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June911
rolleyes.gif I just received some Great news and I'm on cloud nine. I just waiting to see if Greg Cox would like to post it himself so stay tuned. I believe our continuing efforts and perseverance are being rewarded.

To you spoiler junkies: The actual plot as yet unknown.

4400 LOONIES EVERYWHERE: CAN I GET A HALLELUJAH?......AMEN!!!! biggrin.gif

STAY TUNED AND SPREAD THE WORD!!


I know some of you saying you rather have it back on TV (me too), but a book is better than nothing. I use to think that way. You'd have to tie me down to get me to read. Then years ago I pick up a TV tie book of my favorite show at the time and discovered something, I could actually see the story in my head as I read. I still sometimes confuse stories I seen while reading and ones I saw on TV. Besides I'll name 2 major advantages books have over TV as yet:

1. Some characters that have been remove because the actors portraying them left due to money, other projects, etc. can be brought back.
2. Stories never developed because the technology just doesn't exist yet to pull it off. You can do anything in a book.

So think positive. The main thing we wanted was closure. Prayer answered!


06/27/08 Latest News

I fired off an outline for the new book to CBS last week. Now I'm just waiting for their comments and suggestions. This is standard procedure. Last time we went back and forth three or four times before we settled on the plot of THE VESUVIUS PROPHECY.

Best,

Greg


07/14/08 Latest News


I haven't actually starting writing the book yet, but I can report that the outline was approved by CBS. Meanwhile, Dave Mack is hard at work on the outline for the book after mine. (We spent a lot of time this weekend comparing notes and making sure we were both on the same page.)

Dave Mack is the guy who is writing the 4400 novel after mine. He's also an old friend of mine and a veteran STAR TREK writer. (He's written two episodes of DEEP SPACE NINE, plus several TREK novels.)

Greg


07/23/08 Latest News

I've been corresponding back and forth with a couple of the "4400" book authors trying to get a understanding of situation. Here's part of an email from Dayton Ward, one of "The 4400: Wetwork" writers.

At present, there are only the four 4400 books planned. Our book, like Greg's first book, were commissioned and written before the word came down that the series was canceled. Once that happened, plans for the next two books were changed to push the story beyond the Season 4 finale. Whether more books are commissioned (and if I/Kevin and I get to write any of them) will of course depend on how well these first four sell. I would very much welcome the chance to write another 4400 novel, as I'm a fan of the series from day 1 and loved the time we spent writing Wet Work. Obviously we hope fans will dig it and see that it was -- like Greg's book -- written by true fans of the show.

Thanks again!

Best,

Dayton


THIS MEANS PEOPLE before "The 4400 was canceled these books were in the works ALL were suppose to be tie-in books but the cancellation caused CBS to make the last 2 after Season Fours finale. We cried out for closure and personally if the writers posted a 2 page essay giving the conclusion to their plot line I would have counted myself lucky. Do you know how many shows end with no resolution? Now we are being offered a BIG BONE that could bring more closure and hopefully a continuing series. Greg Cox and Dayton Ward are like most of us devout fans of "The 4400" since the beginning. They both seem to agree that how well these books sell will decide if we get more. After all, when "The 4400" was canceled CBS paramount could have nixed the whole idea instead changing the next 2 to take place after "The Great Leap Forward".

USA taketh, CBS giveth back. I hope CBS makes a killing in sells and show USA how mentally challenged they are. So EVERYONE support these books cause I want more, more, more!!!!


P.S. Sorry for the rant but it makes me crazy every time I read a negative comment about us geting books. Now I'll shut up until next update

June


08/25/08 Latest News

Sorry I'm a little late in posting this. So this is what's happening to date in GC words.

I just finished the new UNDERWORLD book, so my plan is to take a few days off, then start working full-time on THE 4400 again.
Right now I'm on track to deliver the book by October so it can be published in August.

All I can is that CBS has approved the outline for the PROMISE CITY book and we're proceeding from there.
Just try to think of Dave Mack and I as a couple of new writers on the series.

Best,

Greg





09/04/08 Latest News


Hey everybody, be sure to check out dberry's post about interviews with authors Dayton Ward, "The 4400: Wetwork" Oct 2008 and David Mack, Season 5:Book 2, (tenative title)"The 4400: PROMISES BROKEN Oct 2009.

LINK: http://forums.usanetwork.com/index.php?showtopic=406428



So now we know both working titles, "Promise City" (Aug. 2009) and "Promises Broken" (Oct. 2009) and again it's pointed out if we truly want more these books need to sell!!!

Until next time keep the faith and buy books.




11/13/08 Latest News



Turned in the ms. to my editor last week. Now I'm waiting for her response.

