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dannyraphael
QUOTE (JanxAngel @ Jan 7 2008, 03:05 PM) *
I'm an avid Photoshop user (CS3), but have not used Painter at all. Is it difficult to pick up?
For an avid CS3 user IMO it would not be difficult to pick up Painter from an architectural perspective, as there are many similarities -- in fact Corel continues to add features to make Painter "more PS-like." (About 80% of Painter owners also use PS.)

Similarities:
* Some palettes in common, e.g., layers, tools, brushes, etc.
* Within Painter the tools palette has many familiar tools, e.g., brush, crop, zoom, move, etc.
* Painter supports layer masks and most blend modes (normal, darken, screen, overlay, etc.)
* Painter is able to use many 3rd party PS plugins
* Ability to apply digital texture-like effects, e.g., canvas, watercolor paper, etc.

There's a lot of functional overlap. Each has its own strengths. Painter's are its brush engine and associated options (it's like the PS brush engine on a boatload of steroids) and texture/pattern options/possibilities.

A very common practice is to open an image in PS, do some prelim work, close. Open in Painter, do Painter thing, close. Reopen in PS for finish-up & print.

The challenge of learning Painter is getting familiar with terminology differences / operational nuances between it and PS and figuring out which brushes to use when. (Over 700 brush variants installed by default; boatloads of custom brushes available on the net.) Using a cooking metaphore it's kind of like an accomplished American chef walking into a kitchen stocked with 700+ new spices which are labeled in French. Most of the pots/pans work the same way, but figuring out cupboard of new spices (what they are, how to use them) takes time.

Digital tablet highly recommended. Traditional drawing / painting / sketching skills very helpful, but not an absolute requirement.

It would be tempting for one who is CS knowledgeable to try to "self learn" Painter, but I would not recommend that. Good overview/basics online courses at venues like www.eclecticademy.com. (I am not affiliated with this site.) Great content; cheap ($25) for well organized, content rich six week classes.

Anyway... my .02. HTH.

Since this little sidetrack is pretty far OT for this forum, feel free to e-mail me at dannyraphael at yahoo dot com if you'd like to continue the q/a. This -- and watching LAOCI smile.gif - is my hobby and I could go on ad nauseum.
detectiveB
QUOTE (chimera @ Jan 8 2008, 04:21 AM) *



O MY GOD!!SCARY!! blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif
Shauna
QUOTE (locifanz @ Jan 5 2008, 06:50 PM) *
I like your banners. Shauna. Well done.


thank you! I will probably make more graphics this weekend. My time is limited during the week due to working full time, and i'm just never in the mood to open photoshop when i get home hahaha
DefenderOfMen

I made this on a whim.
JanxAngel
QUOTE (DefenderOfMen @ Jan 9 2008, 03:20 PM) *

I made this on a whim.


I saw it in your sig before I came here, but nice work indeed.
DefenderOfMen
QUOTE (JanxAngel @ Jan 9 2008, 02:07 PM) *
I saw it in your sig before I came here, but nice work indeed.

Thanks Janx!
detectiveB
QUOTE (DefenderOfMen @ Jan 9 2008, 09:20 PM) *

I made this on a whim.



That is a very smart idea!!
I will inform my security crew,on the ship,to buy a ton..no better make it two tons of that!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
KimberlyTaylor
QUOTE (jcsavestheday @ Nov 9 2007, 12:58 AM) *






not ci, but still cool:



Beautiful pic of those gorgeous eyes! *thump...the floor...again, sigh* rolleyes.gif Kim (ps, nice pic of Elliot too, hmm)



QUOTE (detectiveB @ Jan 9 2008, 05:14 PM) *
That is a very smart idea!!
I will inform my security crew,on the ship,to buy a ton..no better make it two tons of that!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


Wait...didn't I see some of those hanging outside the library doors? May have to use them on myself, to cool me off, after watching that Goren dance! blink.gif
Epic
OK, I made this wallpaper just by collecting a lot of pictures and pushing them together.. I do that with any and every show....its fun.. but I realzed that I had more Goren and Logan than Ross... you guys are getting me to fall in love with Goren....and I love it....



DefenderOfMen
QUOTE (detectiveB @ Jan 9 2008, 03:14 PM) *
That is a very smart idea!!
I will inform my security crew,on the ship,to buy a ton..no better make it two tons of that!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


Thanks! I got the idea from ciaddict when she mentioned that PHW pics should come with a fire extiguisher.

