Thanks Kaysee. Thant actually makes more sense because MH says it a life and death situation when they pose as lovers. So maybe that's where he get's hurt at

I think when he get's hurt sounding how serious it is, Olivia will call Kathy or someone else will, but no doubt she'll find out somehow like she did in paternity.

If you read the entire Wild Life spoiler from tv.com, Elliot getting hurt if first. Then he comes back to work even though the doctor told him to take a week off. Then Kathy calls Olivia after not being able to reach Elliot. Elliot doesn't want to talk to her and asks Olivia to say he's in the field.
Why? Because Elliot wants to be at work trying to catch the guys who hurt him. He doesn't want to talk to Kathy because she'll want to know he isn't home following the doctor's orders. We have see this behavior in Elliot before in Risk when he wouldn't go home before he needed to keep working on a case that he felt he had screwed up.

That's what kaysee said, except she also has access to the sides and says that it starts of that way and then they show everything leading up to that point. Kind of like execution. Why he does that though, we don't know yet and won't until the episode premiers or we get more spoilers. The spoilers on the website aren't in order so you really have to piece it together to see the order if you have access to the sides.

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But we have no idea why she is calling. But I have to be honest, it doesn't sound like she is concerned. It sounds like El is avoiding her, and she knows it.


ANDREA

As much as I like that idea, we'll have to wait and see LOL

DEANOLIVIAareHOT Posted Today, 04:50 PM
But we have no idea why she is calling. But I have to be honest, it doesn't sound like she is concerned. It sounds like El is avoiding her, and she knows it.

When Elliot was injured in Cage, Cragen called Kathy to let her know Elliot was hurt even though they were separated. In Blinded Kathy was in the hospital when Elliot was hurt. If Elliot gets hurt in Wild Life, why wouldn't she get called?

I think you got mixed up. Irisheyes is the one who said Kathy may not know Elliot is hurt.




DEANOLIVIAareHOT is talking about when Kathy calls Olivia's phone asking for Elliot.

I'll print out the sides and place them in order to see how this thing goes. It does sound like Execution where they showed Brotus fighting with Stabler and Haung and then what happened with the investigation leading up to that moment.

Anyway, one of the sides has Olivia saying exactly this regarding Kathy:
"It's Kathy. She called your line and now she's calling me. Wants to know when you'll be back"
and then Elliot tells her to tell Kathy that he's out in the field. It's from Scene 23 (SVU Squadroom)

I dunno about you but it sounds to me like a concern wife...

I will stick on this one; or wait for the eps to come and see...

DSR Posted Today, 05:03 PM
I think you got mixed up. Irisheyes is the one who said Kathy may not know Elliot is hurt.
DEANOLIVIAareHOT is talking about when Kathy calls Olivia's phone asking for Elliot.

I was talking about the call in Wild Life. DEANOLIVIAareHOT said we have no idea why Kathy is calling. But if Elliot was hurt enough to go to the hospital it is likely Kathy knows about it and that's why she's calling looking for Elliot. Hence the references to prior episodes.

But seeing as how this episode is in a big mix up , we don't know if that part is before or after he's hurt actually after we see the preview at the begining.

Like in execution at the beginning we saw the man beating the brains outta Huang, then they replayed the whole episode leading up to that point. So if this is like that Elliot will get hurt towards the end.

It sounds like a wife who's looking for her husband. It could be out of concern or a host of other reasons. If she is calling because she is concerned, Elliot could ease that by talking to her directly. Him ducking Kathy's phone calls would make her worry more. Let's say Kathy is calling because she's upset that he's back to work after being injured. why won't he call her to calm her down or to tell her to stfu? Avoidance is not the answer. Regardless he should man-up and talk to his wife or tell her he's busy, not ask Olivia to lie for him, he shouldn't bring his home situation to work. Sure I ask people to tell telemarketers etc, that I'm not home but it sounds like other issues might be going on for that to happen between a husband and wife. We will see. Funny how we're discussing this small part of the ep, I guess people want a look into the Stabler marriage.

