A Question for Andy Breckman (& other writers) for their recorded video segments inwhich viewers questions are answered.
Not going to happen now, but I'm wondering if the show originally was supposed to be darker. In other words that he was originally Trudy's killer & had a split personality, but these ideas were disposed of when the show became suddenly popular & real life people with OCD were watching.
I dont know if this was the case , but it might account for some things that I have noticed. a. He is or was a big fan of Willie Nelsons The Red Headed Stranger (in the early days of the series). The album is a concept album centered around an old song titled The Red Headed Stranger. On the album, the stranger is a former preacher who spends all of his time angry, feeling sorry for himself wandering around on his horse over his dead wife. Sound familiar. Except that the Red Headed Stranger was the one who killed his wife (& her lover) in a fit of jealousy. Was it originally planned that Monk be more like the REd Headed Stranger in personality?
b. What in the hell did Monk do to get booted off the police force? Whatever he did must have been very serious, possibly violent or even psychotic. He had showed violent tendacies in Mr. Monk Is On The Air.
c. Monk Blacks Out when he gets nervous. Could this have been an indication that he had killed Trudy & had suppressed the memory of it?
d. Monk's darker side is referred to in past episodes. I believe he is referred to as a 'Prince of Darkness' in "Mr. Monk Gets Cabin Fever". I could be wrong.
Had this question in my head for the past two years or so.
Hi there, Shadowbox. Welcome to the board.
Let me try to answer your questions:
a. He is or was a big fan of Willie Nelson's "The Red Headed Stranger" (in the early days of the series). The album is a concept album centered around an old song titled "The Red Headed Stranger". On the album, the stranger is a former preacher who spends all of his time angry, feeling sorry for himself wandering around on his horse over his dead wife. Sound familiar. Except that the Red Headed Stranger was the one who killed his wife (& her lover) in a fit of jealousy. Was it originally planned that Monk be more like the REd Headed Stranger in personality?
- I believe in this episode they were just making a comparison of losing a loved one, not impliciting Monk had killed her. Well, knowing Monk since the fisrt season, I could not even think on him killing his reason to live.
b. What in the hell did Monk do to get booted off the police force? Whatever he did must have been very serious, possibly violent or even psychotic. He had showed violent tendacies in Mr. Monk Is On The Air.
- He had OCD when he joined the Police, he married Trudy,his one and only love, and he was quite well handling his disorder that appears to be not so strong. When Trudy died, he twisted, he spent 3 years locked in his house, and his disorder increased 100% more. Thatīs why they " booted off" him, thatīs why he still wants to rejoin the force again. He blocked somehow his habilities and cannot figure out what happened to Trudy, it is a big and hurting issue to him, but he is slowly working on it.
c. Monk Blacks Out when he gets nervous. Could this have been an indication that he had killed Trudy & had suppressed the memory of it?
- I do not believe, sorry. He had dissociative episodes, but nothing in a violent way. By the contrary, it was in a very funny way!!
He was mad at the Radio Station, and I would be mad as well if it was with me. The authors just make Monk react like a normal man who was pissed off by some stupid and heartless moron.
d. Monk's darker side is referred to in past episodes. I believe he is referred to as a 'Prince of Darkness' in "Mr. Monk Gets Cabin Fever". I could be wrong.
- In this episode, Natalie was beggining working with Monk, she was discovering him. She said that, I believe, because she wasnīt used to be involved in so many murders and bad situations, she wasnīt used to deal with "Monk Karma" (itīa gift....and a curse). She was just joking around because of the bad situation the three of them were in ( Leland, Monk and Natalie stuck in a car, at Lelandīs birthday, in a rainy night, in the middle of the woods). By the end of this episode, Natalie corrects herself, telling that Monk is a blessed man who happen to be in the right place at the right moment to heal things, to fix what is wrong, to make justice.
I donīt know if I answered your questions, if I am right or if this is just my reading of Monk fictional life story. But, anyway, hereīs my thoughts!