They need to be standard issue on every ship. We have a pool I jump into if flames become to big to control. Why else do you think we have Mikey as our pool boy? I mean besides the plaid shorts. wink.gif
detectiveB
QUOTE (DefenderOfMen @ Jan 12 2008, 01:28 AM) *
Thanks! I got the idea from ciaddict when she mentioned that PHW pics should come with a fire extiguisher.

They need to be standard issue on every ship. We have a pool I jump into if flames become to big to control. Why else do you think we have Mikey as our pool boy? I mean besides the plaid shorts. wink.gif


Exacly!!Ah,that Mike,I guess he is doing a gret job as a pool boy!?
detectiveB
QUOTE (Epic @ Jan 10 2008, 02:42 AM) *
OK, I made this wallpaper just by collecting a lot of pictures and pushing them together.. I do that with any and every show....its fun.. but I realzed that I had more Goren and Logan than Ross... you guys are getting me to fall in love with Goren....and I love it....





The super wrekcing crew of detectives of L&O CI!They walk,talk,smile,eat,pose,chitchat,ask questions and get in the face of the enemys!!
chimera
QUOTE (DefenderOfMen @ Jan 9 2008, 03:20 PM) *

I made this on a whim.


We need a shipment of these for Twilight Isle, too! May Mr. Rourke send over the zodiac?



This is a strike beard, growing longer as the strike drags on. Sigh.
chimera
How come some pictures have been replaced by red x?
Jryan
QUOTE (chimera @ Jan 12 2008, 03:07 PM) *
We need a shipment of these for Twilight Isle, too! May Mr. Rourke send over the zodiac?



This is a strike beard, growing longer as the strike drags on. Sigh.


hey when he shaves save that, I need some brillo pads.
ciaddict
QUOTE (DefenderOfMen @ Jan 9 2008, 12:20 PM) *

I made this on a whim.


I don't remember if I thanked you, Defender. So thank you very much. I have put it to use over on the Is Vincent Hot thread. I'll be needing it for the Is Chris Hot thread, too. I think I'll mosey on over there now. Oh, I've been thinking maybe I need a helmet as well, for all the thudding. I'll ask Judy where she got Valley's helmet--it seems to be quite sturdy.
chimera
QUOTE (Jryan @ Jan 12 2008, 04:27 PM) *
hey when he shaves save that, I need some brillo pads.


smile
chimera


here are my strike signs
detectiveB
QUOTE (chimera @ Jan 12 2008, 10:07 PM) *
We need a shipment of these for Twilight Isle, too! May Mr. Rourke send over the zodiac?



This is a strike beard, growing longer as the strike drags on. Sigh.


O MY!! blink.gif blink.gif
Maybe I can braid the beard!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
ciaddict
I sure hope the strike ends soon. That beard is SCARY!
chimera
QUOTE (detectiveB @ Jan 13 2008, 07:49 AM) *
O MY!! blink.gif blink.gif
Maybe I can braid the beard!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


you can carefully untangle it with you softly searching fingers, I can't because my claws get snagged, wah. Lucky you are so dedicated to sooth and smooth him for me!

QUOTE (ciaddict @ Jan 13 2008, 09:21 PM) *
I sure hope the strike ends soon. That beard is SCARY!


Yes! Too awful for poor VDO/Goren. It's just too sad.

Here are two more strike signs I made.
detectiveB
QUOTE (chimera @ Jan 14 2008, 05:14 AM) *
you can carefully untangle it with you softly searching fingers, I can't because my claws get snagged, wah. Lucky you are so dedicated to sooth and smooth him for me!



Yes! Too awful for poor VDO/Goren. It's just too sad.

Here are two more strike signs I made.


O YES,I CAN!! laugh.gif cool.gif tongue.gif
My fingers are long and flexi enaf!!I will bring two combs,a small bottle with a spary on cap;filled with Evian water!!
DefenderOfMen
QUOTE (chimera @ Jan 12 2008, 02:07 PM) *
We need a shipment of these for Twilight Isle, too! May Mr. Rourke send over the zodiac?



This is a strike beard, growing longer as the strike drags on. Sigh.



QUOTE (ciaddict @ Jan 12 2008, 06:02 PM) *
I don't remember if I thanked you, Defender. So thank you very much. I have put it to use over on the Is Vincent Hot thread. I'll be needing it for the Is Chris Hot thread, too. I think I'll mosey on over there now. Oh, I've been thinking maybe I need a helmet as well, for all the thudding. I'll ask Judy where she got Valley's helmet--it seems to be quite sturdy.



