This is what I'm thinking too.....

We have to remember that one of Dick Wolf's concepts for all flavors of Law and Order is that the episode has to be able to stand alone (because it makes it much more valuable for syndication). Even though it's become a series with a story arc to all of us, we have to remember that the episode has to make sense to a first time or casual viewer. They had to get the point across, without dialogue, that this is Alex's bedroom and she was/is married - because her vulnerability after Joe's death was so central to the story. If they had used her work id badge, for example, we'd know it was her bedroom but nothing about the former marriage.

Nope... Not yet.

___kerli___

man, does she give him a look there, or what? the still is deceiving, though. this look is fleeting - barely there before it's gone.
Eames - master of control - slips for just a moment. ('smile')

(this was the first still i ever made for myself.) unlike his meal with Beth, i get the sense that Eames didn't know about his dinner with the nasty lizard. and i wondered that too.
it's a damn date, isn't it? she took her hair down, they're drinking beer ... (jerk!)
i usually get all defensive and protective for Goren, but not in 'smile'.
this is from 'smile' too. Eames is unhappy. she is not going to smile.

good thing heart showed up and convinced me all they did was have dinner. i was ... concerned.
the story of the mentally ill mom - Mrs. Bordon - and her two dead children seems to get lost in there somewhere ... he's such a contradiction - shows so much sensitivity to this woman, such insensitivity towards Eames.

as odd as it is, 'rocketman' has a lot of parallel plot stuff about 'professionals who sleep together when they're really not supposed to ...'. (but in the episode it turns out everyone knows about the secret affair, and it precipitates madness and murder ... yikes!)
here's haver's cool icon from livejournal again.
but it got me to thinking ... lots of close professionals do this and still do a good job - and lots get away with it, too. i think it has come up as a subject a few times. then i just found out that even Jack McCoy was ... omg. Bobby and Eames are both pretty good liars ... if anyone could pull it off, it's them.

but,
i'm glad you brought up Eames being a 'by the book cop' and how that would effect her choice to get involved with her partner, or not? i'm curious about all things Eames related, and so i'm wondering (again!) if she really is the way we perceive her to be, or not? from where do we get this idea that she's so straight? what episodes does this stuff come up in?? (and to be absolutely clear - i am not saying she is or isn't either way. i'm asking questions. i like evidence. and i want to know what all your thoughts are! shippers??)
and what do folks think about Johnny Eames' and his 'disgrace' ... ?
(and what about Eames mom - don't we know that she had a stroke? is she okay, or is she disabled? i wonder about this stuff. does anyone else?)

Hi,
I just wanted to say I like all your pictures at the bottom of your post, especially the one of VDO in sunglasses, he looks great in them, I like his curly hair!! Very cool pictures!!

hi to you, danicharlie, and welcome to the USS RelationSHiP, but i think maybe you're on the wrong ship! the 'to ship or not to ship' thread over there (unicorn points horn across the harbour) is where you'll find the vdotinis - you should be able to smell the alcohol as you approach the vessel. oh, and if you time your arrival right, it'll be happy hour - they'll have nachos and cheesecake, too.

but feel free to stay here with us! everyone is welcome!

something else i was wondering ... what episodes do shippers think are overall the shippiest, and why?
likeit named 'lady's man' 'blind spot' and 'silencer'. - yep, i think we'd all agree on that.

i'd add 'semi-detached' and 'betrayed' to the list.

I'd add Brother's Keeper, Endgame, and FPS.

Purgatory and Vanishing Act.

But heck, I'd also add "all of season 6" Siren Call, anyone???

This is gonna be a long list . . . .

Ooooh . . . maybe we should vote? Or rank them? idk--just thinking out loud.

The Posthumous Collection.............

Oh yeh, Frame too........."you care for your partner, deeply"..................

Well he obviously does.

Tigger.. uni.. Rabeka.. i'm lonely.

___kerli___

I'd say an argument can be made both ways...the request for a new partner and the fact that her father had problems suggest she'd be by the book. On the other hand, she was in on the Tates thing and she hacked into Deakins email (every place I've worked, that would get you fired the next morning!)

I don't think she's necessarily a by the book cop as much as she's an honest one. Lord knows she's bent the rules for Bobby enough and she does want to play by the book. Let's just say she sometimes misplaces it. I thnk her father's missteps may make her cautious but she's not above turning a blind eye to out of the box issues.

