Can't find the first Monkisodes thread so I'm assuming it's fallen off the face of the earth and I'm starting another one. I like the notion of having one thread to discuss various episodes of Monk, rather than thirty threads addressing one episode in particular.

Just wanted to say I'm starting to see former Monk guest stars in commercials. I saw the abducted Granny in a restaurant commercial yesterday and I just saw the cheating game show host in an ad for DirectTV. "Hey! That's the guy!"

Okay, watching the Rock Concert episode again and this is driving me nuts--why did they let Chris Ketter come into the trailer? If Monk suspected him at all by this point, why, under any circumstances, did they let him into the trailer of the guy he may have killed? I'll back it up but I don't think they had a warrant--they were let in, but was there any legal reason they had to let that guy into the trailer? If so, then why wouldn't Natalie or someone follow him around and watch him like the snake he is?

I just have to say, after watching the Reunion episode today, that I am deeply troubled by a lose thread in that episode.

"The guy" (I forgot his name) but the husband guy is talking on the phone to a girlfried -- near the ice machine -- discussing his plans. I know it was probably put there to establish motive and to give some plot exposition, but that woman knew ahead of time what was going down. Until they haul her in as an accomplice, the case is not closed.

I hate loose ends.

Yes, Bubba, that was the general idea. Not that people can't start threads on individual episodes, of course--I'm not the guardian of the orb in here--but I thought it would help if at least most of them could stay in one thread. If it catches on as a concept, I'll be happy.

Oooh! I forgot about that! Good catch. By the time they nailed the husband, I forgot about that phone call completely. Oh yeah, they gotta hunt that B down, man! I think within the story, Monk and Stottlemeyer didn't know about that phone call, although I think they did know about the girlfriend. Maybe it's too difficult to prove that she knew anything so they don't routinely go after people in cases like that. I still would have liked to see them nail her though. As I recall, she was also hoping to get in on the insurance money after he killed his wife. Yeah, nail her to the wall.

Good thing the killer was an idiot in this episode too. WHY would someone use a rare guitar string to wire the porta John shut? I mean, he must have had just as much access to more generic strings -- and why a high note? Lower notes would be stronger, wouldn't they?

If stottlemeyer and disher two cops were there then they probaly wouldn't have. However let's not forget it's monk, natalie and random girl. EVen if monk said tells him not to come in it's not like he could really make him wait outside. Monk isn't a cop so he can't tell anyone to wait outside and Monk isn't about to fight the guy especially becuase if he said beat up monk the whole crowd would have attacked monk.

That's reasonable, however I think I still would have told Natalie to watch him. Everything in the trailer was potentially evidence so I wouldn't have taken my eyes off him, in case he pocketed anything. I would even say that with him already under suspicion, it was a little far fetched to let him wander around like another guy and not pay attention to him at all. I need to re-watch the episode--I have to have missed something. Yeah, Monk and Natalie have no authority over the guy. I just wouldn't have taken my eyes off him. With Stottlemeyer and Disher at the same concert, with that woman offering to show them the trailer, I'd have waited until the other two were there. I hate that guy so much--what an arrogant jerk. rofl

I watched again Secret Santa, and something didn´t fit: how could Mr Monk wears other people´s Santa´s costume, with beard and all that fake hair that at least the 'oficial hired Santa' had used right before??
I am pretty sure they did not buy a new one, they haven´t enogh time for it!

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From what I remember they pretty much kept an eye on him then Monk looked at the little girl's picture as the big clue. They may have taken an eye off of him for like a few seconds.

They might should have waited for disher and stottlemeyer but, I guess he figured he could handle it.

You're right. I still wanna clunk their heads together, though. rofl

I know, that's always bothered me too. Didn't they make a reference to that in "The Santa Clause" about how you never know where a Santa Suit has been?

But I've forgive it. I loved the scene with all the kids trying to sit on his lap -- and the little girl named Trudy. I think I need a screen cap for my Christmas Cards this year.

Mr. Monk and the private eye caught my eye on a few things.

First the bad guy is now marshall on In plain sight.

Second is it me or did anyone raise an eyebrow with the buying of a property that was 3200 a month....yet Trudy's office which Monk could barely afford and almost caused natalie to quit only cost 600 bucks a month.

Third poor mr. monk was so tortured in that episode. Everyone hated him as a private eye even one guy punched him. In the beginning the phone call to natalie was hilarious where he pretending to be a client and telling her he is being forced against his will by his assitant. The funny thing is she didn't figure it was him to after she mention his name. lol.

Fourth the poor water scene. Mr. Monk could technically swim but, not really and my new favroite expression at the end..Leap forward and a new will appear my butt. lol.

I thought the townhouse was 2200 a month, but I could be wrong -- I'm not good with numbers. But I think one of our resident SF residents (probably Teresa) remarked once that the cost of Trudy's office was unreasonable low. But then again, it didn't look like much of an office to me.

