QUOTE (Kamara @ Sep 8 2008, 02:32 PM) 
Oh my gosh... help. I can't think. What's R/O?!! I feel dumb. I got too much EO on the mind!
Sorry, I left you hanging. It's Ryan and Olivia, lol
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Sorry, I left you hanging. It's Ryan and Olivia, lol
QUOTE (Kamara @ Sep 8 2008, 04:33 PM)
Has anyone read tvguide recently? Elliot and Olivia are posing as undercover LOVERS!!! EO shippers... go insane... I know I am!!
The whole "compromising position" (in Wildlife) thing has been answered.... almost!
It's kinda hard to type right now... my hands are shaking!
From tvguide:
What's Next: Olivia (Mariska Hargity) tries to come to terms with nearly being sexually assulted during last season's undercover prison assignment. Elliot goes on a major emotional journey of his own that includes a reunion with his Marine mentor-turned-astronaut Dick Finley (James Brolin) and culminates in a volatile meeting with his long-estranged and unpredictiable mother, Bernadette (Ellen Burstyn). "We finally find out why, despite his youthful dreams, he became a cop." says executive producer Neal Baer, "and understand why he runs from emotion."
Twisted Turns: Sara Gilbert plays the troubled mother of a kid claiming abuse by his foster parents (Luke Perry and Julie Bowen); Prision Breaks Marshall Allman guests as a teen with pedophiliac impulses, and Olivia and Elliot pose as lovers to infiltrate the illicit wildlife trade. "You're going to see some crazy, juicy stuff with them in that episode," says Baer. Think compromising positions.
Bah!!!
I like jumped up and down when I read this! I won't be able to study tonight... I'll be too busy daydreamin'. ::imagines EO in compromising position::
The whole "compromising position" (in Wildlife) thing has been answered.... almost!
It's kinda hard to type right now... my hands are shaking!
From tvguide:
What's Next: Olivia (Mariska Hargity) tries to come to terms with nearly being sexually assulted during last season's undercover prison assignment. Elliot goes on a major emotional journey of his own that includes a reunion with his Marine mentor-turned-astronaut Dick Finley (James Brolin) and culminates in a volatile meeting with his long-estranged and unpredictiable mother, Bernadette (Ellen Burstyn). "We finally find out why, despite his youthful dreams, he became a cop." says executive producer Neal Baer, "and understand why he runs from emotion."
Twisted Turns: Sara Gilbert plays the troubled mother of a kid claiming abuse by his foster parents (Luke Perry and Julie Bowen); Prision Breaks Marshall Allman guests as a teen with pedophiliac impulses, and Olivia and Elliot pose as lovers to infiltrate the illicit wildlife trade. "You're going to see some crazy, juicy stuff with them in that episode," says Baer. Think compromising positions.
Bah!!!
I like jumped up and down when I read this! I won't be able to study tonight... I'll be too busy daydreamin'. ::imagines EO in compromising position::
Holy Meloni!!!!!! Thanks for the info Kamara! I officially can not wait until the 23rd!!! EO peoples its gonna happen....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think it is a clever way for TPTB to come up with a way to satisfy (to some degree) both E/K and E/O camps.
Since they are undercover, they will be pretending to be lovers and of course, they have to make it look convincing so as not to blow their covers, which will give the E/O shippers a little taste.
When the case is solved, they go back to being just partners, back to their lives, and the E/K shippers can chalk it up to just doing their job, no harm done.
What's the illicit wildlife trade?
Since they are undercover, they will be pretending to be lovers and of course, they have to make it look convincing so as not to blow their covers, which will give the E/O shippers a little taste.
When the case is solved, they go back to being just partners, back to their lives, and the E/K shippers can chalk it up to just doing their job, no harm done.
What's the illicit wildlife trade?
StrayStabler Posted Today, 06:33 PM
I think it is a clever way for TPTB to come up with a way to satisfy (to some degree) both E/K and E/O camps.
Since they are undercover, they will be pretending to be lovers and of course, they have to make it look convincing so as not to blow their covers, which will give the E/O shippers a little taste.
When the case is solved, they go back to being just partners, back to their lives, and the E/K shippers can chalk it up to just doing their job, no harm done.
You hit the nail on the head with that explanation. The only time Elliot has ever flirted with Olivia was when they were undercover is Risk. So we know he won't have a problem pretending to be interested in Olivia.
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What's the illicit wildlife trade?
Most likely they are referring to the importation of endangered animals into the US. What that has to do with an SVU case is a big question. But that hasn't stopped them in the past from going outside where they belong.
I think it is a clever way for TPTB to come up with a way to satisfy (to some degree) both E/K and E/O camps.
Since they are undercover, they will be pretending to be lovers and of course, they have to make it look convincing so as not to blow their covers, which will give the E/O shippers a little taste.
When the case is solved, they go back to being just partners, back to their lives, and the E/K shippers can chalk it up to just doing their job, no harm done.
You hit the nail on the head with that explanation. The only time Elliot has ever flirted with Olivia was when they were undercover is Risk. So we know he won't have a problem pretending to be interested in Olivia.
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What's the illicit wildlife trade?
Most likely they are referring to the importation of endangered animals into the US. What that has to do with an SVU case is a big question. But that hasn't stopped them in the past from going outside where they belong.
QUOTE (Hisgirlforevermore @ Sep 8 2008, 07:43 PM)
StrayStabler Posted Today, 06:33 PM
I think it is a clever way for TPTB to come up with a way to satisfy (to some degree) both E/K and E/O camps.
Since they are undercover, they will be pretending to be lovers and of course, they have to make it look convincing so as not to blow their covers, which will give the E/O shippers a little taste.
When the case is solved, they go back to being just partners, back to their lives, and the E/K shippers can chalk it up to just doing their job, no harm done.
You hit the nail on the head with that explanation. The only time Elliot has ever flirted with Olivia was when they were undercover is Risk. So we know he won't have a problem pretending to be interested in Olivia.
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What's the illicit wildlife trade?
Most likely they are referring to the importation of endangered animals into the US. What that has to do with an SVU case is a big question. But that hasn't stopped them in the past from going outside where they belong.
I think it is a clever way for TPTB to come up with a way to satisfy (to some degree) both E/K and E/O camps.
Since they are undercover, they will be pretending to be lovers and of course, they have to make it look convincing so as not to blow their covers, which will give the E/O shippers a little taste.
When the case is solved, they go back to being just partners, back to their lives, and the E/K shippers can chalk it up to just doing their job, no harm done.
You hit the nail on the head with that explanation. The only time Elliot has ever flirted with Olivia was when they were undercover is Risk. So we know he won't have a problem pretending to be interested in Olivia.
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What's the illicit wildlife trade?
Most likely they are referring to the importation of endangered animals into the US. What that has to do with an SVU case is a big question. But that hasn't stopped them in the past from going outside where they belong.