Greg

Keep your fingers crossed!




12/03/08 Latest News


Well Greg is still waiting to hear back from his editor and CBS about his book. His editor is on jury duty. He says he saw Dave Mack at a party last week and he's still hard to work on his book, "Promises Broken". So stay tuned fellow 4400 loonies for future updates.





12/19/08 Latest News

I was just checking out Amazon.com and notice they have Greg Cox Season 5 book available for pre-order here:



http://www.amazon.com/4400-Welcome-Promise...1591&sr=1-4

The 4400: Welcome to Promise City (Mass Market Paperback)
by Greg Cox (Author)

List Price: $7.99
Price: $7.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25. Details
Pre-order Price Guarantee

Product Details
Mass Market Paperback: 304 pages
Publisher: Pocket Star (July 28, 2009)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 1416543228
ISBN-13: 978-1416543220


P.S. I have it on good authority that you find out the answer about Tom and the syringe in the first scene. I don't know so don't ask me. I am marking my calendar. Oh the suspense!!!
Promicinjunkie
That is good news... but tell me, you know if they need a talented, out of work writer to scribe out a few pages.... hmmm? wink.gif
Bubba_Bridges
Hi Bubba here, that is good news. Thanks for passing that along. smile.gif
LilyLemony
*perks up ears* Awaits further news. smile.gif
tomBurkhov
Oh my god! Is this real? ohmy.gif

biggrin.gif
June911
There is nothing I hate more than a story left unfinished. I rather they never started it in the first place. So I being poor as a church mouse and can't always show support monetary-wise. I can email anybody and everybody who listen. So I tried Greg Cox because I know he had in contact with some of the people we want to reach or could find out if he would. This is the email I received from him. I hoping he'll come on the board and tell us more. I email him the board address.

Funny you should ask. I just signed the contract (like, yesterday) to write a new 4400 novel continuing the story from the tv show left off. This will be the first of at least two new books continuing the story.

Nothing definite on the plot yet. To be honest, we're still hashing that out. And whatever we come up with will have to be approved by CBS somewhere down the road. But I've already started work on some outlines and am chatting with my editor about the project tomorrow.

Which message board are you talking about? I tried to get backon the USA Network message board a few weeks back, and the 4400 Wikipedia seems to be shut down.

Anyway, hope this answers your questions, sort of. I appreciate your interest in the show!

Greg
LilyLemony
Neat! He should ask the fans what we want! Now wouldn't that be awesome? smile.gif
amerirish
QUOTE (LilyLemony @ Jun 16 2008, 04:23 PM) *
Neat! He should ask the fans what we want! Now wouldn't that be awesome? smile.gif


I couldn't agree more, Lily. However, my first thought is will he interview the writers & actors to get their perspective. That would be the best thing in my opinion.

Thanks for all the info guys! I still don't want to give up on a televised ending. Perhaps if the books sell well enough, we can get a miniseries! That would be beautifully ironic: a miniseries ending to a miniseries intended show laugh.gif
nonoitall
Yay!!! I still want a televised conclusion to the series as well, but at least this way we could get something canonical.
Kryth
QUOTE
Perhaps if the books sell well enough, we can get a miniseries! That would be beautifully ironic: a miniseries ending to a miniseries intended show




Exactly!!!!  laugh.gif



I still can't believe we're getting something at long last. GREAT news indeed. Here's hoping for a TV wrap up =)
faithwalker
QUOTE (June911 @ Jun 15 2008, 11:21 PM) *
There is nothing I hate more than a story left unfinished. I rather they never started it in the first place. So I being poor as a church mouse and can't always show support monetary-wise. I can email anybody and everybody who listen. So I tried Greg Cox because I know he had in contact with some of the people we want to reach or could find out if he would. This is the email I received from him. I hoping he'll come on the board and tell us more. I email him the board address.

Funny you should ask. I just signed the contract (like, yesterday) to write a new 4400 novel continuing the story from the tv show left off. This will be the first of at least two new books continuing the story.

Nothing definite on the plot yet. To be honest, we're still hashing that out. And whatever we come up with will have to be approved by CBS somewhere down the road. But I've already started work on some outlines and am chatting with my editor about the project tomorrow.

Which message board are you talking about? I tried to get backon the USA Network message board a few weeks back, and the 4400 Wikipedia seems to be shut down.

Anyway, hope this answers your questions, sort of. I appreciate your interest in the show!