I'm kind of wondering why she paid for her own office. Had she left her job at the paper? I know she had a desk in the bullpen there. Was she free lancing?

But anyway, the thing I don't like about Private Eye is how bossy Natalie was in the episode. It is the one episode that contains more Monk/Natalie bickering than I think we've seen anywhere else. I mean, they're almost like a... a.... couple.

But Monk calling her on the phone -- it was great. Wait! Was Monk...making a joke?

All of the points and quotes that have already been talked about concerning Mr. Monk and the Private Eye are wonderful. I love the quote at the end..."Leap and a net will appear my 'butt'..." One of my favorite parts of the episode is that Natalie keeps going on about her Grandpa Neville Davenport. Hearing her continually talk about Grandpa Neville gets on Monk's nerves. Monk tells her that "not every one feels the same way about Grandpa Neville as she does, and he was thinking it might be fun to dig him up and poke him with a stick." That was just so funny to me! I also felt sorry for Monk in this episode because no one liked him as a Private I. I felt really bad when he got punched. I was laughing so hard at the end when he had to swim, which he learned to do by correspondence. He takes his "Swimming card" out of his wallet right before he jumps in and goes over the "basics". Number 1...Don't Panic...forget that!! I loved that part. Also funny to me, was that Monk would rather drowned than grab on to the toilet seat, although I knew he wouldn't touch it!!

Okay, I'm watching my usual "weekend TV sucks" Monkathon and Adrian Bumped His Head again. Why is it that every single time I watch this episode, Cora puts that damn pink corduroy shirt on him? It never fails. I keep waiting for her to give him another shirt to wear but I turn on the show and she does it again.

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But anyway, the thing I don't like about Private Eye is how bossy Natalie was in the episode. It is the one episode that contains more Monk/Natalie bickering than I think we've seen anywhere else. I mean, they're almost like a... a.... couple.

Does this mean , no more Monk/Natalie shipping? LOL If we go back, to Natalie`s first appearance on the show, and watch each episode, we will find that Natalie gets pretty mad, and frustrated with Monk. She is better now, but in the beginning, she was almost as bad as Sharona. Both ladies could really let him have it, on the other hand, both always came to his rescue.

I'm watching the black and white version of The Leper with the commentary on. Perhaps it's because I'm 45 but I love in particular the cliff-hanging scene at the end. It's such a perfectly Hitchcockian shot--above Adrian with the waves crashing below him and the doctor reaching over from on top of the cliff. I honestly can't imagine why they ever filmed that episode in color. It's so striking in black and white. I'm sure most people prefer the color version, but I don't even bother loading it anymore. Black and white all the way. Every time that camera rolls over the edge of the cliff, I expect to see Jimmy Stewart hanging on for dear life. Classic.

Uh, yeah...like that's ever going to happen. I'm in it to the end and hoping that we'll see something there. And if not, I'll write my own ending.

That was awesome, wasn't it? That episode alone with the commentary and the b/w version was well worth the price of the DVD's. I was really surprised to see it when I got my set. I hadn't heard it talked about much here.

Good for you, don`t give up your dream.

That shot's just amazing. Rarely does a camera angle or a particular shot draw my eye so much as to pull me out of the story for a moment but that one always knocks me on my butt.

I loved the black and white version of the Leper! The cliff hanging scene is Great...truly classic! That was well worth the price I paid for the dvd as well.

The office in the private eye episode was 3200. I remember becuase their client was willingly to pay 3000 for them to solve the case of her stupid hit and run lol. I remember Trudy's office was like ridiclously low at 600 which is why this episode caught me off guard some. It was kind of a werid episode becuase we hadn't seen alot of natalie bossing since season 3.



The reason why she was so bossy in season 3 was becuase even though they aren't filmed the episodes for a season are usually mapped out for the whole seasons. So since the rest of season 3 was ment for Sharona they had to adapt natalie for the parts of Sharona. Later on in season 4 they are more able to give natalie her own distinctiveness.

Is that my bad? I thought we were talking about the price of Leland's townhouse, which was given at the end of the same episode.

Some of the time we see a bossy Natalie is when she needs to, to keep Monk going, so it's hardly noticeable. Most of the time she's the cheerleader. The most noticeable exceptions IMO to this were the Grandpa Neville quoting Natalie in Private Eye, and the 'Kaching' Natalie.

I think Natalie's character has been meandering a little. Sometimes they seem to want to keep her standing off on the sidelines, feeling sympathetic for the victims, and other times they seem to want her to get more involved with the investigations. I'm curious as to what we're going to see from her in season 7.

Yeah I believe you were correct on the townhouse. I was wondering why you mention townhouse in the first post. I had forgot Leland was still looking for another house in that episode.

