We are all aware that from her first appearance that Natalie was different. That her relationship with Monk -- different.

We have all followed the gradual growth in Monk and Natalie's relationship. That their relationship has evolved from boss/employee to friends.

We know Trudy gave Natalie a thumbs up.

Which leads me to a point. We all know that Monk and Sharona liplocked. Tentitive, sure. But the lip connection was there.

And Trudy never gave Sharona a thumbs up!

So in the coming season, the seventh season, this July, I am hoping we see Monk an Natalie liplock. No, not like the Monk/Sharona liplock. And no eating each other either.

I would just like to see a nice little liplock. Just a bit more than... But not overdone either... The type of liplock that makes you go, "Aaaaah."

With, of course, a happy Trudy in the background.

1.)Did Trudy give Natalie the thumbs up? I remember her giving Monk the okay to give up her unused office (and rember that "Trudy" is a figment of Monk's imaginaton.

2.) Did Monk and Sharona "tentatively liplock"? Sharona and Monk 'liplock"

I hope this does not happen. They have a professional relationship as Adrian has stated more than once. If he's going to get involved with a woman I can't see it happening until he has solved Trudy's murder, and then I think it should be someone new. Just MHO.

That 'tentative liplock' between him and Sharona? It wouldn't have happened if he wasn't working undercover and was afraid that cover would be blown. He kinda hated it, you know? Look at his reaction, LOL! I think if he'd had access to a sandblaster he would have used that on his lips too!

It depends if this is the last season or not.

If this is the last season wouldn't be shocked at all if there is a lip lock and flat out they get married or something.

If this isn't the last season which IMO as long as Trayler, Shalhoub, Levine and I forgot disher's real name come back then no.

I have a feeling people are gung-ho for M/N because he sees that he is fairly comfortable with her. I checked the M/S shipping posts from years ago and guess what: the posts are nearly identical. The only difference is that people weren't trying to get Benjy out of the way- Is he old enough to go to college? (Benjy was a young kid, so how could they?)

Anyway, I can see why shipping happens. I would love for Monk to find a nice lady like what's her name from Blackout. Full lippage and no wipe. That's "I don't mink your germs" type love.

I'm all for a Monk/Natalie kiss. I half suspect if we get one this season, it will be a non-romantic one. It was a non-romantic kiss between Adrian and Sharona in "Get's Married." I'd kind of like to see them revisit that device (undercover as man and wife) in an episode with Natalie. The advantage of such a kiss is that shippers go through the roof, but non-shippers can be happy because it doesn't fundamentally change the relationship.

I've seen them do this in shipping other couples in different shows, and they always seem to do a teasing non-romantic kiss a little before a real kiss. It almost seems like a test flare. (Let's give them this, and see how they react.) It can be used as a signal that something else is coming, and some people who never shipped before can begin to see it as a possibility. (And yes, I think that if Bitty hadn't left we would have seen a real Monk/Sharona kiss sometime in season 4)

I'm among those that don't agree that Trudy gave a thumbs up to Natalie, and I really don't want to see her standing in the background of a Monk/Natalie kiss. As Monk said in the cemetery, she's still dead and she's going to stay dead. I'd actually like to see him let go of her more completely (for Monk's healing), whether that is accomplished quickly through the solution of her murder, or slowly through the passage of time. I think it is more important that Monk knows that Trudy wanted him to let go than that she approves of Natalie.

That's interesting, because both Bitty Shram (Sharona) and Jason Gray-Stanford (Disher) were both quoted as saying that there characters were meant to get together during the series and "something" was going to happen between them in Season 3.5 (if Bitty hadn't left - but I'm not bitter.)

Ooops. The again, I've a relative newbie. What do I know?

I'll have to go back and see if I can find those statements. I'm wondering if that was going to be a temporary or permanent relationship.

I'm not sure about that either. I wish Bitty had stayed till at least the end of three and had Sharona have a bit of a better exit (at least more believable).

There were still huge M/S shippers despite that and the fact that Andy B. said that romance was not the M/S relationship.

I can imagine there were a lot of M/S shippers. I probably would have been one too, had I been here. It really seems funny that some of TPTB continually deny that something will happen, while others suggest vaguely that it might, all the while they continually plant seeds in the show that would tend to lead different shipping groups to different conclusions.