Greg


yea! i just signed up today so i could find out more about my fave show. i've been on board since the pilot about 5 years ago and tivo'd the first two seasons! i would love to be part of the effort to bring it back or get it with another ( sad.gif ) network. WHATEVER just bring it back!! a book is a "novel" (pardon the pun, couldn't help myself) idea, count me in!
June911
BUMP
NTACvic
That's fantastic!!!! smile.gif
mellio
O M G !!!

I know I haven't been on the board in a while...but YAY!!!! I will so be there stalking the bookstore on the first sale date like all of the Harry Potter nutz (I like it too, just not enough to wait at midnight)!!! YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mrb
is the book out in the stores yet?
rharnish
That is great news!!!! I LOVE the 4400 and I really want to know what happens and if Tom will actually take the promicin....
mellio
I was looking for this thread and thinking that it got deleted but then I found it...PINNED!
zippylittlerat
A book series?! Really?! WHOO HOOO! Finally, I'll pick up a book of my own free will, no matter how much spare time I have! 4400 fans everywhere, let's party!
djacobs
Suggestion: start the book up in the future and work your way back. I don't read a lot of books, stories, novel or whatever you might refer to them as. But one thing is certain. I will read a novel on The 4400. This would be a very good thing for the continuation of the story. I'm in, put me down for two. laugh.gif
AllanKirkendall
I just finished the 4th season on DVD and I couldn't believe it was over-so many unfinished story lines and the writers seemed so up for another season. Is there really going to be a Season 5? Just too good to be true and I will look for any novels that take up the story line. That is a HALLELUJAH and AMEN from this hooked fan. Al
QUOTE (June911 @ Jun 15 2008, 02:30 PM) *
I just received some Great news and I'm on cloud nine. I included a spoiler below for clues. I just waiting to see if Greg Cox would like to post it himself so stay tuned. I believe our continuing efforts and perseverance are being rewarded.
Spoiler:
CLUE: Interested in Season 5: the Book Series?


To you spoiler junkies: The actual plot as yet unknown.

4400 LOONIES EVERYWHERE: CAN I GET A HALLELUJAH?......AMEN!!!! biggrin.gif

STAY TUNED AND SPREAD THE WORD!!
Syco
It's great news, but I've kinda got mixed feelings about it. I'm not a big book person, so it's not as great as actually finishing the story in video format. Buuuut it's better then nothing.
mrsl2
QUOTE (June911 @ Jun 15 2008, 04:30 PM) *
I just received some Great news and I'm on cloud nine. I included a spoiler below for clues. I just waiting to see if Greg Cox would like to post it himself so stay tuned. I believe our continuing efforts and perseverance are being rewarded.
Spoiler:
CLUE: Interested in Season 5: the Book Series?


To you spoiler junkies: The actual plot as yet unknown.

4400 LOONIES EVERYWHERE: CAN I GET A HALLELUJAH?......AMEN!!!! biggrin.gif

STAY TUNED AND SPREAD THE WORD!!
I know some of you saying you rather have it back on TV (me too), but a book is better than nothing. I use to think that way. You'ld have to tie me down to get me to read. Then years ago I pick up a TV tie book of my favorite show at the time and discovered something, I could actually see the story in my head as I read. I still sometimes confuse stories I seen while reading and ones I saw on TV. Besides I'll name 2 major advantages books have over TV as yet:

1. Some characters that have been remove because the actors portraying them left due to money, other projects, etc. can be brought back.
2. Stories never developed because the technology just doesn't exist yet to pull it off. You can do anything in a book.

So thnik positive. The main thing we wanted was closure. Prayer answered!


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I don't write on this board often so my message is connected, which I did not expect, I'll have to experiment a little more.

Sorry, in my case a book won't do it. I want at the very least a 2 hour movie tying up all the loose ends the show left hanging. I still can't believe they did this to their loyal audience. I watched every show except for 5 while my dad was sick, died and buried. Then I caught up on my computer. Even Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip, which wasn't picked up for a second season, wrote a final ending so fans would not be left in the lurch. What's with sci-fi writers? First its Stargate then the 4400 and Dead Zone. We get little enough of choice sci-fi on TV, I would think they would want to protect what audience they have.

Anne
June911
QUOTE (mrsl2 @ Jun 24 2008, 11:52 AM) *
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I don't write on this board often so my message is connected, which I did not expect, I'll have to experiment a little more.

Sorry, in my case a book won't do it. I want at the very least a 2 hour movie tying up all the loose ends the show left hanging. I still can't believe they did this to their loyal audience. I watched every show except for 5 while my dad was sick, died and buried. Then I caught up on my computer. Even Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip, which wasn't picked up for a second season, wrote a final ending so fans would not be left in the lurch. What's with sci-fi writers? First its Stargate then the 4400 and Dead Zone. We get little enough of choice sci-fi on TV, I would think they would want to protect what audience they have.

