[font="Comic Sans MS"][/font]

House has turned into a soap opera, a boring soap opera!

They should have stuck with the same three members of the team. Their interaction and subtle feelings made it much more enjoyable without all that messing around with romance, ugly and uninteresting new team and the broken relationship with Wilson.

It is literally a tragedy that you're now entering the genre of all the other medical shows. It was perfect the way it was with the 6 main people and what happens to a patient with House and his interesting old team.

I would tend to agree with you Bubba. It took me awhile to get used to the new dynamic of the show what with the new team and all, but it did grow on me. As a matter of fact I think the last 2 episodes of this season were my favorites of the entire series thus far. It is kind of a shame that Cameron and Chase have been delegated to the background this year, but overall I think the show is still good. I am interested in seeing what happens to House and Wilson's friendship next season.

Yea well change is.
Though I miss the old team, I think the new team has potential

I don't dislike the new team speciallly I like Amber, but she is dead and for me the show is not the same. The energy and tone are not the same. I hope that they don't kill the magic of house.

I was getting really tired of the old team, and welcome the change. They had done what they could with the characters and their backstories, and it would've had to go all ER to move any farther with them. I just hope they dont Cameronize 13, she's a good character in her own right, and doesn't need the sanctimonious piety of Cameron

I wouldnt say house stinks now, granted it IS a little slow, and soap opera-ish. But i think the new team is refreshing, and no matter how much i love the old team, the new team does have some chemimstry. Especially number thirteen and house, gotta love that. But the old team is still some what there, they are in episodes so they havent COMPLETELY left, again, of course youre gonna miss them and want them back they are the ORIGINAL house team lol, but you have to give the newbs a chance.
XD
But idk, thats my opinion.

How did Amber get fired? I missed that one...

IDK, but I still love HOUSE. I love all of the episodes. My favorites so far are "House's Head" and "Wilson's Heart". I am looking forward to a new season. I did love the old people, but I am learning to like the new also. They do need to change it up or we will get bored with the same-old, same-old. So, we'll just have to wait and see what a new season brings.

I'm with everyone else about the new crew. I don't think she (amber)was fired. I think he didn't select her during the interview process. Which he still referred to her as the bitch. LOL

I just can't wait for the new season, the new team has potentials alright they are better than the old team, I just don't know what to expect with the new season , will the old team and new team combine ?

I love the show as long as house is an arrogant ass dealing with his fight against himself I'll watch. As a cystic fibrosis patient studying to be a psychologist I deal with some similar inner termoil .. at least now I can laugh at myself easier.

I much prefer the old team to the new. I like Kutner, but find him completely unbelievable as a doctor, and Thirteen is a horribly miscast joke. It's not enough to be "hot" as David Shore seems to find her; this is not "The OC." Nothing about her says "doctor" to me, and she needs to find another expression to go with "blank." The writers have been shoving her "mystery" at us for 15 episodes and I'm still uninterested and unimpressed. Tossing aside two attractive, charismatic, and talented actors (Jennifer Morrison and Jesse Spencer) to push this new crew forward is sad. I think the Powers That Be at House were very surprised to find they had such a large and ardent fan base.

There was no need to make this drastic a change. The ratings had been increasing every year, which means people liked what they were seeing. (The ratings did NOT increase this year - they went down.) I've seen a lot of complaints about the new team and Season 4, including some from very well respected TV critics such as TV Guide's Matt Roush. I think that anytime the old team interacts with the new, the old team commands my attention and interest. They light up the screen; I have to force myself not to channel surf when the new team is on the screen alone. The newbies have NO chemistry, in my opinion. They look like what they are - ACTORS. Not doctors.

Changes could have been made gradually; drastically changing the dynamics of the cast alienated a lot of people, including me. I've still been watching, hoping for Chase and Cameron to return to normal, and for House to return to his character from the first two seasons. He used to put the medicine first, he used to be introspective; last season he seemed more like a one-joke character, and a dirty joke at that. The season finale was exciting and well-acted, but look at all the incredible - and unbelievable - things that happened! House died - twice, in fact - yet continued to diagnose after a concussion and heart attack. He also has a deep brain probe, which kills him again. Cuddy turns stripper, Chase adds another talent - now he knows how to hypnotize people! - and Amber dies in a gut-wrenching scene. Thirteen discovers she has a fatal disease (which I couldn't care less about) and the friendship between House and Wilson is ripped apart.

