TOPIC FOR THE NIGHT: Lassiter's evolution as a character - when did he quit being such a complete a$$hole?

During my time away from the internet, I decided to start watching season 1 again in an effort to find the episode where Lassiter "turned the corner" and quit being such a total "I hate Spencer" obstructive jerk all the time. I believe I have narrowed it down to a single moment in the series.

Before this scene, Lassiter only showed a few isolated moments of respect for Shawn. Case in point: the premier, where he's trying to force Shawn into the car. After Shawn reveals the true killer's identity, Lassiter stops, leans on the car next to Shawn, and asks, "Seriously. How?" But the real breakthrough for the character occurs in "9 Lives" where they break in on the killer trying to murder McNabb. Shawn manages to talk to the killer into making the mistake that allows Lassiter to apprehend him. Lassiter looks back at Shawn and says, "That was adequate, Spencer." In that moment, by the look on Lassiter's face, we see that Shawn has finally really earned his respect.

After that moment, the "group" dynamic has changed to the point where they have normal conversations like average people instead of constantly being dominated by "Get out of here, Spencer!" Sure he still says it, but not nearly as much. It is clear from that point on that Lassiter's demeanor towards Shawn has become more accepting and less obstructive. After that, Lassiter gives Shawn a case (even though he thinks it's funny to give him a case with a naked guy in a field), confides in him about his estranged wife in the bar, gets Shawn's bike back, etc. Lassiter becomes a much more likable character as a result.


WOW. I have way too much time on my hands. This rocks.


Texasartchick

see texas, thats why we missed you. youre just so wicked insightful. i for one do not have that kind of brain power at... 12:10 at night. we...or at least i, need you for your smart remarks that make up for my little ditzy ones haha.

I knew you'd get it! Thanks for the compliment. Things like that just come to me.



You rock, Texas! I was going to propose that this thread put together an essay (and I use the term lightly) about this very subject! It would be epic! We all just need to put some ideas out there, then we can arrange it into something that makes sense and post it.

wow princess. youre just on a roll.

and ill attempt to contribute to this essay...no guarantee my thoughts will be coherent for much longer, however.

We can form ideas over a few days. It doesn't have to be completed tonight.

So what's on for the screencap frenzy tonight?

Man, USA needs to reload the first part of season 3 on the Psych videos page. Those are the only episodes haven't seen yet. It just has most of the second half of season 3. I need my "fix".



Texasartchick

"Then think about some of the things he and Shawn might do together as a couple. Think hard. Pun intended. "


I believe she is referring to his "La$$sole".


Ooh I'm bad.....




Texasartchick

Screencap frenzy is "American Duos" tonight. And I completely agree about the first part of season 3! I haven't seen most of them since they aired!



Lexternal rectal opening!!!

It auto corrected me!!! lol! What I wrote was La$$hole!

I think the real change began in 9 Lives, but became more apparent in Starbucks. Of course he covered it right back up after he gained a little confidence and was sober again, but that was just Lassiter at the time. I've loved seeing him progress since then, though. He's beginning to see them all as more of a team as opposed to a group of people he has to put up with to get through his workday. He's been realizing that when it comes down to it, these are people he can rely on even if he isn't going to choose to a lot of the time.

He doesn't show it always; he still feels he has to keep up appearances at least some of the time. When he does put up that gruff attitude though, you can almost always see right through it to know that it's just a front. I think he's still sometimes sincere with the b*tchiness, but who isn't? And Rome wasn't built in a day, he's still got time!


*Also...Texas! Getting in on the innuendo! I feel we are definitely the most provocative thread on this board. But who can really blame us?

We're definitely that, acubound. But, seriously, look at what we have to work with! How can we not be?

Exactly! When you give us this kind of material, what else is gonna happen?

There is no alternative! The only thing that can happen is what's happening. It's 1st grade science.

Well, I really hope it's not 1st grade science!

It is in public school.

That's such a sad thought. And probably very true. Poor kids!

Take it from a former public school kid, it is. lol!

Either it wasn't that way around here for the couple of years I was in school before you, or I was just naive enough to not get it at the time. I really am kind of hoping for the former given that I think naivete is something that's kind of slipping away these days.

