Actually, I have suffered from clinical depression for years, and I never lost interest in everything. A lot of things yes, but not everything. I have found that having that interest in something is the very thing that gets you through it. Maybe the fact that Bobby wanted his job back so bad is what has saved him, given him something to focus on in the middle of the night. Just a thought.

I am SO with you on that!! I like longish hair, and I have to say I was so jealous of Greta when she ran her fingers through Vincent's long curls on that beach in Desire. I wanted to do it!!

LMAO you guys make me laugh when you talk about wardrobe. I like that we're noticing some of the same clothing. Same quote on Eames from season 4? its been three years! I'm sure you've worn a coat more than once in three years. Same with Bobby and his work clothes. It makes more sense - makes the characeters more believable

At least thats my opinion.

2 scenes from Betrayed

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZySfpWMhas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlhKlxMzcCE

I totally - I mean TOTALLY - mis-read what you had written. I thought it said "shippy", not "snippy"

I'm surprised no one has started a "Party! The Tie-Clip Has Died!" thread. People are so focussed on the poor BEARD.

I wonder if the reason for the Beard and casual clothes is due to the fact its a weekend case.

I don't know how many of you have seen the Canadian commercial (I'm guessing not many) so I'm going to type the whole thing out for you. For those who have not seen one of my typed commercials before, let me recap: *-means visual "-means audio. anything in italics is scene change of some kind.

(This is not the commercial but the teaser for the commercial, just don't ask why we have one)
announcer: "Stay tuned for Scenes from the next Law and Order Criminal Intent"
*blond/gray haired man rolls his eyes, Eames Laughs at him (they are alone in interogation room) cuts to Eames standing, man throws table aside. Black*

Commercial
Kathy (Ross' 'friend') :"I can't find my husband"
*Ross in a suite staring up at a stage, Kathy on stage*

Announcer: "Two young lovers"
*Two people kissing, cut to, same girl running down hall*

Announcer: "Leave their spouses"
*Kathy falls into chair, Ross catches her, they are at what looks like a NYPD banquet*

Eames: "A Missing Husband Case"
*Man from kissing scene grabs bag and leaves, cut to, Goren, Eames & Ross walking through the squad room*

Ross: "Kathy's a friend of NYPD and mine"
*Close up of Ross*

Announcer: "It was supossed to be an open and shut case"
*Goren and Eames searching car, Goren finds something (maybe a hair) on the seat*

Eames: "How'd you track Avery down?"
*Eames and Guy from teaser (the blond/gray one) in interrogation alone, cut to Guy looking at picture of a girl*

Announcer: "But nothing"
*Guy punches mirror*

Blond/gray haired guy: "What am I?"
*in interogation looking at Eames*

Eames: "A wife beater"
*Eames looking at guy*

Eames: Maybe a murderer"
*Guy with bloody hand from punching mirror*

Announcer: "Is as"
*Eames standing in interogation, guy pushes table aside, steps towards her threateningly (may I add that Eames stands her ground!)*

Announcer: "It seems"
*Goren in parking lot*

Ross: "Thank you for your time detectives, but were done with Kathy's case."
*Ross walking towards Goren and Eames in the squad room while they lean on their desks, cut to, Kathy in pink dress with cops (someone who might be the cheif of D's) around her.*

Goren: "Captain something"
*Goren and Eames leaning on desk*

Goren: "seems off"
*Goren pulls licence plate out from under stone block aid (like the one's you find in parking lots)*

Ross: "There's a reason for that"
*Close up of Ross*

Announcer: "All new Law and Order Criminal Intent, next Thursday only on CTV."
*General CTV logo with detectives in the background (I notice they still have Falicie, how long till they get Wheeler back on it?)*

I wonder if the reason for the Beard and casual clothes is due to the fact its a weekend case.

I'll be kicking hubby and kids out of the living room on Sunday at 8:55 PM.....gotta get ready. I'm hoping things will start to heal b/t/w G/E. The promos aren't giving too many clues except for the usual "you're out of line, Detective!".

And HelloBobby, I get what you're saying about NY---being from NE PA, I swear in PA if you're not from Philly, Pitt, or Harrisburg, you're treated like you're from the Hee Haw Cornfield. wassupwithat?

I'll be kicking hubby and kids out of the living room on Sunday at 8:55 PM.....gotta get ready. I'm hoping things will start to heal b/t/w G/E. The promos aren't giving too many clues except for the usual "you're out of line, Detective!".

And HelloBobby, I get what you're saying about NY---being from NE PA, I swear in PA if you're not from Philly, Pitt, or Harrisburg, you're treated like you're from the Hee Haw Cornfield. wassupwithat?

