June911
Dec 20 2007, 09:01 PM
Several of us have had the same idea about a real concerted effort involving every 4400 fan GLOBALLY. So everyone let stand up and really be counted then if we have done our best to 'SAVE THE 4400" we never have to live with ifs and maybes.
I hope this is OK I've never done anything like this before but I feel a very deep passion for this show and had to do something to ward off my own ifs and maybes. Anyone with more experience with this kind of thing is truly welcome. I'm more a follower than a leader if you know what I mean.
We tried sunflower seeds, we tried letters so far USA has ignorred us. We have a major DVD effort in the works (fingers crossed everyone). What is definte to date is we have BOOKS coming thanks to CBS Paramount. I think if everyone buys the "4400" books we will not be ignorred!
Here's the list:
1. The 4400: The Vesuvius Prophecy (Tie-In Book) by Greg Cox OUT NOW IN BOOKSTORES
2. The 4400: Wetwork (Tie-In Book) by Dayton Ward & Kevin Dilmore UPCOMING OCT 28, 2008
3. Season 5 Book (No title yet) by Greg Cox UPCOMING
4. Season 5 Book (No title yet) by David Mack UPCOMING
Whether we get more be it books and/or TV depends on us. No one of us can do this alone. Making money is the major motivator for these Companies.
Bubba_Bridges
Dec 20 2007, 10:44 PM
Hi Bubba here, I'm like you June, I don't have enough experience in doing this but, I did ran across a couple of ideas that sounds like we sound try ...
QUOTE (amerirish @ Dec 20 2007, 05:23 PM)

Many fans have stated on the boards that they have been sending letters asking for a renewal and some even including sunflower seeds to USA over the last couple of months (I've sent letters and included a print out of our Petition thread most of the time). But I have a suggestion now that we have official news (horrible, rotten, disgusting news!) I think that a good idea may be to set a date and have ALL fans send a letter at the same time. Another poster earlier (bahmo, I think) that a running faucet is better than a dripping one, or something like that.
Let's pick a date, or several, in January and start mailing our letters in all at once. I think the effort is at least worth a stamp. What does everyone think?
BTW, the fact that sooo many new people have signed up here recently is also extremely encouraging to me.
QUOTE (Megan3375 @ Dec 20 2007, 06:25 PM)

USA Network
30 Rockefeller Plaza
21st Floor
New York, NY 10112
Here is the address. We need a way to make sur everyone is going to send a letter on Jan 2 I can gaurantee that I will, But with all of the new additions to the board and all the members that have been mia for a while... I think the name of this thread should get peoples attention but maybe we need to have some sort of pact thread were people will drop there names there if they are going to participate in the letter campaign! I really hope we can get everyone behind this movement and they get bombarded with our letters!
We can make this happen.
June911
Dec 21 2007, 01:43 AM
It seems another on the board believes letters won't make a drastic enough impact and truthfully I've been thinking along thhe same line. But tons of sunflower seeds might so we need everyone on the same page in this. I willing to send seeds on Jan 2.
Megan3375
Dec 21 2007, 03:14 AM
Yeah June I don't think that letters alone will make a big enough impact... On my quote in Bubba's post i kept saying letters but I was implying letters and seeds... When we first heard news of the possible cancellation back in aug or sept we started the seed idea and I went and bought a pound of seeds but to be honest I never got around to sending them so I still have them. I will DEFINATELY send them this time on JAN 2!!!! Everyone remember that day.
mickeysfriend
Dec 21 2007, 07:05 AM
I'm with you guys to send seeds but does anyone have the address that might have an impact....or maybe several addresses? There have been several added to several threads but what address should we use? I'm on board with the idea.
amerirish
Dec 21 2007, 09:14 AM
Ok everyone, on January 2, 2008 we all need to send a letter containing sunflower seeds to:
USA Network
30 Rockefeller Plaza
21st Floor
New York, NY 10112
Please, please, please - we need as many people to participate as possible!
Ellie42
Dec 21 2007, 11:55 AM
QUOTE (amerirish @ Dec 21 2007, 02:14 PM)