The show has progress where they are letting monk be the investgator and the muscle of the operation. Where Sharona might have stepped in and told someone to leave adrian alone and take a hike Natalie is more likely to sit back and hope Monk doesn't gets beat up.

Ex. Mr. Monk and the astrounaut. The guy was getting all in Adrian's face talking really bad about him and in the end nearly hit him. Sharona would have killed that guy but, Natalie was behind Adrian and didn't really get involved becuase she didn't want to get hurt either.

I think Natalie and Sharona both had their moments when they were bossy but Natalie seems more to pick her battles. I like they softened her character a bit, in contrast to Sharona's. Both actors play(ed) the roles as they are/were written but I think Natalie was a little pushy in this episode as well. It wasn't a condescending "you're stupid" kind of bossy but a kind of bossy like people do when they think they're helping you do something for your own good. I find that annoying and she never did seem to realize that Monk's ambitions aren't the same as her ambitions, and good, bad, or sideways, he just didn't want it as much as she did.

I'm watching Meets His Dad and maybe there's a minor plot hole. Why would Jack's boss tell him the 402 was a parking lot, knowing all these truckers radio back and forth and find out about routes before they get off an exit? Of course, Jack didn't even say anything about it until that guy tells him it's wide open, which is unusual to begin with. I guess I've worked in too many truckstops but they always check a route before they take a route, and they don't just take their boss's word without radioing a driver that's actually on the route they need to take. I have to think that in real life, Jack would have radioed another driver, and then told his boss his information was wrong. That would have been another conversation entirely now, since the boss needed him to take the long route and roll over the trip odometer. The boss would have to assume he had one driver who routinely didn't check traffic on trip routes as well.

In addition to checking for speed traps, this is the second most important use for the CB--checking routes for traffic, blockage, and accidents. I know they needed to make the story work, but to anyone who's a trucker, I'm sure this is seen as a soft spot in the veneer.

Another question in the same episode: once the truck continued to roll, why would the trip odometer read 5002? If it rolls over at 5000 miles, wouldn't it read 2 miles instead? It could be two separate components but if the trip odometer is computerized as it appeared, you'd think it would reset to zero since the GPS would begin recording for the next 5000 miles after it dumped it's memory for the last 5000 miles.

I don't know...Could Jack have been chosen because his own idiosyncrasies set him up as the perfect patsy? Perhaps he was the one known to do what was told without question because he needed the job.

Why would a trip odometer would reset? That simply recorded how long they have been on the road. It was separate from the tracker.

Now the tracker would record the last 5000 miles, would it not? I sincerely doubt it would then dump 5000 miles and clear itself completely. It would dump a mile at a time, as new miles are added to the end. Thus 'the guy' needed Jack to drive 5000 miles so that the former trip was completely overwritten in the tracker.

Yeah, this was the guy he wanted the partner to fire so maybe Jack just doesn't check things other drivers check. Reasonable.

They didn't show a regular trip odometer that's usually located on the dash, but rather a digital reading on the bottom of the screen that was presumably the GPS screen. That's why I was thinking it would reset. There's also only four fields so it's max reading would be 9999 anyway. IDK.



That makes the most sense. I was wondering the same thing too--like if they went over 5000 miles, there'd be no record of, say, where you were two miles ago. Oh well, I hadda ask. lol

I think I will watch the episode again, when I get the chance.

only answer I could give was Jack was a horrid driver ala why I believe in the first part of the episode they wanted to fire him.

The bigger question is if the route exactly gives them 5000 miles then it should have been over. Let's not forget Jack was pulled over by the cops in SF and then he got off course to find adrian after he left

That's a good side effect of threads like this. Well, when you're allowed to go back and forth with someone. lol. Sometimes something looks like plot hole to me and then I find out I'm looking at it wrong. Thanx strike! I boogered that one up nicely.

your welcome. yeah it's nice to get different takes on stuff.

An episode watched today mr monk gets a new shrink I found very interesting. A part that wasn't emphaized was when he met the other doctor. It was interesting in the fact before Adrian saw the guy was missing an arm at first he actually smiled and seemed willingly to give it a shot.

This seemed to be a nice insight into how adrian will adapt to having a new shrink.

I had to take my season 5 DVD set back to Wally's. The Big Game monkisode wouldn't play. They only had one other set and I have my fingers crossed. If they were from the same lot and came off the same machine, I may have another bad disk. Watching it now, with high hopes. Hopefully, "hope" doesn't hate my guts.

you are better off just flat out returning it and then ordering for amazon.

You'll probaly pay less and still get a quality product.

