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cluck73
Hey everyone, this link is courtesy of Daz.

http://www.thereelvincentdonofrio.com/reelblog/reelblog.html
cluck73
I wrote that the epi would be aired 6/8, but I believe it will be aired 6/15. I didn't know how to change the title. sorry! wacko.gif
janpop4
So then assuming that the 6/8 episode is a Logan episode.

Anyway, what I wanted to say before was I didn't see Goren's name even mentioned in this episode at all unless I missed it. It looks like Eames is questioning everyone and no mention of Goren. Where is he? Did I miss something? Lost here. It still looks interesting but without Goren it won't be that interesting.
NickyD
I just read the spoilers all the way through and doesn't it remind you of the old show Wiseguy with Sonny Steelgrave?? I LOVED that show!!! This could be cool. I think Goren is undercover. If he was turning into a dirty cop then Please Note would be pointless and isn't that supposed to air after this one?
ValleyOfTheShadow
QUOTE (cifan70 @ Mar 31 2008, 04:51 PM) *
So then assuming that the 6/8 episode is a Logan episode.

Anyway, what I wanted to say before was I didn't see Goren's name even mentioned in this episode at all unless I missed it. It looks like Eames is questioning everyone and no mention of Goren. Where is he? Did I miss something? Lost here. It still looks interesting but without Goren it won't be that interesting.



No no, Goren is there.

read below if you want to know

Spoiler:
The part i noticably saw was... "Goren ignore Eames' Calls'
There is actually alot of Goren parts in there.


that made me angry.
jess013
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Mar 31 2008, 04:47 PM) *
I wrote that the epi would be aired 6/8, but I believe it will be aired 6/15. I didn't know how to change the title. sorry! wacko.gif


Sorry I don't know, i have never open new topic here sad.gif but it's not very important biggrin.gif


Now, back on-topic, I'm not worried at all after reading this spoiler about Goren's ethical. Apparently he works for a drug dealer and Eames investigate this one at the same time. Then the link seems to obvious for being without reason)
And we know what happens after in Please Note ( i.e. Goren back to work and nothing unsual)
So I'm not worried just exciting biggrin.gif
janpop4
Ignore my previous post. I didn't read down far enough on the page. What the heck is he doing. The undercover is very cool but ignoring Alex, not cool. They both get "temporary" partners. I am not liking this at all but I'll just have to watch it and see. I don't want them to change Goren in any way. I like him the way he is. Blame the sickness for my rambling.
ValleyOfTheShadow
QUOTE (cifan70 @ Mar 31 2008, 05:02 PM) *
Ignore my previous post. I didn't read down far enough on the page. What the heck is he doing. The undercover is very cool but ignoring Alex, not cool. They both get "temporary" partners. I am not liking this at all but I'll just have to watch it and see. I don't want them to change Goren in any way. I like him the way he is. Blame the sickness for my rambling.


I'm sick too, and i feel the same way.

I will virtually punch him if he ignores Eames.
NickyD
QUOTE (ValleyOfTheShado @ Mar 31 2008, 05:04 PM) *
I'm sick too, and i feel the same way.

I will virtually punch him if he ignores Eames.



Maybe he's ignoring her calls because he has to. He doesn't want to blow his cover.
janpop4
QUOTE (ValleyOfTheShado @ Mar 31 2008, 05:04 PM) *
I'm sick too, and i feel the same way.

I will virtually punch him if he ignores Eames.


I may virtually kick him where it hurts. Well maybe not.
ValleyOfTheShadow
QUOTE (NickyD @ Mar 31 2008, 05:05 PM) *
Maybe he's ignoring her calls because he has to. He doesn't want to blow his cover.


I dunno, the way it was said made it look like he was ignoring her calls because he's a grade A jack@(&$#*($&@
jess013
QUOTE (cifan70 @ Mar 31 2008, 05:02 PM) *
Ignore my previous post. I didn't read down far enough on the page. What the heck is he doing. The undercover is very cool but ignoring Alex, not cool. They both get "temporary" partners. I am not liking this at all but I'll just have to watch it and see. I don't want them to change Goren in any way. I like him the way he is. Blame the sickness for my rambling.