Ok everyone, on January 2, 2008 we all need to send a letter containing sunflower seeds to:
USA Network
30 Rockefeller Plaza
21st Floor
New York, NY 10112
Please, please, please - we need as many people to participate as possible!
I've made a Live Journal to spread the word, I completely support the Sunflower Seeds idea and I intend to send a LOT.
http://savethe4400.livejournal.com/If anyone can make icons, banners anything we can use the spread the word please do so.
I'm trying to get a website up as well, and I was thinking of making a MySpace/Facebook account also.
Any more ideas let me know and I'll sign up to those as well

I just joined this forum today and I think if a lot of people who've stayed quiet in the past but genuinely want to help the show they should speak now.
amerirish
Dec 21 2007, 11:57 AM
QUOTE (Ellie42 @ Dec 21 2007, 11:55 AM)

I've made a Live Journal to spread the word, I completely support the Sunflower Seeds idea and I intend to send a LOT.
http://savethe4400.livejournal.com/If anyone can make icons, banners anything we can use the spread the word please do so.
I'm trying to get a website up as well, and I was thinking of making a MySpace/Facebook account also.
Any more ideas let me know and I'll sign up to those as well

I just joined this forum today and I think if a lot of people who've stayed quiet in the past but genuinely want to help the show they should speak now.
This is fantastic Ellie!! Thank you so much for being so helpful & enthusiastic! I hope everyone gets on board with this idea. I believe our only real shot is to have tons of fans speak up.
Even if you don't want to send sunflower seeds, please at least send a letter. We need volume to get our message across.
Thanks Everyone!
Ellie42
Dec 21 2007, 12:02 PM
QUOTE (amerirish @ Dec 21 2007, 04:57 PM)

This is fantastic Ellie!! Thank you so much for being so helpful & enthusiastic! I hope everyone gets on board with this idea. I believe our only real shot is to have tons of fans speak up.
Even if you don't want to send sunflower seeds, please at least send a letter. We need volume to get our message across.
Thanks Everyone!
Thanks, I only found out today about the cancellation and I am absolutely gutted.
Things CAN happen (Jericho & Roswell), we just need to all do what we can to help.
SAVE THE 4400
Bubba_Bridges
Dec 21 2007, 12:06 PM
Hi Bubba here, thank you for doing this Ellie.

We need everyone to get behind this.
Pablo
Dec 21 2007, 12:22 PM
We (french fans) are with you !!!
We are already spreading the word for the 2nd Janurary !
We need to save 4400 people
There are "home made" videos on Youtube, Dailymotion and Google Video that can be used on blogs, websites to spread the information.
Here are a few links :
English :
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7291193382322004681Spanish :
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-911587593505959804French :
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3661573085933223211We need to be all together on that "BE POSITIVE" campaign !
Ellie42
Dec 21 2007, 12:37 PM
QUOTE (Pablo @ Dec 21 2007, 05:22 PM)

We (french fans) are with you !!!
We are already spreading the word for the 2nd Janurary !
We need to save 4400 people
There are "home made" videos on Youtube, Dailymotion and Google Video that can be used on blogs, websites to spread the information.
Here are a few links :
English :
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7291193382322004681Spanish :
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-911587593505959804French :
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3661573085933223211We need to be all together on that "BE POSITIVE" campaign !
The video is perfect, I was going to ask if anyone could do one to put on the sites!!
Also I've now set up a MySpace and I've sent a request to 'friend' some of the cast who have their own MySpace pages and hopefully they might even send some seeds!!! Fingers crossed.
http://myspace.com/savethe4400Also if anyone could help me embedding the video into the sites that'd be a big help as I'm not sure how to do that yet
Pablo
Dec 21 2007, 01:26 PM
QUOTE (Ellie42 @ Dec 21 2007, 12:37 PM)

(...) Also if anyone could help me embedding the video into the sites that'd be a big help as I'm not sure how to do that yet