Anne



I'm just curious, but why wont a book work in your case? About Stargate, you know a DVD was recently released continuing the story, "The Ark of Truth", and another one is due out soon.
David01
This is.... BEYOND AWESOME! I've read some of Greg Cox's books in the past (specifically Star Trek ones) and have full faith in him continuing The 4400 story, I'm sure along with other writers. This is absolutely wonderful news, and I look forward to future updates on the matter.
hogsmead44035
A book would be ok if it were connected a 4400 movie or one last season. The fans have earned that much. Give the show and the fans a proper ending, because it really stinks when the heads of a network end a show without giving it proper clousure.
bornfree
I agree with a closure on a TV (even if is a 2 hours one) . I am an avid reader, and yes, I will enjoy the book (or books). But is not fair for the audience to leave something unfinished like that. I'm shocked that something that looked so promising for a next season was left like that! is just not right.

Bring the book to elaborate on the plot, but please, finish the show on TV!!!.
tomBurkhov
We can't look a gift horse in the mouth. closure in book form is still closure, and therefore still a godsend. remember that all networks care about is the money. perhaps if the books are a commercial success, then the network may follow it up with a TV adaptation.

however, I do have one major concern: will the book be in line with the sentiments of the original writers? (will it be canon?)
zippylittlerat
I agree with Tom: I think it's excellent that we're getting the closure (or at least the extension!) that we've been petitioning and hoping for. I'm hoping Tom, Diana, and all of our favorites will still be the heroes (and villains) that we've come to know. smile.gif
djacobs
I don't think I could handle a book series that goes on for a long time. I can see it now, one book after another and then "BAM!!" the book series stopped without an ending. I don't want to spend all my time reading one book after another to see it end like the televison series. So how about we get to the end of the story with one, maybe two books and give this story closure. I love The 4400 to death, but can't keep hanging on to a "what if" plot that gets dropped off with a big question mark. If that were to happen again I don't thinks I could live with myself. And I agree that a book does have it advantages. I have to believe that if the owners to this story are willing to let it come out in book form, then it is certain that we will not see the show ever continued in the form that it once had. One might see a mini series a couple of years from now, but this book will probably be the "final act". I would be very happy to see this book in print!
Fishos
YES! WOOHOO!

Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!!!

Ah season 5!!!! Omg this is wonderful. Book is perfectly fine. What I really care for in The 4400 is the story, anyway.
amerirish
I will purchase the book or books when they are released, but I am definitely disappointed that we won't have a televised PROPER finale. I love the story of The 4400 also, but I equally loved the actors who brought those wonderful characters to life. They've been cheated just as much as we fans in my opinion.
Fishos
I personally don't feel that way. The actors do awesome job in bringing the characters to life, but they're only the exterior. What I *love* lies beneath the surface.

You have surely seen an actor not while acting; they're *nothing* like their characters, not as charming and not as smart. (no offense!)
Syco
I disagree with the sentiments about a two hour finale, The 4400 deserves more then that, and two hours would never do it justice. It would end up being like the Roswell ending, which sucked!
NTACvic
I totally agree with you, Syco. A two hours finale would be too short. That's my point of view. There would be so many questions to develop and answer. Now, that's so great to learn there will be books to continue our favourite series. Thank you for that!!
heart
Hey all. Thats great about the book, but I just don't think I can get behind it. Like you said June its just not the same. . Take care and thanks for the news biggrin.gif
hippiegeek
I read the Vesuvius Prophecy last week. It is actually set during season 3 & was a lot of fun. It's not the same as a season 5, but still it was nice to get a Thomas fix. Since they won't give us a season 5 then I hope the books keep coming. It keeps the characters alive.
Sinjun
A book series would be great >.> certainly worked with the Deep Space Nine series after that series was over with.. but the interesting thing would be the write the entire series in book format then they could easily do all the things they wanted to do with the series and continue on >.>
mozzy
I would REALLY like a reply to this.

Has the writer been able to contact Scott Peters, the creator of The 4400, because I think that if anyone has the right to have a say in the "real" ending, it is the creator. Can I hear an amen on that!
amerirish
AMEN, Mozzy!

I started a thread where we can list questions, issues, etc. that we would like to be addressed in the book series. I also have stated that I truly hope that Greg and whatever other writers there are, contact the original show writers, producers and importantly the cast. They are the ones who brought those wonderful characters to life so I think their input would be invaluable.
SwtHazeleyez
WOW!! Please don't make us wait tooooo long. I noticed that USA stopped running the re-runs late night a few weeks ago & I got really upset. I need my 4400 fix. I was hoping that the Sci-Fi channel would pick up the series. There were so many stories yet to be told.

