I'm starting a fan club for Danny Ross. I know that there may only be two or three members, but I think that Ross needs some love (just not from Eames ).

I dunno... ...I'm trying to be faithful to BG (Big Guy)...(notwithstanding my increasing obsession with plaid ties)...Will you have elections? (I nominate me for Media Affairs Officer--no experience, just, well, you know... ) What's your Mission Statement? How often will we meet? Any dues? Will we have a dress code? (I vote for Rule #77 ) Questions...questions...

Where are these so called rules (such as rule 76)?

C'mon people...where's the love?

LOL, where have I been? I never knew Ross's first name was Dan. I grew up with a Danny Ross! I think Eric is trying to develop the character, I want to give him more time, but, personally, I stick with my assessment that Capt.Ross needs more depth.

another club? I probably won't join.

I'm in! I love Ross. I think they are trying to give him more depth. We have heard that he is divorced, we've seen is sons, we know that the older one is sexually active. Boy, my heart went out to him on that one. I think finding out your 15 y/o is sexually active is about as devastating as it gets. But it seemed off that he didn't know what to say to his son. I said in another thread that if he doesn't know what to say, he should call me. I have some suggestions for him. But most of all, don't ask those jerks you play poker with anymore personal questions!

Please I will join, but no Rules, I can't remember rules. What is rule #76 again? or even #77, If I have to remember rules, I am out of here. If detNat is out for sure I am in!

Yeah, if there are 77 rules I'll never last. Will there be a secret handshake? Or will we all have to be "reductive" (episode "Privilege")? If so, I'll be kicked out at the first meeting. If you want to make a short story long, just have me tell it! Hmm...wonder what the opposite of reductive is? My brain doesn't seem to be working, I'll need to haul out the Webster's.

There's no secret handshake, per se....we all bend to the side, flail our hands, wag our index finger, and then cross our arms upon greeting one another....

Your thinking Bobby's fan club. Not sure for Ross what do we do? Call everyone Your partner? Never use names?

True- oops, my bad....For Danny's fan club we can walk around with our hands in our pockets, just nodding our heads and chewing gum...

Danny Ross Fan Club Official Greeting: Put hands in pockets, stare intently, point, make a strong, unecessary point, fold arms, walk away.

and eat in the cafeteria with your detectives, seems thats been happening the last two episodes.

excessive, I know.

Not from me if I were on the show, for sure! You know Ross has the hotties for Eames, don't deny it girl! LOL!

I can't see it. No matter how hard I try. Perhaps if you gave me something concrete that I could go back and look up. I just can't see it. I could see a Logan Eames ship before I'd ever see her ship with Ross.

I want you to watch The War at Home, you'll see how Ross gives her the concerned look.

oh...a concerned look. So I guess that Bobby must want to get with her, too. Because he has given her a few concerned looks...

Don't shoot me, but I can absolutely see Eames and Ross having a fling.

OOOO! Somebody load the gun. LOL!

Its funny how everyone keeps saying how Ross has the hots for eames, yet no one can give a concrete reason why. I'm going to break down and buy TWAH on Amazon. I'm going to be t'd if I spend my money on that smoo and I don't see anything.

I'm going to beat my favorite at least ailing horse.

I think Ross' relationship with Goren and Eames is paralleling Deakins' relationship with them. If you watch the first two seasons of LOCI, I think you can see that Deakins is initially skeptical of Goren's methods and very protective of Eames. As Deakins learns that he can trust both detectives, he becomes much more of a supporter and advocate for them both. He always remains somewhat protective of Eames, but he also becomes more protective of Goren. The relationship changes to such a point that when Deakins involuntarily leaves the NYPD he is far more concerned about what Goren and Eames think about him than he is about anyone else in the department. I also think Goren and Eames may have saved James Deakins' soul in a way. He was on his way to being a political animal, perhaps willing to make some awful compromises, but his contact with Goren and Eames kept him from that path.

I think Ross is experiencing a similar process. He's learning to trust Goren and Eames (and Logon, come to think of it). I'm not sure he's the political creature Deakins was--or that he wants to be--so Ross' soul may not be in danger. But Ross has stood up for Goren with the Chief of Detectives and he's allowed Eames to stay on a case she shouldn't have been near. Plot devices--yes--but also possible signs of Ross' growing acceptance of his detectives.

Patcat (who will try to let the horse recover)

You will see when you watch TWAH. He gives her the goole eyes, come on women, we know what that means!

OK, I bought that sinking episode on Amazon last night, just to see this alleged google-eyeing. You people are CRAZY. CRAZY! I'll even watch it again. (good epi. made me both sad and mad).

Good observations! K, put your gun away!!

They would keep it secret, but then Bobby would find out. Could you imagine his reaction? lol

You guys are ill...

We aren't ill, just a little crazy!

what I like about Ross is that he's always out in the field. I don't remember Deakins being on the crime scenes but Ross seems to want to be involved. I also loved how he said: "blabla my children... the mother of my children..." in TWAH. I don't think he has a crush on Eames but is a bit protective, I mean she IS tiny, it's natural to feel a little protective especially if her partner is a little strange.

Are you saying Ross feels the need to protect Eames from Bobby?