I'm glad that the extiguisher could be useful. You all can use them as much as you like. biggrin.gif

I really hope the strike ends soon or that beard is going to be swallowing people like the Blob. wink.gif I like the strike banners too.
Meerkat
QUOTE (chimera @ Jan 12 2008, 04:10 PM) *
How come some pictures have been replaced by red x?


It means the picture file is not at the location the path is pointing to.
The path may be wrong, or the file may have been deleted or moved.
jcsavestheday
QUOTE (Meerkat @ Jan 14 2008, 08:08 PM) *
It means the picture file is not at the location the path is pointing to.
The path may be wrong, or the file may have been deleted or moved.



and sometimes file hosting sites have bandwidth limits. If an image/file has a lot of hits within a certain period of time, it is in accessable for a duration (such as a couple of hours or a day).
DefenderOfMen
I finally finished my Ross avatar for WGA. All you Ross fans, enjoy.

chimera
QUOTE (DefenderOfMen @ Jan 14 2008, 02:02 PM) *
I'm glad that the extiguisher could be useful. You all can use them as much as you like. biggrin.gif

I really hope the strike ends soon or that beard is going to be swallowing people like the Blob. wink.gif I like the strike banners too.


thank you for the extinguishers. I hope the strike ends soon too, for all our sakes. sad.gif Thanks for appreciating the strike banners.


QUOTE (Meerkat @ Jan 14 2008, 09:08 PM) *
It means the picture file is not at the location the path is pointing to.
The path may be wrong, or the file may have been deleted or moved.


thank you


QUOTE (jcsavestheday @ Jan 14 2008, 11:03 PM) *
and sometimes file hosting sites have bandwidth limits. If an image/file has a lot of hits within a certain period of time, it is in accessable for a duration (such as a couple of hours or a day).


who knew?

QUOTE (DefenderOfMen @ Jan 15 2008, 09:24 PM) *
I finally finished my Ross avatar for WGA. All you Ross fans, enjoy.



Thanks, Defender. The more I learn about Bagosian, the better I like him.
jcsavestheday
I <3 Eric Bogosian, and I <3 that strike image.
DefenderOfMen
QUOTE (chimera @ Jan 15 2008, 09:58 PM) *
thank you for the extinguishers. I hope the strike ends soon too, for all our sakes. sad.gif Thanks for appreciating the strike banners.



Thanks, Defender. The more I learn about Bagosian, the better I like him.

Your welcome! I hope the strike ends before I lose my mind! Well, more than usual.

QUOTE (jcsavestheday @ Jan 15 2008, 09:59 PM) *
I <3 Eric Bogosian, and I <3 that strike image.

Thanks jc! I didn't know you liked Eric. You learn something new everyday.
DefenderOfMen
Okay, in the strictest sense she's not going to act anything on CI unless the writers bring her back but I know there are Barek fan out there (like me).


I'm working on Wheeler and Deakins. I might get around to Falacci and Carver and Rodgers.

EDIT: And while I was looking for pics of Wheeler and Deakins I came upon this pic and got a really strange idea.
chimera
QUOTE (DefenderOfMen @ Jan 16 2008, 11:38 PM) *
Okay, in the strictest sense she's not going to act anything on CI unless the writers bring her back but I know there are Barek fan out there (like me).


I'm working on Wheeler and Deakins. I might get around to Falacci and Carver and Rodgers.

EDIT: And while I was looking for pics of Wheeler and Deakins I came upon this pic and got a really strange idea.


bwa ha ha! hope you put it on the tie clip thread

I'm glad you're working on more of the characters. They are an emsemble, God bless em.
LOCIFan87
QUOTE (DefenderOfMen @ Jan 16 2008, 08:38 PM) *
Okay, in the strictest sense she's not going to act anything on CI unless the writers bring her back but I know there are Barek fan out there (like me).


I'm working on Wheeler and Deakins. I might get around to Falacci and Carver and Rodgers.

EDIT: And while I was looking for pics of Wheeler and Deakins I came upon this pic and got a really strange idea.


ROFL about the tip clips! Love the new work! Very nice work DefenderofMen! smile.gif
DefenderOfMen
QUOTE (chimera @ Jan 16 2008, 10:44 PM) *
bwa ha ha! hope you put it on the tie clip thread

I'm glad you're working on more of the characters. They are an emsemble, God bless em.



QUOTE (LOCIFan87 @ Jan 17 2008, 11:16 AM) *
ROFL about the tip clips! Love the new work! Very nice work DefenderofMen! smile.gif

Thank you very much!