Here are the html codes to embed the videos :
English :
<embed style="width:400px; height:326px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-7291193382322004681&hl=en" flashvars=""> </embed>
Spanish :
<embed style="width:400px; height:326px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-911587593505959804&hl=en" flashvars=""> </embed>
French :
<embed style="width:400px; height:326px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-3661573085933223211&hl=en" flashvars=""> </embed>
Ellie42
Dec 21 2007, 01:41 PM
QUOTE (Pablo @ Dec 21 2007, 06:26 PM)

Here are the html codes to embed the videos :
English :
<embed style="width:400px; height:326px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-7291193382322004681&hl=en" flashvars=""> </embed>
Spanish :
<embed style="width:400px; height:326px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-911587593505959804&hl=en" flashvars=""> </embed>
French :
<embed style="width:400px; height:326px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-3661573085933223211&hl=en" flashvars=""> </embed>
Thanks for that, I've added it now - I still need to play around with the layouts but for now they'll do.
I was just reading about Jericho, apparantly they sent 20 tons of nuts

I hope we can manage this!
Margg
Dec 21 2007, 01:44 PM
Hey! I think this is a great idea. I'm in! It might also be helpful to print out the petition and mail it in with the letter and seeds during that week!
amerirish
Dec 21 2007, 01:53 PM
QUOTE (Margg @ Dec 21 2007, 01:44 PM)

Hey! I think this is a great idea. I'm in! It might also be helpful to print out the petition and mail it in with the letter and seeds during that week!

I totally agree and was planning on doing the same. In my previous letters for the last couple of months (asking for a renewal) I would periodically print out the petition and include it in the envelope.
Another poster (EasyMac, I think) also came up with this image. I would print it on the bottom corner of my letters:
evenstar22
Dec 21 2007, 02:36 PM
great idea, but about the date send it that day or send it now so that it arrives then coz for me it willl be impossible ,the mail from france and french territories takes forever to get there up to 2weeks sometimes , i hav e a friend in florida and everytime i'm like u havent gotten my letter yet?
anyway i have the adresss and will print tons of my posts her on the forum and let them know "why are u trying to break my achy breaky heart" lol!
amerirish
Dec 21 2007, 02:40 PM
I think we are all going to mail on the 2nd. Figure it this way: the US letters will probably arrive on the 3rd or 4th, then the overseas letters will arrive all at once too.
Personally, I'm sticking with the letter-a-day for a week idea so its no problem. All that matters is that you write a letter to make them hear your voice!
Ellie42
Dec 21 2007, 02:53 PM
QUOTE (amerirish @ Dec 21 2007, 07:40 PM)

I think we are all going to mail on the 2nd. Figure it this way: the US letters will probably arrive on the 3rd or 4th, then the overseas letters will arrive all at once too.
Personally, I'm sticking with the letter-a-day for a week idea so its no problem. All that matters is that you write a letter to make them hear your voice!

I agree, I think it is best to aim for a specific date otherwise it might not make as much impact, like you said the letters from the US take a few days, usually from the UK it takes 5-7 days and say 14 days for all the other countries, it'll keep the momentum going for a while.
And I think the one-a-day for a week is best as well.
I've just been reading about Journeyman (which was also cancelled) and the fans are doing their own campaign as well to the same place we have to send ours, so we need to make sure we make an impact, we don't want it overshadowed!!
Midaz101
Dec 21 2007, 04:03 PM
It is great to see that people doing everything possible to help the show continue in the air, i love the show and i will also o my part to help out. In retrospect it is pretty pathetic how the USA Network let the show die like this, i don't know about you but i before 3 months ago, i had never even heard about the 4400, heck, i found out about it when i left the country in vacation, since then i have bought the 3 seasons in dvd and watched them and thanks to the magic of the DVR i've gotten to see all of season 4, regardless of this, i feel that the cancellation was uncalled for, specially since they don't seem to advertise any other show outside of Monk and Psych, LOL, in all honesty i don't even know about any other original show the network has. Anyways I will be hear doing my part in all the necessary efforts to help the 4400 get another season.
Midaz101
Dec 21 2007, 04:07 PM
I forgot to add, i think we should send the letters with the sunflower seeds twice a week, i think it will make a greater impact.
Pablo
Dec 21 2007, 04:19 PM
QUOTE (Midaz101 @ Dec 21 2007, 04:03 PM)