I thought Goren was still suspended during this episode not undercover
janpop4
QUOTE (Daz @ Mar 31 2008, 05:07 PM) *
I thought Goren was still suspended during this episode not undercover


You're right he is. I am blinded by sickness. Can't read. I just want him back to work.
SecretPhoenix
I think Eames is going to kick his [email="A@#$"]A@#$[/email] once she finds out.

If i make it to (whenever its airing) without my head exploding, its going to be a miracle.

Should be interesting to see how Eame goes with a temp partner.
ValleyOfTheShadow
QUOTE (cifan70 @ Mar 31 2008, 05:09 PM) *
You're right he is. I am blinded by sickness. Can't read. I just want him back to work.


wait if he is suspended then he is doing this by himself?!

O.O
Jryan
QUOTE (ValleyOfTheShado @ Mar 31 2008, 05:04 PM) *
I'm sick too, and i feel the same way.

I will virtually punch him if he ignores Eames.



ohhh can't wait sound sooo good, and proves Noshippyness there for sure. Woohooo. tongue.gif
ValleyOfTheShadow
QUOTE (SecretPhoenix @ Mar 31 2008, 05:13 PM) *
I think Eames is going to kick his [email="A@#$"]A@#$[/email] once she finds out.

If i make it to (whenever its airing) without my head exploding, its going to be a miracle.

Should be interesting to see how Eames goes with a temp partner.


Oh yea, cause we've only seen Goren with a temp. Good thinking.

QUOTE (Jryan @ Mar 31 2008, 05:15 PM) *
ohhh can't wait sound sooo good, and proves Noshippyness there for sure. Woohooo. tongue.gif


psh. He is ignoring her because he doesn't want to drag her even more into his messed up little world.

---

I like how i am stalking this thread.
SecretPhoenix
QUOTE (ValleyOfTheShado @ Apr 1 2008, 08:14 AM) *
wait if he is suspended then he is doing this by himself?!

O.O


Yahuh *nods*
SecretPhoenix
QUOTE (ValleyOfTheShado @ Apr 1 2008, 08:17 AM) *
Oh yea, cause we've only seen Goren with a temp. Good thinking.



psh. He is ignoring her because he doesn't want to drag her even more into his messed up little world.

---

I like how i am stalking this thread.


Lol. Yeah, should be interesting to see how she does with a 'normal' (for lack of a better word) partner. I guess we will see if the "it's too late" line was true.

We better get a G/E hug hafter all this.
Bubba_Bridges
Hi Bubba here, thanks for startng this thread. I ddin't know the episode title.
jess013
QUOTE (ValleyOfTheShado @ Mar 31 2008, 05:14 PM) *
wait if he is suspended then he is doing this by himself?!

O.O



How I see that :
- He is recruted during his suspension
- He discovers illegal activities of his new boss
- He find a way to communicate these informations to Eames but he needs stay discreet in order not to draw suspicions of his new boss - and then eventually ignore Eames' call

But it's just my opinion it's late here so I need go to sleep

Good night !
cluck73
QUOTE (ValleyOfTheShado @ Mar 31 2008, 06:00 PM) *
No no, Goren is there.

read below if you want to know

Spoiler:
The part i noticably saw was... "Goren ignore Eames' Calls'
There is actually alot of Goren parts in there.


that made me angry.


Yeah, I got angry too, especially because it seems that the best cop in the NYPD has gone bad and now works for the mob? mad.gif

QUOTE (Daz @ Mar 31 2008, 06:01 PM) *
Sorry I don't know, i have never open new topic here sad.gif but it's not very important biggrin.gif


Now, back on-topic, I'm not worried at all after reading this spoiler about Goren's ethical. Apparently he works for a drug dealer and Eames investigate this one at the same time. Then the link seems to obvious for being without reason)
And we know what happens after in Please Note ( i.e. Goren back to work and nothing unsual)
So I'm not worried just exciting biggrin.gif


Good point!

QUOTE (cifan70 @ Mar 31 2008, 06:02 PM) *
Ignore my previous post. I didn't read down far enough on the page. What the heck is he doing. The undercover is very cool but ignoring Alex, not cool. They both get "temporary" partners. I am not liking this at all but I'll just have to watch it and see. I don't want them to change Goren in any way. I like him the way he is. Blame the sickness for my rambling.


