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DetectiveMcPDQ
Hey,everyone.I've noticed that the twins haven't ever had that much screen time we've seen them at the dinner table in season one and then we've seen them on and off through out the seasons.This show isn't called The Stabler Show but still I'd like to see some Dickie(and Lizzie),maybe I've been too E/O occupied to notice him in the episodes but I don't remember seeing him since like the first few seasons and like his conformation in Scheherezade.How old would that make him and Lizzie?This thread is personalized for the Stabler children and any SVU children you'd like to talk about!Hopefully if us E/O shippers need to go through the whole E/K thing then let us see some true family moments!Also I made sure there were no other threads like this on the board.
xoxo,
Girl Interrupted
ElliotNOliviaSVULover
QUOTE (DetectiveMcPDQ @ Jun 19 2007, 08:14 PM) *
Hey,everyone.I've noticed that the twins haven't ever had that much screen time we've seen them at the dinner table in season one and then we've seen them on and off through out the seasons.This show isn't called The Stabler Show but still I'd like to see some Dickie(and Lizzie),maybe I've been too E/O occupied to notice him in the episodes but I don't remember seeing him since like the first few seasons and like his conformation in Scheherezade.How old would that make him and Lizzie?This thread is personalized for the Stabler children and any SVU children you'd like to talk about!Hopefully if us E/O shippers need to go through the whole E/K thing then let us see some true family moments!Also I made sure there were no other threads like this on the board.
xoxo,
Girl Interrupted


We saw him (and Lizzie & crew) in one of the last few episodes too, ummm...Annihilated? I honestly don't remember.

I'm thinking he & Lizzie are around 13 or so now?
Bubba_Bridges
Hi Bubba here, ...

QUOTE (DetectiveMcPDQ @ Jun 19 2007, 07:14 PM) *
Hey,everyone.I've noticed that the twins haven't ever had that much screen time we've seen them at the dinner table in season one and then we've seen them on and off through out the seasons.This show isn't called The Stabler Show but still I'd like to see some Dickie(and Lizzie),maybe I've been too E/O occupied to notice him in the episodes but I don't remember seeing him since like the first few seasons and like his conformation in Scheherezade.How old would that make him and Lizzie?This thread is personalized for the Stabler children and any SVU children you'd like to talk about!Hopefully if us E/O shippers need to go through the whole E/K thing then let us see some true family moments!Also I made sure there were no other threads like this on the board.
xoxo,
Girl Interrupted


Thanks for making an original thread. smile.gif
Hisgirlforevermore
In Countdown, the twins' birthday is given as February 21. They turned eight in 2001 so they were born in 1993. Which makes them 14 now.
alpharenay94
I read somewhere that they were entering high school. I agree with you, we do need to see more of the twins.
BensonFanatic
Yeah, i think that if a charecter's written w/ Family, they should be included a bit more often than they are...we only saw Olivia's mother once, and that was in the very first eppy, after that, we either heard a tape of her recant, or heard of her death. I know that Olivia's mother was not a very...positive part of her life, but still, she was her mother....

And, i'd like to see more of...Kent? Fin's son. I mean, like i said above, if the charecter's got family written in, they should (maybe not get screen time) but get talked about. Poor Munch...only family he's had was Uncle whats-his-face, the one in the Dani eppy. Other than that, we hear him talk about his father, but that's only about his suicide really....boy....the SVU charecters really have a blah background, eh?

~BF~
DetectiveMcPDQ
I'm guessing with the baby arrival there will be more at home time for Elliot so hopefully it may lead to seeing some more twin-time!I thought they were either 13 or 14 I'm also trying to find out what grade.I think that they're starting high school.But,they haven't graduated for Middle School on SVU or at least they haven't showed them at graduation or spoken about it.Thanks for posting on here!Feel free to share!
xoxo,
DetectiveMcPDQ
Mad4SVU
I wouldn't be surprised if this upcoming Season and season 10 we will be seeing a lot more of the twins now that they are at the age to have a love-hate relationship with Elliot as Maureen has done in season 1 and Kathleen for season 6 and 8. Plus, since the baby's coming, there will probably be jealousy with the parents' attention as they won't be babies of the family anymore.