Thanks for the spoilers everyone.

I'm so sorry to be getting out but that just cracked me up. I had this image where someones talking all politically like, and then all of a sudden say STFU. Sorry again, but that was too funny. I agree with what you said though.

Yep...some people want their marriage to break up so he could be with Olivia...I don't want that to happen so I defend him in another way.

Think of this as a courtesy post regarding the sides since I do want to point something out: with Showfax I (as well as kaysee and Prot4 (sorry don't know how to spell the whole name!)) don't have access to ALL the pages, just those that are available on casting. Not all pages are in the script unless it's for a scene that happens to be there but then the next page won't have anything to it. Which I think is a good thing because then I don't want to get too spoiled over the show.

Another thing I want to mention is that these sides change a great deal. Usually on Showfax it's the first/second drafts of the script and I know from being in a TV production and journalism class (granted this was in high school...been 10 years since!) and also I remember watching a documentary on Bravo where they showed how the filming happens- it was about Everybody Loves Raymond and between takes even filming the cast and crew would change a line to make the scene work.
For example in Trials- the scene between the tourist couple was longer in the sides but on tv you got a good near-ending "help!" call for a bus to take them to the airport and Christopher's line "What's the deal" was not in the side that I got. Also there was a scene that was mentioned here in the thread a while ago about Olivia staring at the pot of coffee and Munch getting her attention and Elliot coming down the stairs commenting on how Olivia switched to herbal tea before discussing about her blind date which she canceled. The canceling of the date remained but the scenerio changed from SVU squadroom to the hospital elevator with just her and Stabler.

I just want to give you all readers a headsup- expect lots of scenes to change around or not be around- we've experienced this before, like the Bunny Perv. These things change right up to the last minute so don't always have your heart set on a certain scene.

SVU will be on another hour and 10 minutes!

LOL, I couldn't think of another way to put it at the time.

Wild life sounds really bizarre from what was shared with us. It's difficult to seriously picture a monkey in a basketball. I'll need to get a visual. I should read up on wild life trade so the idea of the episode won't sound so crazy to me.

Maybe it's just me but the spoilers for Wild Life really confuzzle me...

LoL, it's not just you. I didn't even read them all, just skimmed through the posts because I was getting mixed up about the plot.

Ok, phew. lol I thought it was working in two stores, going to class, and then having to run back to lock up store number 1 after class and that I was just tired.

It just....makes no sense to me, and I'm not liking it so far. :-/

Here is an update from ITPROF4U from TV:COM on WILD LIFE. It gives a little more insight on Elliot's undercover gig.

There is a new side up for a bit role, but it gives a little more insight to Elliot's undercover gig. He shows up at Bushido's as a Customs Agent "Mike". Bushido admits at this time that one of his tigers went after Natalie and that she was screaming so bad that he had to shoot her. When El asks what happened to the tiger, he then says "tasty bugger, isn't he" just as Elliot takes a bite of "steak". He plays it off though.

There is an interesting part here too where Bushido talks about smuggling with pretty girls that people only think they would like to see them naked and don't worry about what they may be hiding. He has the girl take off her shirt and she is just there in her bra with some turtle eggs strapped to her. Maybe, Liv poses as "Mikes" girlfriend who volunteers to smuggle something, something goes wrong and Bushido wants Olivia to take off her shirt to prove she has the goods and things heat up. It's pretty clear Bushido has no problems killing people. If he asked her to do it, it would be pretty life or death.

I don't know...think I'm grasping at straws now...LOL

Oh my God. I thought this was so funny. I'd be so embarrassed for Olivia if that is how this compromising position w/ Elloit goes down. At first I thought the "c.p. (compromising position)" was just going to be them having to hold hands, but now I have this vision of her standing in front of Elliot w/ turtle eggs strapped to her chest (think Bedrock style!)! What?!?!?!?!