I don't know how many of you have seen the Canadian commercial (I'm guessing not many) so I'm going to type the whole thing out for you. For those who have not seen one of my typed commercials before, let me recap: *-means visual "-means audio. anything in italics is scene change of some kind.

(This is not the commercial but the teaser for the commercial, just don't ask why we have one)
announcer: "Stay tuned for Scenes from the next Law and Order Criminal Intent"
*blond/gray haired man rolls his eyes, Eames Laughs at him (they are alone in interogation room) cuts to Eames standing, man throws table aside. Black*

Commercial
Kathy (Ross' 'friend') :"I can't find my husband"
*Ross in a suite staring up at a stage, Kathy on stage*

Announcer: "Two young lovers"
*Two people kissing, cut to, same girl running down hall*

Announcer: "Leave their spouses"
*Kathy falls into chair, Ross catches her, they are at what looks like a NYPD banquet*

Eames: "A Missing Husband Case"
*Man from kissing scene grabs bag and leaves, cut to, Goren, Eames & Ross walking through the squad room*

Ross: "Kathy's a friend of NYPD and mine"
*Close up of Ross*

Announcer: "It was supossed to be an open and shut case"
*Goren and Eames searching car, Goren finds something (maybe a hair) on the seat*

Eames: "How'd you track Avery down?"
*Eames and Guy from teaser (the blond/gray one) in interrogation alone, cut to Guy looking at picture of a girl*

Announcer: "But nothing"
*Guy punches mirror*

Blond/gray haired guy: "What am I?"
*in interogation looking at Eames*

Eames: "A wife beater"
*Eames looking at guy*

Eames: Maybe a murderer"
*Guy with bloody hand from punching mirror*

Announcer: "Is as"
*Eames standing in interogation, guy pushes table aside, steps towards her threateningly (may I add that Eames stands her ground!)*

Announcer: "It seems"
*Goren in parking lot*

Ross: "Thank you for your time detectives, but were done with Kathy's case."
*Ross walking towards Goren and Eames in the squad room while they lean on their desks, cut to, Kathy in pink dress with cops (someone who might be the cheif of D's) around her.*

Goren: "Captain something"
*Goren and Eames leaning on desk*

Goren: "seems off"
*Goren pulls licence plate out from under stone block aid (like the one's you find in parking lots)*

Ross: "There's a reason for that"
*Close up of Ross*

Announcer: "All new Law and Order Criminal Intent, next Thursday only on CTV."
*General CTV logo with detectives in the background (I notice they still have Falicie, how long till they get Wheeler back on it?)*

I don't know if it's from you or someone else, but the commercial from CTV is on Youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpUmtSdpxJo

When I first saw that preview, the way Ross' body is positioned, I thought he was telling Eames that she was out of line. Maybe the preview is lying and it is spliced together. I thought another comments from Ross was aimed at Eames too, but I will have to watch again.

If Ross says to G/E at the beginning, "I trust everything is OK" and they nod, and that is it, I will not be happy.

About PA, my father was from Hop Bottom, PA. Hops grow in the bottom of the creeks there. That is a HeeHaw town. Scranton is getting a better reputation though with The Office taking place there and the Yankees farm team there too. Except whenever we drive through Scranton, there is always construction. Dead stop, maddening, nobody doing actual work construction.

What the hell is Eames doing in there with a wife-beater without her partner? I know she can take care of herself, but why isn't Bobby there to protect her?

I can't wait to see how this plays out. Does he break into the room to slam that guy against the wall? Or is this part of the tension between them, that he lets her get hurt--But no, I don't believe he'd do that.

I finally recognize that one guy--He was the writer in "Self-Made." How do Bobby and Eames not recognize that they're surrounded by self-replicating humanistic robots?

Eames wants to be seen as a Cop, not as a woman, I am sure she wanted to be in there alone, and doesn't want men to be resueing her, I am sure she can take care of herself.

I wonder if the reason for the Beard and casual clothes is due to the fact its a weekend case.

A quick question that betrays my stupidity. Can you grow that much of beard between Friday night and Sunday morning? I know if wasn't a full beard, but it looked like more than heavy scruff to me.

I'll put money on the fact that this episode was shot before Purgatory was, based on Bobby's beard.

That wouldn't make sense though, since Purgatory was the epi where he got back to work...and the this next epi he is back at work.

They had this ep "in the can" before the writer's strike.

And it's so brutal, having to wait two weeks at a time to see another new Bobby-ep, but we're almost there....