EDIT: Here's Wheeler's!
hotaru
QUOTE (DefenderOfMen @ Jan 16 2008, 11:38 PM) *
EDIT: And while I was looking for pics of Wheeler and Deakins I came upon this pic and got a really strange idea.



this is priceless! i love it! hehe
DefenderOfMen
QUOTE (hotaru @ Jan 18 2008, 02:53 PM) *
this is priceless! i love it! hehe

Glad you like it!

Here's a WGA icon for Deakins.


I can't seem to stop myself...
hotaru
QUOTE (DefenderOfMen @ Jan 18 2008, 07:01 PM) *
Glad you like it!

Here's a WGA icon for Deakins.


I can't seem to stop myself...


lol!! i love it! keep them coming! ^_~
jcsavestheday
Deakins is so cute...
DefenderOfMen
Here's Falacci:
jcsavestheday
QUOTE (DefenderOfMen @ Jan 21 2008, 09:47 PM) *
Here's Falacci:



how do you do those backgrounds that you put in your stuff?
DefenderOfMen
QUOTE (jcsavestheday @ Jan 21 2008, 09:00 PM) *
how do you do those backgrounds that you put in your stuff?

It's something new I'm trying. I use a square paint brush and use it like a stamp on a blank layer. I then adjust the opacity so you can still see through it but get the fun blocks still there.

I think I have a serious addiction. I just finished Carver too. (Granted, I started Falacci's a few days ago and put the finishing touches on it today.)

LOCIFan87
What programme are you using DefenderofMen? Photoshop?
DefenderOfMen
QUOTE (LOCIFan87 @ Jan 22 2008, 09:36 AM) *
What programme are you using DefenderofMen? Photoshop?

Yup. I do use Adobe Photoshop.
hullbound
yeah, that photoshop is adictive. I get on there and can't stop myself LOL.

DefenderOfMen
QUOTE (hullbound @ Jan 22 2008, 09:51 AM) *
yeah, that photoshop is adictive. I get on there and can't stop myself LOL.


That's pretty cool! I swear I had to tear myself away from the computer last night so I could get some sleep.
LOCIFan87
QUOTE (DefenderOfMen @ Jan 22 2008, 08:37 AM) *
Yup. I do use Adobe Photoshop.


Is there a book or tutorial you could recommend for a new user? I would like to make a siggie, but I don't have any clue where to start. I use Photoshop for editing my photos - but that's about it. unsure.gif

Thanks!
hullbound
QUOTE (DefenderOfMen @ Jan 22 2008, 11:58 AM) *
That's pretty cool! I swear I had to tear myself away from the computer last night so I could get some sleep.


Time flies when you are using it. That's for sure.


QUOTE (LOCIFan87 @ Jan 22 2008, 12:34 PM) *
Is there a book or tutorial you could recommend for a new user? I would like to make a siggie, but I don't have any clue where to start. I use Photoshop for editing my photos - but that's about it. unsure.gif

Thanks!


If you don't have the book, I imagine you could find something on line.
DefenderOfMen
QUOTE (LOCIFan87 @ Jan 22 2008, 10:34 AM) *
Is there a book or tutorial you could recommend for a new user? I would like to make a siggie, but I don't have any clue where to start. I use Photoshop for editing my photos - but that's about it. unsure.gif

Thanks!

I used a book about Adobe I found for ideas. I'll do some research on websites for tutorials and get back to you.
JanxAngel
QUOTE (DefenderOfMen @ Jan 22 2008, 11:58 AM) *
That's pretty cool! I swear I had to tear myself away from the computer last night so I could get some sleep.


I've had that happen to me.

2pm - open Photoshop
2am - realize Holy Crap it's 2AM! I'll go to bed right after I finish this spot.
3:30am - Dang I thought I was going to go to bed over an hour ago... I'll just rename and save these files.
4am - Ok I'm really going to bed RIGHT NOW.
4:15am - Wake up on desk. Go to bed.
LOCIFan87
QUOTE (DefenderOfMen @ Jan 22 2008, 11:54 AM) *
I used a book about Adobe I found for ideas. I'll do some research on websites for tutorials and get back to you.


Thank you! I would greatly appreciate it. There are soooo many books & websites out there. I would just like to buy one or two really good books or find a good site with tutorials and go from there. smile.gif I found a good website with photoshop actions that you can download for free. I have only used a couple of them (antiquing a photo & selective colour). If you are interested in it, let me know and I will post the link to the site when I get home from work later on this evening. smile.gif
Jryan
QUOTE (hullbound @ Jan 22 2008, 01:10 PM) *
Time flies when you are using it. That's for sure.




If you don't have the book, I imagine you could find something on line.



They probably have one of those For dummies books, thats what I need.
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