Dickie has been in more episodes then Lizzie, he had an episode called Game where he helped led Stabler and Fin realize that a murder was a copycat of a computer game (season 6) and he had a brief appearance in Home (season 5) where he was playing a board game with Elliot who was cheating and he called his father up on it.
BensonFanatic
QUOTE (DetectiveMcPDQ @ Jun 19 2007, 11:10 PM) *
I'm guessing with the baby arrival there will be more at home time for Elliot so hopefully it may lead to seeing some more twin-time!I thought they were either 13 or 14 I'm also trying to find out what grade.I think that they're starting high school.But,they haven't graduated for Middle School on SVU or at least they haven't showed them at graduation or spoken about it.Thanks for posting on here!Feel free to share!
xoxo,
DetectiveMcPDQ


Uhm, lol, i dunno what middle school you go to, but the one i went to, you didn't have a "Graduation" it was kinda not a big deal...it was just another grade, in a different building. That'd be like having a graduation for each grade...we only have a graduation for the Seniors...They're probably going into 9th grade if they're 14 like Hisgirl said....
Hope that helps.

~BF~
ElliotNOliviaSVULover
QUOTE (BensonFanatic @ Jun 20 2007, 11:03 AM) *
Uhm, lol, i dunno what middle school you go to, but the one i went to, you didn't have a "Graduation" it was kinda not a big deal...it was just another grade, in a different building. That'd be like having a graduation for each grade...we only have a graduation for the Seniors...They're probably going into 9th grade if they're 14 like Hisgirl said....
Hope that helps.

~BF~



Same here, no "graduation". We did have a dance called "The 8th Grade Social" but that was really it, and in all honesty that wasn't even a big thing.
IrishEyes
We had an 8th grade graduation....the girls had to wear full length gowns and the guys had to wear suits...it was fun and nice....
DetectiveMcPDQ
I graduate next year.We have the band play and chorus people sing I think,I don't know only thing I know is I'll be crying like a little baby.Mainly because it's like a huge chapter of many people's lives middle school and high school can be the worst or best years of your life it's what you make it.
xoxo,
Girl Interrupted
alpharenay94
QUOTE (DetectiveMcPDQ @ Jun 20 2007, 01:49 PM) *
I graduate next year.We have the band play and chorus people sing I think,I don't know only thing I know is I'll be crying like a little baby.Mainly because it's like a huge chapter of many people's lives middle school and high school can be the worst or best years of your life it's what you make it.
xoxo,
Girl Interrupted


Agree, man im going to miss having only 2 grades. One thing I noticed about school when you enter Jr. High your life is almost staring to begin. I hope High School is fun.

I_Love_MH
My middle school had a graduation but they couldn't call it a graduation they had to call it a celebration. It was like a graduation though, they had speeches and we had to dress up and other stuff like that.
alpharenay94
QUOTE (I_Love_MH @ Jun 20 2007, 06:02 PM) *
My middle school had a graduation but they couldn't call it a graduation they had to call it a celebration. It was like a graduation though, they had speeches and we had to dress up and other stuff like that.



That's what our school does.
svulover2008
My old school they said good luck and get the he** out of here maybe beacuse it was just 8th grade down here in my part of fl middle school is only 7&8 grade and was not a big deal you still got treated like a baby .....

now back to Elliot thing i think the baby was in there just to keep Elliot and Kathy together and Olivia and Elliot at just friends but i would like to see more of his family and Fins and his son relationship grow some more ..
DetectiveMcPDQ
In my school I assumed(because I've never attended the graduations) that we have the band play but my friend just said that they don't because people who are graduating can't be playing at the same time,lol.Basically we go to the auditorium get our awards big woopty doo.But the day before we go on a huge field trip like white water rafting or to go see the white house etc. I can't wait,the assistant principal(who rocks) told us that she'd talk our parents into letting us go,hehe.
xoxo,
Girl Interrupted
alpharenay94
QUOTE (DetectiveMcPDQ @ Jun 20 2007, 07:01 PM) *
In my school I assumed(because I've never attended the graduations) that we have the band play but my friend just said that they don't because people who are graduating can't be playing at the same time,lol.Basically we go to the auditorium get our awards big woopty doo.But the day before we go on a huge field trip like white water rafting or to go see the white house etc. I can't wait,the assistant principal(who rocks) told us that she'd talk our parents into letting us go,hehe.
xoxo,
Girl Interrupted


Your lucky you have an Auditorium, our cafteria is the Auditorium. Can I go with you guys when you go water rafting?
DetectiveMcPDQ
QUOTE (detectiveoliviabenson4life @ Jun 20 2007, 08:29 PM) *
Your lucky you have an Auditorium, our cafteria is the Auditorium. Can I go with you guys when you go water rafting?

