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ciaddict
QUOTE (jryan62 @ Aug 6 2008, 02:19 PM) *
555 numbers don't exsist, they are reserved for movies and tv shows. funny isn't it, notice they always use those.

And Bobby would only date a 46 yr old cajun ex nurse! Get that into yall heads, laugh.gif wink.gif oh and her name is Abby! And thats a fact Jack!



No see... rolleyes.gif
I heard he likes them slightly older--such as a 51 year old nurse from CA. Could just be a rumor, but that's what I heard. Oh yeah...I started that rumor! laugh.gif
flashymom
Hmmmmm.......I thought he liked 40 year old housewives! laugh.gif tongue.gif
jryan62
QUOTE (Peyton @ Aug 4 2008, 08:35 PM) *
Age does matter when it comes to canon, because we know Goren is in his mid to late forties by now. We should respect the fact he wouldn't "date" some twentysomething.



Does this mean he likes Canon? Or is that a canon in his pocket? I just learn new words in this world every day!

As for the age thang, I think in fan fiction its up to the writer, If they want to write Goren gay, hey go for it. Just warn the writer, just like shippy ones, warn me please, I hate shippy. But If they had Goren dating a young girl on the show, like that Leslie chick I don't know her age, I don't feel that would suit him. I would lose respect for Goren.


The actress will be 32 this dec. FYI. She is older than I thought. I am waiting for someone to write Goren in a bi- racial relationship.
pfchristine
QUOTE (jryan62 @ Aug 6 2008, 04:17 PM) *
He now has the second locker, I noticed that has changed, you will notice that in untethered. Wonder if that is due to his age and size.

One difference he mentioned his dad grew avocado pits in a glass.

I think the treadmill is dead.

She could have opened the present later, but we didn't see it. At the end of the episode I didn't notice a present wrapped up among her things.


I agree about the avocados and the treadmill. I could have sworn that at some point we see the still wrapped present again, but now I'm wondering if that was from a fan fic I read... laugh.gif
jryan62
QUOTE (pfchristine @ Aug 6 2008, 06:15 PM) *
I agree about the avocados and the treadmill. I could have sworn that at some point we see the still wrapped present again, but now I'm wondering if that was from a fan fic I read... laugh.gif



that bitch if she didn't.lol
JanxAngel
QUOTE (jryan62 @ Aug 6 2008, 05:19 PM) *
555 numbers don't exsist, they are reserved for movies and tv shows. funny isn't it, notice they always use those.

And Bobby would only date a 46 yr old cajun ex nurse! Get that into yall heads, laugh.gif wink.gif oh and her name is Abby! And thats a fact Jack!



QUOTE (ciaddict @ Aug 6 2008, 05:29 PM) *
No see... rolleyes.gif
I heard he likes them slightly older--such as a 51 year old nurse from CA. Could just be a rumor, but that's what I heard. Oh yeah...I started that rumor! laugh.gif



QUOTE (flashymom @ Aug 6 2008, 06:13 PM) *
Hmmmmm.......I thought he liked 40 year old housewives! laugh.gif tongue.gif

I think you're all wrong. He likes 31 year old artist/student/crafters who are intelligent, quirky, and like goth music, Victorian clothes, and obscure facts.
flashymom
QUOTE (JanxAngel @ Aug 6 2008, 07:16 PM) *
I think you're all wrong. He likes 31 year old artist/student/crafters who are intelligent, quirky, and like goth music, Victorian clothes, and obscure facts.


Actually, he likes all of us. Over in the ship or no ship thread, he married all of us on Sunday night.........what a man *sigh*
ciaddict
QUOTE (flashymom @ Aug 6 2008, 07:00 PM) *
Actually, he likes all of us. Over in the ship or no ship thread, he married all of us on Sunday night.........what a man *sigh*



He does have eclectic tastes, doesn't he?
flashymom
QUOTE (ciaddict @ Aug 6 2008, 09:38 PM) *
He does have eclectic tastes, doesn't he?


Understatement
Peyton


I didn't mean to start a war. I just get a little fussy at times that's all. I need to keep in mind the author's age. They're going to write from their experiences. How can they write about something that doesn't exsist for them? tornheartworld, please don't let a little thing like age get in the way of your fic. Please post!

Goren's father grew avacado plants in glasses most likely lined up over the sink or on the kitchen counter.

ciaddict
QUOTE (Peyton @ Aug 7 2008, 07:26 AM) *


I didn't mean to start a war. I just get a little fussy at times that's all. I need to keep in mind the author's age. They're going to write from their experiences. How can they write about something that doesn't exsist for them? tornheartworld, please don't let a little thing like age get in the way of your fic. Please post!