I think Bobby's temp partner is the other supsended cop; I don't think they are doing work for the NYPD. sad.gif
Rebeka92
I hope she doesn't get used to Mike (Roche), and it would be cool if she used Goren's tactics on the suspects tongue.gif I doubt that would happen, but still would be cool. Don't be quick to judge Goren, even though he does seem to act like a jerk.
ciaddict
We had 21 pages of posts on the Untethered thread before it even aired. I think we might break that record with this one. Already 2 pages! The spoilers left me feeling anxious. But I refuse to believe Bobby will do anything wrong. And ignoring Eames calls has to be to protect her or to protect his cover (even if it is another "rogue" mission). I think this has left me as anxious as the previews for Untethered did. And we still have 2 months to go! HELP!!!!!
cluck73
QUOTE (ciaddict @ Mar 31 2008, 06:45 PM) *
We had 21 pages of posts on the Untethered thread before it even aired. I think we might break that record with this one. Already 2 pages! The spoilers left me feeling anxious. But I refuse to believe Bobby will do anything wrong. And ignoring Eames calls has to be to protect her or to protect his cover (even if it is another "rogue" mission). I think this has left me as anxious as the previews for Untethered did. And we still have 2 months to go! HELP!!!!!



I'm am right there with you on the edge of my seat! wacko.gif
ciaddict
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Mar 31 2008, 02:47 PM) *
I'm am right there with you on the edge of my seat! wacko.gif


Just don't tip the chair--that's how accidents happen!
cluck73
QUOTE (ciaddict @ Mar 31 2008, 06:48 PM) *
Just don't tip the chair--that's how accidents happen!



well, bobby has caused me to go ::THUD:: on the floor many times before, so I'm sure it will happen again! Valley, can I borrow your helmet?
ValleyOfTheShadow
QUOTE (Daz @ Mar 31 2008, 05:26 PM) *
How I see that :
- He is recruted during his suspension
- He discovers illegal activities of his new boss
- He find a way to communicate these informations to Eames but he needs stay discreet in order not to draw suspicions of his new boss - and then eventually ignore Eames' call

But it's just my opinion it's late here so I need go to sleep

Good night !


Possibly, thats a good scenario.

Have a nice night!


QUOTE (ciaddict @ Mar 31 2008, 05:45 PM) *
We had 21 pages of posts on the Untethered thread before it even aired. I think we might break that record with this one. Already 2 pages! The spoilers left me feeling anxious. But I refuse to believe Bobby will do anything wrong. And ignoring Eames calls has to be to protect her or to protect his cover (even if it is another "rogue" mission). I think this has left me as anxious as the previews for Untethered did. And we still have 2 months to go! HELP!!!!!


it better be to protect her, he better not turn into a complete...you know the world.
oh lord...2 months. O.O

QUOTE (cluck73 @ Mar 31 2008, 05:47 PM) *
I'm am right there with you on the edge of my seat! wacko.gif


::joins edge of seat club::
janpop4
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Mar 31 2008, 05:47 PM) *
I'm am right there with you on the edge of my seat! wacko.gif


I am right there with you all on the edge of my seat. This is actually the first discussion of an episode I have done from spoiler to finish. I joined this forum after 'Untethered' already aired. This will be very interesting to see how I do with all this.
ValleyOfTheShadow
QUOTE (cifan70 @ Mar 31 2008, 05:59 PM) *
I am right there with you all on the edge of my seat. This is actually the first discussion of an episode I have done from spoiler to finish. I joined this forum after 'Untethered' already aired. This will be very interesting to see how I do with all this.


Good luck! It's very stressful. wacko.gif
janpop4
QUOTE (ValleyOfTheShado @ Mar 31 2008, 06:07 PM) *
Good luck! It's very stressful. wacko.gif


I can only imagine but it looks to be that way.
Judyg
QUOTE (Daz @ Mar 31 2008, 06:26 PM) *
How I see that :
- He is recruted during his suspension
- He discovers illegal activities of his new boss
- He find a way to communicate these informations to Eames but he needs stay discreet in order not to draw suspicions of his new boss - and then eventually ignore Eames' call

But it's just my opinion it's late here so I need go to sleep

Good night !


