Umm... How about getting arrested because you were misunderstood?

ummm no hablo ingles? lol
i totally got that. yea of course. i understand you....yea deffinately....
but in all seriousness yea yea i'd stop before you hurt someone, like yourself really! lol

LOLOL Smart ass ....Silence.......BAHAHAHALOLOL

Thanks fer the info dawlin'.
I don't think I can wait that long.. :[


I didn't.. but now I do. :]


DO IT! I mean, no you may not. That is irresponsible. DO IT.
haha. Why couldn't we? The worst that could happen is a ton
of angry SVU fans would nag us for a few days.

I know that this is all speculation, and I really don't want to burst EO shipper bubbles, b/c I'd like to see it to...but can someone explain to me why this Dick Astronaut guy would even ask or press about why Elliot hasn't hooked up w/ Liv? Especially after Elliot says he's married?

Do you suppose that this guy would give us, the viewers, some kind of insight into who Elliot once was? I don't know about any of this. I would think though that this would be the kind of question/discussion that would result in Elliot jacking this tool in the face.

Ah well. Thanks for the spoiler (semi-spoiler?!?) anyway. Filming begins when again??

Liv is a beautiful woman, he would be crazy if he didn't look once in a while...but he is married, so its all hands off...all the time..

My guess is that he is just a jerk and Dick is projecting his behaviors and thoughts on Elliot. Hence the comment about how being married never stopped Dick and his many divorces. He doesn't regard marraige like Elliot does.

I gotta say though....if this were real life, They would have been divorced the first time around. IMO. "Fault" brought out some true colors and "Burned" would have been the end of EK. I just feel like the whole reconciliation of EK was forced. I can't imagine being seperated for two years, getting over him, moving on, and then coming back. Two years is a long time.

As a person who has witnessed a fair amount of divorce, I can't fathom how this marriage is still together except for that they needed more episodes. And that doesn't mean they have to hate each other and not talk. Several of my friends are best friends with their Ex husbands. It's sometimes weird! I just entertained a birthday party for my friends ex-husbands little boy. And they are so close that she is this kids god mother and she planned the whole party and she hangs out with the new wife. I'm like "How in the hell...?" And she was just like --"we got married too young, and found out that we were attracted to something that wasn't each other. " My other friend broke her leg and her ex-husband comes over and takes care of her and drives her to work every morning. And they aren't attracted to each other, nor is it weird. Just friends that got married and found out it wasn't for them.....7 years later.

Point is, divorce doesn't have to be a bad thing.



And this spoiler is exciting. I hope that they do tell us a little bit about Elliot's youth. He seems like he was a trouble maker and flirt.

i think it would be awkward with my ex-husband to do anything like that

and we dont necessarily know IF elliot and kathy are happy, they havent shown kathy OR eli together with elliot, i just dont see after 2 yrs of their banter, you could see the way they acted towards one another, and i think that was because of the FACT that they WERE going through a divorce, i just dont see how you can put all that behind you and move on and pretend like it didnt happen, it did and there was a reason that they did divorce, if they havent fixed or addressed that problem, than i dont think they can just move on and forgive each other and pretend that theyre a happy family, in 'annihilated' i just think that kathleen knows alot more about what they are doing than what kathy and elliot do...

Not neccessarily. Couples getting back together from the brink of divorce (even more than once) is actually not uncommon. thinking back over the years I know of at least 6 couples who reunited after months or years apart. 3 of the couples went onto have more kids (all 3 started with pregnecies). However, only 1 of the couples are still together, the other 5 are now divorced. No matter how hard you try some things will never change. If this was reality I think they may have gotten back together, but I don't believe it would have worked.

I never had a problem with Kathy and Elliot getting back together it was just the way they did it. They finally get to a point where they agree to be apart and after a tramatic case he says "I want to come home" and that was all it took? I think the whole baby thing is a cop out as well.

I think it would be interesting to see where Elliot was heading before he had to settle down. I hope they explore it a little. I always wondered if Olivia did not find out the truth abot herself if she would still be a cop.

for elliot, it must be terrible to find out youve been a cliche, i mean, hes already one with the whole highschool sweetheart thing...