Elliot has flirted with Olivia before on many occasions, while they may not be in the romantic sense, flirting is flirting. You can be friends and flirt with each other.
You got that right, hisgirlforevermore. Elliot and Olivia will always be friends and partners.
DSR Posted Today, 06:47 PM
Elliot has flirted with Olivia before on many occasions, while they may not be in the romantic sense, flirting is flirting. You can be friends and flirt with each other.
Flirting is "to make playfully romantic or sexual overtures". Elliot has never made any romantic or sexual overtures to Olivia. In fact, he has gone out of his way to defuse her overtures. He is not interested in Olivia that way. Elliot knows that Olivia has a crush on him. He has gone out of his way not to lead her on.
Friends do not flirt with each other. They may kibitz, they may joke, they may make teasing remarks. But they make it clear that there is nothing inviting about it.
Elliot has flirted with Olivia before on many occasions, while they may not be in the romantic sense, flirting is flirting. You can be friends and flirt with each other.
Flirting is "to make playfully romantic or sexual overtures". Elliot has never made any romantic or sexual overtures to Olivia. In fact, he has gone out of his way to defuse her overtures. He is not interested in Olivia that way. Elliot knows that Olivia has a crush on him. He has gone out of his way not to lead her on.
Friends do not flirt with each other. They may kibitz, they may joke, they may make teasing remarks. But they make it clear that there is nothing inviting about it.
QUOTE (Hisgirlforevermore @ Sep 8 2008, 08:03 PM)
DSR Posted Today, 06:47 PM
Elliot has flirted with Olivia before on many occasions, while they may not be in the romantic sense, flirting is flirting. You can be friends and flirt with each other.
Flirting is "to make playfully romantic or sexual overtures". Elliot has never made any romantic or sexual overtures to Olivia. In fact, he has gone out of his way to defuse her overtures. He is not interested in Olivia that way. Elliot knows that Olivia has a crush on him. He has gone out of his way not to lead her on.
Friends do not flirt with each other. They may kibitz, they may joke, they may make teasing remarks. But they make it clear that there is nothing inviting about it.
Elliot has flirted with Olivia before on many occasions, while they may not be in the romantic sense, flirting is flirting. You can be friends and flirt with each other.
Flirting is "to make playfully romantic or sexual overtures". Elliot has never made any romantic or sexual overtures to Olivia. In fact, he has gone out of his way to defuse her overtures. He is not interested in Olivia that way. Elliot knows that Olivia has a crush on him. He has gone out of his way not to lead her on.
Friends do not flirt with each other. They may kibitz, they may joke, they may make teasing remarks. But they make it clear that there is nothing inviting about it.
If you ask any woman have they ever flirted with a male platonic friend, the answer will be Yes. Flirting these days is not what it was 20 years ago, lot's of women flirt with men on friendly basis, flirting doesn't mean what it used to be
Also we don't know that Elliot knows Olivia has a crush on him, there has been no proof of that, that's just your personal speculation. Seeing how Elliot is so passionate about his job, if he thought that Olivia was interested in him in a sexual way, do you think he would stay partners with her, most likely not. You don't have to want a relationship with someone to flirt with them end of story. Just like you said, so many people are lead on these days because the opposite sex flirts with them, and when they try to pursue a relationship, they get rejected.
QUOTE (DEANOLIVIAareHOT @ Sep 8 2008, 05:47 PM)
Words could never properly convey my complete and utter disgust!
ANDREA
ANDREA
Why? I can't see how anybody can really be upset with this description. They haven't said anything about Elliot and Olivia hooking up. In my opinion, both EO and EK shippers should be happy. If it were Fin and Olivia would you be equally disgusted?
QUOTE (DSR @ Sep 8 2008, 07:47 PM)
Elliot has flirted with Olivia before on many occasions, while they may not be in the romantic sense, flirting is flirting. You can be friends and flirt with each other.
QUOTE (DSR @ Sep 8 2008, 08:16 PM)
If you ask any woman have they ever flirted with a male platonic friend, the answer will be Yes. Flirting these days is not what it was 20 years ago, lot's of women flirt with men on friendly basis, flirting doesn't mean what it used to be
Also we don't know that Elliot knows Olivia has a crush on him, there has been no proof of that, that's just your personal speculation. Seeing how Elliot is so passionate about his job, if he thought that Olivia was interested in him in a sexual way, do you think he would stay partners with her, most likely not. You don't have to want a relationship with someone to flirt with them end of story. Just like you said, so many people are lead on these days because the opposite sex flirts with them, and when they try to pursue a relationship, they get rejected.
Also we don't know that Elliot knows Olivia has a crush on him, there has been no proof of that, that's just your personal speculation. Seeing how Elliot is so passionate about his job, if he thought that Olivia was interested in him in a sexual way, do you think he would stay partners with her, most likely not. You don't have to want a relationship with someone to flirt with them end of story. Just like you said, so many people are lead on these days because the opposite sex flirts with them, and when they try to pursue a relationship, they get rejected.
I agree about the flirting bit. I think Elliot and Olivia have both flirted with one another. it doesn't mean it was meant to be overtly sexual or romantic. Friends can flirt in a playful way, it happens and I don't there is anything wrong with it. social definitions of words expand and can differ from straight dictionary definitions. not everything is black and white. I don't even want to get into the idea of Olivia having a crush on Elliot and he knows about it but I don't believe that to be true. Although I suppose anyone can read that from the show just as well as others can believe that Elliot and Olivia are in love. Or I could argue that Olivia is more in tune with her feelings about Elliot while he is still in denial. Maybe he just doesn't know how to express these feelings or is afraid to. So if that's how anyone interprets the show, it's not fair to hate on EO shippers and vice versa. I will say that people's many interpretations of the Elliot/Olivia relationship is a result of sometimes ambiguous and unclear writing.
The undercover op sounds interesting. I'm surprised this kind of situation wasn't explored sooner. With season 10, I feel that tptb are trying to pack in some more exciting situations. Either way all I've heard about s10 sounds way better than season 9.
QUOTE (Kamara @ Sep 8 2008, 05:24 PM)
Why? I can't see how anybody can really be upset with this description. They haven't said anything about Elliot and Olivia hooking up. In my opinion, both EO and EK shippers should be happy. If it were Fin and Olivia would you be equally disgusted?
I do not see anything wrong with Fin and Olivia, as long as she stays away from Elliot, I am happy.
QUOTE (itsmeagain @ Sep 8 2008, 08:46 PM)
I agree about the flirting bit. I think Elliot and Olivia have both flirted with one another. it doesn't mean it was meant to be overtly sexual or romantic. Friends can flirt in a playful way, it happens and I don't there is anything wrong with it. social definitions of words expand and can differ from straight dictionary definitions. not everything is black and white. I don't even want to get into the idea of Olivia having a crush on Elliot and he knows about it but I don't believe that to be true. Although I suppose anyone can read that from the show just as well as others can believe that Elliot and Olivia are in love. So if that's how anyone interprets the show, it's not fair to hate on EO shippers and vice versa.