Beth
GeorgeC
Yes, and the idea of a book sound great, but I hope they could do an audio version, too. A lot of people don't read novels these days and that would make it easy for the majority of us, because we could just listen too it.

Thanks, GeorgeC


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Judi65
QUOTE (LilyLemony @ Jun 16 2008, 04:23 PM) *
Neat! He should ask the fans what we want! Now wouldn't that be awesome? smile.gif


I wish they would have asked also. Me and my DH loved the show. We recorded it whenever we
weren't able to watch it. Why have the show at all if they were going to just end it with no conclusion.
I don't like the books and shows because they usually are so different.

mad.gif NO MORE 4400
amerirish
Hey all....check out what I found on amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/Wet-Work-4400-Dayton...5358&sr=1-2

anyone have any idea what this is all about? huh.gif
June911
QUOTE (amerirish @ Jul 22 2008, 09:05 AM) *
Hey all....check out what I found on amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/Wet-Work-4400-Dayton...5358&sr=1-2

anyone have any idea what this is all about? huh.gif



Here's what I found:


4400 taken. 4400 returned.
With no memory of where they've been.
And they haven't aged a day.
Some have returned with startling new abilities...
1992: For nearly a decade, the international assassin known only as "the Wraith" has eluded authorities. Political leaders, powerful heads of business, terrorists known and suspected have numbered among the many victims until -- without explanation -- the Wraith disappears....

2005: Tom Baldwin and Diana Skouris are investigating Jordan Collier's murder but they're pulled off the case. Washington believes the Wraith, a one-time freelance agent for the U.S. government, is active again. When a high-ranking CIA officer who oversaw the rogue operator's activities is killed, evidence at the scene points to the Wraith and that this highly-efficient killer is now a 4400. The NTAC agents only have thirteen-year-old leads to follow an assassin who was never caught. Suddenly, the Wraith kills another Returnee. Why? What does this mean? Can the mounting fears of the 4400 be right? Or is this just one Returnee who has gone off the track? Baldwin and Skouris need to know, but will they find out before the Wraith completes this deadly covert objective?
Quiet
I'm afraid a book just won't do it for me. I've read other books based off television series and they take on a life of their own and become almost completely removed from the original source material.

A two-hour movie, or a short 2-3 part miniseries to finish off The 4400 plotlines would be much more welcome.
June911
QUOTE (Quiet @ Aug 5 2008, 10:02 AM) *
I'm afraid a book just won't do it for me. I've read other books based off television series and they take on a life of their own and become almost completely removed from the original source material.

A two-hour movie, or a short 2-3 part miniseries to finish off The 4400 plotlines would be much more welcome.



I think anything they put on TV that short would be a rushed hack-job. I read books that did that and felt worse than if they left it unfinished. I think it needs to be longer for true closure. So I hope the books will be a start that we can all support by buying and that in turn will win us what we all want, the 4400 back on TV. And if that turns out not to be, at a longer book series like "Star Trek" perhaps. But I haven't given up on TV.
Cribbage
Due to the well-known poor marketing of this show originally along with the poor timeslots it was given (particularly in my country, Australia), I never watched the 4400 beyond the first season when it was shown originally. That is until recently when I acquired all the DVDs. I must say I was blown away - you literally couldn't drag me away from the TV and I watched the lot within a week. It is beyond question my favourite show of all time now for reasons I'm sure you're all too familiar with.

This of course leads me here - I now, like the rest of you, am gutted about the cancellation and furious with the way it was left so open-ended.

Whilst a book, in theory, would put my mind at ease, and whilst any 4400 book - final series continuation or otherwise - is great news indeed, I don't think I would be satisfied by this particular book. Again, don't get me wrong - it's great news regardless and I'm not anti-reading.. I just don't think I could accept a book written purely by fans of the show as the definitive ending. If the original creator got involved I'd be happy to call it at that, but while I'd definitely buy and read this book, I wouldn't view it as anything more than interesting Fan Fiction.
JordanFan
I would prefer for the show to continue through a movie or another season on tv, but if I can get a book series I will take that too, I just want more of the 4400, I can't stand the thought of this series not going on in some format.
HiRolliN
im glad to hear that there will some sort of continuation to the series. its been a long time since i read a book but i will certainly make time to read the book.
elosip
I'm happy for the book and I will get it for sure but I too would love to have the TV series continue as it just won't be the same. This is my favorite series and I was so bummed when it was cancelled. I have been boycotting USA every since. I refuse to watch any USA program until the complete this series!
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