Hugs
Mi
Let me try to answer your questions:
a. He is or was a big fan of Willie Nelson's "The Red Headed Stranger" (in the early days of the series). The album is a concept album centered around an old song titled "The Red Headed Stranger". On the album, the stranger is a former preacher who spends all of his time angry, feeling sorry for himself wandering around on his horse over his dead wife. Sound familiar. Except that the Red Headed Stranger was the one who killed his wife (& her lover) in a fit of jealousy. Was it originally planned that Monk be more like the REd Headed Stranger in personality?
- I believe in this episode they were just making a comparison of losing a loved one, not impliciting Monk had killed her. Well, knowing Monk since the fisrt season, I could not even think on him killing his reason to live.
b. What in the hell did Monk do to get booted off the police force? Whatever he did must have been very serious, possibly violent or even psychotic. He had showed violent tendacies in Mr. Monk Is On The Air.
- He had OCD when he joined the Police, he married Trudy,his one and only love, and he was quite well handling his disorder that appears to be not so strong. When Trudy died, he twisted, he spent 3 years locked in his house, and his disorder increased 100% more. Thatīs why they " booted off" him, thatīs why he still wants to rejoin the force again. He blocked somehow his habilities and cannot figure out what happened to Trudy, it is a big and hurting issue to him, but he is slowly working on it.
c. Monk Blacks Out when he gets nervous. Could this have been an indication that he had killed Trudy & had suppressed the memory of it?
- I do not believe, sorry. He had dissociative episodes, but nothing in a violent way. By the contrary, it was in a very funny way!!
He was mad at the Radio Station, and I would be mad as well if it was with me. The authors just make Monk react like a normal man who was pissed off by some stupid and heartless moron.
d. Monk's darker side is referred to in past episodes. I believe he is referred to as a 'Prince of Darkness' in "Mr. Monk Gets Cabin Fever". I could be wrong.
- In this episode, Natalie was beggining working with Monk, she was discovering him. She said that, I believe, because she wasnīt used to be involved in so many murders and bad situations, she wasnīt used to deal with "Monk Karma" (itīa gift....and a curse). She was just joking around because of the bad situation the three of them were in ( Leland, Monk and Natalie stuck in a car, at Lelandīs birthday, in a rainy night, in the middle of the woods). By the end of this episode, Natalie corrects herself, telling that Monk is a blessed man who happen to be in the right place at the right moment to heal things, to fix what is wrong, to make justice.
I donīt know if I answered your questions, if I am right or if this is just my reading of Monk fictional life story. But, anyway, hereīs my thoughts!
Hugs
Mi
QUOTE (shadowbox000 @ May 25 2008, 12:45 AM) 
A Question for Andy Breckman (& other writers) for their recorded video segments inwhich viewers questions are answered.
Not going to happen now, but I'm wondering if the show originally was supposed to be darker. In other words that he was originally Trudy's killer & had a split personality, but these ideas were disposed of when the show became suddenly popular & real life people with OCD were watching.
I don't know if this was the case , but it might account for some things that I have noticed. a. He is or was a big fan of Willie Nelson's "The Red Headed Stranger" (in the early days of the series). The album is a concept album centered around an old song titled "The Red Headed Stranger". On the album, the stranger is a former preacher who spends all of his time angry, feeling sorry for himself wandering around on his horse over his dead wife. Sound familiar. Except that the Red Headed Stranger was the one who killed his wife (& her lover) in a fit of jealousy. Was it originally planned that Monk be more like the REd Headed Stranger in personality?
b. What in the hell did Monk do to get booted off the police force? Whatever he did must have been very serious, possibly violent or even psychotic. He had showed violent tendacies in Mr. Monk Is On The Air.
c. Monk Blacks Out when he gets nervous. Could this have been an indication that he had killed Trudy & had suppressed the memory of it?
d. Monk's darker side is referred to in past episodes. I believe he is referred to as a 'Prince of Darkness' in "Mr. Monk Gets Cabin Fever". I could be wrong.
Had this question in my head for the past two years or so.
Not going to happen now, but I'm wondering if the show originally was supposed to be darker. In other words that he was originally Trudy's killer & had a split personality, but these ideas were disposed of when the show became suddenly popular & real life people with OCD were watching.