Hahahaha! I can't stand Neal Baer!

imo the whole premise sounds absurd (turtle eggs on naked women, basketball monkeys, tigers), but I can't wait to see the ep so I can make sense of everything.

Oh that just made me want to throw up...
and yet I'm not a vegetarian but I don't like animal cruelty. I'm funny and strange that way. I guess as long as I don't have to see it then all is well. I remember, I think it was from Peta or something like that if those slaughter houses have glasses to see through, everybody would be a vegetarian.

My thoughts exactly!

I just saw pics of what looks to be a Fin/Liv eppy (filming began 9/30). It's being directed by Eriq LaSalle, and if "Burned" was any indication of what Eric has in store, I can't wait! He did a fabulous job with Burned.

Check out "MH.org".. Of course, I have no clue of how to post anything.


ANDREA

I saw those pics too. I'm pretty sure that episode is "PTSD."

Yep I'm still confuzzled. This episode makes NO sense.

Keep your chin up Buggie, I'm sure once this episode airs it would flow easier to understand

http://www.hollywoodoutbreak.com/?p=1737 Chris Meloni interview

it wont let me watch the vid, can someone tell me what he says....

OH! I KNOW he talks about the "GIANT CHANGE IN DYNAMIC" for him and kathy, and how Olivia will be in those mixes...

I listened to it and this is what he said....


You as a person have to evolve and grow and so I think someone who has such a difficult job as Elliot Stabler does, it’s going to be a good recipe to always be exploring the shifting dynamics. A teenage girl, what are the trials and tribulations of a teenage girl. Maybe one who has medical problems or addiction problems. A son who can’t control himself in whatever shape or form. The changing dynamic of the relationship with my wife and always in the mix will be detective Benson and what our dynamic is and what our shift is.

Hey everyone! It looks like there were some changes made to a past spoiler. This is posted by spunkettt on tv.com:

This was posted by ITPROF4U

They revised the Wild Life night club scene somewhat..guess they thought Elliot commenting on "not getting any" was not the way to go. Now it's Fin who makes the comment.

Elliot: It's 7am don't these ladies ever sleep?

Fin: Probably more than you do. Bet they get more than you too.

It doesn't say how Elliot reacts to the comment.

Also the description of the night club changed it's now:

Fin and Stabler enter to find two gorgeous half-naked women in slinky black party dresses melding into each other under smooth house music on an empty dance floor.....

Oh, and um, to those of you who are members on that site, can you please tell those who share spoilers like ITPROF4U, spunkett, and others a big thank you from all of us? Thanks!

thanks! i sure hope they end up together...

Okay, I printed out Wild Life and put the pages in order to try to understand it better...

The beginning scene was after Elliot got shot and went to the hospital and then the episode took place before he got shot where he asked Olivia to tell Kathy that he's out in the field. Then he got shot and later came back to work instead of taking a week off on Dr.'s orders to which Olivia owes Fin money (haha I love that part) because he knows this case. This has Execution written all over it- not necessary the storyline but the time-line.

My take, after reading it, was he asking Olivia to lie to Kathy wasn't because he didn't want to talk to her; it was more that he was too wrapped up in the case to be interrupted. How many times have we ourselves have done that? Be too wrapped up in something to talk to someone else...I'm not saying that because i'm an EK shipper but because I've done that myself, talking from experience.

Dean and Olivia? You know how desperate I am to see them together as a couple



Word, Mad. Great answer! My co-worker would be asking me to tell his girlfriend he'd call later if he’s busy or in a meeting with the Big Boss.

I'm going to guess that Pinky was referring to Elliot and Olivia, not Olivia and Dean
As for me, well I'm in a complete agreement with you- Olivia and Dean are THE couple!

I've done that too...

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right you are SVUlovesME!!

