spookycc
Feb 19 2008, 12:22 PM
EVERYONE is welcome to post on this thread!
NoRomos, Shippers and fence-Sitters alike!
Please post reasons for non-shippyness, to add to the list I started below:
1. It would ruin the Goren/Eames dynamic that we currently see on the show.
2. Bobby is too closed-off to be in a "real" relationship.
3. They might get separated from each other @ work if they were dating.
More thoughts? Anyone...
Judyg
Feb 19 2008, 12:36 PM
QUOTE (spookycc @ Feb 19 2008, 12:22 PM)

EVERYONE is welcome to post on this thread!
NoRomos, Shippers and fence-Sitters alike!
Please post reasons for non-shippyness, to add to the list I started below:
1. It would ruin the Goren/Eames dynamic that we currently see on the show.
2. Bobby is too closed-off to be in a "real" relationship.
3. They might get separated from each other @ work if they were dating.
More thoughts? Anyone...

4. VDO has stated he doesn't want a romance for Bobby and the writers will keep him happy.
5. The "tension" isn't there for Goren and Eames in a romantic sense, just warmth, respect and friendship.
6. He calls her "Eames", if they were in a relationship, he would be calling her Alex by now.
Next?
flashymom
Feb 19 2008, 12:51 PM
7. Too many of us would get mad and quit watching the show.
8. "The Big Question" would finally be answered and the mystique would be gone....
9. The fun of the "to ship or not to ship" thread would be over.....
spookycc
Feb 19 2008, 12:51 PM
Good ones, SisJ and flashymom!
10. There's very little touching, usually Bobby stopping Eames when he gets a clue on a cell call, etc. Not forgetting the time he touched her after she almost shot the guy who only had a starters pistol - that was a caring touch and one done by a close friend.
11. When he has a family crisis, he shuts Eames out instead of letting her help. "Back off..."
ciaddict
Feb 19 2008, 01:18 PM
12. There have been hints over the years that they have both dated other people, but never a hint they have ever dated each other.
arwenelf
Feb 19 2008, 01:39 PM
QUOTE (ciaddict @ Feb 19 2008, 10:18 AM)

12. There have been hints over the years that they have both dated other people, but never a hint they have ever dated each other.
13. Bobby is not Eames' type
14. He called her sis.
15. They flirt with other people while working on a case together
Judyg
Feb 19 2008, 01:39 PM
16. Who can forget "It's too late"? While it was a resigned sigh that she is aware of the effect he has had on her career, there is a bit of underlying resentment that she is so closely connected to his 'unique investigative techniques'.
spookycc
Feb 19 2008, 01:42 PM
QUOTE (ciaddict @ Feb 19 2008, 01:18 PM)

12. There have been hints over the years that they have both dated other people, but never a hint they have ever dated each other.
QUOTE (arwenelf @ Feb 19 2008, 01:39 PM)

13. Bobby is not Eames' type
14. He called her sis.
15. They flirt with other people while working on a case together
QUOTE (Judyg @ Feb 19 2008, 01:39 PM)

13. Who can forget "It's too late"? While it was a resigned sigh that she is aware of the effect he has had on her career, there is a bit of underlying resentment that she is so closely connected to his 'unique investigative techniques'.
Oooooo, you guys are GOOD!
spook
Judyg
Feb 19 2008, 01:45 PM
QUOTE (spookycc @ Feb 19 2008, 01:42 PM)

Oooooo, you guys are GOOD!
spook
I edited my post to keep the #'s in order, sis spook.
spookycc
Feb 19 2008, 01:54 PM
QUOTE (Judyg @ Feb 19 2008, 01:45 PM)

I edited my post to keep the #'s in order, sis spook.
Dang, you're good AND organized! Thanks, SIsJ!
spook
spookycc
Feb 19 2008, 02:07 PM
17. Brothers and sisters DO fight and DO feel remorse and a need to reconcile. It's not just for lovers.
18. Goren and Eames have always worked as cop-partners and friends, and he "doesn't react well to change".
19. "Kissing" time would taking time from the plot of the show and we only have 43-44 minutes now.
spook
Jryan
Feb 19 2008, 02:10 PM
QUOTE (spookycc @ Feb 19 2008, 01:07 PM)