I don't know if this was the case , but it might account for some things that I have noticed. a. He is or was a big fan of Willie Nelson's "The Red Headed Stranger" (in the early days of the series). The album is a concept album centered around an old song titled "The Red Headed Stranger". On the album, the stranger is a former preacher who spends all of his time angry, feeling sorry for himself wandering around on his horse over his dead wife. Sound familiar. Except that the Red Headed Stranger was the one who killed his wife (& her lover) in a fit of jealousy. Was it originally planned that Monk be more like the REd Headed Stranger in personality?
b. What in the hell did Monk do to get booted off the police force? Whatever he did must have been very serious, possibly violent or even psychotic. He had showed violent tendacies in Mr. Monk Is On The Air.
c. Monk Blacks Out when he gets nervous. Could this have been an indication that he had killed Trudy & had suppressed the memory of it?
d. Monk's darker side is referred to in past episodes. I believe he is referred to as a 'Prince of Darkness' in "Mr. Monk Gets Cabin Fever". I could be wrong.
Had this question in my head for the past two years or so.
B. Basically he got booted off becuase he would have got killed if he hadn't. When Trudy died his OCD was worse and he just wasn't any good to anyone. I mean as bad as he was now I could imagine him before Sharona which I think he was near cataonic state. After all even he said he was drowning before he met her.
C. I really doubt it. We have ony see him black out for limited time. whoever killed trudy not only killed her also planned it out. Paying nunn off and setting it off etc. Besides I really don't think monk is building car bombs.
d. This is the transition period of natalie where to be honest the writers were kind of make her like Sharona in the sense Sharona messed with him about alot. She was pretty much joking as everytime he is around something bad happens. then in the end she is like he always figures the cases so it's a good thing he finds them.
QUOTE (micheleNasser @ May 25 2008, 08:38 AM)
Hi there, Shadowbox. Welcome to the board.
Let me try to answer your questions:
a. He is or was a big fan of Willie Nelson's "The Red Headed Stranger" (in the early days of the series). The album is a concept album centered around an old song titled "The Red Headed Stranger". On the album, the stranger is a former preacher who spends all of his time angry, feeling sorry for himself wandering around on his horse over his dead wife. Sound familiar. Except that the Red Headed Stranger was the one who killed his wife (& her lover) in a fit of jealousy. Was it originally planned that Monk be more like the REd Headed Stranger in personality?
- I believe in this episode they were just making a comparison of losing a loved one, not impliciting Monk had killed her. Well, knowing Monk since the fisrt season, I could not even think on him killing his reason to live.
b. What in the hell did Monk do to get booted off the police force? Whatever he did must have been very serious, possibly violent or even psychotic. He had showed violent tendacies in Mr. Monk Is On The Air.
- He had OCD when he joined the Police, he married Trudy,his one and only love, and he was quite well handling his disorder that appears to be not so strong. When Trudy died, he twisted, he spent 3 years locked in his house, and his disorder increased 100% more. Thatīs why they " booted off" him, thatīs why he still wants to rejoin the force again. He blocked somehow his habilities and cannot figure out what happened to Trudy, it is a big and hurting issue to him, but he is slowly working on it.
c. Monk Blacks Out when he gets nervous. Could this have been an indication that he had killed Trudy & had suppressed the memory of it?
- I do not believe, sorry. He had dissociative episodes, but nothing in a violent way. By the contrary, it was in a very funny way!!
He was mad at the Radio Station, and I would be mad as well if it was with me. The authors just make Monk react like a normal man who was pissed off by some stupid and heartless moron.
d. Monk's darker side is referred to in past episodes. I believe he is referred to as a 'Prince of Darkness' in "Mr. Monk Gets Cabin Fever". I could be wrong.
- In this episode, Natalie was beggining working with Monk, she was discovering him. She said that, I believe, because she wasnīt used to be involved in so many murders and bad situations, she wasnīt used to deal with "Monk Karma" (itīa gift....and a curse). She was just joking around because of the bad situation the three of them were in ( Leland, Monk and Natalie stuck in a car, at Lelandīs birthday, in a rainy night, in the middle of the woods). By the end of this episode, Natalie corrects herself, telling that Monk is a blessed man who happen to be in the right place at the right moment to heal things, to fix what is wrong, to make justice.
