv luv luv the 1st episode of this season. All the voices that Michael does r just so funny. i luv the Australian accent & his face when Fi shoots in-between his legs...rotflmao.
vestokes
QUOTE (PhilippaConnors @ Jul 12 2008, 01:23 PM) *
Having watched this a second time, I thought I'd offer some more thoughts.

Like others, I felt this episode took the focus off the primary characters and how they worked together as a team and put more of the focus on Michael's connection to Carla. And I found myself even *less* interested by the whole Carla/"who burned me" story arc on the second viewing - indeed, I found myself actively *disliking* the whole concept of Carla. But maybe I'm like Fiona and I just don't like the choice that Michael has made to continue down this road with these creepy shadowy people, you know? Obviously the season is young and I hope I can settle into the new vibe on the show - and it's still the best show out there - but in any event, here's what I found myself missing in the new episode:

* BN's trademark irreverence - I didn't feel it in last night's episode. The voiceovers, use of the freeze frames, the client's storyline and especially Michael's cover story that he used were all played with more of a straight edge than a cheeky one.

* the sharp-edged humor that accompanied all those action sequences from last year (i.e. shooting the pretty-boy drug dealer through the wall using duct tape and a homemade silencer, then putting a gun to his head and threatening him while offering him a bandage and antiseptic and advice on getting to the hospital, lol). I miss the levity incorporated into the action scenes from earlier episodes.

* not as much focus on how Michael actually coordinates/sets things up on his jobs. For instance, in the opening scene somehow Michael gets the Cadillac out of that cargo truck. I saw him hop out of it earlier, so the ramp wasn't down at that point, and then suddenly he's just driving the Cadillac and somehow he's gotten it out of the truck. Or when he just arrives at the office building with all his gear - we only see him drawing the blueprint at his loft. I realize this sounds nitpicky and I guess it is. *ahem* Ah, I dunno, guys -- it just seems to me that we got to see Michael doing more of that leg-work stuff in the earlier episodes (i.e., in season finale last year, building the sticky bomb, wrapping it up, taking it with him, putting it under the boat, etc, etc). I guess I'm referring to the MacGyver stuff, which I guess won't be as prominent now that Michael is working for Carla?

* And finally on a thoroughly shallow note, I miss Michael's old hairstyle! I think he's doing something different with his hair, but I can't figure out what it is, lol.


In response to some of your comments:
Yes. I hate Carla but  I think that's the point. She's NOT lovable and that's planned. Yes. I don't know if this direction will get tired and like you, I'll just hold off to see in future epis.

You didn't think the freeze frame of the shot between Mikey's legs and Fi hanging out the car window with a smoking gun and a smirk on her face was cheeky?

In regards to levity, how about the kidnapped client in the trunk that's promised a ride up front if he behaves. Also, how about the use of the guns to frame the bad guys. Simple idea that worked pretty well. 

As far as the caddy in the trailer is concerned, the ramp was probably stored underneath the trailer. Though I know this can be a stickler for some viewers, I don't think we need to have everything spelled out.  Also, did you notice him loading the caddy up with this humongous bag. Again, I don't think we need a scene with Fi delivering Carla's guns. The biggest issue was getting into that computer room. The show IS only 43 minutes.

His hair is probably suffering from the Miami humidity.

I don't think I ever watch any show and dissect it like this. It's so much fun and I can't wait for next week's epi.
sailinganarchy
I love the show. But watch out for the gaffes.

First, the closing of season 1 has Michael driving up a ramp into the back of the truck. The ramp is NOT something that slides out and down from the bottem of that truck. Yet in the opening there is no ramp and Michael is in a big hurry. Backing the Cadillac out, even flooring it in reverse and the back end will go straight down. No doubt when on location the stunt driver told the director he was high if he thought it would work. How does the Cadillac get out of the truck?

Last, "Fighter pilots have a saying that speed is life." For everyone else the truth is that distance is life. The last action scene has Michael and Jimmy near enough that they do not need even binoculars to scam private security creeps. Worse they are in a boat. Something that is very easy to see move away from a crime scene. After an explosion there is one guarentee. Every news and poice air asset is at full military power headed in your direction. Any type of movement will attract the old mark 1 eyeball. Simply put michael and jimmy would not have been able to get away.

Jeffrey Donavon (SP?) seems like a rather smart guy and great actor. I guess a MFA shows that he has the brains to do more than just act. But as this show goes along I keep seeing bigger holes in the storyline. The holes seem easy for me to catch and I suspect that if these holes continue to be more frequent the audience will catch on. JD should read his scripts with more attention and may want to not be as kind to the writers, director and expecially those whose job it is to scout locations as he has been so far.