17. Brothers and sisters DO fight and DO feel remorse and a need to reconcile. It's not just for lovers.
18. Goren and Eames have always worked as cop-partners and friends, and he "doesn't react well to change".
19. "Kissing" time would taking time from the plot of the show and we only have 43-44 minutes now.
spook
20. The bad guys would get away, Look what happen when Elliot worried too much about Olivia a Boy got killed and the bad guy got away.
spookycc
Feb 19 2008, 02:12 PM
20. Bobby needs Eames to scroll on the PC, not roll in the hay.
21. Touching someone doesn't mean you wanna boink them.
22. Looking at a friend with a knowing smile doesn't mean you wanna boink them.
Judyg
Feb 19 2008, 02:12 PM
#24. They spend all their working hours together - how much more time could they spend together before they ruin the partnership/friendship and not get on each other's nerves?
spookycc
Feb 19 2008, 02:18 PM
QUOTE (Jryan @ Feb 19 2008, 02:10 PM)

20. The bad guys would get away, Look what happen when Elliot worried too much about Olivia a Boy got killed and the bad guy got away.
Ooo, good one, I forgot about "Fault". Poor little boy.
spook
ciaddict
Feb 19 2008, 03:14 PM
QUOTE (Judyg @ Feb 19 2008, 11:12 AM)

#24. They spend all their working hours together - how much more time could they spend together before they ruin the partnership/friendship and not get on each other's nerves?
25. Ross is pretty rigid and if he got wind of anything romantic, he would probably split up their team. Then we might have Logan/Eames and Goren/Wheeler or Goren/Logan or Goren/Jefferies or Goren/Riche or Goren/ANYBODY WHO ISN'T EAMES. That would be terrible.
spookycc
Feb 19 2008, 03:48 PM
26. Bobby would NEVER get to drive.
spook
Judyg
Feb 19 2008, 03:50 PM
#27. After all those years as partners, if Bobby were interested in Eames, he would have taken her to meet his mother voluntarily and not wait for Frank to get involved.
spookycc
Feb 19 2008, 03:52 PM
QUOTE (Judyg @ Feb 19 2008, 03:50 PM)

#27. After all those years as partners, if Bobby were interested in Eames, he would have taken her to meet his mother voluntarily and not wait for Frank to get involved.
Hey Eames saw Bobby's mom once...
...oh yeah.
They didn't exactly get a chance to talk.
spook
Judyg
Feb 19 2008, 03:55 PM
QUOTE (spookycc @ Feb 19 2008, 03:52 PM)

Hey Eames saw Bobby's mom once...
...oh yeah.
They didn't exactly get a chance to talk.
spook
AND Bobby wouldn't have brought the subject up if Frank had 'been talking Eames up'.
JanxAngel
Feb 19 2008, 04:03 PM
QUOTE (ciaddict @ Feb 19 2008, 03:14 PM)

25. Ross is pretty rigid and if he got wind of anything romantic, he would probably split up their team. Then we might have Logan/Eames and Goren/Wheeler or Goren/Logan or Goren/Jefferies or Goren/Riche or Goren/ANYBODY WHO ISN'T EAMES. That would be terrible.
Like Luthor and the cakes.
spookycc
Feb 19 2008, 04:06 PM
28. Putting up with her partner's quirkiness doesn't mean Eames wants to boink Goren.
29. Just because Eames goes to her partner's mom's funeral doesn't mean she wants to boink said partner.
30. Bobby broke Eames' Santa mug. If he loved her he would have bought her another one. Even if it meant scouring ebay and estate sales.
31. Bobby is spending too much time searching for Donny to spend quality time with a girlfriend.
32. When Bobby finds Donny (I hope he will), he will be too busy taking him to yankees games, etc., to spend time with a girlfriend.
spook
spookycc
Feb 19 2008, 04:09 PM
33. Eames does not want the ring that Frank pried off Frances Goren as her engagement ring.
spook
fdl
Feb 19 2008, 04:45 PM
34. The show will have jumped the

(photo taken by friends off their little boat)
spookycc
Feb 19 2008, 04:49 PM
QUOTE (fleurdelis @ Feb 19 2008, 04:45 PM)

34. The show will have jumped the

(photo taken by friends off their little boat)
Cute sharks and great reason, fleurdelis!
spook
Bubba_Bridges
Feb 19 2008, 05:18 PM
Hi Bubba herem I don't think it would work out because they are partners.
janpop4
Feb 19 2008, 05:32 PM
Yes a shipper. I actually have a legitimate reason
35. The show would more than likely be canceled in the near future. (I have seen it happen with other shows that did it)
I don't want that but I can dream.
jcsavestheday
Feb 19 2008, 05:53 PM
QUOTE (arwenelf @ Feb 19 2008, 12:39 PM)

13. Bobby is not Eames' type
14. He called her sis.
15. They flirt with other people while working on a case together
Ok, I know that debating the points probably isn't kosher, but oh well.
14. He called her sis.
It was a part of an undercover thing. How many other times have they been under cover and have posed as a couple. I'm not saying that them posing as a couple means that they are wanting to hook up, but If it dosen't work one way, it shouldn't work the other way.
Your other points were great, though. And I do not mean my comments to be mean in any way.
ciaddict
Feb 19 2008, 05:57 PM
QUOTE (jcsavestheday @ Feb 19 2008, 02:53 PM)

Ok, I know that debating the points probably isn't kosher, but oh well.
14. He called her sis.
It was a part of an undercover thing. How many other times have they been under cover and have posed as a couple. I'm not saying that them posing as a couple means that they are wanting to hook up, but If it dosen't work one way, it shouldn't work the other way.
Your other points were great, though. And I do not mean my comments to be mean in any way.