LOL,I wish but I think you have to be in the school because we start raising our own money from sixth grade!If you don't go you get to keep the money biggrin.gif !
alpharenay94
QUOTE (DetectiveMcPDQ @ Jun 20 2007, 07:32 PM) *
LOL,I wish but I think you have to be in the school because we start raising our own money from sixth grade!If you don't go you get to keep the money biggrin.gif !



Man,I cant afford that ,I'm Saving for the convention.
IrishEyes
QUOTE (DetectiveMcPDQ @ Jun 20 2007, 07:32 PM) *
LOL,I wish but I think you have to be in the school because we start raising our own money from sixth grade!If you don't go you get to keep the money biggrin.gif !



Thats weird...normally if you don't go the trip costs less for everyone else and you don't receive any of the money
DetectiveMcPDQ
QUOTE (Irisheyes @ Jun 20 2007, 10:19 PM) *
Thats weird...normally if you don't go the trip costs less for everyone else and you don't receive any of the money

Are you serious?I thought we got the money,I thought I remember my assistant principal saying the money gets put into a fund or bond for each person and if they don't got they get the money.
IrishEyes
QUOTE (DetectiveMcPDQ @ Jun 20 2007, 09:31 PM) *
Are you serious?I thought we got the money,I thought I remember my assistant principal saying the money gets put into a fund or bond for each person and if they don't got they get the money.


Sorry to burst your bubble, but I honestly never heard of a person keeping any money they raised for any school....you may be different, but it would be a first for me to hear of it....usually the money is put into a pot for the class and they divide it up between whoever goes on the trip and adjust the expense accordingly....
Hisgirlforevermore
We didn't see Maureen's graduation from high school or from college. We didn't see Kathleen graduate from high school. So I wouldn't expect to see Richard or Elizabeth's graduation from middle school.
IrishEyes
QUOTE (Hisgirlforevermore @ Jun 21 2007, 01:16 AM) *
We didn't see Maureen's graduation from high school or from college. We didn't see Kathleen graduate from high school. So I wouldn't expect to see Richard or Elizabeth's graduation from middle school.


Very True...
DetectiveMcPDQ
Holy Meloni,I'm slow and all but Dickie is a nick name for Richard?Actually,there very well may be a chance to see the graduation if Elliot goes back.We saw Dickie's comformation and that's new and all I just don't remember what he looks like.I must google,lol.
xoxo,
Girl Interrupted
Mad4SVU
QUOTE (DetectiveMcPDQ @ Jun 21 2007, 12:01 PM) *
Holy Meloni,I'm slow and all but Dickie is a nick name for Richard?Actually,there very well may be a chance to see the graduation if Elliot goes back.We saw Dickie's comformation and that's new and all I just don't remember what he looks like.I must google,lol.
xoxo,
Girl Interrupted


I have one uncle and a cousin that are both named Richard but are called "Dick"; it's a common nickname, like Richie. How someone came up with Dick for that name, I'll never know...nor do I think I want to know!