Great Show...should be on NBC.
coribbean
QUOTE (sailinganarchy @ Jul 12 2008, 06:48 PM) *
I love the show. But watch out for the gaffes.

First, the closing of season 1 has Michael driving up a ramp into the back of the truck. The ramp is NOT something that slides out and down from the bottem of that truck. Yet in the opening there is no ramp and Michael is in a big hurry. Backing the Cadillac out, even flooring it in reverse and the back end will go straight down. No doubt when on location the stunt driver told the director he was high if he thought it would work. How does the Cadillac get out of the truck?

Last, "Fighter pilots have a saying that speed is life." For everyone else the truth is that distance is life. The last action scene has Michael and Jimmy near enough that they do not need even binoculars to scam private security creeps. Worse they are in a boat. Something that is very easy to see move away from a crime scene. After an explosion there is one guarentee. Every news and poice air asset is at full military power headed in your direction. Any type of movement will attract the old mark 1 eyeball. Simply put michael and jimmy would not have been able to get away.

Jeffrey Donavon (SP?) seems like a rather smart guy and great actor. I guess a MFA shows that he has the brains to do more than just act. But as this show goes along I keep seeing bigger holes in the storyline. The holes seem easy for me to catch and I suspect that if these holes continue to be more frequent the audience will catch on. JD should read his scripts with more attention and may want to not be as kind to the writers, director and expecially those whose job it is to scout locations as he has been so far.


Great Show...should be on NBC.



Wow. Good analysis. I can tell you like the show and therefore, offer your critiques so that it would be better. Me too. I critique because I love. blink.gif
PhilippaConnors
QUOTE (vestokes @ Jul 12 2008, 06:19 PM) *
In response to some of your comments:

... You didn't think the freeze frame of the shot between Mikey's legs and Fi hanging out the car window with a smoking gun and a smirk on her face was cheeky?


Yeah, that one was funny - after I wrote what I did, I popped out an addendum to my post about that freeze frame, as it was my favorite scene in the entire show. Well, that and Sam wearing Michael's "doll clothes." *LOL* You're right about Carla - I don't like her and that's probably why I felt unhappy. And you're also right in that the show is only 43 minutes long and there was a *lot* of ground to cover in the episode. Ah, I'm just crazy in love with this show and I'm basically expecting every single episode to top the next. The BN cast and crew have spoiled me, what can I say?

QUOTE
I don't think I ever watch any show and dissect it like this. It's so much fun and I can't wait for next week's epi.


You know what? With respect to BN I've become one of those people like the ones who talk about oranges foreshadowing death in the Godfather movies, lol. The really funny thing about this, vestokes, is that I rarely watch television! It's hilarious to me. I read an interview with Jeffrey Donovan linked from here and he said something like, "Everyone talks about Mad Men" and I'm thinking, uhhh - never heard of it. *ahem* My 61 year old mom actually recommended I catch Burn Notice "because of that actor I love from Touching Evil" and I'm thinking, uhh...Burn Notice? Touching Evil? What in the heck are you watching, mom. *lol* Anyway, I am completely obsessed with this show, everything from the props to the locations and the sets and the wardrobe. I even thought about mentioning the red Fairlaine that I caught in the background in two separate scenes as one of the things that bugged me in this episode in my post but decided I'd look like too much of a crazy a** if I did (but now I figure I'm already looking nuts so what the hey).

Anyway, thanks for your thoughts on this episode (I've really enjoyed reading your posts here, btw - I came out of lurkerdom recently). 8-)
vestokes
QUOTE (PhilippaConnors @ Jul 12 2008, 04:06 PM) *
Yeah, that one was funny - after I wrote what I did, I popped out an addendum to my post about that freeze frame, as it was my favorite scene in the entire show. Well, that and Sam wearing Michael's "doll clothes." *LOL* You're right about Carla - I don't like her and that's probably why I felt unhappy. And you're also right in that the show is only 43 minutes long and there was a *lot* of ground to cover in the episode. Ah, I'm just crazy in love with this show and I'm basically expecting every single episode to top the next. The BN cast and crew have spoiled me, what can I say?