(...) In retrospect it is pretty pathetic how the USA Network let the show die like this, i don't know about you but i before 3 months ago, i had never even heard about the 4400, heck, i found out about it when i left the country in vacation, (...)
We have to change this !
Be Postive : 2nd Januray must be the D day !!!
Midaz101
Dec 21 2007, 04:28 PM
QUOTE (Pablo @ Dec 21 2007, 04:19 PM)

We have to change this !
Be Postive : 2nd Januray must be the D day !!!
Ohh no, i am positive i already helped one show avoid the axe (Jericho) and i am more than ready to do my part, i was just stating the facts.
June911
Dec 21 2007, 07:35 PM
I have never been outside the USA so I know nothing of customs. Can other countries send items like sunflower seeds through the mail? If not, I know there are US-based Online companies you can order from and send to whoever you want.
Anyone know about this? All these possible problems need to be worked out before our D-Day, January 2, 2008.
Megan3375
Dec 21 2007, 08:08 PM
QUOTE (Midaz101 @ Dec 21 2007, 04:07 PM)

I forgot to add, i think we should send the letters with the sunflower seeds twice a week, i think it will make a greater impact.
I along with a few others so far have said that we should send a letter w/ seed every day for a weeek straight.... Is this what you meant above???
Megan3375
Dec 21 2007, 08:27 PM
Also I have seen someone mention the name Bonnie Hammer, I guess when the letter are sent they should be addressed to this name or the letter heads should include this name if anyone knows more about this could they please clarify for everyone? Thanks
Alablast
Dec 21 2007, 10:07 PM
I'm curious about why we choose Sunflower seeds to send. To me it seems to tie in with one of the 4400 in season 1, who was killed off early (so it seems to fit) but I'd like to know if that was the reason or if there was something else that I'd missed. Just wondering as to the reasoning behind it. I think it's a great idea, and I think it'll get the attention of the higher ups, and I'll be sending my letter, but I'd like to know why I'm sending a sunflower seed too.
June911
Dec 21 2007, 10:11 PM
QUOTE (Alablast @ Dec 21 2007, 10:07 PM)

I'm curious about why we choose Sunflower seeds to send. To me it seems to tie in with one of the 4400 in season 1, who was killed off early (so it seems to fit) but I'd like to know if that was the reason or if there was something else that I'd missed. Just wondering as to the reasoning behind it. I think it's a great idea, and I think it'll get the attention of the higher ups, and I'll be sending my letter, but I'd like to know why I'm sending a sunflower seed too.

It's the lovable Dr. Kevin Burkhoff favorite snack.
Alablast
Dec 21 2007, 10:15 PM
QUOTE (June911 @ Dec 21 2007, 10:11 PM)

It's the lovable Dr. Kevin Burkhoff favorite snack.
Aah, I totally missed that. x_x And here I thought I was a die-hard 4400 fan.
amerirish
Dec 22 2007, 02:29 AM
QUOTE (Alablast @ Dec 21 2007, 10:15 PM)

Aah, I totally missed that. x_x And here I thought I was a die-hard 4400 fan.

