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designer
I still have trouble watching this episode. But, it aired yesterday morning. I was watching it
and realized, he had two of the pills that Dr. Kroger gave him. But, Kroger said to start with
ONE pill.

Did he take two, in order to make the amount even? unsure.gif

HUGS

~Karla
quinfran
QUOTE (designer @ Apr 21 2008, 10:47 AM) *
I still have trouble watching this episode. But, it aired yesterday morning. I was watching it
and realized, he had two of the pills that Dr. Kroger gave him. But, Kroger said to start with
ONE pill.

Did he take two, in order to make the amount even? unsure.gif

HUGS

~Karla

That could be the reason. I always thought he did it because he thought two would make him feel really good.
4thecaptain
QUOTE (designer @ Apr 21 2008, 10:47 AM) *
I still have trouble watching this episode. But, it aired yesterday morning. I was watching it
and realized, he had two of the pills that Dr. Kroger gave him. But, Kroger said to start with
ONE pill.

Did he take two, in order to make the amount even? unsure.gif

HUGS

~Karla


I saw that yesterday morning too and wondered the same thing.

Mother of Mary what happened to you ?
Bubba_Bridges
Hi Bubba here, I think he took both pills with some water.
designer
QUOTE (Bubba_Bridges @ Apr 21 2008, 12:04 PM) *
Hi Bubba here, I think he took both pills with some water.


wow, I'm really going to have to watch, lol instead of working on my afghans.
I can't take meds, or even IB Profin two at a time. That's one of my quirks, though.

HUGS
scaredandhemorrhaging
QUOTE (designer @ Apr 21 2008, 10:47 AM) *
I still have trouble watching this episode. But, it aired yesterday morning. I was watching it
and realized, he had two of the pills that Dr. Kroger gave him. But, Kroger said to start with
ONE pill.

Did he take two, in order to make the amount even? unsure.gif

HUGS

~Karla


He was just super depressed. He's wasn't thinking rationally. Maybe on other circumstances the medicine wouldn't be so harmful and annoying making him.
BfloGal
QUOTE (scaredandhemorrhaging @ Apr 21 2008, 09:38 PM) *
He was just super depressed. He's wasn't thinking rationally. Maybe on other circumstances the medicine wouldn't be so harmful and annoying making him.



I loved the Monk - I mean for entertainment. He seemed like a strange cross between a 14 year old boy raised by wolves (no social skills) and a middle aged man in a bizarre midlife crisis. I think it was good for Adrian to be able to relax and do some things that he probably has never been able to do before - eat fast food, dress down, swim in a public pool.

It was sad to see that nobody liked this character any better.

But I'd like to see him again. I think occasional judicious and supervised use of dioxynil could really enrich his life -- he could go to amusement parks, go on dates, and wear rented bowling shoes. The little joys of life. It would be nice to see him be able to let down his hair and take a day off.

But I guess that would be advocating recreational drug use.

I also liked that Goldberg brought the Monk back in the books. He's fun to see every now and then.
Liv
QUOTE (quinfran @ Apr 21 2008, 10:09 AM) *
That could be the reason. I always thought he did it because he thought two would make him feel really good.


I always thought he took two, and probably later on, took more than that, not because he was hoping to feel good as much as he was hoping to stop feeling bad. I think he was just aiming for not being in pain, when it started, the idea, the possibility of actually feeling good probably hadn't crossed his mind. And he probably took more than was reccomended because he was so desperate to feel better, and wanted it to work as fast as possible. Sometimes, when things get that bad, it seems like cruelty to have to wait around for the stupid medicine to finally work, to have some kind of affect. It's kind of hard to be patient when you're down so low.
monkophile1
QUOTE (Liv @ Apr 21 2008, 08:58 PM) *
I always thought he took two, and probably later on, took more than that, not because he was hoping to feel good as much as he was hoping to stop feeling bad. I think he was just aiming for not being in pain, when it started, the idea, the possibility of actually feeling good probably hadn't crossed his mind. And he probably took more than was reccomended because he was so desperate to feel better, and wanted it to work as fast as possible. Sometimes, when things get that bad, it seems like cruelty to have to wait around for the stupid medicine to finally work, to have some kind of affect. It's kind of hard to be patient when you're down so low.