I donīt know if I answered your questions, if I am right or if this is just my reading of Monk fictional life story. But, anyway, hereīs my thoughts!
Hugs
Mi
Let me try to answer your questions:
a. He is or was a big fan of Willie Nelson's "The Red Headed Stranger" (in the early days of the series). The album is a concept album centered around an old song titled "The Red Headed Stranger". On the album, the stranger is a former preacher who spends all of his time angry, feeling sorry for himself wandering around on his horse over his dead wife. Sound familiar. Except that the Red Headed Stranger was the one who killed his wife (& her lover) in a fit of jealousy. Was it originally planned that Monk be more like the REd Headed Stranger in personality?
- I believe in this episode they were just making a comparison of losing a loved one, not impliciting Monk had killed her. Well, knowing Monk since the fisrt season, I could not even think on him killing his reason to live.
b. What in the hell did Monk do to get booted off the police force? Whatever he did must have been very serious, possibly violent or even psychotic. He had showed violent tendacies in Mr. Monk Is On The Air.
- He had OCD when he joined the Police, he married Trudy,his one and only love, and he was quite well handling his disorder that appears to be not so strong. When Trudy died, he twisted, he spent 3 years locked in his house, and his disorder increased 100% more. Thatīs why they " booted off" him, thatīs why he still wants to rejoin the force again. He blocked somehow his habilities and cannot figure out what happened to Trudy, it is a big and hurting issue to him, but he is slowly working on it.
c. Monk Blacks Out when he gets nervous. Could this have been an indication that he had killed Trudy & had suppressed the memory of it?
- I do not believe, sorry. He had dissociative episodes, but nothing in a violent way. By the contrary, it was in a very funny way!!
He was mad at the Radio Station, and I would be mad as well if it was with me. The authors just make Monk react like a normal man who was pissed off by some stupid and heartless moron.
d. Monk's darker side is referred to in past episodes. I believe he is referred to as a 'Prince of Darkness' in "Mr. Monk Gets Cabin Fever". I could be wrong.
- In this episode, Natalie was beggining working with Monk, she was discovering him. She said that, I believe, because she wasnīt used to be involved in so many murders and bad situations, she wasnīt used to deal with "Monk Karma" (itīa gift....and a curse). She was just joking around because of the bad situation the three of them were in ( Leland, Monk and Natalie stuck in a car, at Lelandīs birthday, in a rainy night, in the middle of the woods). By the end of this episode, Natalie corrects herself, telling that Monk is a blessed man who happen to be in the right place at the right moment to heal things, to fix what is wrong, to make justice.
I donīt know if I answered your questions, if I am right or if this is just my reading of Monk fictional life story. But, anyway, hereīs my thoughts!
Hugs
Mi
Great reply! I don`t think Monk was ever the intended killer of Trudy. You know your Monk!
QUOTE (micheleNasser @ May 25 2008, 07:38 AM)
Hi there, Shadowbox. Welcome to the board.
Let me try to answer your questions:
a. He is or was a big fan of Willie Nelson's "The Red Headed Stranger" (in the early days of the series). The album is a concept album centered around an old song titled "The Red Headed Stranger". On the album, the stranger is a former preacher who spends all of his time angry, feeling sorry for himself wandering around on his horse over his dead wife. Sound familiar. Except that the Red Headed Stranger was the one who killed his wife (& her lover) in a fit of jealousy. Was it originally planned that Monk be more like the REd Headed Stranger in personality?
- I believe in this episode they were just making a comparison of losing a loved one, not impliciting Monk had killed her. Well, knowing Monk since the fisrt season, I could not even think on him killing his reason to live.
b. What in the hell did Monk do to get booted off the police force? Whatever he did must have been very serious, possibly violent or even psychotic. He had showed violent tendacies in Mr. Monk Is On The Air.
- He had OCD when he joined the Police, he married Trudy,his one and only love, and he was quite well handling his disorder that appears to be not so strong. When Trudy died, he twisted, he spent 3 years locked in his house, and his disorder increased 100% more. Thatīs why they " booted off" him, thatīs why he still wants to rejoin the force again. He blocked somehow his habilities and cannot figure out what happened to Trudy, it is a big and hurting issue to him, but he is slowly working on it.
c. Monk Blacks Out when he gets nervous. Could this have been an indication that he had killed Trudy & had suppressed the memory of it?