You know what? With respect to BN I've become one of those people like the ones who talk about oranges foreshadowing death in the Godfather movies, lol. The really funny thing about this, vestokes, is that I rarely watch television! It's hilarious to me. I read an interview with Jeffrey Donovan linked from here and he said something like, "Everyone talks about Mad Men" and I'm thinking, uhhh - never heard of it. *ahem* My 61 year old mom actually recommended I catch Burn Notice "because of that actor I love from Touching Evil" and I'm thinking, uhh...Burn Notice? Touching Evil? What in the heck are you watching, mom. *lol* Anyway, I am completely obsessed with this show, everything from the props to the locations and the sets and the wardrobe. I even thought about mentioning the red Fairlaine that I caught in the background in two separate scenes as one of the things that bugged me in this episode in my post but decided I'd look like too much of a crazy a** if I did (but now I figure I'm already looking nuts so what the hey).

Anyway, thanks for your thoughts on this episode (I've really enjoyed reading your posts here, btw - I came out of lurkerdom recently). 8-)



Yeah. My best friend doesn't watch TV either. She saw a commercial for the show at a electronics store and it peaked her interest. She had to call me to find out if she had USA network. Her building provided free basic cable so she was in luck. She also watched my Touching Evil DVDs and has become a JD fan. Also, now that they are online she watches it on her PC. Her TV screen is smaller, 19", than her PC monitor.

You hear the excitement even in the critiques of the show. You can still tell they are fans and are sticklers that will always want everything to fall into place. It's a testament to the multi-dimensions to the show that they continue watching. Also, they are generally smart quick people and the show is definitely that.
PhilippaConnors
QUOTE (vestokes @ Jul 12 2008, 07:19 PM) *
Yeah. My best friend doesn't watch TV either. She saw a commercial for the show at a electronics store and it peaked her interest. She had to call me to find out if she had USA network. Her building provided free basic cable so she was in luck. She also watched my Touching Evil DVDs and has become a JD fan.


It's good to know I'm not the only person out there who had never heard of the show or any of the actors or anything (although I'd heard of Sharon Gless but never saw her in anything). I'm a great admirer of JD's work - he's really wonderful and I'd put him right up there in my favorite actors list, somewhere near Robert Duvall and WIlliam Holden. 8-)

Forgive me for not staying on-topic, but I must say I could not *believe* how amazing Jeffrey Donovan was in Touching Evil. When I watched that first episode of TE I was floored by his performance as Creegan. That scene when he grabs that guy (the child kidnapper) and says he's lucky that he isn't a violent man, and everything that followed it? *shakes head in amazement* Wow. It was in awe just how good he was in that role (although my favorite moment is when he's talking to Susan on the airplane and says she has the look of someone who's just read his file, he says something to the effect of, "You look like you're afraid that I might get up jump on the food tray, maybe set myself on fire" - it's the way he says it, lol)...

anyway, this is sounding like I need to attend the JD-aholic support group meeting rather than talk about the premiere of BN so I'll head outta here for now. ;-)
Jolly
QUOTE (sailinganarchy @ Jul 12 2008, 06:48 PM) *
I love the show. But watch out for the gaffes.

First, the closing of season 1 has Michael driving up a ramp into the back of the truck. The ramp is NOT something that slides out and down from the bottem of that truck. Yet in the opening there is no ramp and Michael is in a big hurry. Backing the Cadillac out, even flooring it in reverse and the back end will go straight down. No doubt when on location the stunt driver told the director he was high if he thought it would work. How does the Cadillac get out of the truck?

Last, "Fighter pilots have a saying that speed is life." For everyone else the truth is that distance is life. The last action scene has Michael and Jimmy near enough that they do not need even binoculars to scam private security creeps. Worse they are in a boat. Something that is very easy to see move away from a crime scene. After an explosion there is one guarentee. Every news and poice air asset is at full military power headed in your direction. Any type of movement will attract the old mark 1 eyeball. Simply put michael and jimmy would not have been able to get away.

Jeffrey Donavon (SP?) seems like a rather smart guy and great actor. I guess a MFA shows that he has the brains to do more than just act. But as this show goes along I keep seeing bigger holes in the storyline. The holes seem easy for me to catch and I suspect that if these holes continue to be more frequent the audience will catch on. JD should read his scripts with more attention and may want to not be as kind to the writers, director and expecially those whose job it is to scout locations as he has been so far.


Great Show...should be on NBC.



I tend to notice those things too. I mostly don't let it take away from the show though. As for the ramp, what I see is right before he exits the trailer, looks like a 1 x 12 board up against the wall of the trailer. Could be what he used for the ramp if there was another on the other side. I assume since Carla wanted him to do something for him, she would have left a way for him to get the car out, even if it was visible. So maybe whoever opened the door, left him some nice ramps on the side!!!