Goren's father grew avacado plants in glasses most likely lined up over the sink or on the kitchen counter.



No war, Peyton, just opinions--lot's of opinions. That's something we NEVER run short of around here!
Judyg
QUOTE (Peyton @ Aug 7 2008, 10:26 AM) *


I didn't mean to start a war. I just get a little fussy at times that's all. I need to keep in mind the author's age. They're going to write from their experiences. How can they write about something that doesn't exsist for them? tornheartworld, please don't let a little thing like age get in the way of your fic. Please post!

Goren's father grew avacado plants in glasses most likely lined up over the sink or on the kitchen counter.


Just for the record, I'm 47 so age is not an issue when I write a fic. I base my characters on various aspects and simply don't think that characters should be stereo-typed since folks are different all over the world. What might work in one story, may not work in another.

I do agree with the fact that maturity plays a great deal in the characater development and interaction with canon characters. I know very old 25 year olds and very immature 50 year olds.

We all have our opinions. I simply don't think that an opinion should be considered 'canon' as opinions are different for everyone. biggrin.gif
jryan62
QUOTE (Judyg @ Aug 7 2008, 09:49 AM) *
Just for the record, I'm 47 so age is not an issue when I write a fic. I base my characters on various aspects and simply don't think that characters should be stereo-typed since folks are different all over the world. What might work in one story, may not work in another.

I do agree with the fact that maturity plays a great deal in the characater development and interaction with canon characters. I know very old 25 year olds and very immature 50 year olds.

We all have our opinions. I simply don't think that an opinion should be considered 'canon' as opinions are different for everyone. biggrin.gif


Hey i resemble that remark, well I am only 46, and I love acting 25. smile.gif
jryan62
QUOTE (jryan62 @ Aug 6 2008, 05:58 PM) *
Does this mean he likes Canon? Or is that a canon in his pocket? I just learn new words in this world every day!

As for the age thang, I think in fan fiction its up to the writer, If they want to write Goren gay, hey go for it. Just warn the writer, just like shippy ones, warn me please, I hate shippy. But If they had Goren dating a young girl on the show, like that Leslie chick I don't know her age, I don't feel that would suit him. I would lose respect for Goren.


The actress will be 32 this dec. FYI. She is older than I thought. I am waiting for someone to write Goren in a bi- racial relationship.



Any talented writers looking for the challenge, I am thinking jamacian European, maybe a visiting professor? I am not talented enough.
Judyg
QUOTE (jryan62 @ Aug 7 2008, 11:40 AM) *
Any talented writers looking for the challenge, I am thinking jamacian European, maybe a visiting professor? I am not talented enough.


I didn't see your original post with regards to the bi-racial relationship until you quoted it just now. I don't see Goren as having an issue with race, either (obviously) and that's just my opinion. I think the man is very accepting of people in general regardless of age, race, etc.

I would have a problem writing him with another woman at all until I finished with the Bobby/Charli stories but doubt that I have the talent to pull it off either. smile.gif
jryan62
QUOTE (Judyg @ Aug 7 2008, 10:49 AM) *
I didn't see your original post with regards to the bi-racial relationship until you quoted it just now. I don't see Goren as having an issue with race, either (obviously) and that's just my opinion. I think the man is very accepting of people in general regardless of age, race, etc.

I would have a problem writing him with another woman at all until I finished with the Bobby/Charli stories but doubt that I have the talent to pull it off either. smile.gif



I don't see a problem either, but I think it would take a lot of discriptive capabilities, which I don't have.
Peyton
It could be done with discipline and research.

Add this: Goren pays attention to the weather channel (One).
jryan62
QUOTE (Peyton @ Aug 7 2008, 06:40 PM) *
Add this: Goren pays attention to the weather channel (One).



He knows his knots, Legacy.
waldkind
not sure if those have been mentioned:

Alex' mother had a stroke
Her father did double-dipping
She has a brother who is a fireman, her sister-in-law is a nurse
Has a cousin who plays lacrosse wink.gif
Was prom queen in high school
Obviously likes a lot of sugar in her coffee but also drinks tea in some episodes
Has a picture of a dog (?) on her desk
Lives in a house
Has an aunt who is an alcoholic and who lived with her family for some time
Has shot two people (that we know of)
Likes Skittles

I also remember that she was a very good shooter, it said so on her dress uniform but I can't remember the exact words

And her eyes are indeed brown!!!!!!!!!!! I get mad when writers don't even bother to check her eyecolor.
jryan62
QUOTE (waldkind @ Aug 7 2008, 07:06 PM) *
not sure if those have been mentioned:

Alex' mother had a stroke
Her father did double-dipping
She has a brother who is a fireman, her sister-in-law is a nurse
Has a cousin who plays lacrosse wink.gif
Was prom queen in high school
Obviously likes a lot of sugar in her coffee but also drinks tea in some episodes
Has a picture of a dog (?) on her desk
Lives in a house
Has an aunt who is an alcoholic and who lived with her family for some time
Has shot two people (that we know of)
Likes Skittles

I also remember that she was a very good shooter, it said so on her dress uniform but I can't remember the exact words

And her eyes are indeed brown!!!!!!!!!!! I get mad when writers don't even bother to check her eyecolor.