That sounds like a good synopsis, Daz - OR could it be that when the Chief of D's leaves the hearing room at the end of Untethered, Ross is waiting to tell Goren of an undercover mission they need him to work and this is the only way his 'cover' would work - to be on suspension? (just thinking out loud)

QUOTE (cifan70 @ Mar 31 2008, 06:59 PM) *
I am right there with you all on the edge of my seat. This is actually the first discussion of an episode I have done from spoiler to finish. I joined this forum after 'Untethered' already aired. This will be very interesting to see how I do with all this.


I don't think I've ever joined an episode discussion from spoiler to end, either cifan70 - I joined before Untethered but never jumped in.
ciaddict
QUOTE (cifan70 @ Mar 31 2008, 02:59 PM) *
I am right there with you all on the edge of my seat. This is actually the first discussion of an episode I have done from spoiler to finish. I joined this forum after 'Untethered' already aired. This will be very interesting to see how I do with all this.



QUOTE (Judyg @ Mar 31 2008, 03:13 PM) *
That sounds like a good synopsis, Daz - OR could it be that when the Chief of D's leaves the hearing room at the end of Untethered, Ross is waiting to tell Goren of an undercover mission they need him to work and this is the only way his 'cover' would work - to be on suspension? (just thinking out loud)



I don't think I've ever joined an episode discussion from spoiler to end, either cifan70 - I joined before Untethered but never jumped in.


Unless I get internet hooked up at home by June 15, I will have to plan another overnighter at my mother's like I did for Untethered. Oh wait, I'll have to work the next day! Maybe I should take that Monday off. How pathetic is that--taking a day off work so I can stay up all night talking about an episode? I think I need to go visit the Are We Pathetic thread.

Ciaddict--certified member of the Edge of Seat club
cluck73
QUOTE (Judyg @ Mar 31 2008, 07:13 PM) *
That sounds like a good synopsis, Daz - OR could it be that when the Chief of D's leaves the hearing room at the end of Untethered, Ross is waiting to tell Goren of an undercover mission they need him to work and this is the only way his 'cover' would work - to be on suspension? (just thinking out loud)



I like the way you think, Judy! You always find a way to make me feel better! wink.gif
Judyg
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Mar 31 2008, 07:18 PM) *
I like the way you think, Judy! You always find a way to make me feel better! wink.gif



I know my Goren, cluck - I can't see VDO allowing Goren to go too far to the dark side. Goren's got a strong sense of right and wrong.
DonnaLJo
Accoding to The Reel, the "tidbits" listed are subject to change. We know during production they will revise things. So ignoring Eames could either change or just be a situation where if he answered the phone, it would blow his cover.

My take on this is that Goren innocently starts a side job that another cop who is on suspension offers him. Immediately he realizes that its an illegal enterprise, so he goes undercover (either officially or unofficially) since he is off the radar. He pretends to go along with things.

Hope this is right. I can't imagine the writers changing our beloved character into a thug. Goren is the epitomy of ethical integrity. That cannot change.

And I hope Eames' temporary new partner is a stupid slug wink.gif
jcsavestheday
Holy cow. This sounds bad...really bad...I hope that Bobby doesn't do anything stupid...
ValleyOfTheShadow
QUOTE (jcsavestheday @ Mar 31 2008, 06:47 PM) *
Holy cow. This sounds bad...really bad...I hope that Bobby doesn't do anything stupid...


JC!!!!!!

@*(#&*(@!@*&*(#

i've missed you. Where did you go?
cluck73
QUOTE (Judyg @ Mar 31 2008, 07:22 PM) *
I know my Goren, cluck - I can't see VDO allowing Goren to go too far to the dark side. Goren's got a strong sense of right and wrong.



Yeah, maybe the epi will end with a twist and though all along will wonder if he's turned bad, but then we realize he was good all along!
jcsavestheday
QUOTE (ValleyOfTheShado @ Mar 31 2008, 06:49 PM) *
JC!!!!!!

@*(#&*(@!@*&*(#

i've missed you. Where did you go?



I've been BIZZ-EEE. Its been bad news. I'm popping in today for a little break. I'm thinking that I prolly won't be up to my old tricks until sometime after the second half of the season airs.
janpop4
QUOTE (Judyg @ Mar 31 2008, 06:13 PM) *
That sounds like a good synopsis, Daz - OR could it be that when the Chief of D's leaves the hearing room at the end of Untethered, Ross is waiting to tell Goren of an undercover mission they need him to work and this is the only way his 'cover' would work - to be on suspension? (just thinking out loud)



I don't think I've ever joined an episode discussion from spoiler to end, either cifan70 - I joined before Untethered but never jumped in.