The undercover op sounds interesting. I'm surprised this kind of situation wasn't explored sooner. With season 10, I feel that tptb are trying to pack in some more exciting situations. Either way all I've heard about s10 sounds way better than season 9.
The undercover op sounds interesting. I'm surprised this kind of situation wasn't explored sooner. With season 10, I feel that tptb are trying to pack in some more exciting situations. Either way all I've heard about s10 sounds way better than season 9.
I agree 10000%, thanks
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"We finally find out why, despite his youthful dreams, he became a cop." says executive producer Neal Baer, "and understand why he runs from emotion."
This part is bugging me...wasn't that already confirmed in Ripped? "Kathy was pregnant, I needed the money"...mystery solved.
QUOTE (Kamara @ Sep 8 2008, 07:24 PM)
Why? I can't see how anybody can really be upset with this description. They haven't said anything about Elliot and Olivia hooking up. In my opinion, both EO and EK shippers should be happy. If it were Fin and Olivia would you be equally disgusted?
Well for starters, once you read that you were trembling with excitment with the idea of them being "lovers", even if it was for undercover. SVU knows that a good percent of the viewers want Elliot and Olivia together, maybe they are throwing a bone to make you happy by having Elliot and Olivia go undercover posing as lovers but seriously, would you be happy once their work is done and they go back to their hum-drum life?
Having Fin and Olivia be the ones doing the undercover work wouldn't be such a bad idea- they worked pretty well together in Undercover, both were convincing enough as a prisoner and guard before the basement incident.
hisgirl, welcome back- I'm happy to see you alive and posting
so i don't know if i'm the only one with this opinion or view on the eppy.
i think when they go undercover. the flirtations they do. the love they have to portray to make them look like real lovers will go deep within. and they both will finally realize that they have more feelings toward each other than just friendship. which may ignite some more sparks than there already is. and with Elliot's mother coming into play in this whole ordeal she may notice the chemistry between the 2 and talk to Elliot about it. which would lead him to finally leave Kathy. along with all the things Liv is going to be going through with the whole "undercover" job from season 9 he'll be there more and more for her. to comfort her. because that's just the way they are.
i know this all seems pretty weird or stupid to some. but this is my wishing take on all this. and the whole Fin and Liv. nope. please that's just as bad as Elliot and Kathy.
i think when they go undercover. the flirtations they do. the love they have to portray to make them look like real lovers will go deep within. and they both will finally realize that they have more feelings toward each other than just friendship. which may ignite some more sparks than there already is. and with Elliot's mother coming into play in this whole ordeal she may notice the chemistry between the 2 and talk to Elliot about it. which would lead him to finally leave Kathy. along with all the things Liv is going to be going through with the whole "undercover" job from season 9 he'll be there more and more for her. to comfort her. because that's just the way they are.
i know this all seems pretty weird or stupid to some. but this is my wishing take on all this. and the whole Fin and Liv. nope. please that's just as bad as Elliot and Kathy.
QUOTE (SVUlovesME @ Sep 8 2008, 08:54 PM)
This part is bugging me...wasn't that already confirmed in Ripped? "Kathy was pregnant, I needed the money"...mystery solved.
Agreed, I thought the same thing. It's not hard to connect the dots. I think viewers are smart enough to do that. At the same time it would be interesting to learn more about the "younger" Elliot.
QUOTE (EO_addict @ Sep 8 2008, 09:01 PM)
so i don't know if i'm the only one with this opinion or view on the eppy.
i think when they go undercover. the flirtations they do. the love they have to portray to make them look like real lovers will go deep within. and they both will finally realize that they have more feelings toward each other than just friendship. which may ignite some more sparks than there already is. and with Elliot's mother coming into play in this whole ordeal she may notice the chemistry between the 2 and talk to Elliot about it. which would lead him to finally leave Kathy. along with all the things Liv is going to be going through with the whole "undercover" job from season 9 he'll be there more and more for her. to comfort her. because that's just the way they are. i know this all seems pretty weird or stupid to some. but this is my wishing take on all this. and the whole Fin and Liv. nope. please that's just as bad as Elliot and Kathy.
i think when they go undercover. the flirtations they do. the love they have to portray to make them look like real lovers will go deep within. and they both will finally realize that they have more feelings toward each other than just friendship. which may ignite some more sparks than there already is. and with Elliot's mother coming into play in this whole ordeal she may notice the chemistry between the 2 and talk to Elliot about it. which would lead him to finally leave Kathy. along with all the things Liv is going to be going through with the whole "undercover" job from season 9 he'll be there more and more for her. to comfort her. because that's just the way they are.
i know this all seems pretty weird or stupid to some. but this is my wishing take on all this. and the whole Fin and Liv. nope. please that's just as bad as Elliot and Kathy. I definetely agree with this. I think Elliot and Olivia going undercover like that will make them realize that that is what they both want.
QUOTE (DEANOLIVIAareHOT @ Sep 8 2008, 04:47 PM)
Words could never properly convey my complete and utter disgust!
ANDREA
ANDREA
I am right there with you...
QUOTE (Hisgirlforevermore @ Sep 8 2008, 07:03 PM)
DSR Posted Today, 06:47 PM
Elliot has flirted with Olivia before on many occasions, while they may not be in the romantic sense, flirting is flirting. You can be friends and flirt with each other.
Flirting is "to make playfully romantic or sexual overtures". Elliot has never made any romantic or sexual overtures to Olivia. In fact, he has gone out of his way to defuse her overtures. He is not interested in Olivia that way. Elliot knows that Olivia has a crush on him. He has gone out of his way not to lead her on.
Friends do not flirt with each other. They may kibitz, they may joke, they may make teasing remarks. But they make it clear that there is nothing inviting about it.
Elliot has flirted with Olivia before on many occasions, while they may not be in the romantic sense, flirting is flirting. You can be friends and flirt with each other.
Flirting is "to make playfully romantic or sexual overtures". Elliot has never made any romantic or sexual overtures to Olivia. In fact, he has gone out of his way to defuse her overtures. He is not interested in Olivia that way. Elliot knows that Olivia has a crush on him. He has gone out of his way not to lead her on.
Friends do not flirt with each other. They may kibitz, they may joke, they may make teasing remarks. But they make it clear that there is nothing inviting about it.
welcome back hisgirl...I missed you ...
QUOTE (Kamara @ Sep 8 2008, 03:33 PM)
Has anyone read tvguide recently? Elliot and Olivia are posing as undercover LOVERS!!! EO shippers... go insane... I know I am!!
The whole "compromising position" (in Wildlife) thing has been answered.... almost!
It's kinda hard to type right now... my hands are shaking!