As for getting away after the explosion, they were also close enough to the road and some trees that they could have gotten away unseen rather quickly while the law was rounding up the bad guys. We know Fiona was out there somewhere, so possibly she could have picked them up at the road!

But the one that bugs me, is the sunglasses!!! Right before Michael exits the truck, still squatting down...has a cellphone in one hand, gun in the other. You see him looking at the back of the truck, it then shows the back door opening and when it goes back to him, the sunglasses are on!!! So....where did they come from so fast!!! I can't explain it to myself!!!
Jadeblueafterglow
I happen to really dig Tricia on BSG, but honestly can't stand her on here. I know, that's what they're going for. She's supposed to be hated. It's not even a hate thing, though. I think the character just straight-up irritates me. I'm not feeling the whole phone sex voice either. Maybe she'll grow on me, but I doubt it. My loyalty lies with Fi.

I've rewatched the meeting with mercenary dude quite a few times, all because of the Australian bit. It cracks me up every time!

Fi shooting between Michael's legs? BC in the tiny shirt? That overly complicated card game? And Fi becoming Sam's girl consultant? Plenty of cheekiness!! Loved every bit of it. cool.gif
Laurel
QUOTE (Jadeblueafterglow @ Jul 12 2008, 08:30 PM) *
I happen to really dig Tricia on BSG, but honestly can't stand her on here. I know, that's what they're going for. She's supposed to be hated. It's not even a hate thing, though. I think the character just straight-up irritates me. I'm not feeling the whole phone sex voice either. Maybe she'll grow on me, but I doubt it. My loyalty lies with Fi.


About this Carla thing, I get the impression that a lot of fans are worried that something they love (i.e., the show) is going to change beyond recognition, and that's why they hate the idea of this new character having too much of an impact. I think we need to suspend judgment. She is irritating because she's jerking Michael around and we love and respect him and we don't want to see him suffer. We also don't want to see anyone succeed in puncturing his aura of being able to do the impossible, and she looks as if she could do it. She is not even remotely a potential replacement for Fiona, as she's a villain and Fiona is a sympathetic character.

What I'm a little worried about (yes, I admit I am worrying a bit too) is that the formula I enjoyed last summer, with Michael getting his jobs in roundabout ways through his mother or Sam or what have you, is going to change into Carla issuing him his marching orders. But it might make for more dramatic tension; you never know.

I do think BN is special, beyond other series I've enjoyed. I'm barely hanging in there from one week to the next!
coribbean
I would tend to agree with that astute assessment, Laurel.

And, let's face it: the show's storylines will have to grow and develop in unexpected directions otherwise, those of us who love it would quickly become bored and tune out. So the writers/producers have to keep it fresh. Now that the first season has established who Michael Westen is and what he's about, season two has to build upon that and take us places we (and Michael) might not necessarily want to go, but will nonetheless provide us with an intriguing journey.

hrstxb
OK. ...so I had to watch the premier twice to digest it. I liked it but not as much as the season finale 1.Anyway....

My fav scenes:

Fi tries to kick Mikes butt when he comes back.

Mike and Sam in Mike's shirt.Hilarious!

Mike, Client and the biggest gun on earth!

Fi and Mike break-up...killed me. but I understand the reason behind it.

Mike's Aussie accent and counting steps before the break-in.

The all time fav scene was the shoot-out between Mike and Fi. Awesome.

Mikes mom calls all worried about her son and he tells her to come home.

BN is still the best show on t.v.!
LGia19
QUOTE (hrstxb @ Jul 13 2008, 10:08 PM) *
BN is still the best show on t.v.!


I loved the action the drama but most of all the funny quips/scenes are so spot on.. (esp all of sam's)

hrstxb I'm with ya... especially your last line there!!! Long live Burn Notice... !! Peace.
Laur815
QUOTE (Laurel @ Jul 13 2008, 05:49 PM) *
About this Carla thing, I get the impression that a lot of fans are worried that something they love (i.e., the show) is going to change beyond recognition, and that's why they hate the idea of this new character having too much of an impact. I think we need to suspend judgment. She is irritating because she's jerking Michael around and we love and respect him and we don't want to see him suffer. We also don't want to see anyone succeed in puncturing his aura of being able to do the impossible, and she looks as if she could do it. She is not even remotely a potential replacement for Fiona, as she's a villain and Fiona is a sympathetic character.