The actor who plays Dickie since the first season to now is Jeffrey Scaperrotta. I've googled him as well and not much comes up. Elizabeth is played by Patricia Cook and not much on her either.
DetectiveMcPDQ
Thanks tons,I've looked up Patrica because I saw her on the SVU Imdb list but I haven't seen Jeffrey on the list!I should use my glasses more often!
xoxo,
Girl Interrupted
Mad4SVU
QUOTE (DetectiveMcPDQ @ Jun 21 2007, 12:25 PM) *
Thanks tons,I've looked up Patrica because I saw her on the SVU Imdb list but I haven't seen Jeffrey on the list!I should use my glasses more often!
xoxo,
Girl Interrupted


Jeffrey was on Guiding Light- a soap I don't watch but I remember seeing his picture in a soap opera magazine...funny thing about that was that like on SVU, he plays a twin! This time instead of a twin sister, it's a twin brother.
ElliotNOliviaSVULover
QUOTE (DetectiveMcPDQ @ Jun 21 2007, 12:25 PM) *
Thanks tons,I've looked up Patrica because I saw her on the SVU Imdb list but I haven't seen Jeffrey on the list!I should use my glasses more often!
xoxo,
Girl Interrupted



He was in "You've Got Mail" too, and I just can't for the life of me make the little kid look like him!!! Even in old episodes of SVU. I even got out my Season 1 DVDs when I had the movie on once and paused both at a shot of him and still was having issues making it the same kid. UGH!!
DetectiveMcPDQ
All I want is a picture of him or something.I'm gonna go down to my cousin's house and get her You've Got Mail DVD even if that means returning her Mr. and Mrs. Smith DVD!LOL...
alpharenay94
QUOTE (DetectiveMcPDQ @ Jun 21 2007, 04:35 PM) *
All I want is a picture of him or something.I'm gonna go down to my cousin's house and get her You've Got Mail DVD even if that means returning her Mr. and Mrs. Smith DVD!LOL...



I love that movie, I stayed up till 3 in the moring on a school night watching it.
drama_queen08
QUOTE (Hisgirlforevermore @ Jun 19 2007, 08:58 PM) *
In Countdown, the twins' birthday is given as February 21. They turned eight in 2001 so they were born in 1993. Which makes them 14 now.


That's how I did it for my stories. The only birthdays that we know of are the twins on Feb 21 and Elliot on Oct 19. Other than that we don't know much. As for ages this is the ages that I use:

Maureen - 22
Kathleen - 19 (If she had her birthday this year)
Dickie and Liz - 14
Hisgirlforevermore
drama_queen08 Posted Today, 06:22 PM
That's how I did it for my stories. The only birthdays that we know of are the twins on Feb 21 and Elliot on Oct 19. Other than that we don't know much. As for ages this is the ages that I use:

Maureen - 22
Kathleen - 19 (If she had her birthday this year)
Dickie and Liz - 14

I agree with your ages for the kids. But I think you are a day off on Elliot's birthday. In Contagious, Elliot takes Holly to the courtroom on the 11/19 where he finds out she was lying about Dobbs' involvement. They find out the other girls are lying as well and Casey goes to night court on the 19th to have Dobbs released. It is daylight when Elliot picks up Kevin Wilcox at the school. So that has to be the 20th, which would be when the kids bring the cake for Elliot's birthday.
Mad4SVU
In Responsible, if you look closely at Kathleen's driver license when Elliot was burning it, you can see her birthday July 11, 1989
Hisgirlforevermore
Mad4SVU Posted Today, 08:51 PM
In Responsible, if you look closely at Kathleen's driver license when Elliot was burning it, you can see her birthday July 11, 1989

That doesn't fit with the information from the episodes.
Kathleen is 12 by 10/5/99 in Hysteria. She is 17 by 1/26/05 in Blood.
Mad4SVU
QUOTE (Hisgirlforevermore @ Jun 24 2007, 09:00 PM) *
Mad4SVU Posted Today, 08:51 PM
In Responsible, if you look closely at Kathleen's driver license when Elliot was burning it, you can see her birthday July 11, 1989

That doesn't fit with the information from the episodes.
Kathleen is 12 by 10/5/99 in Hysteria. She is 17 by 1/26/05 in Blood.


