Got my new TV Guide for next week in the mail today and was thrilled when I opened it up to find a two page spread devoted to Vincent D'Onofrio and his alter ego Robert Goren, complete with a one page photo of VDO alone and a smaller photo within the article of him with Kathryn Erbe. This issue will hit the newsstands on Friday for those who are not subscribers like me.

oh my freaking god!!! ::screams and runs to get it::

ooo! awesome! I"m buying one...wonder if it will be online too!

This is fantastic. But does anyone know if there will be a version available on line for people outside the United States?

Thank you for sharing!

I don't know if it'll be among the articles posted online or not. I hope so. If Friday rolls around and it's not on the TV Guide site, then I'll be glad to scan it and send it to our viewers outside the U.S. that don't get the magazine.



The cover has Mario Lopez and Audrina Patridge in bathing suits for their "Hot Bods" photo spread. The article with VDO is on pages 42-43.

*squee* So happy! New piccies! Super duper happy fun cool stuff.


Saturday.

I would love to read the article can anyone here post it on the board so those of us outside the U.S. can read it?

Yippee! now I have something to look forward to today. It should be in my mailbox when I get home tonight! Thanks for sharing!



Lozzie - I will be more than happy to buy you a copy and mail it out to you. PM or e-mail me your address.

Swweeeeet!!! I'll have to get one now!!

Can you scan it in and post it here? Anything to keep from going to the supermarket! LOL!!!

Too cool!! I have noticed that TV Guide does a fairly good job of promoting CI, especially considering that SVU is considered the favored child. Right before Pugatory aired, there were two seperate mini-articles about CI. Anyway, I know what I will be purchasing this Friday.

Thanks for the info. I can hardly wait. I will pick up a couple of extras for anyone that doesn't get one. Just PM

CI-Publicity!!! How exciting. Now if they could just get VDO back on "The View". :::sigh:::
(On "The View" with KE of course.)

How exciting. My TV Guide came today. I am gonna read it later.

Since he lives in NYC, VDO should do Letterman, Live with Regis and Kelly, The Today Show, Good Morning America, etc. KE, CN, EB, JN, et al should do the same as well. Maybe if enough of us go post a request over on Bravo at the Inside the Actors' Studio blogs, VDO will get asked to be on that show, too. Hey, can't hurt. I do know for a fact that if you go to the Live with Regis and Kelly website, they have a place for viewers to request guests for the show. We should all go over there and request VDO and company......request them individually, and often! Let's see if we can do this, people!

I have never been more excited about buying a TV Guide.

If anyone finds a copy of it online please post it, that would be awesome!!

It damn sucks being in Australia sometimes lol

Me too ebsinger. I think we may be in danger of being forcibly removed to the "Are We Pathethic" thread. HAHAHA



Hey Secret: I'll be glad to buy an extra copy and mail it to you.
This offer applies to anyone else who wants their own copy of 'our beloved Vincent' to keep under their pillows! (That's where mine will be)

I've often wondered why he doesn't do the circuit...none of them do. Maybe it compromises the art??...He did SNL (2008) and The View (years ago) that was a hoot..

Thanks for the update!
Will be buying 2 copies---one for under my pillow.....one so I can hang new pics at my desk @ work!

Wow, could maybe People magazine be next? Dare to dream.

Please stop! I don't think my heart can take it!

I have heard that Vincent is very very shy about these things. I have 2 videos of Vincent on late night talk shows when he was promoting "The Imposter" and you could tell he was very uncomfortable. On Conan (I think) he even mentioned that as a 5 year old he was so shy they couldn't get him out from under the bed for his birthday party. Of course the late night shows were a few years back (as is his fifth birthday) and it seems he is possibly less shy. But I would imagaine he still doesn't like them but will do them if necessary. The last line is pure speculation.

I buy TV guide every week just in hopes of them doing something, even small, on Vincent, so of course I will be getting this one. It really surprised me, them doing the little write-up and complimentary, no less. In the past it seems they have been rather negative, especially Matt Roush. So this will certainly be a treat.

*doing my best "Southern belle about to faint" pose* Oh, my! Dreamy and handsome Vincent D'onofrio in TV Guide! Be still, my fast beating heart. I'll have to buy a couple of copies for me and my friends. Did y'all know that he was here in Nashville, TN back in April for our annual film festival? He was on a panel for actors who have directed films.