What I'm a little worried about (yes, I admit I am worrying a bit too) is that the formula I enjoyed last summer, with Michael getting his jobs in roundabout ways through his mother or Sam or what have you, is going to change into Carla issuing him his marching orders. But it might make for more dramatic tension; you never know.

I do think BN is special, beyond other series I've enjoyed. I'm barely hanging in there from one week to the next!


Great post, Laurel. And I agree with you. I think some of us are a bit worried that Carla is going to change a pivotal aspect of the show, especially the idea of Michael finding his "clients" through unusual means. But at the same time, I keep thinking that Michael has to make money some how...and that only comes from his "charity" jobs. So I'm hoping that this season is a mix of both.

I also agree with you as Carla not being a replacement for Fiona. In my mind, no one can replace that woman. And I think with the recent Michael/Fiona "break-up", we'll just be seeing more of these two doing the mating dance that will eventually amount to a boat load of unresolved sexual tension. Not going to lie...I'm kind of looking forward to that. smile.gif

Is it Thursday yet?!
iamprepared
Loved the Premiere. They made us wait long enough for it. We live in Coral Gables, FL, and it's great to see the local places we see every week used in the show. For example, the place where the boat blew up is a little dirty restaurant/boat dock area called Jimbo's Shrimp Shack on Virginia Key. We kayak there all the time, see manatees in season, tons of sharks and rays too. It's right across the channel from Fisher's Island and is a nice little area. So happy BN is back on.

BTW - I am a HUGE BC fan, it's soo cool that he is on this show.

As to Carla - well, she is stunningly hot and duplicitious in BSG, but, not so much here. In fact, always being focused on her great wardrobe and her actions to eliminate mankind on BSG, I never focused on her voice. During the premiere, I quickly realized that when she speaks long dialogue sections, it's kind of irritating. But, then, I'm also a MAJOR Fiona fan (having met and worked with many driven, straight-shooting women just like her...), and think that BC, she and Weston make a hell of a TV team. I hope they don't ruin a great show and premise with some new character that doesn't add to the overall mystique and insanity of the first season. Just my two cents.
PhilippaConnors
QUOTE (DunderMichelle @ Jul 13 2008, 10:51 PM) *
Great post, Laurel. And I agree with you. I think some of us are a bit worried that Carla is going to change a pivotal aspect of the show, especially the idea of Michael finding his "clients" through unusual means. But at the same time, I keep thinking that Michael has to make money some how...and that only comes from his "charity" jobs. So I'm hoping that this season is a mix of both.


You put this so well, DunderMichelle. I'm just worried that the addition of Carla will take the focus off all the fun interplay between Sam, Michael, Fiona and the "client."

QUOTE (iamprepared @ Jul 14 2008, 09:54 AM) *
During the premiere, I quickly realized that when she speaks long dialogue sections, it's kind of irritating. But, then, I'm also a MAJOR Fiona fan (having met and worked with many driven, straight-shooting women just like her...), and think that BC, she and Weston make a hell of a TV team. I hope they don't ruin a great show and premise with some new character that doesn't add to the overall mystique and insanity of the first season. Just my two cents.


The "overall mystique and insanity of the first season" -- what a great way to sum up season 1 of BN, lol! I cannot say enough just how much *fun* I have had watching this show. Just this morning for some reason that scene from "Hard Bargain" (ep. 9) popped into my head, where the sniper has his rifle trained on Michael and Michael's showing off his Armani suit and does that little pirouette and says with such aplomb, "I look good, right?" *LMAO* Man, I love this show. laugh.gif

[edited only because I clicked on edit by mistake; thus I edited nothing. *rolls eyes*]
CAGilder
You know, all this talk about "Carla taking the focus off 'the client'" brings up a question for me... And one that might have a scary answer at that!

What is the focus of the show? Michael trying to solve his Burn Notice problem? Or Michael solving his clients' problems?

I believe it's a tightrope walk between the two... And at this point, I'm sensing the fans want to see more of the latter and not so much of the former.

But Michael wants to solve the Burn Notice dilemma, so Carla cannot be dealt with and put away so very quickly. Because once the Burn Notice problem is solved, where does the show go next?