I'm sure you are a die hard fan, which is why you're here right now

on the boards trying to help save the show.
Season 4: Jordan kidnaps Kevin Berkoff in order to stop his development of the "corpus collosum" / CAT SCAN test. Shawn and several P+'ers rescue him. Kevin says '....they wouldn't give me any sunflower seeds! I found that agitating' {paraphrasing}. That's where the sunflower seed idea came from.
As long as you write your letter and mail it on January 2nd, your voice will be heard!
Megan3375
Dec 22 2007, 04:23 AM
It has been a while since I took a web designing class (high school) so I wouldn't know where to start with that but I posted this on my myspace page I hope it helps
So I am so bummed... My most favorite show in the world has just been cancelled.. The 4400! I don't think I can live. Us fans have been waiting since October to hear if it was going to be picked up again and they decide to break the news one week before Christmas what a bummer!! I don't know if anyone reading this is a fan but if so we are starting a campaign to try to save the show if you are and you want to help we are going to send letters stating how we feel and a lb. of sunflower seeds (one of the characters fav. snacks) to the USA Network on Jan 2. 2008 and keep sending letters with seeds for a week straight after the 2cd. the address is
attention: Bonnie Hammer
USA Network
30 Rockefeller Plaza
21st Floor
New York, NY 10112
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[color="#0000ff"]Even if you aren't a fan and u are just a fan of me (j/k) u should send some it would really help us out!!!
Thanks!!
I hope people read this!!
Bubba_Bridges
Dec 22 2007, 07:08 AM
Hi Bubba here, I was wondering if we could get this thread pinned at the top.
Ellie42
Dec 22 2007, 08:28 AM
I agree, and keep all discussions together.
I have updated the LJ page with some banners to use.
http://savethe4400.livejournal.com/I'm also getting a few friends on the MySpace - if you know anyone who has an account get them involved.
http://myspace.com/savethe4400I have also purchased the domain www.savethe4400.net and will be uploading a site very shortly.
Does anyone have any ideas for the site? should we start a new petition for people to print off or should I just link to the one in the other thread?
Also is the nutsonline website going to be the only one used as I can add it as a link?
Finally there is some discussion of people sending green glow-sticks as well, I personally am going to stick with the seeds though, any thoughts?
Spread the seed people

Anyway I'll stop talking now!
Kizzy
Dec 22 2007, 08:48 AM
International pepole order your seeds online. This place was posted on another thread.
http://www.nutsonline.com they can send them directly and they arrive next day. Which means should arrive internationally at the same time as the US letters. Would be an effective idea. i will post the link on the MY space page and on my facebook. is there anyone who has started a facebook group yet? If not I will.
Ellie42
Dec 22 2007, 08:56 AM
QUOTE (Kizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 01:48 PM)

International pepole order your seeds online. This place was posted on another thread.
http://www.nutsonline.com they can send them directly and they arrive next day. Which means should arrive internationally at the same time as the US letters. Would be an effective idea. i will post the link on the MY space page and on my facebook. is there anyone who has started a facebook group yet? If not I will.
Yes I did one yesterday:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1069485156But I'm not very good at using it!
Bubba_Bridges
Dec 22 2007, 09:02 AM
Ellie42
Dec 22 2007, 09:04 AM
QUOTE (Bubba_Bridges @ Dec 22 2007, 02:02 PM)

Not at all.
FYI I've also set up a Bebo page now (I'm trying everything):
http://www.bebo.com/PromiseCStill editing that though.
Kizzy
Dec 22 2007, 09:10 AM
Here is a group someone already started. have been posting and uploading to it. Let us promote it so Facebook people can all join.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8489427326Even if you only create an account to support this group please join.
Ellie42
Dec 22 2007, 09:20 AM
Found this at nutsonline:
http://www.nutsonline.com/jerichoMaybe that's what we all should be doing instead of posting??
We only need 4,000 order!!
Midaz101
Dec 22 2007, 09:49 AM
QUOTE (June911 @ Dec 21 2007, 07:35 PM)