I would have thought she was born in 1987 but SVU writers did keep her 17 for two seasons so for the license prop that the art department made her birthyear 1989.
The writers are always screwing things up, especially with Elliot's time in the Marines
Hisgirlforevermore
Mad4SVU Posted Today, 09:13 PM
I would have thought she was born in 1987 but SVU writers did keep her 17 for two seasons so for the license prop that the art department made her birthyear 1989.
The writers are always screwing things up, especially with Elliot's time in the Marines

Math seems to confuse the writers in general. If they can't keep it straight , why bother giving it to us?
They may have wanted Kathleen to be born in 1989 because Elliot said in Serendipity that Kathy gave birth to her two months early after hearing on the news that Elliot was involved in a shootout. He started with the NYPD in 1989 is we believe Donnelly's claim that he has been with the NYPD for 18 years in Haystack. If Kathleen was born before Elliot was an officer, what was he doing in a shootout?
Mad4SVU
QUOTE (Hisgirlforevermore @ Jun 24 2007, 09:31 PM) *
Mad4SVU Posted Today, 09:13 PM
I would have thought she was born in 1987 but SVU writers did keep her 17 for two seasons so for the license prop that the art department made her birthyear 1989.
The writers are always screwing things up, especially with Elliot's time in the Marines

Math seems to confuse the writers in general. If they can't keep it straight , why bother giving it to us?
They may have wanted Kathleen to be born in 1989 because Elliot said in Serendipity that Kathy gave birth to her two months early after hearing on the news that Elliot was involved in a shootout. He started with the NYPD in 1989 is we believe Donnelly's claim that he has been with the NYPD for 18 years in Haystack. If Kathleen was born before Elliot was an officer, what was he doing in a shootout?


Here's the general information that we know of-
Elliot returns from the Marines to Kathy and Maureen who was a toddler at the time. Kathy quickly became pregnant; he was broke and unemployed (Shaken). During the pregnancy progressed, Elliot was trained to be a cop and the shootout must have been his first major assignment when Kathy saw it on the news and gave birth to Kathleen...which is puzzling to say at the least because Elliot has been there at all the births of his children- so she could have gone into labor, contacted Elliot who rushed over...It could've been a home birth since Elliot said in Serendipity that Kathleen was born right there.
Hisgirlforevermore
Mad4SVU Posted Today, 09:39 PM
Here's the general information that we know of-
Elliot returns from the Marines to Kathy and Maureen who was a toddler at the time. Kathy quickly became pregnant; he was broke and unemployed (Shaken). During the pregnancy progressed, Elliot was trained to be a cop and the shootout must have been his first major assignment when Kathy saw it on the news and gave birth to Kathleen...which is puzzling to say at the least because Elliot has been there at all the births of his children- so she could have gone into labor, contacted Elliot who rushed over...It could've been a home birth since Elliot said in Serendipity that Kathleen was born right there.

No matter how shocked she was, Kathy didn't have Kathleen immediately after going into labour, especially two months early. There would have been time for her to get to a hospital. And probably time for Elliot to get there for the birth itself.
While Elliot may have though it was right away, Kathy's opinion on how quick it was may differ.
StrayStabler
Okay, I watched Serendipity on USA today, and I listened as best I could with my sun fried brain.
What I thought I heard Elliot say was this

I was in a shoot out once when my wife was pregnant, and she went into labor A MONTH early and delivered right on the spot.

I don't recall a reference to a home birth or which pregnancy it was, but I am 100% sure he said a month early.

Does anyone have this on DVD and can clarify?
Hisgirlforevermore
StrayStabler Posted Today, 08:07 PM
Okay, I watched Serendipity on USA today, and I listened as best I could with my sun fried brain.
What I thought I heard Elliot say was this
I was in a shoot out once when my wife was pregnant, and she went into labor A MONTH early and delivered right on the spot.
I don't recall a reference to a home birth or which pregnancy it was, but I am 100% sure he said a month early.
Does anyone have this on DVD and can clarify?

After three passes on the DVD, the quote is:
Years ago, I was involves in a shootout and my wife saw it on the news, gave birth to our second kid right there, a month early.

So the early baby was Kathleen, and she was only a month early. But I think Elliot was exaggerating about how quick the birth was. He did say he was there for the birth of all his kids in Tragedy. And even if Kathy went into labor when she heard the news about the shootout, she would still have to go through labor and delivery. That would take some time especially a month early.
DetectiveMcPDQ
QUOTE (Hisgirlforevermore @ Jun 29 2007, 11:41 PM) *
StrayStabler Posted Today, 08:07 PM
Okay, I watched Serendipity on USA today, and I listened as best I could with my sun fried brain.
What I thought I heard Elliot say was this
I was in a shoot out once when my wife was pregnant, and she went into labor A MONTH early and delivered right on the spot.
I don't recall a reference to a home birth or which pregnancy it was, but I am 100% sure he said a month early.
Does anyone have this on DVD and can clarify?