(You know, the old "What if the Coyote actually caught the Road Runner?" question...)
vestokes
QUOTE (PhilippaConnors @ Jul 12 2008, 04:37 PM) *
It's good to know I'm not the only person out there who had never heard of the show or any of the actors or anything (although I'd heard of Sharon Gless but never saw her in anything). I'm a great admirer of JD's work - he's really wonderful and I'd put him right up there in my favorite actors list, somewhere near Robert Duvall and WIlliam Holden. 8-)

Forgive me for not staying on-topic, but I must say I could not *believe* how amazing Jeffrey Donovan was in Touching Evil. When I watched that first episode of TE I was floored by his performance as Creegan. That scene when he grabs that guy (the child kidnapper) and says he's lucky that he isn't a violent man, and everything that followed it? *shakes head in amazement* Wow. It was in awe just how good he was in that role (although my favorite moment is when he's talking to Susan on the airplane and says she has the look of someone who's just read his file, he says something to the effect of, "You look like you're afraid that I might get up jump on the food tray, maybe set myself on fire" - it's the way he says it, lol)...

anyway, this is sounding like I need to attend the JD-aholic support group meeting rather than talk about the premiere of BN so I'll head outta here for now. ;-)


Yes. I love when the flight attendant told him to put his shirt back on and sat down, he said, "Oh well and I've been working out."
vestokes
QUOTE (Jolly @ Jul 12 2008, 04:38 PM) *
But the one that bugs me, is the sunglasses!!! Right before Michael exits the truck, still squatting down...has a cellphone in one hand, gun in the other. You see him looking at the back of the truck, it then shows the back door opening and when it goes back to him, the sunglasses are on!!! So....where did they come from so fast!!! I can't explain it to myself!!!



Hey!!!! Don't be questioning the Sunglasses of Justice!!!! LOL!!!!
Comincorrect311
I thought episode 1 of Season 2 was the best of the series. This show, as much as I've loved it and watched it, always a slightly tame appeal, save for a few scenes in the first season. The show needed that extra kick of "grit" to really bring it together, and the first episode brought that in spades. The characters will always be the main reason we watch, but then again, watching them kick a little tail (i.e. Michael's rockin slow-mo grenade launching sequence) is what me, as a fan, cheered for. Great, great job by the writers/directors, and I hope they keep up the intensity for the rest of the season so season 3 can be a lock for next year!
Jolly
QUOTE (vestokes @ Jul 14 2008, 03:24 PM) *
Hey!!!! Don't be questioning the Sunglasses of Justice!!!! LOL!!!!


No questioning!! I just didn't realize they were magical!!! LOL! It's much better when he looks right into the camera and puts them on!!!!
phx1028
...yes, please Fiona, kick her a**! Twice!!
I agree w/some of the other posts & even though I liked the episode and I'm thrilled the show is back there was something a bit off. I realized it was Ms Helfer. I found her interpretation mostly credible, but predictible. I wish her voice was a better match to the V/O actress used at the end of Season 1, much more seductive and alluring with the right amount mystery. You got the sense of control she had over Michael and his situation, just from her voice. Ms Helfer's cadence, clipped diction and delivery is just out of the bullseye IMHO.

Still, I'm just happy to ogle JD's biceps, triceps, delts and glutes. ahem wub.gif . Yea Thursday nights and Sunday mornings (the re-airing). I'm a happy girl.
AlmostThere
QUOTE (vestokes @ Jul 14 2008, 03:24 PM) *
Hey!!!! Don't be questioning the Sunglasses of Justice!!!! LOL!!!!


I'm digging the fact that they have a title. It's very ominous sounding... *in deep, dramatic voice* The Sunglasses of Justice... cool.gif
vestokes
QUOTE (kaiulani @ Jul 15 2008, 12:59 PM) *
...yes, please Fiona, kick her a**! Twice!!
I agree w/some of the other posts & even though I liked the episode and I'm thrilled the show is back there was something a bit off. I realized it was Ms Helfer. I found her interpretation mostly credible, but predictible. I wish her voice was a better match to the V/O actress used at the end of Season 1, much more seductive and alluring with the right amount mystery. You got the sense of control she had over Michael and his situation, just from her voice. Ms Helfer's cadence, clipped diction and delivery is just out of the bullseye IMHO.

Still, I'm just happy to ogle JD's biceps, triceps, delts and glutes. ahem wub.gif . Yea Thursday nights and Sunday mornings (the re-airing). I'm a happy girl.



Most of us don't like the Carla character. I think I'm going to grow to love hating her though. 
coribbean
QUOTE (vestokes @ Jul 15 2008, 05:04 PM) *
Most of us don't like the Carla character. I think I'm going to grow to love hating her though.



Ditto on that!! dry.gif
phx1028
QUOTE (sailinganarchy @ Jul 12 2008, 05:48 PM) *
I love the show. But watch out for the gaffes.