From tvguide:
What's Next: Olivia (Mariska Hargity) tries to come to terms with nearly being sexually assulted during last season's undercover prison assignment. Elliot goes on a major emotional journey of his own that includes a reunion with his Marine mentor-turned-astronaut Dick Finley (James Brolin) and culminates in a volatile meeting with his long-estranged and unpredictiable mother, Bernadette (Ellen Burstyn). "We finally find out why, despite his youthful dreams, he became a cop." says executive producer Neal Baer, "and understand why he runs from emotion."
Twisted Turns: Sara Gilbert plays the troubled mother of a kid claiming abuse by his foster parents (Luke Perry and Julie Bowen); Prision Breaks Marshall Allman guests as a teen with pedophiliac impulses, and Olivia and Elliot pose as lovers to infiltrate the illicit wildlife trade. "You're going to see some crazy, juicy stuff with them in that episode," says Baer. Think compromising positions.
Bah!!!
I like jumped up and down when I read this! I won't be able to study tonight... I'll be too busy daydreamin'. ::imagines EO in compromising position::
The whole "compromising position" (in Wildlife) thing has been answered.... almost!
It's kinda hard to type right now... my hands are shaking!
From tvguide:
What's Next: Olivia (Mariska Hargity) tries to come to terms with nearly being sexually assulted during last season's undercover prison assignment. Elliot goes on a major emotional journey of his own that includes a reunion with his Marine mentor-turned-astronaut Dick Finley (James Brolin) and culminates in a volatile meeting with his long-estranged and unpredictiable mother, Bernadette (Ellen Burstyn). "We finally find out why, despite his youthful dreams, he became a cop." says executive producer Neal Baer, "and understand why he runs from emotion."
Twisted Turns: Sara Gilbert plays the troubled mother of a kid claiming abuse by his foster parents (Luke Perry and Julie Bowen); Prision Breaks Marshall Allman guests as a teen with pedophiliac impulses, and Olivia and Elliot pose as lovers to infiltrate the illicit wildlife trade. "You're going to see some crazy, juicy stuff with them in that episode," says Baer. Think compromising positions.
Bah!!!
I like jumped up and down when I read this! I won't be able to study tonight... I'll be too busy daydreamin'. ::imagines EO in compromising position::
Thanks for the spoiler, but it seems oh so wrong. Elliot is a happily married man and I doubt there probably going to do anything. I know Neal Bear said Never say never but this is really pushing it. Its like he forgot about the E/K and D/O shippers, what about Elliot's marriage, he just got back with Kathy. I know you E/Oers want Elliot to get with Liv and for them to get married and ride away in the beautiful sunset,and make pretty babies, which is really unrealistic. So the last thing I'm going to say before you people start bashing me is this, Elliot is happily in love with Kathy, and nothing Olivia does or say can/will ever change that. Period, Im through.
QUOTE (alpharenay94 @ Sep 8 2008, 09:50 PM)
Thanks for the spoiler, but it seems oh so wrong. Elliot is a happily married man and I doubt there probably going to do anything. I know Neal Bear said Never say never but this is really pushing it. Its like he forgot about the E/K and D/O shippers, what about Elliot's marriage, he just got back with Kathy. I know you E/Oers want Elliot to get with Liv and for them to get married and ride away in the beautiful sunset,and make pretty babies, which is really unrealistic. So the last thing I'm going to say before you people start bashing me is this, Elliot is happily in love with Kathy, and nothing Olivia does or say can/will ever change that. Period, Im through.
How do you know that? The last we seen Elliot was looking for excuses not to go home.
QUOTE (8ElandLiv8 @ Sep 8 2008, 08:52 PM)
How do you know that? The last we seen Elliot was looking for excuses not to go home.
That isn't how I saw it...Elliot is like any other man. None of them like diaper duty. My sisters boyfriend even bought a case of masks for when he has to change his daughter. Elliot loves his kids. All five of them...
QUOTE (kleahey @ Sep 8 2008, 09:54 PM)
That isn't how I saw it...Elliot is like any other man. None of them like diaper duty. My sisters boyfriend even bought a case of masks for when he has to change his daughter. Elliot loves his kids. All five of them...
Of course he loves them, but he didn't want to go home. It's not like anyone could make him take over diaper duty. I just found it wierd that he didn't want to go home. he kept going out for drinks with Olivia or just staying at the precinct late.
QUOTE (alpharenay94 @ Sep 8 2008, 09:50 PM)
Thanks for the spoiler, but it seems oh so wrong. ....Elliot is happily in love with Kathy, and nothing Olivia does or say can/will ever change that. Period, Im through.
If this is true, then why do the spoilers seem oh so wrong. The only thing I'm not understanding is how people are saying that they are disgusted with the spoilers and these same people say that Elliot will never have feelings for Olivia or vice versa. What do you mean? Sorry if that sounded confusing. Maybe I'll try to rephrase this question later when my mind is better. LOL
QUOTE (Kamara @ Sep 8 2008, 08:58 PM)
If this is true, then why do the spoilers seem oh so wrong. The only thing I'm not understanding is how people are saying that they are disgusted with the spoilers and these same people say that Elliot will never have feelings for Olivia or vice versa. What do you mean? Sorry if that sounded confusing. Maybe I'll try to rephrase this question later when my mind is better. LOL
I mean its not right, thats wrong for them to do that, why couldn't it be with Fin or Munch.
itsmeagain Posted Today, 07:46 PM
I agree about the flirting bit. I think Elliot and Olivia have both flirted with one another. it doesn't mean it was meant to be overtly sexual or romantic. Friends can flirt in a playful way, it happens and I don't there is anything wrong with it. social definitions of words expand and can differ from straight dictionary definitions. not everything is black and white.
If you want include in your definition of flirting things that are not in mine, you can. But then we are comparing apples and watermelons. But by your definition, would you consider Elliot's remarks about his tattoos to Jefferies in Stocks and Bondage to be flirting? I would view that as banter in the squad.
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DSR Posted Today, 07:16 PM
Also we don't know that Elliot knows Olivia has a crush on him, there has been no proof of that, that's just your personal speculation
There is plenty of evidence that Elliot knows Olivia has a crush on him and is not interested. Two quick examples. In Scheherazade, Olivia suggests they they go get dinner and Elliot deflects it by saying they get it at the hospice. And at the end of Burned where Olivia is trying so hard to flirt with him, Elliot doesn't even sit facing her. He turns his head but blocks her with his body. He is clearly not interested in opening up to her the way she is trying to get him to.
Elliot picked up on Cassidy having a crush on Olivia as well as the fact they had slept together. I think everybody in the squad knew. If he knew that, he would pick up on Olivia's feelings about him.
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Seeing how Elliot is so passionate about his job, if he thought that Olivia was interested in him in a sexual way, do you think he would stay partners with her, most likely not.