The white bus scene gave me hope that the upcoming season will be better, as House finally turned introspective and forced to examine the his own actions and guilt. THAT'S what I've been missing. I hope we truly get to see House trying to face the consequences of behavior. I hope we see more Chase and Cameron, and much less Thirteen, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

13's mystery was revealed in the season finale, she tested positive for Huntingtons Disease, and before that, her name was revealed as Dr. Rena Hadley. So as far as I know, that's the only mystery they were concealing until now.

They dragged Thirteen's name "mystery" out for months, even after viewers saw her full name on Chase's betting slip in one of the early episodes. One of the executive producers, Katie Jacobs, laughed about whether or not her first name would ever be revealed - LONG after we already knew what it was! Why try to make a mystery out of it? Why did Thirteen try to make a mystery out of it?

There was also the mystery of why Thirteen was so brooding and kept to herself, only to find out that she is a bisexual AND she may have Huntington's Disease. NOW her mystery is WHO she is going to sleep with; Olivia Wilde teasingly raised this question herself in a TV Guide article. We now know she has Huntington's Disease, but that was not revealed until the last episode when there was already too much going on.

The Powers That Be at House were the ones who made such a big deal about Thirteen's "mystery." They said she was "a mystery wrapped in an enigma." The only mystery I'm interested in with regard to this character is when she is leaving the series.

[font="Courier New"][/font][/size][color="#000080"][/color]

[size="3"]I feel the powers that be just felt that they had to take this show somewhere else, after so many episodes of House being follwed around by his 'team'. In order to do that, they had to make some radical changes, and hope for the best.

IMHO, there have been goods and bads, but mostly bads. I find myself cringing at House's personality much more now than I did before. It's almost like he doesn't have anyone close enough to balance him out, especially now with Wilson out of the picture, for however long. The new PI guy may prove interesting, who knows? I do like that addition.

But I see this show getting more and more ridiculous from a medical stand point, and seeing House's actions as a doctor who is just so over the top, it's almost cartoon-like-that is moronic! NO M.D. would get away with the carp that he does! And I know that's part of the charistma of this show, but they have taken him to a whole new level, and I don't care for it at all.

I say, tone down the antics, get back to the business of healing people, and stop with the blackmailing of your team members. What is THAT about, anyway? He is getting less and less likable per episode. Are they TRYING to destroy this character? I sure am getting tired of him! But I continue to watch, in hopes they'll regress, in order to progress. Know what I mean??

I somehow missed this topic and posted similar feelings in another thread. I won't go about the business of repeating my entire post, especially since it was more long-winded than interesting the first time.

In a sense I understand the team change. I knew it was an inevitability. I just think it was about 4 seasons premature and I think they chose the wrong people. 13 very well may be hot, but hotness has never been the selling point of House. They actually had talented actors and good story lines, so the hot factor was not a prominent part of the show. I couldn't agree more with the poster who said 13 needs an expression to go with blank. That had me rolling on the floor. Well, it would have if the floor weren't so dirty here at work.

In terms of the ratings, I don't think you can really use those as an accurate guage of what's happening with the show. I'm sure there are many people, like myself, who have been avid House fans since the show's beginning and, based solely on that, continue to watch with complete dissatisfaction as the show flushes itself down the toilet.

I think House and Foreman need to dial back the rectum thing a bit. Both were walking the fine line before, and now both have leaped over it and are completely unlikeable. Switch 13 for that gal that House interviewed a few seasons back but didn't hire because her shoes were too nice. Bring back Wilson's mischievous banter with House (if that's even possible at this point). Make House smart again, instead of a moron who has no idea what's going on until the 11th hour. If they do that, the show has a chance. If they don't, I give it a couple more seasons. Even I may give up on it eventually.