Yes, but it is much more comfortable. He knows Kathy and has known her for....too many years !! Crap !! Elliot wake up !! He used to be with her, with is family, it a well-known territory and to go to new lands (....no need to precise who I think of), it is difficult. Especially when he is completely blind about his own couple.... oups... I don't wrtie on the right thread, I'm slipping to EO...Sorry I stop here. What I wanted to say is that it is not easy to realise that a couple don't work anymore, even more when the couple spent so much time together. After many years some couples are more partners in life at home than real loving couples...Understand what I mean ?

That's the big picture there. If Elliot Kathy reconciliation was set up in a different way it would have been so much better. I would have prefered them discussing getting back together, conseling, moving back in together and THEN Kathy getting pregnant again. They set it up that way for a reason, and I hope this season some questions are answered. Kathy practically begged Elliot to come home because she was pregnant. A baby doesn't mend a relashionship, it actually makes it worse. I'm not even speaking as a shipper, but from experience from relatives on the brink of a divorce, and end up having another child, now the relashionship is worse than before. Elliot even seems to avoid going home. When you really love and care for someone, you shouldn't have to make up excuses as to why you won't go home. Avoiding diaper duty is the lamest excuse ever, he doesn't want to do it so he leaves kathy at home to do it all day, that's one way to show you love someone. Kathy even tried to get Olivia to convince him to sign the papers, I just know all of this is gonna come back and hit them in the a*s this season. It's bound to happen. TPTB did this for a reason, I know it.

I completely agree !!! As it's hard for me to express my ideas in English I'm glad some people do it, Thanks downsouthrider !

How do you guys know that they did not have several meetings about getting back together? They could have been working on things, we just don't know. He asked to come back home, several months went by, but we don't know what he did in those months just like we aren't privy to what Olivia did. But later we find out she had been dating a guy all along. I just wish the writers wouldn't throw things in at random.

Yes, but the point is that we never saw any meetings betw El and Katy, and we never learned they had meetings. For Olivia we learned that she had been dating Kurt for a long time. El and Katy never revealed they talked about coming back together after they splitted up....so we are allowed to think they did not talk about it, and utmost Kathy begged for Olivia for her to ask El to sign the divorce papers... you don't do that when you think of a possibility to return to your ex.

Anyway, it is not really important, writers love to play with our minds ! Maybe we'll learn it later !

yea thats true but she only dated him for like 5 months, and he really didnt even need to be mentioned. we saw like 2.5 minutes of him and she dumped him anyway RIGHT after el found out about him!

yea kathy did do that, which was retarded, why would she go to the one person she thought Elliot would like to spend time with and felt jealous of her!? hellllo? lol
but she came to elliot begging him to "come home" because she got prego!

even when he was "back home" he questioned her if the baby was his and and that jazz.

yea and those writers ought to be slapped in the face, im tired of them talking about divorce, reconcilation and kathy coming out to be the victim in everything. that girl's gotta suck it up sometimes. really

but anyWHO....

The writers love to drop hint's about Elliot's personal life, if him and kathy were discussing getting back together the whole scen with her comming to see him wouldn't have played out like it did when she came to see him and asked him to come home, it was aukward(spelling) and elliot looked as though he was going to reject her. Even if we didn't see it, there would have at least been some mention of it. But the way the writting is going, I wouldn't be surprised if they were, TPTB loves to throw random in the moment things at us.

well the only way i know that we're gonna get some info about elliot and his family is if i see Isabel" Gillies" in the opening credits as a guest star. if i see her name, i know Kathy will be in it, and i know there is going to be some family problem cuz it always is when she is in it.

true... i never thought about it but ya, kathy got pissed at elliot the last time he talked to her, you can kind of understand why she did, but come on, answer his question and than you can both move on, which she ended up doing, but i dont believe theyve seriously moved on yet,

well said!

oh btw, you are a very good writer! i enjoy your stories!! especially post of underbelly!

thanks! im glad you liked them! i got 2 chaps of the sequel up, if you want to read them!

oh ok sweet! thanks!

Hey everyone!