On the contrary, Elliot has broken Olivia in as his partner and doesn't want to give up the partnership. They had worked well together. The same way he told Olivia how to let Cassidy get his crush on her because he didn't want to lose him from the squad. If Olivia gets over her crush and realizes again that Elliot loves Kathy and not her, there would be no problem with Elliot and Olivia staying partners. But he has to be careful about it so she doesn't get embarrassed that he knows. Then she'll feel she has to leave the squad like she did at the end of Fault.
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SVUlovesME Posted Today, 07:54 PM
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"We finally find out why, despite his youthful dreams, he became a cop." says executive producer Neal Baer, "and understand why he runs from emotion."
This part is bugging me...wasn't that already confirmed in Ripped? "Kathy was pregnant, I needed the money"...mystery solved.
Elliot stated in Ripped that he always wanted to be a cop. It wasn't just because he needed the money.
Every kid in the 60s wanted to be an astronaut at most point. It was the most exciting job you could imagine. I'm sure Elliot daydreamed about it after the moon landing. But the idea that Elliot really wanted to be a fighter pilot, doesn't really fit fit beyond that.
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Having Fin and Olivia be the ones doing the undercover work wouldn't be such a bad idea- they worked pretty well together in Undercover, both were convincing enough as a prisoner and guard before the basement incident.
Unless Olivia and Fin come to terms with what happened in the basement in Undercover, they are not going to be able to work together.
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8ElandLiv8 Posted Today, 08:09 PM
I definetely agree with this. I think Elliot and Olivia going undercover like that will make them realize that that is what they both want.
Elliot already knows what he wants: Kathy as the woman he loves and Olivia as his partner at work. But hopefully this will help Olivia come to realize that is what Elliot wants.
I agree about the flirting bit. I think Elliot and Olivia have both flirted with one another. it doesn't mean it was meant to be overtly sexual or romantic. Friends can flirt in a playful way, it happens and I don't there is anything wrong with it. social definitions of words expand and can differ from straight dictionary definitions. not everything is black and white.
If you want include in your definition of flirting things that are not in mine, you can. But then we are comparing apples and watermelons. But by your definition, would you consider Elliot's remarks about his tattoos to Jefferies in Stocks and Bondage to be flirting? I would view that as banter in the squad.
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DSR Posted Today, 07:16 PM
Also we don't know that Elliot knows Olivia has a crush on him, there has been no proof of that, that's just your personal speculation
There is plenty of evidence that Elliot knows Olivia has a crush on him and is not interested. Two quick examples. In Scheherazade, Olivia suggests they they go get dinner and Elliot deflects it by saying they get it at the hospice. And at the end of Burned where Olivia is trying so hard to flirt with him, Elliot doesn't even sit facing her. He turns his head but blocks her with his body. He is clearly not interested in opening up to her the way she is trying to get him to.
Elliot picked up on Cassidy having a crush on Olivia as well as the fact they had slept together. I think everybody in the squad knew. If he knew that, he would pick up on Olivia's feelings about him.
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Seeing how Elliot is so passionate about his job, if he thought that Olivia was interested in him in a sexual way, do you think he would stay partners with her, most likely not.
On the contrary, Elliot has broken Olivia in as his partner and doesn't want to give up the partnership. They had worked well together. The same way he told Olivia how to let Cassidy get his crush on her because he didn't want to lose him from the squad. If Olivia gets over her crush and realizes again that Elliot loves Kathy and not her, there would be no problem with Elliot and Olivia staying partners. But he has to be careful about it so she doesn't get embarrassed that he knows. Then she'll feel she has to leave the squad like she did at the end of Fault.
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SVUlovesME Posted Today, 07:54 PM
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"We finally find out why, despite his youthful dreams, he became a cop." says executive producer Neal Baer, "and understand why he runs from emotion."
This part is bugging me...wasn't that already confirmed in Ripped? "Kathy was pregnant, I needed the money"...mystery solved.
Elliot stated in Ripped that he always wanted to be a cop. It wasn't just because he needed the money.
Every kid in the 60s wanted to be an astronaut at most point. It was the most exciting job you could imagine. I'm sure Elliot daydreamed about it after the moon landing. But the idea that Elliot really wanted to be a fighter pilot, doesn't really fit fit beyond that.
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Having Fin and Olivia be the ones doing the undercover work wouldn't be such a bad idea- they worked pretty well together in Undercover, both were convincing enough as a prisoner and guard before the basement incident.
Unless Olivia and Fin come to terms with what happened in the basement in Undercover, they are not going to be able to work together.
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8ElandLiv8 Posted Today, 08:09 PM
I definetely agree with this. I think Elliot and Olivia going undercover like that will make them realize that that is what they both want.
Elliot already knows what he wants: Kathy as the woman he loves and Olivia as his partner at work. But hopefully this will help Olivia come to realize that is what Elliot wants.
QUOTE (8ElandLiv8 @ Sep 8 2008, 08:58 PM)
Of course he loves them, but he didn't want to go home. It's not like anyone could make him take over diaper duty. I just found it wierd that he didn't want to go home. he kept going out for drinks with Olivia or just staying at the precinct late.
He went for drinks once with Olivia after Eli was born because his friend needed him and I am sure Kathy was okay with it. There are times when the detectives have to work a shift other than 7-3 or 8-4. Just because he is there late, doesn't mean he doesn't want to go home.
QUOTE (8ElandLiv8 @ Sep 8 2008, 09:58 PM)
Of course he loves them, but he didn't want to go home. It's not like anyone could make him take over diaper duty. I just found it wierd that he didn't want to go home. he kept going out for drinks with Olivia or just staying at the precinct late.
Have you ever changed a diaper? I have many times with my cousins and on my job and let me tell you, it's my least favorite thing of all about life.
QUOTE (kleahey @ Sep 8 2008, 10:02 PM)
He went for drinks once with Olivia after Eli was born because his friend needed him and I am sure Kathy was okay with it. There are times when the detectives have to work a shift other than 7-3 or 8-4. Just because he is there late, doesn't mean he doesn't want to go home.
They also planned on going out for drink in cold. But the thing is they didn't go out for drinks hardly at all in the episodes I've seen in earlier seasons. They went twice in the last few episodes.
QUOTE (SVUlovesME @ Sep 8 2008, 10:02 PM)
Have you ever changed a diaper? I have many times with my cousins and on my job and let me tell you, it's my least favorite thing of all about life.
yes I have and its not fun, but if Elliot didn't want to he wouldn't have to.
QUOTE (SVUlovesME @ Sep 8 2008, 09:02 PM)
Have you ever changed a diaper? I have many times with my cousins and on my job and let me tell you, it's my least favorite thing of all about life.
It sucks, especially if you aren't quick with a boy...lol
QUOTE (Hisgirlforevermore @ Sep 8 2008, 07:01 PM)
Elliot already knows what he wants: Kathy as the woman he loves and Olivia as his partner at work. But hopefully this will help Olivia come to realize that is what Elliot wants.