Really most of the really naughty teachings came in 6th grade. I learned more that year than I ever needed to know in a lifetime.

That sounds much less disturbing than all the 6-year-olds in the US knowing waaayy too much! Though given the current demographics in my area, the truth is probably not all that much better. But hey, take what we can get, right?


I'm going to go back a few pages and tally up points and post them...I'm behind!

Indeed.

Tally away!

Wow, I'm 25 minutes into American Duos, and I already have 170 screencaps. Good pick, Winky.

Wow...that's a lot!


I'm still tallying...we've gained a lot of pages since I last added more points to the list I've been keeping!

"I think the real change began in 9 Lives, but became more apparent in Starbucks. Of course he covered it right back up after he gained a little confidence and was sober again, but that was just Lassiter at the time. I've loved seeing him progress since then, though. He's beginning to see them all as more of a team as opposed to a group of people he has to put up with to get through his workday. He's been realizing that when it comes down to it, these are people he can rely on even if he isn't going to choose to a lot of the time."

Agreed! The initial evolution of the character is most evident in "Starbucks", as that's the first time we really see his human side.


"Also...Texas! Getting in on the innuendo! I feel we are definitely the most provocative thread on this board. But who can really blame us?"


I blame the squib.



Texasartchick

"Wow, I'm 25 minutes into American Duos, and I already have 170 screencaps. Good pick, Winky."

I want to see plenty of screencaps of the hospital scene. Particularly the slap. The best part of the episode is that slap. Well, that and going over the chair backwards.

"Mr. Bean!"



Texasartchick

Another big episode where we see a lot of the change in Lassie's character is "Lassie Did a Bad Bad Thing." I'd start listing reasons, but I have screencapping to attend to. Feel free to discuss this amongst yourselves. I shall chime in here and there.

Well that's certainly fair! It's the squib's fault! And the eyes. And the always-present gun. And the hands. And, yeah. It's just all a very lethal combination! There's only one possible outcome!


"Sexy Points" Update! (all points added since I last posted them...some 100+ pages ago...)

10 Awkardness at joke-backfire in Judging Amy clip
5 CSI baseball cap
5 Wii boxing
10 Paper crown (Judging Amy clip)
5 Looks good in gold tie/pin-striped suit combo
10 Lassiter torturing Shawn (Gus' Dad…)
10 Reinforcement of alpha-male position (Gus' Dad…)
5 "Clif bar/morning run" face (Gus' Dad...)
20 Chipmunk face (Gus' Dad…)3Arresting people
3 "Forgetting to dial down his coolness"
10 Game face (Gus' Dad)
2 "Cupcakes. With little handcuffs on them. And sprinkles."
2 "McNabb!" jump
5 Civil War buff
3 Vocabulary!
20 SexySling!Lassie
5 Rob-a-Bye Lassie-wince
2 Concern for proper grammar
2 Smirk!
3 Impressive Strength
20 Shassie sexiness
10 Perfect "arrest hair"
5 Not laughing at Buzz's boxers!


Current Total: 804!

You rock, acubound!

Screencaps are loading and shall be up shortly!!!

Screencaps are here!

Here comes one of my favorite scenes in the episode! The interrogation room w/ Shawn and Gus!

Anyone still here?

I guess there is someone here! Yay!

Lassie is frustrated by the presence of Gus and Buzz. How will he and Shawn make hot interrogation room love with those 2 in the way?!

That certainly is the way it looks, isn't it?

It's exactly how it looks! lol! Told you I'd find the Shassie in this eppy!

I was a fool for doubting you!

Gus! Let me show you the way out. Shawn and I need to have a little chat...

lol!

Perfect!

Okay...look at how he sits in that chair! It's how I look sitting in a child's chair. Those legs need a taller chair, but then he wouldn't step over the back of it the way he always does. I guess sacrifices must be made. Lassiter stays in a too-small chair, then!

I know, but those legs are so hot! lol!!! Yeah, he must stay in a tiny chair! I will not lose the stepping over the back of it thing!

I love this face!

It is a good face, but for some reason I like this one better...

Emilina's first interrogation! Yay!

They are both fantastic!