Wally's doesn't allow you to return open videos. So far the new set is playing, including the episode that the player kept freezing up on. I have three more disks to play--hopefully they're all okay. Fingers crossed....

oh okay..I don't usually trust them with electronic stuff so never returned anything to them.

hope it works

Really Really Dead Guy --- two comments:

1st - The digestion of the stomach contents? They're racing to get to the ME's office with 15 minutes left in that 36 hour window. I mean, it's not like nothing happens in the stomach for 36 hours, and then everything vanishes. How could Natalie recognize it 35+ hours in? That's a lot of time. But even if they had not gotten there in time, gold is an element. Even if it formed a compound in the presence of the stomach acid, it is not normally present in those quanitities in anybody's stomach. They would have been able to chemically detect gold well after that. It doesn't just disappear.

2nd - John Henry. It made me laugh and cry. Stanley Kamel was tickled with that scene. I miss Dr. K.

I watched all four disks--they're good. Phew! Yeah, I don't care for the policy on DVDs and video games, but electronics as a rule--like appliances, players, TVs--I actually trust Wally's over every other vendor. Their return policy is very open and so I don't stress over spending a lot of money and possibly getting stuck with something broken. I've returned higher ticket items with no receipt. In my case, that relaxed return policy works in their favor because I won't spend over $20 on any item anywhere else but Walmart if it's an item I can find at Walmart. I will switch brands or attempt to do without an item if I can't find it there. It's rare that I ever have to shop elsewhere on more expensive items--so Wally's has taken criticisim for their "no-risk" return policy, but there's a lot of people like me who spend their money there specifically because we know we're not going to get stuck. I'm not much of a "fly without a net" kind of a person, particularly when it comes to money. lol.

I agree. I noticed the whole 15 minutes left thing too, but didn't think of the gold thing. 36 hours really doesn't mean that in the next 15 minutes, the food disappears all at once on the clock. I always thought that was a little far fetched too. It's going to vary. They could have had another 6 hours or the food could have already been gone when they got there, even though they beat the 36 hour deadline. Good pick on the gold leaf cake. Personally, I wouldn't touch it. Couldn't deal with the idea of eating metal, just because it's supposed to be some kind of expensive, romantic desert. If it was that expensive, I never would have been able to choke it down.

I also felt the 15 minutes left in the 36 hour thing was kind of out there. Would 15 minutes really matter? Would the cake and gold and flowers be unrecognizable at that point? Yes, you would probably be able to detect traces of the gold in the system, but wouldn't the stomach already have broken most of the stuff down beyond recognizability. Yet, Natalie knew exactly what it was, she appeared to not even have to think about it. John Henry made me laugh as well. I had forgotten about that part of this episode. Stanley did a very good job singing the part. I miss you Stanley!!

Glad all 4 disks worked.

Hmm didn't know that had that policy. The only time I buy anything electronic from them is like on black friday when it's so ridiclously cheap might as well. I usually buy my DVDs either on amazon or moviestop when they are more discounted. (yes I know I am cheap like mr monk)

I think it was one of those tv moments kind of things. Basically it was to prove a pt that monk saved the day just in the nick of time. At times the writers write stuff that quite isn't realistic one of the few flaws of the show. It's one of those things that I've come accomsted too and just ignore.

There is nothing wrong with being cheap.

Really really dead guy -- an additional observation.

Am I the most unobservant person in the world? -- I never noticed this. But in that conversation on the street between Monk and Natalie, I must have been distracted by the 36 hours thing, but I never noticed before...

All the extras in the background -- and there must be over a dozen of them --are ALL talking on cell phones. Every single one of them. It's really funny, and I never saw it before.

From one cheapskate to another, we gots to do what we gots to do. rofl. Personally, if I spend more than a hundred dollars on anything, it better come with a power cord or a steering wheel.

Okay I have another question: In Private Eye, when Monk's on the boat--the boat pitches to one side and Dr. Bennett, holding some kind of harpoon gun, goes flying. Laying on the deck of the boat, he seems somewhat out of it. Before Monk goes climbing up the side, why doesn't he at least grab the "gun" and throw it overboard before he runs to the front of the boat? He hadn't resigned himself to jumping off the boat yet because he ran to the front of the boat first--he could have just jumped off when he was already at the back, while Dr. Bennett was somewhat knocked out. I have to think that even if I was panicked, it would occur to me while a person trying to shoot me was laying dazed on the deck of a boat--to reach over and grab the thing he was trying to shoot me with and either point it at him, or throw it over the side if I thought he could take it back from me again. Anyone?

Maybe he thought if he took the time to get the harpoon Dr. Bennett would come to, and he wouldn't have time to get away. Maybe he knew he would have to jump off the boat, he wanted Dr. Bennett to chase him around the boat, so that when he did jump off the boat, the boat would be some distance away from him by the time Dr. Bennett realized he had jumped off there would be nothing Dr. Bennett could do about it except keep going. Just my thoughts...