Heey.... do you know how much I love this answer of yours?
QUOTE (8ElandLiv8 @ Sep 8 2008, 09:06 PM)
They also planned on going out for drink in cold. But the thing is they didn't go out for drinks hardly at all in the episodes I've seen in earlier seasons. They went twice in the last few episodes.
yes I have and its not fun, but if Elliot didn't want to he wouldn't have to.
yes I have and its not fun, but if Elliot didn't want to he wouldn't have to.
What makes you think that? It is his kid too...
QUOTE (kleahey @ Sep 8 2008, 10:08 PM)
What makes you think that? It is his kid too...
Yes it is but he does work all the time and is probably tired.
QUOTE (8ElandLiv8 @ Sep 8 2008, 09:09 PM)
Yes it is but he does work all the time and is probably tired.
So, just b/c Kathy may not work out of the house, doesn't mean she doesn't work too. She may work harder.
QUOTE (itsmeagain @ Sep 8 2008, 07:46 PM)
I agree about the flirting bit. I think Elliot and Olivia have both flirted with one another. it doesn't mean it was meant to be overtly sexual or romantic. Friends can flirt in a playful way, it happens and I don't there is anything wrong with it. social definitions of words expand and can differ from straight dictionary definitions. not everything is black and white. I don't even want to get into the idea of Olivia having a crush on Elliot and he knows about it but I don't believe that to be true. Although I suppose anyone can read that from the show just as well as others can believe that Elliot and Olivia are in love. Or I could argue that Olivia is more in tune with her feelings about Elliot while he is still in denial. Maybe he just doesn't know how to express these feelings or is afraid to. So if that's how anyone interprets the show, it's not fair to hate on EO shippers and vice versa. I will say that people's many interpretations of the Elliot/Olivia relationship is a result of sometimes ambiguous and unclear writing.
....Totally lost me in this post. You seem to be arguing with yourself seems like. or maybe im reading it wrong! lol
QUOTE (8ElandLiv8 @ Sep 8 2008, 10:06 PM)
yes I have and its not fun, but if Elliot didn't want to he wouldn't have to.
Kathy and Elliot could've been working in shifts when he's at home and when diaper duty comes along it's time to duck. Wish I could've done that but noooo I was working alone so I had to...
QUOTE (8ElandLiv8 @ Sep 8 2008, 07:09 PM)
Yes it is but he does work all the time and is probably tired.
Even if how tired he is, he is still willing to do a diaper change, feed the baby, you know the rest. He won't mind, because Eli's his baby.
QUOTE (SVUlovesME @ Sep 8 2008, 10:02 PM)
Have you ever changed a diaper? I have many times with my cousins and on my job and let me tell you, it's my least favorite thing of all about life.
It's not that bad, I change diapers for my nephew, and especially because Eli is most likely a breast baby, no odors. It's about responsibility. Who want to do it no one, but to make excuses and avoid it is just irresponsible. I'm talking from experience now, not from a shippers point of view. If Elliot's leaving Kathy to do all the dirty work, that won't help the marriage any. If he wants the marriage to grow he needs to go change those diapers and let Kathy have time to herself. caring for a baby all day everyday, and By yourself. Stressful, I was pulling my hair out after 15 minutes with my nephew.
While we don't know if he's being neglectful totally, That's the way it's shown so that's where my opinion is comming from.
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He went for drinks once with Olivia after Eli was born because his friend needed him and I am sure Kathy was okay with it. There are times when the detectives have to work a shift other than 7-3 or 8-4. Just because he is there late, doesn't mean he doesn't want to go home.
They have been out more than once, they went out in closet in Cold and for the "steak dinner" I hope while in the midst of all this free time Elliot is having Kathy is having her own.
QUOTE (DSR @ Sep 8 2008, 09:12 PM)
It's not that bad, I change diapers for my nephew, and especially because Eli is most likely a breast baby, no odors. It's about responsibility. Who want to do it no one, but to make excuses and avoid it is just irresponsible. I'm talking from experience now, not from a shippers point of view. If Elliot's leaving Kathy to do all the dirty work, that won't help the marriage any. If he wants the marriage to grow he needs to go change those diapers and let Kathy have time to herself. caring for a baby all day everyday, and By yourself. Stressful, I was pulling my hair out after 15 minutes with my nephew.
While we don't know if he's being neglectful totally, That's the way it's shown so that's where my opinion is comming from.
They have been out more than once, they went out in closet in Cold and for the "steak dinner" I hope while in the midst of all this free time Elliot is having Kathy is having her own.
While we don't know if he's being neglectful totally, That's the way it's shown so that's where my opinion is comming from.
They have been out more than once, they went out in closet in Cold and for the "steak dinner" I hope while in the midst of all this free time Elliot is having Kathy is having her own.
Who said he avoids it...he made a comment that is made by almost every man when it comes to changing diapers. I am sure he changes the diapers.
QUOTE (BlaZer @ Sep 8 2008, 10:12 PM)
Even if how tired he is, he is still willing to do a diaper change, feed the baby, you know the rest. He won't mind, because Eli's his baby.
Well in Authority, Elliot did say that he was up all night with the baby who was having colic.
QUOTE (Hisgirlforevermore @ Sep 8 2008, 06:43 PM)
StrayStabler Posted Today, 06:33 PM
I think it is a clever way for TPTB to come up with a way to satisfy (to some degree) both E/K and E/O camps.
Since they are undercover, they will be pretending to be lovers and of course, they have to make it look convincing so as not to blow their covers, which will give the E/O shippers a little taste.
When the case is solved, they go back to being just partners, back to their lives, and the E/K shippers can chalk it up to just doing their job, no harm done.
You hit the nail on the head with that explanation. The only time Elliot has ever flirted with Olivia was when they were undercover is Risk. So we know he won't have a problem pretending to be interested in Olivia.
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What's the illicit wildlife trade?
Most likely they are referring to the importation of endangered animals into the US. What that has to do with an SVU case is a big question. But that hasn't stopped them in the past from going outside where they belong.
I think it is a clever way for TPTB to come up with a way to satisfy (to some degree) both E/K and E/O camps.
Since they are undercover, they will be pretending to be lovers and of course, they have to make it look convincing so as not to blow their covers, which will give the E/O shippers a little taste.
When the case is solved, they go back to being just partners, back to their lives, and the E/K shippers can chalk it up to just doing their job, no harm done.
You hit the nail on the head with that explanation. The only time Elliot has ever flirted with Olivia was when they were undercover is Risk. So we know he won't have a problem pretending to be interested in Olivia.
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What's the illicit wildlife trade?
Most likely they are referring to the importation of endangered animals into the US. What that has to do with an SVU case is a big question. But that hasn't stopped them in the past from going outside where they belong.