- I do not believe, sorry. He had dissociative episodes, but nothing in a violent way. By the contrary, it was in a very funny way!!
He was mad at the Radio Station, and I would be mad as well if it was with me. The authors just make Monk react like a normal man who was pissed off by some stupid and heartless moron.
d. Monk's darker side is referred to in past episodes. I believe he is referred to as a 'Prince of Darkness' in "Mr. Monk Gets Cabin Fever". I could be wrong.
- In this episode, Natalie was beggining working with Monk, she was discovering him. She said that, I believe, because she wasnīt used to be involved in so many murders and bad situations, she wasnīt used to deal with "Monk Karma" (itīa gift....and a curse). She was just joking around because of the bad situation the three of them were in ( Leland, Monk and Natalie stuck in a car, at Lelandīs birthday, in a rainy night, in the middle of the woods). By the end of this episode, Natalie corrects herself, telling that Monk is a blessed man who happen to be in the right place at the right moment to heal things, to fix what is wrong, to make justice.
I donīt know if I answered your questions, if I am right or if this is just my reading of Monk fictional life story. But, anyway, hereīs my thoughts!
Hugs
Mi
Let me try to answer your questions:
a. He is or was a big fan of Willie Nelson's "The Red Headed Stranger" (in the early days of the series). The album is a concept album centered around an old song titled "The Red Headed Stranger". On the album, the stranger is a former preacher who spends all of his time angry, feeling sorry for himself wandering around on his horse over his dead wife. Sound familiar. Except that the Red Headed Stranger was the one who killed his wife (& her lover) in a fit of jealousy. Was it originally planned that Monk be more like the REd Headed Stranger in personality?
- I believe in this episode they were just making a comparison of losing a loved one, not impliciting Monk had killed her. Well, knowing Monk since the fisrt season, I could not even think on him killing his reason to live.
b. What in the hell did Monk do to get booted off the police force? Whatever he did must have been very serious, possibly violent or even psychotic. He had showed violent tendacies in Mr. Monk Is On The Air.
- He had OCD when he joined the Police, he married Trudy,his one and only love, and he was quite well handling his disorder that appears to be not so strong. When Trudy died, he twisted, he spent 3 years locked in his house, and his disorder increased 100% more. Thatīs why they " booted off" him, thatīs why he still wants to rejoin the force again. He blocked somehow his habilities and cannot figure out what happened to Trudy, it is a big and hurting issue to him, but he is slowly working on it.
c. Monk Blacks Out when he gets nervous. Could this have been an indication that he had killed Trudy & had suppressed the memory of it?
- I do not believe, sorry. He had dissociative episodes, but nothing in a violent way. By the contrary, it was in a very funny way!!
He was mad at the Radio Station, and I would be mad as well if it was with me. The authors just make Monk react like a normal man who was pissed off by some stupid and heartless moron.
d. Monk's darker side is referred to in past episodes. I believe he is referred to as a 'Prince of Darkness' in "Mr. Monk Gets Cabin Fever". I could be wrong.
- In this episode, Natalie was beggining working with Monk, she was discovering him. She said that, I believe, because she wasnīt used to be involved in so many murders and bad situations, she wasnīt used to deal with "Monk Karma" (itīa gift....and a curse). She was just joking around because of the bad situation the three of them were in ( Leland, Monk and Natalie stuck in a car, at Lelandīs birthday, in a rainy night, in the middle of the woods). By the end of this episode, Natalie corrects herself, telling that Monk is a blessed man who happen to be in the right place at the right moment to heal things, to fix what is wrong, to make justice.
I donīt know if I answered your questions, if I am right or if this is just my reading of Monk fictional life story. But, anyway, hereīs my thoughts!
Hugs
Mi
This is a wonderful reply. I don't think our Monk could EVER have killed his Trudy.
QUOTE (shadowbox000 @ May 24 2008, 11:45 PM)
A Question for Andy Breckman (& other writers) for their recorded video segments inwhich viewers questions are answered.