Oooooh that sounds interesting and could work. I like the way you think.

Well we will just go thru this episode of first timers together. We will work thru it just fine I think.


QUOTE (cluck73 @ Mar 31 2008, 07:02 PM) *
Yeah, maybe the epi will end with a twist and though all along will wonder if he's turned bad, but then we realize he was good all along!


Ooooh I like the way you think too. I can just see I am going to have fun reading all of this. I haven't got Goren pinned down like you guys do. I am learning though.

I am with DonnaJo. I hope Eames new partner is a slug also.
ValleyOfTheShadow
QUOTE (jcsavestheday @ Mar 31 2008, 07:06 PM) *
I've been BIZZ-EEE. Its been bad news. I'm popping in today for a little break. I'm thinking that I prolly won't be up to my old tricks until sometime after the second half of the season airs.


Aw, okay, well i hope everything goes good. I'm glad you popped in. I kept asking everyone where you were, nobody answered.

Glad to see you. biggrin.gif
jcsavestheday
QUOTE (ValleyOfTheShado @ Mar 31 2008, 07:32 PM) *
Aw, okay, well i hope everything goes good. I'm glad you popped in. I kept asking everyone where you were, nobody answered.

Glad to see you. biggrin.gif


Glad to see that someone missed me tongue.gif . I missed you all, too. I actually thought about you a couple of days ago, I was like, "I am quite possibly the most awsome person who has ever lived." and then I thought, "hey, that's something that Valley would say."
ValleyOfTheShadow
QUOTE (jcsavestheday @ Mar 31 2008, 07:34 PM) *
Glad to see that someone missed me tongue.gif . I missed you all, too. I actually thought about you a couple of days ago, I was like, "I am quite possibly the most awsome person who has ever lived." and then I thought, "hey, that's something that Valley would say."


haha biggrin.gif

that is definitely something i would say. tongue.gif
Judyg
QUOTE (jcsavestheday @ Mar 31 2008, 08:06 PM) *
I've been BIZZ-EEE. Its been bad news. I'm popping in today for a little break. I'm thinking that I prolly won't be up to my old tricks until sometime after the second half of the season airs.


jc - you have been missed by quite a few of us. Glad to see you here if only for a bit and hope all works out well for you. If you need to talk or vent - I'm a good listener feel free to PM me.

QUOTE (cifan70 @ Mar 31 2008, 08:25 PM) *
Oooooh that sounds interesting and could work. I like the way you think.

Well we will just go thru this episode of first timers together. We will work thru it just fine I think.


Ooooh I like the way you think too. I can just see I am going to have fun reading all of this. I haven't got Goren pinned down like you guys do. I am learning though.

I am with DonnaJo. I hope Eames new partner is a slug also.


Thanks cifan70 - when my meds work (lol) I have some good thought process going on. biggrin.gif
Bubba_Bridges
Hi Bubba here, glad to see a few of my old friends back. smile.gif
chimera
seems like there are references to VDOs past in episodes. So is he like a bouncer at the front door of the club? Wonder if he'll get his nose broken by a catchup bottle?
gorens_veal
The reelblog has just posted a plot summary of Purgatory. It is not looking good. I will post the link, but not the spoilers. I am not happy.

Sorry, I didn't realize that this thread already had 3 pages!

http://www.thereelvincentdonofrio.com/reel...3/spoilers.html
CI fan
My guess is not only that he is working undercover, but the whole suspension was part of the plan. Maybe some people at 1pp are suspect. And I'm sure he ignores Eames call for her safety or his own.
janpop4
QUOTE (susan1212 @ Mar 31 2008, 07:53 PM) *
My guess is not only that he is working undercover, but the whole suspension was part of the plan. Maybe some people at 1pp are suspect. And I'm sure he ignores Eames call for her safety or his own.


That is a good assumption. Why didn't I think of that? I said something like that at the beginning of the thread, working undercover, but I misread it, I should have rethought myself. And I am sure he is not answering Alex's call for her safety and not to drag her into the anymore trouble like he did in 'Untethered'.
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