After three passes on the DVD, the quote is:
Years ago, I was involves in a shootout and my wife saw it on the news, gave birth to our second kid right there, a month early.

So the early baby was Kathleen, and she was only a month early. But I think Elliot was exaggerating about how quick the birth was. He did say he was there for the birth of all his kids in Tragedy. And even if Kathy went into labor when she heard the news about the shootout, she would still have to go through labor and delivery. That would take some time especially a month early.

Thanks for taking your time to clear that up and thank you StrayStabler for telling us,thanks both of you! biggrin.gif
StrayStabler
QUOTE (Hisgirlforevermore @ Jun 29 2007, 10:41 PM) *
After three passes on the DVD, the quote is:
Years ago, I was involves in a shootout and my wife saw it on the news, gave birth to our second kid right there, a month early.

So the early baby was Kathleen, and she was only a month early. But I think Elliot was exaggerating about how quick the birth was. He did say he was there for the birth of all his kids in Tragedy. And even if Kathy went into labor when she heard the news about the shootout, she would still have to go through labor and delivery. That would take some time especially a month early.



Thank you Hisgirl for clarifying. I was waiting for that quote during the ep, but it was over before I realized what he was saying.
I don't remember Tragedy.
And you are probably right about the exaggeration. He probably got to the hospital just in time for her to push.
Hisgirlforevermore
StrayStabler Posted Yesterday, 10:39 PM
I don't remember Tragedy

It was the season 5 premiere where a pregnant woman with complications was kidnapped. Elliot ended up delivering her baby which is where we heard he had been at the births of all his kids.
StrayStabler
QUOTE (Hisgirlforevermore @ Jul 1 2007, 09:05 AM) *
StrayStabler Posted Yesterday, 10:39 PM
I don't remember Tragedy

It was the season 5 premiere where a pregnant woman with complications was kidnapped. Elliot ended up delivering her baby which is where we heard he had been at the births of all his kids.



Didn't he deliver another baby, too? But that of a twelve or thirteen year old that whose mother was involved in a cult? That was the ep with all of the murdered children in it in the beginning. You know me, I am terrible a ep names!
Hisgirlforevermore
StrayStabler Posted Today, 07:35 PM
Didn't he deliver another baby, too? But that of a twelve or thirteen year old that whose mother was involved in a cult? That was the ep with all of the murdered children in it in the beginning. You know me, I am terrible a ep names

That was Charisma. The twelve year old Melanie never had her baby in the episode.
Mary82
QUOTE (Hisgirlforevermore @ Jul 1 2007, 07:01 PM) *
StrayStabler Posted Today, 07:35 PM
Didn't he deliver another baby, too? But that of a twelve or thirteen year old that whose mother was involved in a cult? That was the ep with all of the murdered children in it in the beginning. You know me, I am terrible a ep names

That was Charisma. The twelve year old Melanie never had her baby in the episode.

I think she was just very pregnant. In the end, Olivia and Elliot found out her location from the 12 year old's mom. The cult leader was trying to presuade the young girl into shooting Olivia but she instead shot the cult guy because he said he was greater then God or something to that effect.
Hisgirlforevermore
Mary82 Posted Today, 08:07 PM
I think she was just very pregnant. In the end, Olivia and Elliot found out her location from the 12 year old's mom. The cult leader was trying to presuade the young girl into shooting Olivia but she instead shot the cult guy because he said he was greater then God or something to that effect.

Elliot was out of this episode fairly early. Huang did his chats with the detectives and decided Elliot needed more help in dealing with the murdered children. So they sent him home. Finn went home voluntarily. So just Olivia and Munch were left to work the case.
DetectiveMcPDQ
Charisma was a very good episode. cool.gif I cheered when she shot that bastard,"greater than god" puh-lease!Youtube-Law & Order SVU:Charisma (Pregnant 12-year-old)Clip!!
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