We get the tv guide and entertainment weekly for our pizza shop...we have 3 flat screens for customer viewing and the hubby likes to keep up on the sports that is going to be playing. I am the first to check out the magazines, for even the smallest article on CI or the actors. I take the articles of them and save them in a file...how pathetic is that?




Ha...ask Tasha about that!!!!!!

You wouldn't believe the stuff I have on VDO/CI--once again, pathetic

What does the article say?

I stopped on my way to work this morning to get some but it wasn't on the newsstand yet. I'll go back as many times as it takes though to get at least one. Thanks for the heads up.

Here most of the article (cut out a few dull paragraphs) that is in the brand new issue of TV Guide (June 30-July13) that I recieved in the mail yesterday. It contains quotes from both VDO and surprisingly, from Rene Balcer. In it, the writer pokes fun at therapy & "diagnosis" Goren.

Interrogating Goren
by Mike Flaherty

Vincent D'Onofrio Puts His Criminal Intent Alter Ego On The Couch -
And He's Not As Crazy As You Think.

Watching Vincent D'Onofrio's Det. Robert Goren on Law & Order: Criminal Intent is a deliciously unsettling experience. We love the awkward mannerisms, the halting yet penetrating speech, the craned neck bend he performs when grilling suspects. He's brilliant, insightful, riveting, But frankly, he seems a few sandwiches short of a picnic. If you know what we mean...

For example: In "Untethered," D'Onofrio's last episode before the writer's strike, Goren went undercover in a mental ward to expose prisoner abuse........

.....In the first poststrike episode "Purgatory," the suspended Goren got reinstated, but we never witnessed the psych evaluation that was required to get his shield and gun back. This was no accident. Turns out D'Onofrio's loathe to have his alter ego follow a certain, powerful, neurotic Italian-American to the couch. "The Sopranos did it so perfectly that if you take a strong character like mine and put him with a shrink, it's going to be a copy." says the actor. "So we won't go there."

Actually dude, we will.......(here comes the poking fun at therapy part)

Diagnosis: Abandonment Issues
Goren's major malfunction in a nutshell: His father, a compulsive gambler and serial adulterer, walked out when his son was 11. Four years earlier, his mother, had been diagnosed with schizophrenia...

..D'Onofrio says "Goren's very damaged. In some ways, it's what makes him a better cop. He's lost everyone close to him (save for partner Alexandra Eames) but refuses to lose a suspect once in his grasp."

Our Conclusion? That obsession is his way of exerting a degree of control that he never had growing up.

Diagnosis: Paternal Neglect
Did someone say "daddy issues?" Goren's mother informed him on her deathbed that the louse he thought was his father may not be his father. Instead, it may be the louse she was bonking back in 1960, a serial killer
named Mark Ford Brady. As a result, says D'Onofrio, "Goren is lost and has to find his way." The show's consulting producer, Rene Balcer, is more direct: "He's always looking for a father figure." But Balcer also points out "that neglected boys tend to have a lot of problems with older males and authority issues."

That's our boy!

Diagnosis: Post-Romantic Stress Syndrome
OK, we made that one up. But it's the best way to describe the psychological morass that is Goren's relationship with criminal mastermind Nicole Wallace.......

...."That's the only true relationship with a woman that he's had in the last seven years other than his mom," notes D'Onofrio. "Which is very screwed up."

Diagnosis:Repressed Sociopathy
Manipulation is a symptom of the psychopathic personality," Goren once observed of a suspect. That's the cop calling the kettle black! His ability to guilt-trip, distract and befuddle suspects into a confession makes you wonder what path Goren might have followed if not law enforcement. "He walks that line of being able to enter that criminal world and think like a criminal," D'Onofrio observes. Balcer concurs: "There but for the grace of God goes Goren."

Diagnosis:Narcissistic Personality Disorder
A more taciturn, less flaky Goren of the past few seasons was an attempt , as D'Onofrio said, to, "internalize" the character. "The guy couldn't be so quirky that he wouldn't be allowed to be a cop." That
recalibration seemed to have come full circle when we saw the scruffy, puffy Goren at the beginning of "Purgatory," brooding at the end of the bar......

So who knows? Maybe he will go completely off the rails someday.. Until that happens, Goren will remain a work in progress. "The last episode this season will revisit his past in a very literal way," reveals D'Onofrio. "He'll be pulled out of a nosedive," adds Balcer.