Well, you're not alone here
And me too, I think your husband is probably right; they will give us an ambiguous ending. And of course me too, I'd rather a 'hella shippy' ending but we shouldn't put our hopes up on that



That he's taller thing in "Revolution" made me laugh when I first hear it but now it just annoys me!
And when he started to speak German, I was like WTF
How stupid do they think their viewers are??? I mean for crying out loud just try to make an original character not a bad photocopy of our dear sweet Bobby Goren.
No offense to the actor here!...

And exactly, like Bobby put it in "Semi-Detached" they have complementary skills.
Me too frankly, without Bobby there's really something lacking and visa versa. I mean, I wouldn't be looking forward to watching Bobby without Eames by his side. These two are wired to be together... God that was very shippy of me
B/A together or neither of them!


For me one of the worst endings is Eames or Bobby getting married to somebody else *gasps*... I would just curse myself for ever falling in love with these two! O God, I really dread that ending!!!

:
LOL
Me I cross my fingers

... O God you shippers are priceless!!!


Couldn't agree more








ROFL

I agree with heart's and MaryE's take on this. I mean we don't have irrefutable proof that Eames is a by the book cop. Well, her letter only says that she's cautious and we know what happened to her father...
And I also have an example of her not being by the book too
'Want' (season 4), where B/A used John Tagman's common enough name to get to search his apartment... When Eames and Bobby luckily found another Tagman who was a convicted felon (I think), Eames had that accomplish smile on her face,LOL: Priceless! And afterward when Carver gets pissed when he finds out what they did, we see Eames given those cheap excuses til Carver says "Don't push it detective"

Or maybe she is a by the book cop but not when dealing with Bobby because she's in love


hmm.... I think voting would be a good idea ... I think it'd help us keep our minds of things...

And yes, "Siren Call" definitely! But it's not on the top of my list. To me, the really really most shippy eps are 'Blind Spot' (because of Bobby's it could be scary you know when somebody goes away. Especially somebody you love so much) AND "Brother's Keeper" (because of Your Heart and Bobby mouthing "Idk" )... and "Lady's Man" is near by (of course)

i was working all afternoon ... i shall send you an email.



awww ... b,
good example - and MaryE's, too!
she asked for a new partner way back in the beginning ... maybe she was more 'by the book' then? because she isn't now (Tates, hacking into her boss's email INDEED!) maybe that's appealing - being 'bad'? (remembering 'yesterday' and the black mini skirt. tigger has had thoughts about this ... 'good daughters gone wild!') well, something about her partner keeps her stuck like glue, and it's not his considerateness or tact in delicate situations. 'in love' works for me.

what exactly did Johnny Eames do? worked for a city paycheque after he took pension from the NYPD? is that right - wo, some deep offense. and, he payed it back???? in canada, i can't see this being that big of a deal, even in the police force.
i remember that Frank Adair knew his name, and i have never been sure if that was a good thing or a bad thing. idk. her father's 'disgrace' sure is a sticky point for her.

voting ... aw, man! i can't pick what i want for dinner! actually, come to think of it, might be fun ... i think everyone likes the shippy episodes the best, but non-shippers don't get why they like them so much. lol! it's just a theory ...

i have been trying to envision 'satisfyingly-ambiguous endings to please all viewers' too. anyone remember how 'sex, lies and videotape' ended?
i really don't care, so long as they don't 'break up'. go to the FBI, go to Homeland Security, whatever ... go together. otherwise, my heart is completely broken, and i give up on television forever.

No! You shouldn't give up if that happens. That would just mean they're free to make their relationship public knowledge.

I just watched Endgame and yikes, there is so much shippiness beyond, "My mom wants to meet you."

Ross asking, "Is he sleeping at all?" which makes me suspect Ross knows and doesn't care. The elevator scene that harkens back to the elevator scene in TWAH. Makes ya wonder if they've had discussions about trust.

Then there are the acting like a married couple scenes....
During one of the Brady interrogations, Eames gets fed up and sort of explodes at Bobby, "You've got better places to be!" like she's got the right to tell him how to spend his non-working hours. Then she snatches up the pictures and shoves them in his binder. Did she ever even touch the binder before? He looks so stunned.
At the end, Ross asks if either of them are going to the execution and her response is, "I think we'll pass" as if she's making a decision for both of them.

That was such a great episode.