[font="Comic Sans MS"]Well yea its kinda dumb,but it gives you more views and the variety of people house likes to work with.I im a huge fan of the show and if it was still Foreman,Chase,and Cameron i wouldnt watch it as much.They get boring after a while,we needed some new scenery.And the things we learn about the newbies isnt that bad and then it usually flips back to something from the old crew.Like the Chase and Cameron relatioship I think it's great that they like each other and all but every where you look nowadays is about them and not House or anyone else on the show.I could care less if they changed the crew a million more times jsut as long as they keep Cuddy,House,and Wilson.But regardless,i like it that they are merging the 2 teams together now.

Well if they would make him "smart" at the begging the show would serve no purpose.You would know what was happening to the patient and they would have them treated within the first 10 minutes.I think its better doing it towards the end becuase it gives the viewers a chance to but the thinking caps on-they can try and figure out what is wrong instead of not having a chance and just haveing a bunch of bumbo jumbo thrown in their face.[/font]

It's possible to be smart and not have figured out the answer. I agree that they shouldn't solve the puzzle at the beginning of the show, but that's a far cry from having the main character stumble around like a blithering idiot seemingly oblivious to the fact that he even has a case. It seems like they are sacrificing House's purpose to expand on irrelevant other happenings. Again, that's just this idiot's opinion.

I don't think the show stinks but it is definitely a different show then it was the first 3 seasons. Much of season 4 was spent having House pick a new team and less time with his personal relationships. Of course the writers strike caused the season to be cut short. I think we got only 16 episodes instead of 24.

I think season 4 was brilliant with the House/Wilson/Amber story line and House's Head/Wilson's Heart was probably the 2 best episodes of the series. You can't go wrong with House and Wilson interacting together. The Birthmark episode was great. It felt like old times with the House and Wilson friendship. Plus you got to learn a little more about House's childhood and his relationship with his mom and dad.

But...

Here are some of things that went wrong starting with season 4.

I was extremely disappointed in how little screen time Cameron and Chase received. Foreman was the only member of the original ducklings to be given any kind of storyline by having him work with the new team.

Same goes for Cuddy. No mention of her struggles to get pregnant or really anything personal about her. They only used her when House needed her approval on a treatment for his POTW.

13/Thirteen. Enough already with her. She is being shoved down our throats. Think about it, we know more about her life then we do about any of the original ducklings. Her character has potential especially with her Huntington's but pushing her on the audience isn't helping. Let us slowly get to know the character so we can root for her instead of wishing her gone. I think it wouldn't be so bad except the writers have completely ignored the much liked original team.

Oh and more clinic duty! I miss seeing House interact or should I say trying to not interact with the clinic patients.

I agree the show isn't as good as it once was, but it's not horrible. I love House no matter what. I just wish that Cameron and Chase were in it more often, I'd be a lot happier if they were in it more often or if they combined them or something like that. Also, now that House and Wilson are sort of getting all good again, that's nice. I am enjoying the new season, but maybe not as much as in the past.

I think they should've waited a couple seasons before bringing in a new team. The way it was would've eventually gotten worn out, but I think it had 1 or 2 seasons left.

I wonder if the writers of House are realizing they may have made a mistake. In the last episode, though they apparently want Cameron to look like 13 even though it doesn't suit her at all (the self-destructive, mentally diminished bisexual look just doesn't work with Cameron's personality), they actually made the show much more about Cameron and Chase and much less about the new team. The new team mostly just sat there in the episode. It was GREAT! Hopefully we can look forward to more of that.

She did NOT get fired she was in a crash with House and she died

Boy, I couldn't agree more, they need to get 13 out of there, and the sooner the better. She just seems like a brooding, dull person that adds nothing to any of the episodes (except I guess the soap opera of her and her girlfriend, if you call that adding).

The show already has a brooding grouch in Forman (Foreman??), and that's often more than enough. Too bad they killed off Amber; in retrospect they should have gotten rid of 13 and then brought Amber in to replace her.

She did get fired in the forced "downsizing" of staff...I remember feeling bummed that she was the one, because she was an interesting character, though somewhat mercenary. Then she got involved with Wilson, but as far as I remember she never was 'rehired'. The firing was overshadowed by her getting killed in following episodes.

Right on Bubba!!! I agree, house is definitly persistant as far as keeping viewers interest including my own. I am however, upset that "13" basically took Cameron's spot on House's team. Yea, we get it, she's as bisexual as she is uninteresting. I think they should of kept Cameron instead of replacing her with 13. Does anyone else seem bothered by this switch??