Dr. Kroger said that 1 would be a half dose, so the idea was that 2 would be okay. And it is an even number. I agree with Liv. He just wanted the pain to stop. I always wonder about the 2 pills when I see that episode. What if he took less? And called the doctor like he was supposed to? Maybe he would have been more successful with it.
randys1girl
QUOTE (BfloGal @ Apr 21 2008, 06:50 PM) *
I loved the Monk - I mean for entertainment. He seemed like a strange cross between a 14 year old boy raised by wolves (no social skills) and a middle aged man in a bizarre midlife crisis. I think it was good for Adrian to be able to relax and do some things that he probably has never been able to do before - eat fast food, dress down, swim in a public pool.

It was sad to see that nobody liked this character any better.

But I'd like to see him again. I think occasional judicious and supervised use of dioxynil could really enrich his life -- he could go to amusement parks, go on dates, and wear rented bowling shoes. The little joys of life. It would be nice to see him be able to let down his hair and take a day off.

But I guess that would be advocating recreational drug use.

I also liked that Goldberg brought the Monk back in the books. He's fun to see every now and then.


I just watched this about an hour ago and it's one of my all-time favorites! I remember seeing the promos for it way back when and I could not wait until Friday night to see the whole thing! Tony was hilarious as Adrian in a whole new light! I was ROFL for most of the episode!

It was nice to see him, dare I say it... "forget" about Trudy, even for a little while? I mean, he bought a car, went swimming in a public pool for Heaven's sake! With other people! My husband pointed out that the scene in the pool is rather sad, where they are playing "Marco Polo" and Adrian's trying to get into the game, only to have everyone scatter and leave him alone in the pool, looking like an idiot. sad.gif

Speaking of Trudy, I absolutely LOVE the pillow scene! Where he's talking to her in the bedroom and she tells him that he can't really smell her on that pillow. So incredibly sweet! And then when she says "Be happy, my darling" and touches his face wub.gif SWOON!

As for the meds, yes... he did indeed take two. My guess is that there's no particular reason for it to be honest. I think maybe the writer's didn't expect for us to notice! Or maybe Tony took two by mistake. Who knows. I do know that he didn't call Dr. Kroger like he was told to so that Dr. Kroger could monitor his reaction to it. If there was any flaw to be found in this, it's that I wish they would have shown a follow-up with Dr. Kroger with either Sharona or Adrian telling him what happened when he took the medication.

My favorite lines are still Adrian calling Sharona a big "L-Seven" and calling Disher "Toy-store"! laugh.gif

Andrea
TheAuthor
The first time I took the proper medication to treat my depression I felt better than if I were intoxicated. I remember thinking I wanted to sing gospel songs - and I'm not even a church goer.

It just felt SOOOOOO goood not to hurt anymore.

I can see how someone like Adrian could slip, unsupervised as he was, in to the trap of confusing "Feeling Better" with "Feeling Normal"

Normal is the goal. Better is just a passing side effect on the way to normal. If you keep pursueing 'Better' after 'Normal' then you're just getting high.

And Monk was high. He couldnt concentrate, got impulsive and ... well he got as 'rowdy' as we've ever seen him. That was high.

He was more 'normal' in Mr. and Mrs. - at the BBQ. I love that Monk. He's the one I'm rooting for at the end of every show.

-M
BfloGal
QUOTE (Mandeville @ Apr 22 2008, 08:21 AM) *
And Monk was high. He couldnt concentrate, got impulsive and ... well he got as 'rowdy' as we've ever seen him. That was high.

He was more 'normal' in Mr. and Mrs. - at the BBQ. I love that Monk. He's the one I'm rooting for at the end of every show.