I don't mean to interrupt the current discussion about the spoiler on "Lunacy." It's just that I've been thinking that if they do keep the storyline about Stabler wanting to be an astronaut as a child, then was somewhat forced to make a more practical choice to be a cop like his dad later on, it doesn't seem consistent with what they've already established in "Ripped." In that ep., he told Hendrix that he's always wanted to be a cop like his father. It sounded to me like it wasn't just because it was his only choice after his military stint. Also, on other episodes, while he concedes that he hates his job sometimes, more often than not, he loves how he's working to keep people safe, catch the bad guys, and etcetera. Now, all of sudden, he always wanted to be an astronaut?

I know it's too early to be even speculating about what might not even appear on the actual episode. I've just been wondering about it is all, and a bit too excited as well.

Carry on.

those are some good points!

I forgot about that thanks..I do remember that he always wanted to be a cop like his father, but maybe when he went into the service he found something he truly loved and never had the chance to accomplish that task..who knows...we just have to wait and see..

I can hardly wait for the fresh episodes!

Very well put!

And I totally agree with the EK reconciliation part.

Okay I was away on vacation so I'm somewhat behind on some posts...sorry to bring back previous topics but I really want to get my two cents in.

About Elliot and Kathy: in Sin, which was the episode after Dependent (Elliot said "I wanna come home"), while at the hospital with Olivia disguising as nurses, Elliot was on the phone and later told Olivia that he was talking to Kathy, cancelling their plans to go out for drinks to discuss about Elliot coming home. Now I can see what there were some time that Elliot didn't move in immediately. If he had moved in that day or that week, it would probably not worked out as well since a lot has happened in the 2 years that Elliot and Kathy had been apart. There had been some sort of growth with independence, new habits, new interests, whatever, not just between Elliot and Kathy but for the kids too. In Clock, on the stand, Mrs. Walsh said to Elliot 'you hardly see your kids' so perhaps in that fact in mind, he was taking the time to spend with his kids, together and individually, like, for example Responsible where Elliot was trying to spend some time with Kathleen, especially for the pizza lunch and then in Pretend playing poker with his kids, he asked "since when did you all become sharks" or something like that. Plus then there is time in order to be with his family while still working as a detective: we all know about that one, it's been said many times, even before the separation about Elliot hardly ever being home.

About Lunacy: well, I know Irish isn't too crazy about speculations but I don't think the EO thing is very much exciting. The way I see it is more disappointment that Elliot feels for Dick Oswald- someone who has been in many infedilities and divorces and he was someone who Elliot had looked up to as a young adult as a hero and now he sees Dick as a sleezebag, for a person who he really is.
It was already brought up about Ripped, how Elliot wanted to be a cop all his life and I have to agree with that remark- the writers are now changing their backgrounds? Ugh I hate that- it's bad enough that soaps do that but on a tv show? Please. However maybe perhaps there was a brief period where Elliot did want to be an astronaunt after having a tiff with his father to be something else other then a cop but once Kathy got pregnant, Elliot realized that he wanted to be closer to her rather then flying all over the world and space that would take months, maybe even years to come home. Perhaps he wanted to see Maureen to grow up rather then coming home to find a baby that had turned into a 5 year old and then to a 20 year old all of the sudden with barely no relationship base as father-daughter.

As for the divorce thing...isn't the new A.D.A. the one going through a divorce herself? Neal Baer said that she is so that could be the result, nothing to do with Elliot's marriage.

thats a whole lot of 2-cents im not suprised if the EO wont be big, and i probably wont be angry either, cuz they always dissapoint, oh well, move on, im sure we've gotten us to that already, but as for changeing the background for el's past intrests, we do have alot of them, im sure everyone goes through a dozen work choices or just has dreams about becoming something, those change all the time

I was reading through a lot of the posts and I couldn't help but notice that there are a lot of shipper comments. I almost thought, for a second, that I stepped into the E/O shipper thread. LOL! I think spoilers are dangerous. What if this episode never even gets on the screen? This would be a whole lot of worry and specualtion for nothing.

well, there going to start filiming here in the middle of july, and this is the only script (that we know of) that they have...so its most likley going to happen *knock on wood*

I would be very suprised if they tossed a whole episode. I think if anyone's going to worry, and they shouldn't, it's more plausible to worry over cut scenes or dialogue not about them scrapping the entire episode. Also, I think the intial excitement has waned now. No one's really discussing the episode or speculating at the moment.