First, the closing of season 1 has Michael driving up a ramp into the back of the truck. The ramp is NOT something that slides out and down from the bottem of that truck. Yet in the opening there is no ramp and Michael is in a big hurry. Backing the Cadillac out, even flooring it in reverse and the back end will go straight down. No doubt when on location the stunt driver told the director he was high if he thought it would work. How does the Cadillac get out of the truck?

Last, "Fighter pilots have a saying that speed is life." For everyone else the truth is that distance is life. The last action scene has Michael and Jimmy near enough that they do not need even binoculars to scam private security creeps. Worse they are in a boat. Something that is very easy to see move away from a crime scene. After an explosion there is one guarentee. Every news and poice air asset is at full military power headed in your direction. Any type of movement will attract the old mark 1 eyeball. Simply put michael and jimmy would not have been able to get away.

Jeffrey Donavon (SP?) seems like a rather smart guy and great actor. I guess a MFA shows that he has the brains to do more than just act. But as this show goes along I keep seeing bigger holes in the storyline. The holes seem easy for me to catch and I suspect that if these holes continue to be more frequent the audience will catch on. JD should read his scripts with more attention and may want to not be as kind to the writers, director and expecially those whose job it is to scout locations as he has been so far.


Great Show...should be on NBC.
vestokes
QUOTE (Jolly @ Jul 15 2008, 10:37 AM) *
No questioning!! I just didn't realize they were magical!!! LOL! It's much better when he looks right into the camera and puts them on!!!!


Yeah. As Bly told him. He does things with such style, it MUST be the sunglasses.
vestokes
QUOTE (AlmostThere @ Jul 15 2008, 02:03 PM) *
I'm digging the fact that they have a title. It's very ominous sounding... *in deep, dramatic voice* The Sunglasses of Justice... cool.gif


Yeah. Exactly. LOL!!!!
phx1028
I have to heartily disagree w/the show being on NBC or any other 'major' network for that matter. They would ruin it. The risk of 'dumbing down' the show for a broader appeal is a major concern. I love the unique, intelligent and innovative presentation of this (and other) show(s) on the USA schedule. Even the quality of writing here on the message boards is better than most of the fodder shown on the 'big 3.' Did I mention they would 'dumb down' the show?
The 'majors' can't handle something this great.
USA network PLEEEEASE don't sell this show to the majors - they'd kill the goose instead of reaping the golden eggs. Dare I mention the 'dumb down' factor again?, or would 4 times be overkill? wink.gif
kusa23
QUOTE (kaiulani @ Jul 15 2008, 06:19 PM) *
I have to heartily disagree w/the show being on NBC or any other 'major' network for that matter. They would ruin it. The risk of 'dumbing down' the show for a broader appeal is a major concern. I love the unique, intelligent and innovative presentation of this (and other) show(s) on the USA schedule. Even the quality of writing here on the message boards is better than most of the fodder shown on the 'big 3.' Did I mention they would 'dumb down' the show?
The 'majors' can't handle something this great.
USA network PLEEEEASE don't sell this show to the majors - they'd kill the goose instead of reaping the golden eggs. Dare I mention the 'dumb down' factor again?, or would 4 times be overkill? wink.gif


Kai, I'd have to agree, especially re NBC....but the other two aren't far behind....

NBC Killed off Studio 60.....Part of me wants to continue my boycott into next year, especially if Ice T is off SVU...which i'm somewhat suspecting

CBS Killed off great shows like Threshhold, Moonlight, and (ok, brains creaking....will have to get back to this, but I know there are many more!)

ABC, maybe I was in the minority, but I though Dirty Sexy Money...though honestly pretty much biting the big one in the beginning...was really building into something....and with Sutherland in the cast....PLEASE!!!!

NBC's Toggling L & O CI and (for a while i think) Psych, just goes to show they don't know what to do with good tv....from "Proud as a Peacock" to.....well, I wouldn't know what to call last season would I.....simply put, I'm spending alot of time on this USA site, and lovin every minute of it......


Keep it UP USA....!!!!

Oh dear, I think my soapbox is growing........