-M


You're right, of course. That's the Adrian Monk I'd like to see at the end of the show too.

But in the meantime, I wouldn't mind another visit from "the Monk" if they could think of a situation in which to logically bring him back. But this doesn't come as much from a desire for the betterment of Adrian Monk, but the admiration for how Tony Shalhoub portrayed him.

Besides, "The Monk" winked at Sharona. I suspect dioxynil minimizes the compulsions and phobias, allowing some unmined natural tendencies to come through unabated. I'd like to see what he thinks of Natalie. wink.gif
TheAuthor
QUOTE (BfloGal @ Apr 22 2008, 07:58 AM) *
Besides, "The Monk" winked at Sharona. I suspect dioxynil minimizes the compulsions and phobias, allowing some unmined natural tendencies to come through unabated. I'd like to see what he thinks of Natalie. wink.gif


Okay, you've got me giggly with "Natalie and The Monk" visions. I'm in.
Liv
QUOTE (BfloGal @ Apr 22 2008, 07:58 AM) *
You're right, of course. That's the Adrian Monk I'd like to see at the end of the show too.

But in the meantime, I wouldn't mind another visit from "the Monk" if they could think of a situation in which to logically bring him back. But this doesn't come as much from a desire for the betterment of Adrian Monk, but the admiration for how Tony Shalhoub portrayed him.

Besides, "The Monk" winked at Sharona. I suspect dioxynil minimizes the compulsions and phobias, allowing some unmined natural tendencies to come through unabated. I'd like to see what he thinks of Natalie. wink.gif



He did certainly seem to be experiencing a lessening of his natural inhibitions, between buying the car, winking at Sharona, hugging/snuggling with Leland and eating his pudding, high fiving Randy, getting in the pool in a state of 'nakedishness', wearing a shirt with ketchup on it and not caring... I wonder what else he might have gotten up to if he had continued to take the doxinyl? tongue.gif Maybe he would end up streaking, like Justin, Sharona's architect boyfriend, or going to a kareokie (spelling?) bar. Or, not so funny maybe, but definitely a bizarre situation, have the next episode be Mr. Monk Has Crabs. Mr. Monk's Forgotten Weekend. Well, considering the blackouts he had already experienced in the earlier episodes and his bout of amnesia in Bumps His Head, I guess a forgotten weekend wouldn't be anything all that new to him. Maybe, "Mr Monk and the Unfortunate Tattoo".

I would just love to see how he would react to all sorts of substances, now that we've seen him on anti-anxiety meds, and wine. I was hoping that he would really have inhaled a little of that reefer in Farm. But then the way it worked out was pretty funny as well. I've joked about how it would be very interesting to see how he would react if he somehow accidentally ingested Ritalin or Adderall. He'd probably be awake for two days straight, trying to singlehandedly scrub all the graffiti off the walls on his street in alphabetical order, try to convince all business owners how much better for everyone it would be if they changed their businesses and business names so that all of the clothing stores would be located together in one small area in alphabetical order, sand any rust from the Golden Gate Bridge and repaint it, and blow all the fog away with a giant leaf blower before he ended up crashing and passing out on a clean bench in Golden Gate Park. But how can you get him to accidentally take Ritalin? There's the flaw. wink.gif
scaredandhemorrhaging
QUOTE (BfloGal @ Apr 21 2008, 09:50 PM) *
I loved the Monk - I mean for entertainment. He seemed like a strange cross between a 14 year old boy raised by wolves (no social skills) and a middle aged man in a bizarre midlife crisis. I think it was good for Adrian to be able to relax and do some things that he probably has never been able to do before - eat fast food, dress down, swim in a public pool.

It was sad to see that nobody liked this character any better.

But I'd like to see him again. I think occasional judicious and supervised use of dioxynil could really enrich his life -- he could go to amusement parks, go on dates, and wear rented bowling shoes. The little joys of life. It would be nice to see him be able to let down his hair and take a day off.