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Not going to happen now, but I'm wondering if the show originally was supposed to be darker. In other words that he was originally Trudy's killer & had a split personality, but these ideas were disposed of when the show became suddenly popular & real life people with OCD were watching.
<a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0106563/" target="_blank">
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Not going to happen now, but I'm wondering if the show originally was supposed to be darker. In other words that he was originally Trudy's killer & had a split personality, but these ideas were disposed of when the show became suddenly popular & real life people with OCD were watching.
The idea did occur to me too, for about a minute, a long time ago, because of the black outs, all the cleaning, and because Monk's so smart, it would be hard to imagine anyone else smart enough to have him stumpted all these years. But I just really don't think that Monk could or would have killed Trudy and I don't think the writers ever intended it to be that wayfor a lot of the reasons that other posters have said.
However, I did think that it might be a really cool episode if some bad guy started trying to convince Monk that he did it, putting ideas in his head to make him doubt himself, so that while he is doubting himself, the bad guy could be commiting crimes that Monk can't concentrate on because he's so distracted with wondering, could he possibly have had anything to do with killing Trudy, could he maybe have done it himself? It would be agreat episode to introduce some new clue of information about Trudy's murder, too. But he could start thinking, maybe I'm trying to be sure there is no evidence here (his apartment) to be found, that's why I clean so much. They usually investigate the husband first for these things, was I ever really investigated or did everyone assume it couldn't have been me because they are my friends? Why was I even allowed to work on the case in the first place? (Usually they won't allow a cop to work on a case they have any personal involvment in, but one of the newspaper clippings said that Adrian couldn't find any connection between Trudy's murder and another car bombing that took place three months later). I could imagine him going to the captain and asking him about all of this, asking him to investigate Adrian, and do a very thorough job, treat him like any other suspect, I could even imagine Adrian turning himself in for suspicion of murder. And while the Captain and all the best detectives on the force are busy trying to convince Adrian he didn't do it, the bad guy could be doing something else. Because I don't imagine the captain would want to investigate Monk, I don't imagine he would believe that Adrian actually did it, and would really want to prove to Adrian that he did *not* do it, but it might be a pretty cool twist toward the end if, for a few minutes, everyone has to rethink it and they wonder, could he really have done it?
I should put this in my post on the episode ideas thread.
Hey Hello,
I think that if Monk was a drama, that would be a great finale. Probably the most unexpected and surprised one. But since this is not the case, and Monk is a cool tv show and we obviously note that after the pilot, the writers decided for a ligher way to conduct it, Iīm 95% sure that this theory is just not possible. The show would have to make a 180 degree turn. So hard after so many episodes. But I liked Liv's idea about an episode with this plot. It would be interesting, but I also think Monk would suffer too much and couldn't stand for so long without trying to finish his like. So, too dark for audience again.
I think that if Monk was a drama, that would be a great finale. Probably the most unexpected and surprised one. But since this is not the case, and Monk is a cool tv show and we obviously note that after the pilot, the writers decided for a ligher way to conduct it, Iīm 95% sure that this theory is just not possible. The show would have to make a 180 degree turn. So hard after so many episodes. But I liked Liv's idea about an episode with this plot. It would be interesting, but I also think Monk would suffer too much and couldn't stand for so long without trying to finish his like. So, too dark for audience again.
QUOTE (Liv @ May 25 2008, 10:16 AM)
The idea did occur to me too, for about a minute, a long time ago, because of the black outs, all the cleaning, and because Monk's so smart, it would be hard to imagine anyone else smart enough to have him stumpted all these years. But I just really don't think that Monk could or would have killed Trudy and I don't think the writers ever intended it to be that wayfor a lot of the reasons that other posters have said.
I think the reason he really can't figure out what happen to trudy is that well it happen to trudy. He just doesn't do well when he can not focus. It's pretty hard for him at times just to talk about her but, to actually think of her being blown to bits probaly is too much for him to deal with. I wouldn't be shocked if Stottlemeyer and natalie when they start getting closer do a good bit of the investigating instead of monk who maybe not there mentally.