I KNOW!!!!! these are such awesome points, MaryE.
some of us were talking about this binder incident recently ... in the drawing room. i don't think she's touched his binder before. we were wondering what it all meant, and ended up with "ship", i think. lol.
-- 'stunned' is a good descriptor. why did she freak out like that? it was like she knew there was something so bad about all that for Bobby. like she wanted to get him out of there, away from Brady. (Eames the She Bear again.)
and your points about the way Ross communicates with Eames about Bobby are GAH! (sound of unicorn choking) put together in words like that ... yeah. (why would she know if he's sleeping??? since when does she answer in the plural for Bobby?????) they're a couple. the boss knows. he doesn't care.

i caught 'silver lining' today. (oh, hella shippiness!!) Eames asks him about sleeping in that one ... on their stakeout, when he pours her coffee (so cute!) 'don't you ever sleep?'

ship.

you know ive finally been catching up by watching season 8.... and its really not bad if you watch it in the right order!!! actually makes sense. ya know if i was a writer for that show - id be pretty ticked off too. not only did they screw VDO and KE over they also screwed the writers... made them look incompatent by running the eps out of order....

here's how im watching this season. (took this list from a blog that someone else had - bogoalexea - i think you had it posted once. very good blog!!)

faithfully
folie a duex
identity crisis
alpha dog
playing dead
lady's man
all in
family values

i have know seen faithfully, folie a duex, identity crisis, lady's man, all in.... cant wait till i get to family values. (i have tried not to read what yall say about it. but ive read enough to be pumped! ) gotta watch alpha dog and playing dead first tho. but its great to see bobby's hair (facial and head) be consistent for once. maybe he did that on purpose.. so wed know??? ya think??


oh and bogoalexea, always glad to be of comedic service!!! haha!!

ok im officially done watching all of season 8 ( i had seen more eps than i thought) family values and all.... no wonder they didnt show family values last (like they should have). that would have been akward. esp that last scene... having the three of them lined up in unity in the last scene and then weeks later... "gee uh about that.... .yeah we're gonna let'em go.. see we dont have enough money to keep'em. sorry 'bout that... hope you liked the show!!!" bunch of crap... i love that look that bobby and alex give each other at the end and ross doesnt catch it. b/a look at each other at EXACTLY the same time and poor ross is just standing there. its almost like theres a live wire between them and ross gets stuck in the middle. its very noticible - at least to me. so anyway im standing by my original stance that season 8 wasnt so bad IF you watch it in the right order!

I never thought of Frank Adair knowing Eames\' Dad as something negative but come to think of it... you never know! I always thought that they both crossed each other path somehow strictly straightly professional.


LOL


Exactly! Well put
I just NEED them to stay together too!!! If they both head to their separate corners my heart will definitely also be broken
I mean, they CAN\'T do that, right? That would be totally --like I like to put it-- contradicting the bond/the connection that Bobby and Eames have
Throughout these years the show have been showing it to us over over over over and over again They mustn\'t destroy it now!


I second uni on that: GREAT points MaryE!
As for in the interrogation room with Brady: PRICELESS
I actually found it funny how Bobby was just letting her possess HIS binder,lol
\"Endgame\" is definitely one of my favorite eps!




Yeah it was a very good blog. That fan (quietfireca) is so devoted to B/A. I mean we all are in our own ways but it\'s very apparent when you look at her stuff. Her CI vids are just AWESOME! And she\'s a shipper

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And btw jr, it\'s footstep... (can\'t remember the entire name) who shared the \"Recovery of Robert Goren\" link...

well i couldnt remember .... but i KNEW youd know!! hahaha!!!!! j/k.... seriously i thought it was you tho'.. hehe!!

All of these points that you have about Engame are exactly what I noticed over and over again. Ross MUST know, I am sure he does and really doesn't care....Eames being so protective of Bobby with Brady. Yeh, she just wanted Bobby out of there and away from that man. She scenced something was very wrong and was overwhelmed by wanting to protect Bobby. But the most telling thing was her speaking to Ross in terms of "WE." If Ross didn't know for sure before, he had his answer then. I think Alex let her guard down a little bit then, she wasn't thinking and any question Ross might have had about the nature of their relationship was put to rest after that scene......very cool.

Those SOBs


I KNOW!
It's totally like a wire really. I rewind that scene like crazy when I watch it That was just too cool

I've been watching season 8 GE episodes - itunes - not USA - (still too angry to be the source of income for those folks at USA) in their intended order---- thanks to helpful posters on this site for that info - and I agree these episodes "show" better this way.