I don't know maybe it's just me but I like the switch up. It would have gotten old having the same team, but still having them in the show was smart and Cameron seems torn by her choice to leave. Also I thought the picking of the new team was hilarious and gave us a little more insight into House as a person and a doctor choosing his staff. House is sexy, arrogant, wounded, and a genius if you ask me he's all they'll ever need to keep the show going. And I love the puzzles!

house was good be four but it needed some change

[font="Book Antiqua"][/font][size="2"][/size][color="#006400"][/color]
I agree i really liked Ambers energy, i think they should have dropped number 13 shes depressing!!

Look who ever made this or came up with this you need to just quit watching t.v HOUSE is better than ever and if it was not rating would be going down not up so just get rid of your t.v and keep your comments to your self.

in a way your right. I liked the old team a lot better and im pissed that wilson is gone.
But i still love house

Wait i thought wilson came back at the end of the episode with House's "Father's" funeral

Wilson didn't leave, he's still on House so no worries.

I was a true blue House Fan but this season has made a turn in a direction that I just can't follow. I just can't continue to watch a show that wants to display alternative sexual lifestyles. I loved the old House and the suspense of watching the team find the right cure in the nick of time - but now it is all about exploiting sex and drug use.

Don't watch much TV do you?

House has always been about drug use.

Does,,,

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Ring any bells?

I GUESS I LOVE THE SHOW ANYWAY! oi just really liked the old team there so much more cooler and funnier the new team is all "brhind eachothers backs" and "drama drama i lov u " its just better with carmron,forman,chase and house and duh WILSON HES SO FUNNY and his attemps to keep house in line are amazing! i just love the show hugh is my role mottle and i would love to meet him i watch his show every night its on GO HOUSE !

I DONT WATCH TV BUT I SAW HOUSE AND.....NOW THE ONLY TV SHOW I WATCH IS HOUSE!.,please keep that show going but get the "new" team out of there its obvious not very many people like them and there makin it into a soap opra i lov the old team there amazing and tough me soo much more than the new team is now ohhhh well just dont get rid of house and everything is all good in the end

I totally agree with you "Housecrazy". I like the old episodes much better. I like the cases he solves and the team he solves them with.

Excuse me??? You joined a message board to tell another member that they should quit watching the show rather than stating their opinion on a message board? A message board is all about stating opinions and making informed comments. What you apparently have mistaken this forum for is a FAN CLUB; I'm sure you can find one of those somewhere else, but not on a general message board which is created for both positive and negative viewer feedback.

And the ratings HAVE gone down - way down - as in MILLIONS of viewers. They started going down after the end of Season 3 - when they were at the very TOP of their ratings. That was before all the unnecessary changes. There have been many articles referring to the ratings problems, as well as many critics who have been upset with the direction the show has taken over the last year or two. Would you believe a Season 5 repeat on Fox was #61 in the weekly ratings? That's unheard of for this show! A recent article stated that they had lost 24% of their viewers since last year. That's almost 1/4 of their audience.

So, before you launch into a rude and grammatical nightmare of a rant aimed at another member, please know what you are talking about.

I love House. My only real problem with it is the predictability in the sense that in every single major procedure the patient crashes. You just sit there and wait for it to happen. It happens every single time (all the ones in the OR that has the overhead viewing area). Don't you think the writers are great enough to find a way around this predictability??

But don't get me wrong--this is my favorite show. Can't stand when it's not on.

[size="5"]Hello,
I have watched HOUSE since the beginning...I have purchased the 1st 3 Seasons on DVD...there is nothing better than just sitting down and watching an entire season when you want to....AND NO COMMERCIALS. My son and husband have been teasing me about the show. When I get up in the middle of the night I plug a DVD in & it goes for hours...it doesn't stop at each episode and play the theme song over and over again.
I do get very annoyed Dr. House...I don't understand why talk to him...however, I like ornarie (spelling?) people so I do get a chuckle out of him...he does care about people, you can see it at times when he sheepishly looks down...tho he does that when he is wrong also.
When he left a rectal thermometer in that cop...that over did it...He was SO WRONG in his behavior and pulled others (supposed friends) down with him...Thank God for Cuddy lieing to get him out of it.
One thing I know I love about the series is this, Dr. House does not stop until he has the answer...I am sure anyone of us when we are ill is hoping whatever then answer our family Dr. gives us is the end of it...I don't know how many Dr.s really take it after more than one visit...If you ever watch Mystery Diagnosis...people have to go from Dr to Dr, state to state to finally get relief.
The program about the child seeing flying saucers, who really had a phantom twin inside, there have been a couple shows on TV recently about the girl with 8 limbs & the octypus man (just on last week) which is just what this episode was about.
Is it my imagination or is he NOT popping as many pills this year?
I love the piano music they play in the background...I would like a CD of it...it is restful, but I also like Halleluha they have used a couple times.
Since this is my 1st day on this sight I better keep reading before I reask questions that tick someone off.