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However, I did think that it might be a really cool episode if some bad guy started trying to convince Monk that he did it, putting ideas in his head to make him doubt himself, so that while he is doubting himself, the bad guy could be commiting crimes that Monk can't concentrate on because he's so distracted with wondering, could he possibly have had anything to do with killing Trudy, could he maybe have done it himself? It would be agreat episode to introduce some new clue of information about Trudy's murder, too. But he could start thinking, maybe I'm trying to be sure there is no evidence here (his apartment) to be found, that's why I clean so much. They usually investigate the husband first for these things, was I ever really investigated or did everyone assume it couldn't have been me because they are my friends? Why was I even allowed to work on the case in the first place? (Usually they won't allow a cop to work on a case they have any personal involvment in, but one of the newspaper clippings said that Adrian couldn't find any connection between Trudy's murder and another car bombing that took place three months later). I could imagine him going to the captain and asking him about all of this, asking him to investigate Adrian, and do a very thorough job, treat him like any other suspect, I could even imagine Adrian turning himself in for suspicion of murder. And while the Captain and all the best detectives on the force are busy trying to convince Adrian he didn't do it, the bad guy could be doing something else. Because I don't imagine the captain would want to investigate Monk, I don't imagine he would believe that Adrian actually did it, and would really want to prove to Adrian that he did *not* do it, but it might be a pretty cool twist toward the end if, for a few minutes, everyone has to rethink it and they wonder, could he really have done it?
I should put this in my post on the episode ideas thread.
I should put this in my post on the episode ideas thread.
That might be either real cool episode or a really bad episode. To be honest the probelm I have with that is Stottlemeyer, Randy, and Natalie if that was even brought to them probaly laugh in the person's face. Just for the facts of no motive and to be honest Monk isn't paying people off (heck he barely pays natalie) to build bombs
Plus the only bad guy who would have the guts to dare accuse adrian is Dale the whale.
QUOTE (strike14 @ May 25 2008, 11:12 PM)
I think the reason he really can't figure out what happen to trudy is that well it happen to trudy. He just doesn't do well when he can not focus. It's pretty hard for him at times just to talk about her but, to actually think of her being blown to bits probaly is too much for him to deal with. I wouldn't be shocked if Stottlemeyer and natalie when they start getting closer do a good bit of the investigating instead of monk who maybe not there mentally.
That might be either real cool episode or a really bad episode. To be honest the probelm I have with that is Stottlemeyer, Randy, and Natalie if that was even brought to them probaly laugh in the person's face. Just for the facts of no motive and to be honest Monk isn't paying people off (heck he barely pays natalie) to build bombs
Plus the only bad guy who would have the guts to dare accuse adrian is Dale the whale.
That might be either real cool episode or a really bad episode. To be honest the probelm I have with that is Stottlemeyer, Randy, and Natalie if that was even brought to them probaly laugh in the person's face. Just for the facts of no motive and to be honest Monk isn't paying people off (heck he barely pays natalie) to build bombs
Plus the only bad guy who would have the guts to dare accuse adrian is Dale the whale.
I know that my theory regarding Monk being Trudy's killer couldn't be the case now. I was just wondering if this was an original idea when the first season seemed a little darker than the season's following. It may have been hard for the creator/writers to keep going with this concept when the show started to get popular & when Monk started to become a role model & identifier for people with OCD. But I could be way, way off base. I wonder what the creator/writers would say.
I don't know if anyone here is familiar with Willie Nelson's Red Headed Stranger, but the protagonist spends a lot of time moping & obsessing about how much he loved his wife much like Monk, & the Red Headed Stranger killed his.
QUOTE (shadowbox000 @ May 26 2008, 01:53 AM)
I know that my theory regarding Monk being Trudy's killer couldn't be the case now. I was just wondering if this was an original idea when the first season seemed a little darker than the season's following. It may have been hard for the creator/writers to keep going with this concept when the show started to get popular & when Monk started to become a role model & identifier for people with OCD. But I could be way, way off base. I wonder what the creator/writers would say.
I don't know if anyone here is familiar with Willie Nelson's Red Headed Stranger, but the protagonist spends a lot of time moping & obsessing about how much he loved his wife much like Monk, & the Red Headed Stranger killed his.
I don't know if anyone here is familiar with Willie Nelson's Red Headed Stranger, but the protagonist spends a lot of time moping & obsessing about how much he loved his wife much like Monk, & the Red Headed Stranger killed his.