You can say that again!!!! I thought the weekend would never get here and now it seems forever til tomorrow night!

Nope not from me, but that sure beats my written out version. It was a pretty good promo. Thanks for telling us where to see it!

You think that's long...without satalite TV or cable TV I have to wait 3 more months to view tommorrow night's show when it finally airs in repeat on NBC

You think that's long...without satalite TV or cable TV I have to wait 3 more months to view tommorrow night's show when it finally airs in repeat on NBC

They had this ep "in the can" before the writer's strike.

And it's so brutal, having to wait two weeks at a time to see another new Bobby-ep, but we're almost there....

If "Betrayed" was filmed before "Purgatory," it might not show any problems between Bobby and Eames. It would be good to see the two of them just being themselves, if a bit wierd.

I like the idea of us seeing Ross' blinded by personal concerns in dealing with a case. Perhaps he will have more empathy for Goren and understand better what drove him to go undercover at Tate's.

'Bout freaking time too. I'm getting a little tired of the Capt's 'Holier Than Thou' attitude toward Goren.
The Capt. needs to be taken down a peg. A Whole Peg!
(ahhh - I feel better know that I've gotten that off my chest. Thanks for letting me rant)

Agreed.

Do you think the betrayal indicated is . . . Eames somehow getting back at Bobby?

I don't know if it's from you or someone else, but the commercial from CTV is on Youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpUmtSdpxJo

Thank you very much! What a cool promo. It really has me excited about tonight's episode.

Actually if Eames is being threatened by Eric Roberts, it's a good opportunity for Goren to remind Eames that he, too, always has her back. I'd like to see him sort of burst in & yell at Roberts to sit down, pushing him back in his chair while doing it.

'Bout freaking time too. I'm getting a little tired of the Capt's 'Holier Than Thou' attitude toward Goren.
The Capt. needs to be taken down a peg. A Whole Peg!

I don't think so. I think Ross is a good captain who does look out for his detectives, I also think that he's "old school"--that Goren's unorthodox methods are not something he always understands, and that his breaking the rules is something Ross really dislikes. He may feel too that Goren's disregard for the regs undermined his authority. I think Ross is starting to understand Bobby's way of working and is giving him more slack, and more credit. Hey, he could have let Eames go after Bobby at Tate's by herself, or even order her to stay out of it and just called the prison on the phone--but no, he went with her, made sure his detective was allright.

I think Ross is right at the peg he's supposed to be at. Bobby is, after all, an acquired taste. Ross is starting to make the acquisition.

Yes, I know Eames can take care of herself but I wouldn't mind seeing that.

I don't think so. I think Ross is a good captain who does look out for his detectives, I also think that he's "old school"--that Goren's unorthodox methods are not something he always understands, and that his breaking the rules is something Ross really dislikes. He may feel too that Goren's disregard for the regs undermined his authority. I think Ross is starting to understand Bobby's way of working and is giving him more slack, and more credit. Hey, he could have let Eames go after Bobby at Tate's by herself, or even order her to stay out of it and just called the prison on the phone--but no, he went with her, made sure his detective was allright.

I think Ross is right at the peg he's supposed to be at. Bobby is, after all, an acquired taste. Ross is starting to make the acquisition.

Actually hullbound I just wanted to say I LOVE YOUR SIGNATURE PICTURE! lol! "sometimes I work with batman" I actually laughed out loud (and got weird looks from my brothers friends who are partying over here) when I saw it!


I too think Ross gets it. He didn't in Blindspot, but I think seeing how dedicated Goren was to his partner, and the fact he was right about Joe, also even though Bobby and him disagreed during season 6, in TWAH Ross is sympathetic to Goren. He's a good guy, who has a image he has to live up too, and is under tons of pressure. But I also think he looks out for his detectives, he did in endgame, in untethered in purgatory. He's looked out for Eames in Amends, and in Albatross. He's a good guy, and he's just doing his job.

Which is why this whole "Why isn't Goren protecting Eames" thing is weird. Because neither Goren OR Ross would of let her go in their to get hurt, they know she's tough, and it's probably part of the plan to get this guy to fess up, if he is a wife beater, then having a women in a position of power and more in control then him, would make in angry, and when she starts talking down to him that would make him madder, I think that is the plan, and they are all prepared for it.

From earlier episodes, you can see that Goren is an agressive man

When? Goren is only aggressive when he's desperate and distraught. We've never seen him get physically violent with suspects. The only time we've seen him violent is when the women in his life, that is, Eames and his mother, have been threatened.

so what does everyone think so far?

so what does everyone think so far?

so what does everyone think so far?