I have never been outside the USA so I know nothing of customs. Can other countries send items like sunflower seeds through the mail? If not, I know there are US-based Online companies you can order from and send to whoever you want.
Anyone know about this? All these possible problems need to be worked out before our D-Day, January 2, 2008.
Yes, that is exactly what i meant to say.
Kizzy
Dec 22 2007, 07:43 PM
WITH NUTSONLINE YOU NEED TO PUT A TELEPHONE NUMBER USE: 212-664-4444 but so far I can't ship from abroad. If i use google checkout it won't ship to that address and if I use standard checkout, it requires a state on my billing address. So I am stumped. Hopefully nutsonline will sort something out. perhaps if they took paypal people could order from abroad. Could we perhaps petition them to set up a paypal account to accept orders from abroad? Or at least for them to accept the address through google checkout. At least i checked it out before the d-day....
June911
Dec 23 2007, 01:06 PM
Important News!!! I just received this email from NutsOnline so I'm now checking with
http://www.metrocandy.com/ they are a Bulk seller. I'm hoping they can help with this effort.
I wish we could help support the save 4400 campaign. Unfortunately, we are still recovering from the Jericho campaign and we can't really afford to run another campaign. I am really sorry and wish you the best of luck.
Have a great day!
~David
amerirish
Dec 24 2007, 03:56 AM
Ok so easy solution...go to your local grocery store & buy sunflower seeds! Or else, just write a letter to USA....
Come on...no excuses! Write letters folks! Save our show!
Muldfeld
Dec 24 2007, 05:09 AM
http://www.the4400guide.com is the only consistently up to date site I've seen. Of critical impotance is making sure the letters reach Bonnie Hammer, president of USA, and maybe Jeff Wachtel also. Otherwise someone unimportant might only read them.
I think a major problem is USA failing to use the power of NBC Universal to advertize the show. NBC and Universal Media have merged, and bought up USA and Sci Fi a few years ago. USA's Monk's cast appear on shows like Conan, but I've never seen a single brilliant actor for The 4400 or Battlestar Galactica (except Tricia Helfer because she was a model) on Leno or Conan. If they like something they endorse a show. They've never seen these shows, and assume they're the usual sci fi based on ads. If they realized they were politically-insightful, they might appreciate the uniqueness of these shows instead of just advertizing "Heroes."
As an example I'd use the ending of Season 3 or the last half of Season 4 for The 4400. BSG is great from the start. I've sent e-mails but they don't get to them. We need fan mail addresses for the influential people in Hollywood to make this work! USA is letting it die because they don't care about it enough to promote it intelligently. Let's face it, most sci fi sucks. We have to let influential people know why this is different and very politically-relevant. I saw Brad Pitt talking the other day on Charlie Rose (PBS) and Larry King about there being an underclass in the US whose interests aren't acknowledged by this government. That's the entire essence of what Joran Collier was doing -- empowering the powerless and standing up for them. The underclass or powerless are those whom the Marked are against.
The right people need to know about this show -- not just about it's special effects, time travel and other sci fi setting elements, but the thematic essence of the show!
Pablo
Dec 24 2007, 10:52 AM
I will try to contact Jaqueline by her website but how for the other ones ?
Ellie42
Dec 24 2007, 02:01 PM
QUOTE (Pablo @ Dec 24 2007, 03:52 PM)

I will try to contact Jaqueline by her website but how for the other ones ?
I tried to friend her on MySpace but she hasn't accepted yet, the only other person I can find is Kaj Erickson but he hasn't accepted either
cometcowboy
Dec 25 2007, 07:30 AM
I just wanted you guys to know that I am with you till the end. I will send letters, and do anything it takes.
We will bring the show back!
medusan
Dec 25 2007, 06:37 PM
I'm in. I live in Canada, so my post may arrive a few weeks after January 2nd.
Lets hope this works! Even a 5 episode season is enough to please me. It just can't end at the beginning of something big!
I wonder how many seasons were planned? This could take years to get another season, but I can wait. I just need closure on what happens to the 4400, P+ peeps and Promise City. They worked so hard, do they win or are they taken out by the future? I hate being left like this to decide!
June911
Dec 26 2007, 07:35 AM
International Members Please Read!
Here's one more place that sell nothing but varieties of Sunflower seeds. This one I'm hoping will work for our International members because they accept PayPal which I believe someone asked about but only ship to US addresses which no problem. Please let us know if this works for Non-US members.
http://giantseeds.com/index.htmlGiant Interactive Sales LLC.
721 Oak St.
Breckenridge, MN. 56520
Phone: 888 208 1909
Email: info@giantseeds.com
amerirish
Dec 26 2007, 02:39 PM
Thats a good find June!
However, unless folks are going to have the seeds shipped directly to USA, do you think there's time to place an order online? Personally, I am going to the supermarket and buying a big old bag of sunflower seeds & mailing them with my letter.
Oh, btw....are people sending the seeds loose in the envelope or in packages? I've never done this kind of thing before so I don't know how exactly it works.
Thanks
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