I think its also due to my expectations changing

--did not expect any dialogue between GE that refers to Frank, Jo or Declan Gage, Mark Ford Brady or anything that had ever happened in the past
---did not think that the advertised dialogue between Eames and her sister would occur
---did not try to figure out what happened to Josh Snow between season 5 and 8
---did not worry about the poor editing that has Bobby with/without beard from scene to scene
--- did not expect E to be in charge when she was paired with ZN

bitter that G/E's last's season was so maligned.....

I think it could be a clue, too, that she did visit Bobby's mother. It's as if she has a better appreciation of the situation and how little time Frances may have left. Since that particular interview was going nowhere fast, I think it upset her to see Bobby wasting his time when he could have been with his mom.

Tell me about it *sigh*



Great line of thought there MaryE



Ok, I was just thinking about 'Purgatory' (again ), I love it how when Eames was calling Bobby near those files, she looked behind as if to make sure nobody sees her She didn't want to be caught doing something non-job related on the job

And I was watching a YT vid with a clip from the diner place (in 'Purgatory'). I never noticed that when Bobby was leaving, Eames was, well, clicking her nails like she does when she's thinking.... Just thought I should point that out because I just recently realized it

HAPPY FLUFF DAY, SHIPPERS.

here's a marching band playing anything but John Philip Sousa ... in honour of those of us who have sent in fluff. and letters and postcards and emails and petitions.

we have let them know how we feel.

MaryE got me yearning for 'endgame' and i made this still ... crummy quality (sorry), but sheesh he's good. i don't know about you folks, but to me? this expression is clear. it says 'love'. he has this same face on when he talks to the bartender in 'lady's man'.


ship.

jr, i keep meaning to ask: which mountains? where'd you go on vacation? and you are effing hilarious!! truly, you kill me.

to decorate the SHiP for this Friday, October 16th "Fluff Day" - and the end of the world as we know it day (not feeling all that fine over here on the left coast ... how's everyone else?) - i have selected my collection of Bobby's Distress Tell. it's not a complete collection, but i started making this collection just in case we were still not certain about how he feels about Eames ... because he does this in 'silencer' just before she comes in with Peter.


a person of interest

a person of interest

oh Nicole ... you make him so sad.

endgame

endgame

frame

lady's man

if anyone has the still from 'silencer' please add it here!!!

And Happy Fluff Day to everyone as well !!!

Putting on my method acting hat, I will let you know this: it's easy to tell exactly what Bobby's thinking because Vince is a method actor. The evidence is all over his face.

From my experience, there are 2 kinds of actors. There are those who are really good mimics, so "I'm going to deliver this line and turn towards so-and-so and raise my eyebrow" or whatever. Then there are method actors. You can tell who'd make a good method actor from your own friends. Who is the person you know (and everybody knows somebody like this) for whom every damn thing they're thinking and feeling naturally comes out on their face and in their body language? These are the folks who can't lie, because it's obvious when they're lying (since everything comes out on their faces). They may also be able to mimic, but in day to day life you can read 'em like a book. That's the person you should turn to and say, "Have you thought about taking up acting?"

VDO becomes Bobby Goren when he gets on that set and the camera starts rolling. So whatever Bobby thinks about Alex is gonna come through on VDO's face and in his body language. He's not going to be able to hide it. Now, part of the character of Robert Goren may be "I'm trying my damnedest to hide my feelings for Alex", but then that "I'm trying to hide it" aspect is going to come through too. Does that make sense?

Just wanted to validate all the shippy tells and pretty Fluff Day pictures. (Thanks, uni!)

Ship on !

I LOVE that picture of Bobby and Alex in the car, uni! He's got such an adoring (and slightly mischievous!) stare, like a split-second glimpse into his thoughts.
Which scene are you talking about from "Silencer"? I was going through the epi trying to find it and it's eluding me...haha Though I did find this one, where Bobby has his hand over his mouth at the ice skating rink for basically the whole time Peter is there - could be because he doesn't want the deaf people to read his lips, but I like to think he's subconsciously sending a distress signal for Peter to stay away!



How cute are they, keeping each other warm!