KA23 cool.gif
alzaimh90
i love reading what everyone else thought
and then saying what i thought,lol

i did think it a little weird that Mike would just drive back home and walk right in like he never left so dramatically before- gotta LOVE that scence with Sam squeezed in Mike's shirt

i looooved that scene with Mike pulling out that HUGE gun to blow up the giant computer- it was completely BNish, with its overthetop crazyness. so funny

there definitly is a more serious, scary/scared tone to Mike, now that he sees how big this mess he is in. i wonder how long that will last

but i do like the new spicier soundtrack. its another step up from season 1. nice new touch

Fi breaking up was torture for me, but i guess she just had to do it. i guess...lol
but it WILL be very interesting to see what Michael does with that!

i have to admit Carla is very pretty. but i am not that excited for her new appearence, as everyone else. how long will Michael work for her?

omg i loooove Michael's accents! and Sam and Fiona were amazing!

i just got reeeeeallly excited for epi #2!!!! yaaay! 2 days!!!
vestokes
QUOTE (kaiulani @ Jul 15 2008, 03:19 PM) *
I have to heartily disagree w/the show being on NBC or any other 'major' network for that matter. They would ruin it. The risk of 'dumbing down' the show for a broader appeal is a major concern. I love the unique, intelligent and innovative presentation of this (and other) show(s) on the USA schedule. Even the quality of writing here on the message boards is better than most of the fodder shown on the 'big 3.' Did I mention they would 'dumb down' the show?
The 'majors' can't handle something this great.
USA network PLEEEEASE don't sell this show to the majors - they'd kill the goose instead of reaping the golden eggs. Dare I mention the 'dumb down' factor again?, or would 4 times be overkill? wink.gif


AMEN Sistah!!!! I love the show the way it is. I am NOT obsessed with any other program on TV. The last TV show I obsessed over was Scoobie Doo and I guess you know that was quite some time ago. LOL!!!!
vestokes
QUOTE (alzaimh90 @ Jul 15 2008, 05:12 PM) *
i love reading what everyone else thought
and then saying what i thought,lol

i did think it a little weird that Mike would just drive back home and walk right in like he never left so dramatically before- gotta LOVE that scence with Sam squeezed in Mike's shirt

i looooved that scene with Mike pulling out that HUGE gun to blow up the giant computer- it was completely BNish, with its overthetop crazyness. so funny

there definitly is a more serious, scary/scared tone to Mike, now that he sees how big this mess he is in. i wonder how long that will last

but i do like the new spicier soundtrack. its another step up from season 1. nice new touch

Fi breaking up was torture for me, but i guess she just had to do it. i guess...lol
but it WILL be very interesting to see what Michael does with that!

i have to admit Carla is very pretty. but i am not that excited for her new appearence, as everyone else. how long will Michael work for her?

omg i loooove Michael's accents! and Sam and Fiona were amazing!

i just got reeeeeallly excited for epi #2!!!! yaaay! 2 days!!!



Yes. Sammy was quite amazing in Mike's "doll clothes". I created the below animated gif and a video since it's Sam's quick wit as well as the styling way he wears Mike's shirt.

AlmostThere
QUOTE (vestokes @ Jul 15 2008, 08:42 PM) *
AMEN Sistah!!!! I love the show the way it is. I am NOT obsessed with any other program on TV. The last TV show I obsessed over was Scoobie Doo and I guess you know that was quite some time ago. LOL!!!!


I'm not quite sure how to respond to that, considering the fact that I would flip Scoobie Doo on last summer when there was nothing else on (I hadn't discovered Burn Notice yet). XD I'm not sure if it's wise of me to admit to that
mjwannabe
QUOTE (vestokes @ Jul 15 2008, 08:53 PM) *
Yes. Sammy was quite amazing in Mike's "doll clothes". I created the below animated gif and a video since it's Sam's quick wit as well as the styling way he wears Mike's shirt.





This totally made my day vestokes, thanks! smile.gif
LGia19
hey, I was searching for the music that was played during the premiere and..
dont know if this was posted already or not. dont really care about reviews because the show is amazing as everybody on here knows but it was pretty positive
(except the grading should be all A's)
http://www.ugo.com/ugo/html/article/?id=18880

and also on the bottom GAnwar is listed on the 50 hottest women of TV - you go girl!!
QUOTE
You want to know how hot Gabrielle Anwar is? She's so hot you don't even need to be able to see her -- her very smell is enough to captivate mortal men

At least, we think that's what was going on in Scent of a Woman when Anwar burst onto the scene in a sexy dance number with the Al Pacino's blind character. It's possible he could hear her sexiness, or perhaps it was transferred through his fingertips. However you want to look at it, though, the fact remains that even the blind can see how damn hot Anwar is, which is why she appears at number 25 on our list of the sexiest women on television.

These days Anwar can be seen on both Burn Notice and The Tudors. The film industry's loss is our gain.



Peace.
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