So despite him seeing how worried Kathy is he can't spare a minute to say "hun I'm okay but I don't have time to talk now?" and just let's her continually be worried untill she results to drastic measure(calling liv)

I may be an E/O shipper but that's a real butthead thing to do to your wife

Sometimes you can't spare a minute. And we have all done something like that from time to time. Have someone tell a loved one that you are too busy to talk right now, and you will talk to them later...

We don't know if that's the reason though. Svulovesme just said that's what she thinks. Not what the spoilers say. For all Elliot could have know something could have happened with the kids and that's why Kathy was urgently calling. I bet he could spare a minute or two than.
He's never been to busy for her calling before. Like in countdown. As busy as they we're he still talked to her for a quick second. Why not now? He didn't even tell Olivia to say he was too busy, he told her to lie to make Kathy think he was interviewing a victam or something and was unavailable at the moment. That's a big difference.
and yes we have told someone to tell someone else we're to busy to talk right now, but not to lie. Unless they're soliciters.

I'm not saying that he didn't want to talk to her because they're having problems. But if he really wanted to talk to her, he would find a way. He probably had to drive somewhere, why not call her in the car.

Do we know exactly what was said? Maybe, but that is later, isn't it?

Yes I have, but that's not what Elliot did according to the script. I just cannot defend Elliot's actions on this until I see it... right now he's looking like a real jerk ignoring his wife like that.

I can see if he simply ignored her calls on his phone or if he answered and said, "I'm busy, hon" or if he told Olivia to tell Kathy that he was busy, but that's not what happened. Kathy called Olivia's phone and Elliot persuaded Olivia to lie to her and tell him he was somewhere else. You all wouldn't have issue with your spouse if you discovered that he or she were in the same room with the person's phone you were calling and you found out later that they told that person to lie to you? Yes you would. I would! I would be furious! There's really no reason yet to defend Elliot on this. How busy could he be to tell Kathy that he needs to call her back? In the time it took to produce that story and tell Olivia to lie for him, he could have easily grabbed her phone and said that he was busy... or (again) he could have told Olivia to tell her that he was busy... which is also a jerkish thing to to... but it's better than what he did!

I have ignored calls and I have said I am busy... but the only time I have gone to the extent of lying is when somebody else called my friend's phone is when this stalkerish dude was trying to talk to me. You are just not a good friend if you go that far to getting someone else to lie... unless you have your reasons and that person did something to make you upset with them. My sister has told me to tell her (now) ex that she's not in... that's because she was upset with him.

There's another possibility... maybe Elliot was doing something risky and didn't want to "worry Kathy" as some keep saying. Huh? How would this make her less worried? If she resorts to calling Olivia then obviously the woman is worried as it is. How would lying to her make her less concerned. If I didn't want to worry someone... I would answer and reassure them that I was okay. If I wasn't really okay, but I didn't want them panicking... I would play it off like I was.

I can understand that some are extreme shippers and will try to think of anything that will make Kathy and Elliot's relationship seem void of any issues. The truth is... issues will arise in relationships. that's not giving in to EO... that's just accepting that Elliot and Kathy could have problems. This script is either displaying his crappiness as a husband or suggesting that there is a problem. I can't wait to see this episode. Maybe, just maybe I am dead wrong and there is an issue so extreme that he feels he needed to do what he did. For now, I can't think of anything that excuses what he did. If I am wrong, I definitely cannot wait to see this episode! Because that means there will be tons of action and probably a life or death situation or something...

We don't know what Elliot said or what Olivia said because none of us have seen the final script. All we are doing is speculating on what might happen and why he would have Olivia talk to Kathy. Thats it...

Nah, she's wrong, she knew I was only teasing you

What we do know from the spoilers is that he tells Olivia to tell Kathy he's out in the field, and from what ITPRO4U says the sides say it's a lie. It doesn't say that he calls her anytime later though. While that is of course subject to change that is what's in the script now. I doubt they would take that out though. They usually only take out meaningless bits to savor time. Like the idiotic easter bunny scene and the coffee scene from trials.

I agree with this 100%