I've always loved how the caps will catch Goren and Eames standing/sitting with the exact same body language. the same tilt of the head, the same expression.

and i love this one from 'silencer', footsteps. didn't notice that he was sort-of doing it here, too. sure, maybe he doesn't want the deaf community to read his lips ... i bet that's all it is, too. (not!)
the scene i refer to is just after this, and Bobby is alone at their desks looking at Eames' empty chair, and he does this hand over his mouth thing just as Eames and Peter Lyons walk in, all happy and smiling. poor Bobby.
and heart

i totally agree! it's a significant 'tell' - the number of times the directors have set up this image - there are literally thousands of them. interestingly, in some episodes (such as 'smile') there isn't a single shippy image. i've looked.

I love that scene too! I know some people think she wasn't in touch with him during the suspension but I think they were the whole time and she got very concerned when she couldn't reach him for a couple of days. And it's so cute that she won't try calling him from her desk where they could be overheard. As somebody else said, she knew exactly where to go looking for him.

Exactly....and that Peter - the guy makes me gag!

Ah, thank you for the road map!


As I was getting this screencap, I watched the tail-end of the conversation at the rink. I noticed a few interesting things:

• As soon as Eames comes back from her phone call with Ballistics, Goren stands up and announces he's going to make a call to the DA. He addresses only Eames when he says this (and faces her directionally), not Peter. Peter even kinda looks like he feels left out, that he got the hint. From Goren's body language, it's like he can't bear being around when Eames and Peter are together being buddy-buddy. Even the conversation between Bobby and Peter before Eames comes back was a little...what's the word...terse? I dunno. Taking a page out of Tigger's book (thanks for unknowingly lending it to me! ), Bobby is in a position of power metaphorically speaking when he is standing over Peter, not on the same level. They are on the same level when Eames isn't around, but when she enters, I thought it was kinda like Bobby "claiming" her.

• - Peter and Alex get into a conversation after Goren leaves.

Alex (looking at the deaf ice skaters): Well, they made up quickly.
Peter: They kinda have to in their world. You know, it's not just about the signing...it's about the...cocoon. You wanna be all wrapped up and safe inside. Not shut out.

Eames looks very contemplative following this exchange, like she's applying what he's saying to her life, her world. Being partners in crime (literally), Goren and Eames must know that if any bad blood or something got in between their professional (and some might argue, personal ) relationship, they would have to "make up quickly" as well, seeing as others' lives are at stake if they're not at the top of their game. Peter's reference to a cocoon made me chuckle a little, being as 1.) I just watched "The Healer" today and 2.) just about everyone in that rink is bundled up like they're in a cocoon, it's so cold in there! (Maybe Goren left to get out of the cold figuratively, there was little warmth between he and Peter! )

Enter the next scene, where Bobby looks so sad without Eames Looks like he could use a cocoon! Or maybe just a hug...

I don't know if I'm out there with this, but there seem to be two different mouth covers with Bobby. There is the full out flat mouthed cover when he's stressed--like when Frank died. Then there is the fisted mouth cover which tends to happen more when he's contemplative or about to put something out there for consideration.

Oh and with those Silencer pictures in the office--anyone wanna bet he's writing Bobby Hearts Eames in his notebook?

thanks footsteps - perfect. i hope it's okay if i scoop it for my photobucket collection?
and i'm totally with you, heart - i coulda included tons of fist-on-mouth images (like the one of him with Nicole) but they aren't the same. it's the flat hand over mouth ones, like in 'frame' when he sees that it is Frank. no doubt in my mind - this means 'Bobby is really upset'. so, Bobby is really upset when Eames is out with Peter.
hey - someone could add it as a 'tell of the heart' ... (someone other than me - i have been a 'tell hog'!)

I just love it when the ship is so active
Good stuff everyone!!!!

Thanks for the 'hand on mouth' pics uni. and footstep. thanks for the additional ones

Totally heart.; we have different versions of the 'hand on mouth' moments really.
And footstep., each time I watch 'Silencer' and I see Bobby's sad face, I feel like giving him a HUGE hug and telling him to profess his love to her already

And somebody needs to put that 'hand on mouth' thing on the 'Tells Thread' really ... Not me either because I've posted a fair amount already. Maybe one our recent members?