Oh and her fireman brother kids go to private school. didn't she mention that?
flashymom
QUOTE (jryan62 @ Aug 7 2008, 07:34 PM) *
Oh and her fireman brother kids go to private school. didn't she mention that?



Does she still have the Santa mug on her desk?
waldkind
QUOTE (jryan62 @ Aug 8 2008, 02:34 AM) *
Oh and her fireman brother kids go to private school. didn't she mention that?

oh yes, she did!

QUOTE (flashymom @ Aug 9 2008, 07:01 AM) *
Does she still have the Santa mug on her desk?

no, it broke. Too sad, I loved that mug!

oh, and she is an Abba fan and wants a foot massage from Derek Jeter wink.gif
NLfan
More of Goren's friends:
- guy (not named) with a lot of body art who has connections to bikers as far away as Canada (One)
- guy (not named) associated with watchdog groups. Eames called him a tree hugger. (Poison)
- guy (not named) who is a children's rights attorney, specializing in custody cases (Magnificat)

Additional languages:
- reads Russian (Maledictus)

Knowledgeable about art:
- knew the value of a Tibetan tonka, Goya etching and Chinese blue and white moon vase that he saw at crime scene (Art)

Likes veal parmesian. (Person of Interest)

Hates the beach. (Depths)

Likes children and interacts well with them. Eames usually defers to Goren when they interview children. (Tuxedo Hill, Crazy, Tomorrow, Graansha, Bright Boy, etc.)

Wants children of his own (Great Barrier):
Nicole Wallace: "People like you and me just aren't fated to have children, Bobby."
Goren: "Well, don't count me out yet."

Very familiar with the Bible:
- quoted Genesis from memory and also knew about the five plagues (Dead)
jryan62
QUOTE (NLfan @ Aug 12 2008, 12:14 AM) *
More of Goren's friends:
- guy (not named) with a lot of body art who has connections to bikers as far away as Canada (One)
- guy (not named) associated with watchdog groups. Eames called him a tree hugger. (Poison)
- guy (not named) who is a children's rights attorney, specializing in custody cases (Magnificat)

Additional languages:
- reads Russian (Maledictus)

Knowledgeable about art:
- knew the value of a Tibetan tonka, Goya etching and Chinese blue and white moon vase that he saw at crime scene (Art)

Likes veal parmesian. (Person of Interest)

Hates the beach. (Depths)

Likes children and interacts well with them. Eames usually defers to Goren when they interview children. (Tuxedo Hill, Crazy, Tomorrow, Graansha, Bright Boy, etc.)

Wants children of his own (Great Barrier):
Nicole Wallace: "People like you and me just aren't fated to have children, Bobby."
Goren: "Well, don't count me out yet."

Very familiar with the Bible:
- quoted Genesis from memory and also knew about the five plagues (Dead)



Likes Eggplant Parmesan -cruise to nowhere
tornheartworld
QUOTE (jryan62 @ Aug 6 2008, 04:19 PM) *
555 numbers don't exsist, they are reserved for movies and tv shows. funny isn't it, notice they always use those.

And Bobby would only date a 46 yr old cajun ex nurse! Get that into yall heads, laugh.gif wink.gif oh and her name is Abby! And thats a fact Jack!


What?? :confused:: ::looks at Abby:: ::Abby shrugs shoulders and walks away::
pfchristine
QUOTE (jryan62 @ Aug 12 2008, 04:30 PM) *
Likes Eggplant Parmesan -cruise to nowhere


And Pastrami - The Insider
luvci75
QUOTE (waldkind @ Aug 7 2008, 08:06 PM) *
not sure if those have been mentioned:

Alex' mother had a stroke
Her father did double-dipping
She has a brother who is a fireman, her sister-in-law is a nurse
Has a cousin who plays lacrosse wink.gif
Was prom queen in high school
Obviously likes a lot of sugar in her coffee but also drinks tea in some episodes
Has a picture of a dog (?) on her desk
Lives in a house
Has an aunt who is an alcoholic and who lived with her family for some time
Has shot two people (that we know of)
Likes Skittles

I also remember that she was a very good shooter, it said so on her dress uniform but I can't remember the exact words

And her eyes are indeed brown!!!!!!!!!!! I get mad when writers don't even bother to check her eyecolor.