I'm a NOROMO to the end, but I'm afraid I have to agree on this point. Nothing he calls her while undercover counts--didn't he call her "honey" in Anti-Thesis--when they were in the shoe shop?
spookycc
Feb 19 2008, 05:58 PM
QUOTE (jcsavestheday @ Feb 19 2008, 05:53 PM)

Ok, I know that debating the points probably isn't kosher, but oh well.
14. He called her sis.
It was a part of an undercover thing. How many other times have they been under cover and have posed as a couple. I'm not saying that them posing as a couple means that they are wanting to hook up, but If it dosen't work one way, it shouldn't work the other way.
Your other points were great, though. And I do not mean my comments to be mean in any way.

Every time I see your Bishop cat, it cracks me up, *jc.
spook
spookycc
Feb 19 2008, 06:02 PM
QUOTE (cifan70 @ Feb 19 2008, 05:32 PM)

Yes a shipper. I actually have a legitimate reason
35. The show would more than likely be canceled in the near future. (I have seen it happen with other shows that did it)
I don't want that but I can dream.
You're right, cifan70, "Moonlighting" is one show that comes to mind, that tanked after they partnered the two leads up. Thanks for the input! Shippers and Fence-sitters are welcomed here!
spook
jcsavestheday
Feb 19 2008, 06:07 PM
QUOTE (ciaddict @ Feb 19 2008, 04:57 PM)

I'm a NOROMO to the end, but I'm afraid I have to agree on this point. Nothing he calls her while undercover counts--didn't he call her "honey" in Anti-Thesis--when they were in the shoe shop?
I'm glad that I'm not the only one who thinks that. Going undercover is much like going to Vegas. What happens there, stays there. I mean, if they had to do the naked tango as a part of an under cover thing, it wouldn't mean that they would have really wanted to.
QUOTE (spookycc @ Feb 19 2008, 04:58 PM)

Every time I see your Bishop cat, it cracks me up, *jc.
spook
Thank you. I like my bishop cat.
Speaking of cats, I think that it's cluck who has the two cats in her siggy that are hilarious. I think that they're so cute.
janpop4
Feb 19 2008, 06:08 PM
QUOTE (spookycc @ Feb 19 2008, 05:02 PM)

<br />You're right, cifan70, "Moonlighting" is one show that comes to mind, that tanked after they partnered the two leads up. Thanks for the input! Shippers and Fence-sitters are welcomed here! <img src="style_emoticons/default/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> <br /><br /><br />spook<br />
<br /><br /><br />
I think 'Who's The Boss' did too after the leads paired up if I remember right. I loved that show too. I don't want CI to do the same.
jcsavestheday
Feb 19 2008, 06:09 PM
QUOTE (JanxAngel @ Feb 19 2008, 03:03 PM)

Like Luthor and the cakes.

That was great.
cluck73
Feb 19 2008, 06:09 PM
36. If Bobby had feelings for Eames, he wouldn't of corrected Frank when Frank thought they were romantically involved...he would of clarified!
jcsavestheday
Feb 19 2008, 06:11 PM
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Feb 19 2008, 05:09 PM)

36. If Bobby had feelings for Eames, he wouldn't of corrected Frank when Frank thought they were romantically involved...he would of clarified!
I love your cats cluck. They crack me up every time.
cluck73
Feb 19 2008, 06:11 PM
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Feb 19 2008, 06:09 PM)

36. If Bobby had feelings for Eames, he wouldn't of corrected Frank when Frank thought they were romantically involved...he would of clarified!
37. When Mama Goren told Bobby she heard he had a girlfriend, he corrected her and said, "No, Frank misunderstood." He would have told him mom the truth.
jcsavestheday
Feb 19 2008, 06:12 PM
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Feb 19 2008, 05:11 PM)

37. When Mama Goren told Bobby she heard he had a girlfriend, he corrected her and said, "No, Frank misunderstood." He would have told him mom the truth.
Unless she thought that Alex was a hussy.
ciaddict
Feb 19 2008, 06:26 PM
QUOTE (jcsavestheday @ Feb 19 2008, 03:07 PM)