I'm going back to the 'by the book cop' thing again, so bare with me
I was thinking of a earlier ep "The Faithful" and we see Bobby for the first time (on screen or maybe in general...) asking Eames to do him a favor. You know bend the rules a little. And we see a reluctant Eames but she gives in anyway... interesting. I'm not saying she was in love with him back then (you never know though ) but she's one of a kind. I mean, I don't see a regular person just letting something go by like that, you know?
Anyways, I found the 'breaking the rules' scenario in 'Best Defense' funny. Bobby, Eames AND Deakins were in on it,lol.... I love it how, at the end Carver gives Eames this look while Bobby was playing 'cat vs mouse' with the bad guy (as he usually does ). She just lowers her head,LOL

God I love them

Maybe after Eames "bent the rules a little", she felt guilty about doing so, and that was maybe the beginning of her requesting a new partner.

i'm with you, b- the 'by the book cop' thing never fails to fascinate me ... (where is the proof?)
do you mean with Melanie Grasso - the birth mother of Kevin Donovan? Eames makes a comment about them not playing catch and release? then let's Bobby protect her, anyway.

i agree with you (if that's what you're suggesting) ... that it seems like maybe she changed because she could see how special Bobby is.
this is a 'growing up with cops' thing for me, because i did, and in my personal experience i know there are lots of cops who are not good cops or even very nice people. Eames will know this, too (more than most). Bobby is special.

we've touched on it before, but i don't think Eames' life has been very happy. she is tough and would reject pity, so we don't get to hear very much from her but 'praises' for her family (esp. her dad), but even then, she doesn't say much about them. i don't get that they're all that close. in 'probability' she still hadn't visited her brother's new home even though he'd been there for two months ... but i guess she might have been telling Wally a lie.
anyway, i'm lone voice again, but i think she was being sarcastic (as Eames often is) about being the prom queen (or whatever she calls it) because one: she only had $50 for a dress and she and i are the same age and there's no way in the world i could have found a decent 'prom' dress (never mind shoes, pantyhose, etc.) for fifty bucks, and two: the USA isn't that different than Canada, and girls are selected for such dubious honours as 'prom queen' based on popularity, grades, looks, and family connections. Eames grew up a poor kid in a disgraced cop's family where there were too many kids, and she wore tight black mini skirts. (and she looked good in them, too. 'yesterday') she was NOT prom queen material. i'm still a lone voice, but they were talking about being "well adjusted" in 'bright boy'. it was a clue to us that Bobby isn't the only partner whose childhood was less than ideal, but he's the only one who's whining about it. i get the feeling Eames doesn't have a lot of tolerance for whining.
just my opinion.

i have watched and rewatched season one obsessively b/c i'm always looking for a clue to when she asked for a new partner (during a case we know about, or before?), and when she changed her mind.
oh, bogoalexea, i love them, too! really, i can't find a season i don't love (except eight, and i'm working on it - watching them in the correct order does certainly help - it's shippier.)

may i decorate?
i am a bad person, but this is hot.


and here they are just after visiting Frances the first time ... you folks have been enjoying these shots of them doing this thing ...

after this moment, they both look up to the ceiling at the same time.
which makes me wonder if they still rehearse a lot, or if vdo and ke just do this now? perhaps the director calls out the actions? "okay, look down ... 2 3 4 ... okay now up and 2 3 4 and back to the cadaver .... " and so on?
SHIP!

Done.

It's always been my impression that she asked for a new partner before the first episode...there was one early episode where they both were given the opportunity to go to a special task force and Bobby asked her if she was sure she wasn't interested. She said something like, "I'm not trying to get noticed." If she wanted to get away from working with Bobby, wouldn't that task force be the perfect opportunity?

And while you're reviewing season 1, let us know if you see any shippiness, okay? I've never noticed it during the first season but I cold be missing something.

I'm not sure if this counts as shippiness, but Pardoner'sTale/Story/whatever was on this morning and I love watching the Lewis stuff.

When The witness comes in and they are looking at muscles cars. Bobby then asks Alex is she wants to come along and meet a buddy. Alex replies (enthusiastically, I might add) That she loves meeting Bobby's buddies.

Hello? Does Bobby take his partner around and introduce her to all his buddies. Just how many does he have and how many has she met? It sure didn't sound like it was the first time she's met them and she was looking forward to it. Do all of Bobby's buds just help him out on cases or has Eames been socializing? I'm just sayin'...

Then you have Lewis and Alex meeting. Alex leans over the car and asks who he (Lewis) is trying to outrun. She walks off and Lewis delcares his love. Bobby and Alex are in the right of the screen. Look at the look Bobby gives her as she goes past--like he's darn proud of her and he then turns to Lewis with something akin to pride on his face.