Could it be they want the shipper debate? Could it be we're playing into their hands? Could it be we're all being manipulated?

Nah....they wouldn't do that to us.

I think the some of the powers that be like mixing us up.

1. the debate shows our interest, but I doubt they say, oh, he/she/it said this no the message board, we should do it.

2. some people wouldn't believe what they are being told by writers/producers anyway. (How could they not see that these people are so in love. It's palpable. They're in love. The writers/producers are blind, but in the end 1,2,3 is going to happen because that's how I see (perceive) it.)

3. being told something definatley WILL NOT happen may cause viewers to leave. "Bitty Schram will not be on Monk anymore." Thus, the exodus of the Sharona (only) fans. That's a risk most producers don't want to take. They want as many people watching as possible. It might've been nice to have, like, no mention of any "love interest" by writing/productin staff and just keep doing that Monk episode thing and then in a late season 3 episode have Sharona telling Monk she can't come over now, cause she's busy and then have Randy walk by in the background wearing a towel around his waist. LOL. I think Andy was being kinda brave/stupid when he said that Monk/Sharona would not get together. He should have left that up in the air. Nothing should have been mentioned about Sharona/Randy either. Just let it play out. Whatever happened, happened.

I do like having shipper/nonshipper discussions, not necessarily debates anymore, only because people are passionate about it. It's personal to them, and the line can easily be crossed. I was kinda concerned after I logged off yesternight that I might have ignited ww3 by a couple of questions as to the factualness of the statements (Trudy's approval and the "Liplock" incident, only.

Yes, Trudy gave him the okay to give up her office to...? That's right, pay Natalie the money he owed her. And Trudy wanted him to do that to...? That's right, to keep her with him. And that equals...? That's right, Trudy giving Natalie the thumbs up. Trudy knew -- knows Natalie is what he needs.



Is she? Or was he on the brink of death and she met him there to ease his fear? I prefer to believe the answer to the latter question is: Yes.

But then, I'm the type who lets himself be drawn into the story, to let my imagination run free... The type who is able to see say, a Zombie rather than an actor in make-up. *shrug*



Oh yeah! The heat was so intense.

I agree. It can't happen until he has solved Trudy's murder.



Did he hate it? Or was he trying to drive away the passion by reacting the way he did?

lol...I can't believe that he felt passion for Sharona in any way. I don't see it.

he didn't just hate it he flat out dipissed it.

I mean if he could have had tub of bleach to clean out his lips he would have got it. Even Sharona was like it wasn't that bad lol.

This topic reminds me - whatever happened to Maria (Mr. Monk is up all Night)?? I thought she and Monk were cute together and the fact that she was connected to Trudy (she had her corneas) made this a possible relationship?

They wouldn't? I'm not so sure.

I just had to comment, this amuses me to no end. That is a very descriptive word/way of spelling what I think you meant to be 'despised'.

As for the liplock, again, a world of no, please.

I am not sure he will have the same reaction he had with Sharona if he was kissed by Natalie. Actually, this just happened on the last episode, didn´t it? I do not remember he even cleaning his cheek or lips the way he did when Sharona kissed him. I believe he kinda like it.
Ok, ok, he didn´t have time to clean it because of the Sheriff´s arrival.....But he could at least have some major reaction, like spitting, or even using his sleeve to clen it, or saying Natalie she had just transferred him millions of germs, or getting the wipe and cleaning himself his face in an desperate way, or whatever...he didn´t do antyhting! I believe the authors let it like this for us to have this kind of discussion, because I am sure Monk sort of liked the kissage thing!

And also, I believe the writers are allowing us to think abt the possibility of the two of them togheter. Not now, as I said before, maybe at the last season ( 10th season.... ) they can be together, Monk deserves to be loved, and they are great together. I think they are opening this gate because I really do not remember Natalie mentioning she´s going on a date on the last episodes.... Really, I believe that after the Hospital episode ( she promised not to leave him again), she never mentioned going out on a date again....opposite to Sharona, that at every eppy was trying to date some guy or was actually dating!

I hope to see this relation growing a bit next season, maybe Monk mentioning the kissage thing, maybe they having more closeness, but very soft things. I do not want the show to finish next season!!!
Maybe another liplock, to melt us, Monk/Natalie shippers on OOOOOHHHH exclamations.......

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