Me personally I don't think if I was writing a show making a show that you hope goes 7 or 8 season based around a guy who may have committed murder isn't really the ticket. Just on darkness the monk show IMO would be about maybe 2 or 3 at the most seasons. I think it needs the humor episodes to fill in the gaps.
Granted that be a great movie though as it be one heck of a plot twists and take a great actor to pull it off.
However this is just me perosnally. have no idea what the writers had in mind.
I've been following this thread, and the scary thing about is that it is utterly feasible, and Monk should have been considered as a suspect.
I obviously can't know what the original intent was. I'd like to think it wasn't the case. But if they ever wanted to do this as a major plot twist in the last episode, two things would happen:
1. Ratings would go through the roof as every major entertainment outlet covered it. It would be groundbreaking.
2. Someone would have to go to the homes of every member of this board and collect our cutlery and shoelaces -- because it wouldn't be pretty.
I would hope they wouldn't destroy the integrity of the character and the show in its final hour. I don't think they would. But I haven't been this disturbed by an idea since someone suggested Dr. K was the 'judge.'
I obviously can't know what the original intent was. I'd like to think it wasn't the case. But if they ever wanted to do this as a major plot twist in the last episode, two things would happen:
1. Ratings would go through the roof as every major entertainment outlet covered it. It would be groundbreaking.
2. Someone would have to go to the homes of every member of this board and collect our cutlery and shoelaces -- because it wouldn't be pretty.
I would hope they wouldn't destroy the integrity of the character and the show in its final hour. I don't think they would. But I haven't been this disturbed by an idea since someone suggested Dr. K was the 'judge.'
I agree that the show was a little "darker" as you say, although it didn't seem "darker" as in "morbid". Just... different. I can definitely tell that the show is "lighter" now-more jokes, funnier moments, etc than in that first episode (which I just watched last night!).
As for Adrian killing Trudy? I'm sorry but that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. I do think a show where someone makes him "think" he might have killed Trudy would be extremely interesting, but for the faithful viewers (such as us) to tune in week after week, year after year... only to be faced with this-that the "king of the crime solvers" was the one who did it in the first place. Well, that would be a complete slap in the face. That would truly make me want to toss my DVD sets in the trash! I actually saw a show like that one time where there was a big build up to the "resolution" but then it turned out to be something stupid. I can't give an exact detail. But a prime example would be the soaps. They make viewers wait forever to find out who killed whom, and then when you find out, it turns out to be a big letdown. I truly hope they don't do that with "Monk".
And my answer to why Adrian was kicked off the force? Well, I'm guessing that he was a member until Trudy's death. Afterwards, the force probably didn't think he was psychologically "fit". He's always going in for analysis and so forth and sees a therapist regularly. And from what I've seen, it takes more than one person to make a recommendation that he rejoin the force. Personally, I think he's much more interesting as a detective than as part of the police force. As we've seen before, Adrian actually solves crimes better (and faster) on his own than the police do!
Andrea
As for Adrian killing Trudy? I'm sorry but that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. I do think a show where someone makes him "think" he might have killed Trudy would be extremely interesting, but for the faithful viewers (such as us) to tune in week after week, year after year... only to be faced with this-that the "king of the crime solvers" was the one who did it in the first place. Well, that would be a complete slap in the face. That would truly make me want to toss my DVD sets in the trash! I actually saw a show like that one time where there was a big build up to the "resolution" but then it turned out to be something stupid. I can't give an exact detail. But a prime example would be the soaps. They make viewers wait forever to find out who killed whom, and then when you find out, it turns out to be a big letdown. I truly hope they don't do that with "Monk".
And my answer to why Adrian was kicked off the force? Well, I'm guessing that he was a member until Trudy's death. Afterwards, the force probably didn't think he was psychologically "fit". He's always going in for analysis and so forth and sees a therapist regularly. And from what I've seen, it takes more than one person to make a recommendation that he rejoin the force. Personally, I think he's much more interesting as a detective than as part of the police force. As we've seen before, Adrian actually solves crimes better (and faster) on his own than the police do!
Andrea
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