I've never noticed this before.

soooooo many things to comment on!!! i looooves it!!!




i agree!!! i think it was a case of "married couple" again..... wife getting on to her husband about what he SHOULD be doing.....naaagggg.. altho' she was right. he was better off not knowing. he wanted to know. she wanted to spare him.. or maybe she thought brady was trying to get into bobby's head and mess with him. she might have thought brady was full of it. dunno. in the x-files scully was always trying to get mulder away from the suspects that were messing with him.... very shippy!! altho eames is a bit more aggressive than scully.




georgia!! banjos playing and everything!! paddle harder baby, they're gainin' on us!!!





whoa!!! thats a very interesting discussion..... VDO is a wonderful method actor!!!

you know basically you are describing me - cant lie, no poker face.....except i suck at acting.... i got laughed off the stage in Romeo and Juliet when i was in 4th grade... yeah i took too long to die as Tybalt..... i mean come on - what 9 yr old knows how long it takes for someone to die???? can i help it if it took me 5 mins of stumbling around?? (heavy sigh)......my dads' laugh was the loudest.... hahaha!!


loooves that pic... keeping each other warm - awwwwwwww....



i think folks mistake "having morals" with "by the book". eames is an honest cop.. so is bobby. they are "good cops". they are NOT by the book. letting your partner go rogue and infiltrate a detention center is not a "by the book" move. no matter how ya slice it.... they thought by infiltrating the detention center it would serve the greater good. they have their own sense of right and wrong. bishop was a "by the book" cop. bobby's interregation style and tactics bothered her - it doesnt bother eames at all. she even joins in. bobby and eames have the same moral standards. which is very important for friends/partners/significant others. if you are constantly questioning what your friend/partner/significant other does you prob wont be staying with them long.....



yeah another guy is impressed by his woman.... hes gotta love that!!


oh and HAPPY BELATED FLUFF DAY!!!!!!

I watched the DVR of TWWW and VDO said that he would signal Renee Z. by strumming his fingers when they were supposed to speak at the same time. I bet he signals KE for scenes like this too.......

jr, you are cracking me up! Don't make me tell you about my first role. In an early scene in the play, I spotted my friend from first grade, Susan, in row 4, stage left of the audience. So I decided in a later scene to go out and sit on a couch, stare at her, and smile. Too bad I was playing 6 year old Gretl in The Sound of Music and the other characters were talking about the Nazis invading Austria. Yeah, that got some laughs. You'd be great at method acting. You just need a decent director and some more encouragement and some training. It's not mimicking--you take on the persona of someone else, so you naturally respond as they do. Think of a transformation like Kevin Mulrooney into Gabby in Lady's Man--kinda like that.



The strumming thing--that's cool. That would make sense trying to sync speech. The important thing is that it's in character, and not to break character (and of course VDO knows that). So someone saying "down, now up, now cadaver"--I don't think that would fly. It's breaking the intensity of the scene--you have to do it and be it, not think it--does that make sense? Maybe I'm wrong about that--maybe it's different because of the necessities of film media. But part of what you're taught is excluding the "outside world" from what's going on inside the characters' world. I'm presuming they rehearse it, with the director guiding them what to do and when, and then he lets them do it. Just my guess--don't know squat about film-specific techniques.

As far as their synchonized body language goes, some of that's the directing and some of that's the 2 interacting/playing off each other. When you're in character, you can't "help" it--it's going to come through. Kinda like when you're on a date and you've got all the "I'm interested" body language and you're leaning into the person, etc. and you don't even realize you're doing it. It just happens. But if there were an outsider looking in, they would see the synced-up tells between you and your date. That's what we are as the audience--outsiders looking in. We're seeing the tells that naturally occur.

And yeah, I'm sure they rehearse it a lot if necessary. And the "react" is as important as the "act". They are intentionally blocked at a certain distance from each other and at a certain angle to each other--I'm sure of that. But after all these years, I'm also sure the characters have this "I totally get you" thing going on, so it must be easier when Bobby and Alex are supposed to be in sync.

Shippiness in Season 1 - great catch!!! She acts so thrilled to be invited and he acts so thrilled showing her off to his friend.

We're like a bunch of football analysts "breaking down film."

You got what I was trying to say uni. ... but jr. just brought us an AWESOME analysis here ::claps hands::


Interesting line of thought there... interesting


I'm with you there uni.; he's so hot handling a gun





Great point there MaryE
Me too, I always thought that she already withdrew her letter back then (or she was really considering it...). Yeah, we could see that she was still weirded out by Bobby. But hey, that was the adjusting talking (I guess).