I'm glad that I'm not the only one who thinks that. Going undercover is much like going to Vegas. What happens there, stays there. I mean, if they had to do the naked tango as a part of an under cover thing, it wouldn't mean that they would have really wanted to.
Thank you. I like my bishop cat.
Speaking of cats, I think that it's cluck who has the two cats in her siggy that are hilarious. I think that they're so cute.
::wiping water off my computer screen after spitting all over it::
cluck73
Feb 19 2008, 06:28 PM
QUOTE (jcsavestheday @ Feb 19 2008, 06:07 PM)

Speaking of cats, I think that it's cluck who has the two cats in her siggy that are hilarious. I think that they're so cute.
Thanks!
spookycc
Feb 19 2008, 07:06 PM
QUOTE (jcsavestheday @ Feb 19 2008, 06:12 PM)

Unless she thought that Alex was a hussy.

Alex a hussy? Bite yer tongue, *jc.
spook
gorengurl22
Feb 19 2008, 07:23 PM
it will never happen because vincent said himself that he doesnt want to have a romance on the show, and that if they thought he should have one he would leave the show lol... thats why it wont happen
Judyg
Feb 19 2008, 07:45 PM
#38. Just because Bobby comes to Alex's defense, doesn't mean he's IN LOVE with her. He is the larger more powerful of the team. He wouldn't just stand back and let her be attacked when he could do something to protect her. They are partners, he's just doing his job.
gorens_veal
Feb 19 2008, 08:23 PM
Boy you non shippers have been very busy since this thread started around noon. Why so paranoid?
I'm just lurking in this thread.
ciaddict
Feb 19 2008, 08:25 PM
QUOTE (HelloBobby @ Feb 19 2008, 05:23 PM)

Boy you non shippers have been very busy since this thread started around noon. Why so paranoid?
I'm just lurking in this thread.

No paranoia--just lots to say!
cluck73
Feb 19 2008, 08:53 PM
QUOTE (ciaddict @ Feb 19 2008, 08:25 PM)

No paranoia--just lots to say!
ditto!
KimberlyTaylor
Feb 20 2008, 12:14 AM
#39. LOCI is after all a CRIME DRAMA, not a soap opera. The two most important detectives are partners not lovers. The show is centered on the crimes and the solving of the crimes. A touch of person info is cool...the two best detective "boining" is not necessary to the continued enjoyment of the program.
#40. Eames has dated, when she was on pregnancy leave. Bobby has dated, Irene for one. If I was IN LOVE with someone I wouldn't be dating someone else.
JMHO
SecretPhoenix
Feb 20 2008, 03:44 AM
QUOTE (spookycc @ Feb 20 2008, 07:06 AM)

30. Bobby broke Eames' Santa mug. If he loved her he would have bought her another one. Even if it meant scouring ebay and estate sales.
spook
Just out of curiosity, when did this happen? I think my memory has gone walk-abouts.
spookycc
Feb 20 2008, 09:53 AM
QUOTE (HelloBobby @ Feb 19 2008, 08:23 PM)

Boy you non shippers have been very busy since this thread started around noon. Why so paranoid?
I'm just lurking in this thread.

Hi, welcome, HelloBobby! Lurk or post, everyone is welcomed here!
QUOTE (SecretPhoenix @ Feb 20 2008, 03:44 AM)

Just out of curiosity, when did this happen? I think my memory has gone walk-abouts.
Vincent leaned against the desk in season 4-5 or 6 and the Santa mug fell off and broke.
Welcome to the thread SecretPhoenix! Visit and post all you want!
spook
spookycc
Feb 20 2008, 09:57 AM
QUOTE (KimberlyT @ Feb 20 2008, 12:14 AM)

#39. LOCI is after all a CRIME DRAMA, not a soap opera. The two most important detectives are partners not lovers. The show is centered on the crimes and the solving of the crimes. A touch of person info is cool...the two best detective "boining" is not necessary to the continued enjoyment of the program.
#40. Eames has dated, when she was on pregnancy leave. Bobby has dated, Irene for one. If I was IN LOVE with someone I wouldn't be dating someone else.
JMHO
Good points, KimT!
41. Bobby didn't use a key to get inside Eames' apartment in Blind Spot. I think he would rather face the funny look from Ross than watch them use a battering ram on her door.
42. Work partners often work together their entire careers without boinking. It happens!
43. See that look El gives Liv? YEP. Ever see THAT look between Bobby and Alex? NOPE. I'm not talking about smiling, KNOWING looks. I'm talking about sexually-tense looks like in the E/O sitting on the porch steps look.
spook
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