Do you know where the info about Alex's mom's stroke appeared? I've read it in a lot of fanfics, but I can't remember having ever heard about it in the show.
BrokenNeck
QUOTE (DejaBlue72 @ Jul 14 2008, 10:58 PM) *
Info about Bobby:

--Worked in Narcotics for 4 years; ran 3 sting operations that resulted in 27 convictions
--Can speak German and Spanish (at least he spoke it well in "Amends")
--His middle name starts with an "O" (I mistakenly gave him the middle name of James in something I wrote)
--His brother's name is Frank, who's a gambling addict; his mother's name is Frances, who is/was schizophrenic; his dad was a gambler and is dead (not too sure how long)


Info about Alex:
--Worked in Vice before going to Major Case
--She enrolled in the Academy in 1993; married Joe Dutton in 1995; became a widow in 1998 when he was killed while working undercover
--Her dad's name is Johnny (or possibly John; Frank Adair referred to him as Johnny)
--Was a surrogate for her sister
--She's the senior partner


Info about Mike:
--Was banished to Staten Island Harbor Patrol for 10 years after hitting a councilman
--Wears plaid ties
--His mom was abusive (maybe an alcoholic, too)
--His dad flew planes in Korea
--Lenny Briscoe was his partner before he went to Staten Island
--Wears what looks like a class ring on his left hand

That's all I know rolleyes.gif


Logan and Goren are both Catholic, but don't actively practice Catholicism. Mike was molested by his priest in his youth, and his girlfriend aborted his child that she was carrying. More specifically, Bobby made 27 arrests that led to 27 convictions. Mike is pro-gay rights, and Bobby tends to lean towards anti- death penalty convictions. Mike is known for his temper. Bobby also knows some sign language, though not enough to complete a full interview. Mike knows limited Spanish. Bobby learned to read out of the Koran to impress a girl he met while in the military. Bobby is 6'4, with a size 13 shoe, and is left-handed. Mike Logan is right handed. Neither adhere to typical police procedure/rules. Mike's partner (Wheeler) is younger than him. Bobby's partner (Alex) is older than him. Both have troubled backgrounds, and both have had cases where their past is dragged back to light. Neither have married and/or have been married in the past. (Yay for us fangirls! We still have a chance!) Oh, and Alex owns a bird. Maybe a parakeet.

I could go on but, I'm sleepy! I don't feel like adding all of my Alex info onto my paragraph right now. Maybe later. smile.gif

Anyway, there's some more info/trivia to add to your list.
DejaBlue1972
QUOTE (jryan62 @ Aug 7 2008, 10:40 AM) *
Any talented writers looking for the challenge, I am thinking jamacian European, maybe a visiting professor? I am not talented enough.



I'm actually writing 2 stories about Bobby being involved in inter-racial relationships with African-American women. The first one's called "Bobby's Angel." The 2nd story is called "The Story of Cecelia Rose." (Bobby's a teenager in this one.) They're posted on FanFiction if anyone is interested. Be warned: the 1st story is LONG (over 100,000 words). I don't focus too much on race in "Angel", but for "Cecelia Rose," race will be issue for some of the characters down the road. I agree with a previous poster's comment that Bobby would love any woman no matter the color of her skin. Shoot, I bet he'd even love a green skinned woman from Orion. Or did I just mix him up with Captain Kirk? biggrin.gif
waldkind
QUOTE (luvci75 @ Aug 24 2008, 04:51 AM) *
Do you know where the info about Alex's mom's stroke appeared? I've read it in a lot of fanfics, but I can't remember having ever heard about it in the show.

I can't tell you the episode but it was DEFINITELY mentioned in the show.

QUOTE (BrokenNeck @ Aug 24 2008, 08:25 AM) *
Bobby's partner (Alex) is older than him.

we don't know that. Senior partner doesn't mean that she's older, I think it either means that she's longer in Major Case or simply longer at the NYPD. We could probably guess her age because we know that she's been in the academy in the year that little girl was killed on Halloween.
flashymom
QUOTE (waldkind @ Aug 25 2008, 06:14 PM) *
we don't know that. Senior partner doesn't mean that she's older, I think it either means that she's longer in Major Case or simply longer at the NYPD. We could probably guess her age because we know that she's been in the academy in the year that little girl was killed on Halloween.



I don't think Alex is older than Bobby, either. If we factor in Bobby being in the military before joining the academy, plus having some college, he was most likely already close to or slightly over 30 when he became a police officer. Alex went to the Academy right out of college, so she would have been closer to 25 or 26 when she entered the force. So, she would be "senior" in terms of years on the force, not age.
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