Hisgirl! Yeah! You are back! Good to see you and I look forward to your in-depth episode analysis of season 10. Though I don't always agree w/ you on some things, I still appreciate everything you have to say b/c you can back it up. So yeah! Good times!
And "Risk" was the first thing that came to mind when reading the TV Guide spoiler, too. They've already posed as a married couple, and the only "shippy" thing I could think of for that was when Olivia called him "honey." Or "sweetie." Whatever it was. So I am thinking that the only was this "undercover lover" thing could actually be shippy is if they hug. And not an awkward hug like "Paternity," but an actual hug you might give a good friend. Or a lover. So my any hope that I could have for this episode in terms of E/O would be at a 1.5 or a 2 on a scale of 1 to 10.
QUOTE (Hisgirlforevermore @ Sep 8 2008, 10:01 PM)
itsmeagain Posted Today, 07:46 PM
I agree about the flirting bit. I think Elliot and Olivia have both flirted with one another. it doesn't mean it was meant to be overtly sexual or romantic. Friends can flirt in a playful way, it happens and I don't there is anything wrong with it. social definitions of words expand and can differ from straight dictionary definitions. not everything is black and white.
If you want include in your definition of flirting things that are not in mine, you can. But then we are comparing apples and watermelons. But by your definition, would you consider Elliot's remarks about his tattoos to Jefferies in Stocks and Bondage to be flirting? I would view that as banter in the squad.
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DSR Posted Today, 07:16 PM
Also we don't know that Elliot knows Olivia has a crush on him, there has been no proof of that, that's just your personal speculation
There is plenty of evidence that Elliot knows Olivia has a crush on him and is not interested. Two quick examples. In Scheherazade, Olivia suggests they they go get dinner and Elliot deflects it by saying they get it at the hospice. And at the end of Burned where Olivia is trying so hard to flirt with him, Elliot doesn't even sit facing her. He turns his head but blocks her with his body. He is clearly not interested in opening up to her the way she is trying to get him to.
Elliot picked up on Cassidy having a crush on Olivia as well as the fact they had slept together. I think everybody in the squad knew. If he knew that, he would pick up on Olivia's feelings about him.
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Seeing how Elliot is so passionate about his job, if he thought that Olivia was interested in him in a sexual way, do you think he would stay partners with her, most likely not.
On the contrary, Elliot has broken Olivia in as his partner and doesn't want to give up the partnership. They had worked well together. The same way he told Olivia how to let Cassidy get his crush on her because he didn't want to lose him from the squad. If Olivia gets over her crush and realizes again that Elliot loves Kathy and not her, there would be no problem with Elliot and Olivia staying partners. But he has to be careful about it so she doesn't get embarrassed that he knows. Then she'll feel she has to leave the squad like she did at the end of Fault.
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SVUlovesME Posted Today, 07:54 PM
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"We finally find out why, despite his youthful dreams, he became a cop." says executive producer Neal Baer, "and understand why he runs from emotion."
This part is bugging me...wasn't that already confirmed in Ripped? "Kathy was pregnant, I needed the money"...mystery solved.
Elliot stated in Ripped that he always wanted to be a cop. It wasn't just because he needed the money.
Every kid in the 60s wanted to be an astronaut at most point. It was the most exciting job you could imagine. I'm sure Elliot daydreamed about it after the moon landing. But the idea that Elliot really wanted to be a fighter pilot, doesn't really fit fit beyond that.
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Having Fin and Olivia be the ones doing the undercover work wouldn't be such a bad idea- they worked pretty well together in Undercover, both were convincing enough as a prisoner and guard before the basement incident.
Unless Olivia and Fin come to terms with what happened in the basement in Undercover, they are not going to be able to work together.
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8ElandLiv8 Posted Today, 08:09 PM
I definetely agree with this. I think Elliot and Olivia going undercover like that will make them realize that that is what they both want.
Elliot already knows what he wants: Kathy as the woman he loves and Olivia as his partner at work. But hopefully this will help Olivia come to realize that is what Elliot wants.
I agree about the flirting bit. I think Elliot and Olivia have both flirted with one another. it doesn't mean it was meant to be overtly sexual or romantic. Friends can flirt in a playful way, it happens and I don't there is anything wrong with it. social definitions of words expand and can differ from straight dictionary definitions. not everything is black and white.
If you want include in your definition of flirting things that are not in mine, you can. But then we are comparing apples and watermelons. But by your definition, would you consider Elliot's remarks about his tattoos to Jefferies in Stocks and Bondage to be flirting? I would view that as banter in the squad.
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DSR Posted Today, 07:16 PM
Also we don't know that Elliot knows Olivia has a crush on him, there has been no proof of that, that's just your personal speculation
There is plenty of evidence that Elliot knows Olivia has a crush on him and is not interested. Two quick examples. In Scheherazade, Olivia suggests they they go get dinner and Elliot deflects it by saying they get it at the hospice. And at the end of Burned where Olivia is trying so hard to flirt with him, Elliot doesn't even sit facing her. He turns his head but blocks her with his body. He is clearly not interested in opening up to her the way she is trying to get him to.
Elliot picked up on Cassidy having a crush on Olivia as well as the fact they had slept together. I think everybody in the squad knew. If he knew that, he would pick up on Olivia's feelings about him.
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Seeing how Elliot is so passionate about his job, if he thought that Olivia was interested in him in a sexual way, do you think he would stay partners with her, most likely not.
On the contrary, Elliot has broken Olivia in as his partner and doesn't want to give up the partnership. They had worked well together. The same way he told Olivia how to let Cassidy get his crush on her because he didn't want to lose him from the squad. If Olivia gets over her crush and realizes again that Elliot loves Kathy and not her, there would be no problem with Elliot and Olivia staying partners. But he has to be careful about it so she doesn't get embarrassed that he knows. Then she'll feel she has to leave the squad like she did at the end of Fault.
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SVUlovesME Posted Today, 07:54 PM
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"We finally find out why, despite his youthful dreams, he became a cop." says executive producer Neal Baer, "and understand why he runs from emotion."
This part is bugging me...wasn't that already confirmed in Ripped? "Kathy was pregnant, I needed the money"...mystery solved.
Elliot stated in Ripped that he always wanted to be a cop. It wasn't just because he needed the money.
Every kid in the 60s wanted to be an astronaut at most point. It was the most exciting job you could imagine. I'm sure Elliot daydreamed about it after the moon landing. But the idea that Elliot really wanted to be a fighter pilot, doesn't really fit fit beyond that.
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Having Fin and Olivia be the ones doing the undercover work wouldn't be such a bad idea- they worked pretty well together in Undercover, both were convincing enough as a prisoner and guard before the basement incident.
Unless Olivia and Fin come to terms with what happened in the basement in Undercover, they are not going to be able to work together.
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8ElandLiv8 Posted Today, 08:09 PM
I definetely agree with this. I think Elliot and Olivia going undercover like that will make them realize that that is what they both want.