But I guess that would be advocating recreational drug use.

I also liked that Goldberg brought the Monk back in the books. He's fun to see every now and then.


I know. I was so excited when I realized he was on the drug. Halfway through the scene I was like "Could it be? No--it's... The Monk!" LOL
scaredandhemorrhaging
QUOTE (Mandeville @ Apr 22 2008, 09:01 AM) *
Okay, you've got me giggly with "Natalie and The Monk" visions. I'm in.



LOL. I'd love to see what Natilie thinks of The Monk--in the show, not the book. I was kind of confused when he winked at her and she didn't freak out. I suspect something like that was so impossible for Monk she figured he wasn't really winking at her or something. But I laughed so hard when he winked at her. It was so un-Monkish.
scaredandhemorrhaging
He did certainly seem to be experiencing a lessening of his natural inhibitions, between buying the car, winking at Sharona, hugging/snuggling with Leland and eating his pudding, high fiving Randy, getting in the pool in a state of 'nakedishness', wearing a shirt with ketchup on it and not caring... I wonder what else he might have gotten up to if he had continued to take the doxinyl? tongue.gif Maybe he would end up streaking, like Justin, Sharona's architect boyfriend, or going to a kareokie (spelling?) bar. Or, not so funny maybe, but definitely a bizarre situation, have the next episode be Mr. Monk Has Crabs. Mr. Monk's Forgotten Weekend. Well, considering the blackouts he had already experienced in the earlier episodes and his bout of amnesia in Bumps His Head, I guess a forgotten weekend wouldn't be anything all that new to him. Maybe, "Mr Monk and the Unfortunate Tattoo".

Mr. Monk and the Unfortuante Tattoo--LOL. Yes, I would love to see what other shinannigans he would get himself into. Streaking is a bit much, though. Even the swimming was a stretch.


I would just love to see how he would react to all sorts of substances, now that we've seen him on anti-anxiety meds, and wine. I was hoping that he would really have inhaled a little of that reefer in Farm. But then the way it worked out was pretty funny as well. I've joked about how it would be very interesting to see how he would react if he somehow accidentally ingested Ritalin or Adderall. He'd probably be awake for two days straight, trying to singlehandedly scrub all the graffiti off the walls on his street in alphabetical order, try to convince all business owners how much better for everyone it would be if they changed their businesses and business names so that all of the clothing stores would be located together in one small area in alphabetical order, sand any rust from the Golden Gate Bridge and repaint it, and blow all the fog away with a giant leaf blower before he ended up crashing and passing out on a clean bench in Golden Gate Park. But how can you get him to accidentally take Ritalin? There's the flaw. wink.gif
BfloGal
QUOTE (Liv @ Apr 22 2008, 10:34 AM) *
Maybe, "Mr Monk and the Unfortunate Tattoo".


LOL out loud. I'm laughing hysterically while my analytical side is trying to get my mind around the idea. How would he deal with that? I mean, would he have to get another one to make them equal?

On the other hand, depending on where it was, it could take him years to notice that he even has one. laugh.gif
Liv
QUOTE (BfloGal @ Apr 22 2008, 10:45 AM) *
LOL out loud. I'm laughing hysterically while my analytical side is trying to get my mind around the idea. How would he deal with that? I mean, would he have to get another one to make them equal?

On the other hand, depending on where it was, it could take him years to notice that he even has one. laugh.gif



I thought initially, "No, he'd notice it for sure." then I realized there are probably parts of his body he hasn't seen in so long that if he's not careful and opened his eyes at the wrong time while he's in the shower, it just might scare him. laugh.gif So, maybe he could get 'Born To Be Wild' or '...Mild' tattooed on his butt. Or a tweety bird on his hip or something. biggrin.gif Or 'Not an L7' tattooed somewhere he generally tries not to see.

But if he had a tattoo and saw it, he just might try scrubbing it off till he actually succeeded.
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