OK, just don't go making him normal or anything.

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So, what do you guys think?

Well -

First: Thank you very much for doing that, DonnaJo.

Second:

LOZZIE.....

We need a mantra. Something to help us breathe easily - how about this -

They are just fictional characters
They are just fictional characters
They are just fictional characters
They are just fictional characters
They are just fictional characters
They are just fictional characters
They are just fictional characters
They are just fictional characters
They are just fictional characters


Hmmm. So far, not helping much ..!

Dear God . . . so tired . . . no more, please.

Okay, seriously, based on this info I think I'm prepared for Eames to leave Bobby. Well, not really, but I'm gearing up for it. I can't go into it blind.

I miss old-Bobby!

Also, why does Balcer have info on the season finale when he's off the show?

I know what you mean, Lozzie.

Deep breaths . . . all will be well . . . They both signed up for next year, so things can't get too bad right? . . . everything will be fine . . . Who am I talking to, me or you?

How great to wake up this morning and find this on my birthday!! And then when I turned on the TV, I found a CI marathon. What more could I ask for?! Well......I could ask for something else, but I'm not so sure I'm gonna get it!!!

Do you think the partnership can survive a nosedive?

I thought the 'telltale' line of the interview was that Goren's pulled OUT of the nosedive. I'm hoping that means that he realizes the depression he's been in and someone (Eames, possibly) steps in and forces him to to face what's been happening.

What a weird article

I totally don't see the narcissistic personality or post-romantic stress disorder 'diagnoses'

Nicole Wallace was sexually/romantically interesting to Goren for at most one episode (their first meeting) but after that now she's just a criminal to him...a smart and clever one but not sexy or the object of some fantasy of his where he turns her into a good woman and then has a romantic relationship with her. Totally off the mark assessment.

The NPD thing I totally don't get. Goren's a lot of things but it's only 'all about him' because he's that talented at his job...and in the end we watch CI for the cases as well as the character stuff.

Even The Sopranos isn't all about just Tony sitting on Dr Melfi's couch talking about his psychological issues...it's a lot more about his mob family than his real family and the problems both cause him.

I guess if I wanted to just watch stuff about shrinks I'd be watching 'In Treatment' or old Bob Newhart shows if I'm in the mood to laugh.

The Vault

The article says he will pull OUT of a nosedive, so obviously something happens to cause him a wake up call. Maybe something happening to Alex? Just a speculation. Like VDO said, Bobby has lost everyone close to him besides Alex and if something were to happen to her or to have her threatened in some way, it could cause him to snap out of this "nosedive".

Thanks DonnaJo for posting the article!
I didn't get the Nicole Wallace thing either. Thats the only relationship with a woman he has had besides his mom? What about Eames?
I'm excited to see what happens with this "nose dive". Maybe MFB is his father after all?

I like that idea! This is sick, absolutely sick, but I'd rather have her in physical danger and them be okay, than her be pissed at him, both be physically all right but not partners anymore. And I love Eames!

You can say it, I know it's sick.

I'm wondering if that would be a rerun of Blindspot. I'm thinking along the daddy-issue lines like who his father really is.

Ugggh...............

Do you think perhaps someone, somewhere, is just yanking our chains a bit?

My original response to the article stands, I think. But I also suspect that I, as a 'typical' sort of fan, am being played.

There's a marathon on today? Even more reason for me to head home... I feel like crap.

Does Vince knowing about the shrink episodes on Sopranos mean he watches the show or just knows about it? I think one or two seasons of his moping about is about all a show can take, him or anyone else. Yahoo, for an eighth season.

There is a marathon on everyday this week!

Vault, there's more to those sections that I didn't copy that might explain why the writer proposed these "diagnosis." Especially the one about NW. I'll copy it later when I'm home for you. I'm at work now.

"Until that happens, Goren will remain a work in progress. "The last episode this season will revisit his past in a very literal way," reveals D'Onofrio. "He'll be pulled out of a nosedive," adds Balcer."

This is the real "killer" in terms of angst. I do love the concept of Goren as an evolving character..I just hope the progression is now upwards, not downwards.

Also, revisiting his past in the "literal" sense. DNA results? Blood tests? That's pretty literal. I also see a visit by Frank as part of this.

Yes - or maybe Donny?