That's not necessarily true. In Screwed, we found out that El was dragging his feet about returning home. When he tried to explain, Kathy cut him off, and told him that she needed him to come home for her. This is when he asked what was up, and she said that she was with child. So we have to assume that the reconciliation was on ice until Kathy found out she was pregnant. I say this because it appears, from that scene, as if they had not talked much about it since Dependant (with the exception of the drinks they were supposed to have in Sin, but El had to work late).


ANDREA

The last time Neal Baer spoke, he said that there are already 9 scripts of SVU episodes finished and from showfax.com, only one script that they have started the casting.

oh really?? ok, shows how much i know is there anyway anyone can get those and put them on here???

Also, last season there were at least 4 to 5 episodes that were scrapped because of the strike. You never really know what could happen. It does sound good though. I would love to see it.

That would be the only way that I'd see them throwing out a script, because they had to shorten the season because of the strike. I suppose in that eventuality, then it would depend on how many they have written as we speak. And then what story arcs they have planned out for this season, and what episodes are expendable and which aren't. But if this is the premiere episode, and they're casting for it on Showfax.com, I still find it somewhat unlikely, but possible. Perhaps if it hadn't been on Showfax, I would find the likelihood more substantial. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Great point, though, Classic.

Did Showfax.com give a date as to when this episode might air? I went on that site and I couldn't figure out where the information was coming from.

so does that mean those are going to be added on to this season??

Ok, I have three questions that can require just a simple yes/no that won't be too spoiling

1) Will the new A.D.A be introduced?

2) Anything about Fin and Stabler not getting along?

3) Any reference about Casey and Chester?

i have 2), i read somewhere, like an interview with neal baer, i think it was the one where they talked about stablers side and said someone was going to have a mental desease, well, fin is staying and he said that they are going to show how fin and stablers relationship is a little struggled, and that fin is still sore at stabler,

1. Yes
2. No (most likely this will turn into a "Wrath" thing...)
3. Probably nothing major.

1.) Yes, of course

2.) No, hopefully, their rift will end soon. It is hard to work with someone who doesn't get along with his/her fellow officer.

3.) Nothing so far

I know you're not really and EO shipper....But I like the way you're talking! Um and I second the motion on everythign you just said.

They were not 'scrapped'. They were never written to begin with. The writers were striking, remember?
ETA: Beaten

Showfax doesn't know. No one does for sure. That, of course depends on whether the strike happens or not, and whether or not they have any episodes in the can by then, etc. As of what we know now the episode should air in September, barring any delays from the seemingly impending strike. I think the last thing I read was that for the moment they are continuing shooting even though they've yet to reach an agreement. Also, I don't believe SVU has started yet; filming that is. Showfax had the sides because they were casting for new roles.

Do you have an account with Showfax?

Spoilers are not dangerous. Fire and drunk driver's are dangerous. If the script changes, it changes. That's why it's called a spoiler. And outside of another strike, I can't see why TPTB would can a whole episode. They might delay the episode, but they'd show it eventually.

There are many different types of dangerous. “Dangerous” is not just classified or used with what can harm you physically. Many people get invested and emotional in this show. Spoilers can either ruin it for someone or can excite someone. The best spoilers are when an episode has already been announced and people know for sure the episode is going to take place. There could be many reasons why scripts can be scratched: the story line doesn’t end up working out, technical issues, strikes, illnesses, etc. Since this episode doesn’t even have an air date or is classified as for sure going to happen, spoilers then can be considered dangerous. It’s all in how you look at it.

I think most peope know (or should know) the risk of spoilers, the earlier the spoiler the bigger the risk. Especially if it in the "Sides" stage, it is a spoliler for where production is right now, not tomorrow not September. Anyone who thinks it is too big a risk or will ruin it for them shouldn't read it or wait until the eppis are actually filmed. That is why there is a spoiler thread and warnings posted. I know it is hard to do but each individual has to take the steps to ensure their maximum enjoyment of the episodes.

If you are like me, you are greedy and impatient and want to know now now now! I truly wish I had the will power not to look but I don't.