Actually I didn't ever see Deakins in any danger of joining the political or spiritual dark side...if anything he was a little too willing to not fight back against Frank Adair and the dirty trick that blindsided him in his meteoric rise to running MCS (and who knows where Deakins would have ended up in the hierarchy of NYPD, but for the Adair revenge). Deakins struck me as not only already the consumate political animal, but the consumate manager...he doesn't just know how to play the party bosses to get himself into a position of power, he uses his power exquisitely and honestly and skillfully once he's in the position to wield power. Deakins could have pulled a Logan on Adair and literally punched him out but he knows better and my guess is that in the future Deakins could use the fact that he fell on a sword to his personal advantage at a later date (and whatever job he ends up in next, I expect him to do it well). I know how I'd bring Deakins back if I could (it's an interesting guest role if Sheridan wanted to work for a bit on CI again) but I'll save my idea for another time (it would work either in the context of fan fiction or in an actual arc for a few CI episodes). I also have a theory about why Deakins would let Logan the disgraced hot head and arguably a politically poisonous detective join MCS, but I'll save that as well.

Ross seems to have the connections to have gotten himself the job but he's not proven to me that he can run MCS with the finesse Deakins had. I actually worry more for Ross's soul because he's so pliable and changes too easily, adjusting himself to others who are his subordinates rather than laying down the law with them and sticking to his decisions (no way should Eames have stayed on the case in 'Amends'...a good defense attorney could easily get that ER doctor off by raising the suspicion of evidence tampering and destroy all that work Goren put in and render all the emotional turmoil Eames endured pointless). It is good that Ross is learning to trust Goren Eames and Logan more, but he mostly needs to trust himself and establish his style of command.

I see the parallels in evolution that more conventional cops like Deakins and Ross would most easily relate to and thus trust first Eames, then Logan, and then Goren but beyond the order in which they would pass muster, there isn't a lot of similarity (Deakins's confidence in himself has a lot to do with how quickly things clicked in the MCS squad room and why they still feel iffy under Ross's leadership).

Interesting points though Patcat

The Vault

I want Deakins back! Ross, there is something about him that get's under my skin, maybe Ross would like Eames to!

in the beginning, yes, a bit. Not in the sense that Bobby would hurt her but (just like that girl from last episode said) that her career could get tainted. I think it is better now, but Ross became captain during a time when Bobby was a bit upset and I think Ross saw a detective who always had her partner's back but wasn't treated too well all the time. It was just my impression in the beginning of season 6.

Vault:

Excellent points, particularly about Deakins' confidence in running the MCS. Of course, we only saw him as the established captain, while we're seeing Ross come in and try to establish himself.

Patcat

LOL This alone makes me want to join!

I am an Eric Bogosian fan and while at first Ross did grate on my nerves, I did take a liking to him once I got to know the character a little more. He's much more interesting than Deakins was and quite frankly, he reminds me more of Goren than perhaps most people are comfortable. LOL

So far this season he and Goren are apparently getting along better now that they're more used to each other. Ross did come on board at a very emotional time for Goren. Deakins may have had as much trouble with him back then as Ross did. I think Ross and Goren have more in common than either of them might like to admit but I can definitely see it.

Bump.

It seems people see what they want to see. I see nothing between Ross and Eames that even remotely resembles attraction.

If Ross were interested in Eames he wouldn't have been encouraging her about Peter (another wimp) in Silencer. That should be proof enough.

Ross' interest in Eames is paternal at best. Like Patcat said, his relationship with Goren and Eames is similar to Deakins. At first Deakins wasn't too keen on 'magic gut' Goren and was always pleased with Eames "Atta girl, Alex," he praised in season one - or two. I forget which episode but I remember thinking, gee, dad likes Alex best. LOL In any case Deakins learned to trust Goren and it seems Ross is as well. Goren still makes Ross nervous so he deals more with Eames and of course she is senior partner.

I don't think Ross would allow himself - being rather uptight and all - to have inappropriate feelings for one of his detectives. Seriously.

I still don't even know if the whole exchange between Ross and Rodgers means what people seem to think it means. Now there was something concrete to see. Of course it's all up to interpretation but Rodgers looked a little...awkward and she's never like that.

We'll have to wait and see. LOL

I think the writers have done a good job so far leaving us guessing and leaving us in suspense. The Eames' comment and now the exchange between Ross and Rogers. Who knows if they will ever tell us the truth, but its got us all thinking and talking about it and thirsting for the next epi. Good Job!

I had to laugh at the life vest that Ross was wearing on the boat. It looked like a little kids size 6x. It wouldn't even keep his hair afloat.

I'm in, I think he's cool. I agree he needs more lovin' but not with Eames or Rodgers. Just look at the Admiral on Jag. That is what he needs. Not more "cop" stuff.

The DRFC is recruiting new members at this time.

it could be because Ross suspects Eames of having feelings for Bobby. And when he noticed she went with Peter to lunch he just sort of told her - see, there are other guys around, NICE ones, like ME, you don't have to focus all your attention on Bobby. Maybe


if I hadn't read about it here on the forum I wouldn't even have thought that their akwardness could come from a past relationship. I'd have thought they just didn't like each other. But true, Rodger IS never akward. Could they have a relationship? I think she as an ME has another chief and is no subordinate to Ross?

We need member cards and multiple Tshirts.

We have Rules, Your either a shipper or anti-shipper
We have clubs
DRFC
RGFC
AEFC
MLFC
MWFC

Also you can join
TCA
PLOCIUSAMB

Boy are we dedicated or should we be admitted? lol

Hi I am Jryan I am an Anti-ship, member of DRFC,RGFC,AEFC,TCA,PLOCIUSAMB And I try hard to follow the 1-79 rules of Law and Order CI.

I forget, what's the TCA?

Tie Clips anonymous

that's right. I forgot. Yeah, we need some kind of icons or something for all the different sub-groups. I also think that there should be a grop for those of us who are on the fence in the whole shipper debate, as well as for friendshippers.

I'll have to get to work on those when I get some free time.

What does the P in PLOCIUSAMB stand for again?

Pathetic, remember when someone started the Are we Pathetic thread, we all said if people thought we were, we started the club. lol

Dementia is starting to set in. Forgive me.