Elliot already knows what he wants: Kathy as the woman he loves and Olivia as his partner at work. But hopefully this will help Olivia come to realize that is what Elliot wants.
Number one to clear things up, this board has been pretty much peaceful on the Elliot Kathy Olivia debates and we hope it stays that way. We as E/O shippers don't know what he want's and you as E/K shippers don't know what he wants, and none of us can speak for a character that is still being developed on what he does and doesn't want. Especially when none of us write for svu and the show isn't over yet. End of discussion. There is never going to be and agreement so no need to debate, your not going to change anyone's mind
2)Because Olivia want Her best friend to open up and speak to her she has a crush on him. He's all the family that she has and him withdrawing from her hurts her, just like it would any of us. Elliot has always been more closed off with his emotions, and expressing himself. I'm a girl, and when one one of my male friends is hurting and doesn't want to speak to me, I'm going to try to get him to open up. Olivia trying to repair their relationship to what it was in season one does not constitute her having a crush, and her wanting to spend time with someone who is very important in her life doesn't either. I joke around and tease my brother like that, am I in love with them nonononononononon(sorry creepy thought in my head) It just means she cares for them.
As far as Casiddy. Men know men, just like women know women. Plenty of men complain of not being able to understand women and what they want. We think different and have different emotions, just because he recognizes another male who sees interest in a woman, doesn't mean he'll know when a woman has a crush on a man.
QUOTE (kleahey @ Sep 8 2008, 10:14 PM)
Who said he avoids it...he made a comment that is made by almost every man when it comes to changing diapers. I am sure he changes the diapers.
Like I said, I'm just saying what was told to us. While I know both men and women who don't enjoy changing diapers, I have yet to see one stay late at work to avoid doing it. Or go out for drinks with their partner instead.
8ElandLiv8 post Today, 08:58 PM
I just found it wierd that he didn't want to go home. he kept going out for drinks with Olivia or just staying at the precinct late.
Elliot and Olivia went out for drinks once in Closet because Olivia dragged him to the bar because he promised to listen to her after she broke up with Kurt Moss. And he told her he could stay any longer because he needed to go home to be with Kathy and the baby. He was looking for an excuse to leave Olivia at the bar.
In Cold all Olivia said was that they were going out for drinks. You are assuming Elliot was one of the people going.
The squad went out for drinks together after work in earlier seasons. It is a normal thing to do after work before going home.
And Elliot has always worked odd hours, even when it meant he wasn't home for KAthy and the kids. Kathy has always understood that about Elliot and his work.
I just found it wierd that he didn't want to go home. he kept going out for drinks with Olivia or just staying at the precinct late.
Elliot and Olivia went out for drinks once in Closet because Olivia dragged him to the bar because he promised to listen to her after she broke up with Kurt Moss. And he told her he could stay any longer because he needed to go home to be with Kathy and the baby. He was looking for an excuse to leave Olivia at the bar.
In Cold all Olivia said was that they were going out for drinks. You are assuming Elliot was one of the people going.
The squad went out for drinks together after work in earlier seasons. It is a normal thing to do after work before going home.
And Elliot has always worked odd hours, even when it meant he wasn't home for KAthy and the kids. Kathy has always understood that about Elliot and his work.
QUOTE (alpharenay94 @ Sep 8 2008, 09:50 PM)
Thanks for the spoiler, but it seems oh so wrong. Elliot is a happily married man and I doubt there probably going to do anything. I know Neal Bear said Never say never but this is really pushing it. Its like he forgot about the E/K and D/O shippers, what about Elliot's marriage, he just got back with Kathy. I know you E/Oers want Elliot to get with Liv and for them to get married and ride away in the beautiful sunset,and make pretty babies, which is really unrealistic. So the last thing I'm going to say before you people start bashing me is this, Elliot is happily in love with Kathy, and nothing Olivia does or say can/will ever change that. Period, Im through.
Take a deep breath okay. This isn't reality it's a tv show. If this was real life no way would I agree for a man to leave his wife and hook up with his partner. But it's a show and like I told hisgirl, we don't know what's going to happen and none of us are at liberty to say for sure what Elliot wants, who he loves, and who he want's to be with. The show is not over with and anything can happen. We don't even know what's going to happen so before jumping to conclusions that will upset you, just wait to see what happens.
QUOTE (DSR @ Sep 8 2008, 09:26 PM)
Like I said, I'm just saying what was told to us. While I know both men and women who don't enjoy changing diapers, I have yet to see one stay late at work to avoid doing it. Or go out for drinks with their partner instead.
He didn't stay late to avoid changing diapers. He was working. And one drink with a friend after she dumped her boyfriend doesn't mean he doesn't want to go home.
Hey can someone tell me when Olivia started pining after Elliot? Seems I read a lot of things on this board (in a lot of threads) that Olivia will hopefully realize that what Elliot wants is Kathy, not her.
I'm not knockin' anyone, I am just wondering where the idea came from that Olivia wants Elliot. Do we really know this? I think she just wants Elliot to be happy, no matter what. I believe that Olivia can be many things, but to be the kind of woman to go after her married partner, I just don't think that is in her.
I'm not knockin' anyone, I am just wondering where the idea came from that Olivia wants Elliot. Do we really know this? I think she just wants Elliot to be happy, no matter what. I believe that Olivia can be many things, but to be the kind of woman to go after her married partner, I just don't think that is in her.
QUOTE (DSR @ Sep 8 2008, 09:23 PM)
Number one to clear things up, this board has been pretty much peaceful on the Elliot Kathy Olivia debates and we hope it stays that way. We as E/O shippers don't know what he want's and you as E/K shippers don't know what he wants, and none of us can speak for a character that is still being developed on what he does and doesn't want. Especially when none of us write for svu and the show isn't over yet. End of discussion. There is never going to be and agreement so no need to debate, your not going to change anyone's mind
With all due respect we are in the middle of an arguement of E/K/O regarding Elliot avoiding going home and changing diapers
QUOTE (kleahey @ Sep 8 2008, 10:30 PM)
He didn't stay late to avoid changing diapers. He was working. And one drink with a friend after she dumped her boyfriend doesn't mean he doesn't want to go home.
I just answered this. It was more than one drink it was several times and 2 of them just because. The comment Elliot made to lake was "Avoiding diaper duty" Not "I'm working late,"
QUOTE (SVUlovesME @ Sep 8 2008, 10:32 PM)
With all due respect we are in the middle of an arguement of E/K/O regarding Elliot avoiding going home and changing diapers
I wasn't talking about this. I was responding to hisgirl's in my quote at the bottom. The baby debate is fine with me.
QUOTE (DSR @ Sep 8 2008, 09:33 PM)
I just answered this. It was more than one drink it was several times and 2 of them just because. The comment Elliot made to lake was "Avoiding diaper duty" Not "I'm working late,"
I don't understand why people can't see that for what it was, a joke. He was working.
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