One last thing - WHY DOES CAMERON THINK SHE SHOULD BE A BLONDE? Not everyone looks good as a blonde.

Old format was better, to me. Why did they feel the need to change. If I had been a memeber of the old crew and got disrepected like that I would of walked. I mean if they did it just to not have to pay them more cause the show was successful now and their contracts were rolling that is pretty low.

In watching the Three Stories episode it seemed to work out better because you didn't know the outcome of the patients until the end and then didn't know one of the people that were sick was actually House himself. Maybe if they had a few patients at a time and occasionally a few would die that might stir the storyline plot alittle. I don't know, but I liked the way Three Stories was made. That's my 2 cents on it.

I agree and disagree, house has too many people and they dont relate the same way with each other because their "history" together isnt as long and doesnt go as deep, but i am in love with house and Hugh Laurie is an amazing actor, so i still faithfully watch the show

I can't watch House anymore. Hugh Laurie is great, his character is great but he was surrounded by cardboard cut-outs. The new team is a new set of cardboard cut-outs as well, but even less developed than the old.

House suffers from the "hot women" syndrome on TV-- all women have to be size two and look like models. Well, I know it's TV, eye candy is OK and after all, they're actresses. So, that's OK when you can sell it-- I mean I totally buy that Sasha Alexander is Caitlyn Todd and a Federal Agent, but Cuddy and Cameron are simply not credible as doctors.

House also suffers from the "adolescent male syndrome" meaning the scriptwriters insist ALL the women are hot for him. I mean really! Cuddy, Cameron, Stacy, that 17-year old over-sexed girl with her thong showing outside of her jeans? Sheesh. Come'on, he's not that great of a catch.

I think Sela Ward is a great actress, but does she have to be such a boring character?

I've already ranted that Lisa Cuddy has no credibility as an administrator nor a doctor. She's right out of central casting and she shops in juniors' clothing section of Macy's.

Wilson is supposed to be a doctor, but he's dumb as a post. (cute though) Can we do something with his character?

Finally, all episodes have the same formula. 1. Get sick 2. First diagnoses seems to solve problem, patient just minutes from being discharged 3. projectile vomiting and/or spitting up blood ensues 4. commercial break 5. incompetent staff (especially Cuddy) make wrong diagnosis, yell at house that he can't be right 6. House belays their instructions (which were incorrect) 7. substitutes his diagnoses and treatment recommendations 8. saves patients life. 9. god forbid he go on vacation and Dr. Cuddy gives someone an aspirin-- she'll kill someone.

Thanks for listening to me vent. I'll go back to NCIS board now...

PS Did love the episodes when the police investigator was after him for drug use, when he got shot, when he recruited the janitor as Dr. Buffer, the one with Dave Mathews. So, I'm not trolling here...

I somewhat agree with you, House has gotten a little boring, but i have gotten used to the new characters now. There are times where the old ones could make certain episodes better, but the new people are good too. I don't like taub though. And i wish they went deeper into the characters' pasts and lives, not just the present, for example Wilson and his bro, or House and his stepfather, both are good.

House is not the show it once was; maybe they've mined all there is. Still love Hugh Laurie, but am also tired of House. Yes, every episode has a dying patient whose symptom-thingys mystefy even briliant House until the 11th hour. AND the fact that you can absolutely count on the patient to gush blood from various orafices . . .
I'll watch it as long as it's on; but would be so nice to have less soap opera and more progress. Maybe House (the person) can't go further; maybe that means the show can't either.