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cluck73
VDO said that when the viewers learn Bobby's paternity, we will be "disappointed". What do you think that means? Will we be disappointed that its MFB because we feel badly for Goren? Or will we be disappointed that its Mr. Goren and all that drama was for nothing? Tell what you think...
spookycc
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Oct 23 2007, 09:11 PM) *
VDO said that when the viewers learn Bobby's paternity, we will be "disappointed". What do you think that means? Will we be disappointed that its MFB because we feel badly for Goren? Or will we be disappointed that its Mr. Goren and all that drama was for nothing? Tell what you think...


I think there was all the hype about Brady, so people will be disappointed that Bobby's dad was "just" well, Mr. Goren, the gambling loser. ;-P


spook
krodgers
IMO, I think Mark Brady is Bobby's father. Francis admitted to Bobby that his father was away alot, and she did see Brady more than one time, when Brady was on leave. Francis aplogized to Bobby on her death bed and she felt like Brady held a torch for her. Even Brady told Bobby his mother was the woman he could have loved, giving Bobby the impression that Brady was telling the truth because Brady had nothing to lose, he was goning to be executed. Remember Bobby telling his mother when she was so upset and really didn't know the truth re: Bobby's dad or Brady that it didn't matter. That's when I think Bobby knew what had changed his mother not knowing Bobby's real father, but I honestly think Francis knew Bobby's father was Brady and Bobby seeing his mother reaction, he didn't blame her anymore and found peace in forgiving his mother at the end.
cluck73
Also, when Bobby was talking to Frank, Frank said that "Uncle Mark" always came by with gifts for Bobby...
krodgers
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Oct 23 2007, 09:29 PM) *
Also, when Bobby was talking to Frank, Frank said that "Uncle Mark" always came by with gifts for Bobby...
Yeah, and Bobby didn't remember or maybe he blocked it out, but he was only 4 years old, but I still remember things at that age.
spookycc
QUOTE (KRodgers @ Oct 23 2007, 09:34 PM) *
Yeah, and Bobby didn't remember or maybe he blocked it out, but he was only 4 years old, but I still remember things at that age.


IIRC, Bobby was 3 and Frank was 7. ;-)


spook
Bubba_Bridges
Hi Bubba here, the poll is now at three votes a piece.
Alliehalliwell
I think, and hope, that Bobby's dad is Mr. Goren. MFB probably just assumed Bobby was his...ya know, male ego at knockin' someone up...
jcsavestheday
Perhaps his mom and brady only thought that Brady was his father. I suppose that I refuse to accept it until I know for sure.
ValleyOfTheShadow
I have a feeling it is really Mark Ford Brady, but....i would rather it be Mr. Goren, wherever he may roam. huh.gif
jcsavestheday
QUOTE (ValleyOfTheShado @ Oct 24 2007, 12:08 AM) *
I have a feeling it is really Mark Ford Brady, but....i would rather it be Mr. Goren, wherever he may roam. huh.gif


Mr. Goren is dead. (Mad Hops)
jcsavestheday
This is a little scary: there are more votes for Mr. Goren. Does this mean that Brady is Bobby's father? sad.gif
ValleyOfTheShadow
QUOTE (jcsavestheday @ Oct 24 2007, 12:10 AM) *
Mr. Goren is dead. (Mad Hops)



yeah, wherever he may roam in heaven or hell. =X
DETnathalie
I think "Bobby Father" is a sentence syntax mistake. Imo.
jcsavestheday
QUOTE (DETnathalie @ Oct 24 2007, 01:12 AM) *
I think "Bobby Father" is a sentence syntax mistake. Imo.


'Tis. Perhaps it will be corrected soon.
ValleyOfTheShadow
QUOTE (DETnathalie @ Oct 24 2007, 01:12 AM) *
I think "Bobby Father" is a sentence syntax mistake. Imo.


lawl, yee, i suppose it could be, depending on the real 'father'. tongue.gif
jcsavestheday
What if Bobby finds out that Brady is his father and goes crazy?

This is too much for me to handle. I need to break into...I don't know where...but I need to find out what's going to happen. This whole delayed reinforcment thing is not up my alley. I should have never started watching the new episodes of this show. I should have just stayed a season behind... blink.gif
ValleyOfTheShadow
QUOTE (jcsavestheday @ Oct 24 2007, 01:20 AM) *
What if Bobby finds out that Brady is his father and goes crazy?

This is too much for me to handle. I need to break into...I don't know where...but I need to find out what's going to happen. This whole delayed reinforcment thing is not up my alley. I should have never started watching the new episodes of this show. I should have just stayed a season behind... blink.gif


lawl, i know the feeling, now i'm just obsessed with the ideas of what will happen a little less then...2 weeks---from now. All i have to say is it better be worth the wait. mellow.gif
Chocaholic
If the writers really want to screw Bobby up and drive him crazy, he'll find out NEITHER Brady NOR Mr. Goren is his real father, that his mother fooled around a lot more than she revealed. Talk about a soap opera in the making...
ValleyOfTheShadow
QUOTE (Chocaholic @ Oct 24 2007, 02:47 AM) *
If the writers really want to screw Bobby up and drive him crazy, he'll find out NEITHER Brady NOR Mr. Goren is his real father, that his mother fooled around a lot more than she revealed. Talk about a soap opera in the making...



As "Melodramatic" as that seems, which apparently [according to your post in a different thread] is perfect for episodes with Bobby in it, i doubt the writers would take it that far. At least i hope not. >_<
Chocaholic
I could do with a lot LESS melodrama because I'm more into the crime stories and their villains. I can, and have, OD'd on the personal stuff, so I'd like to go through some withdrawal, lol! laugh.gif
sfeclitza
I enjoy the personal staff but i don't want something exagerrated , the writers are trying to deal both with crminal's stories and bobby's drama .and i guess this must satisfy everyone

And about bobby's father ..well it must be brady . ''End game'' showed a lot of father-son tension between bobby and brady and they also had some common features . Bobby's speaking german like brady does , they're good human observers , they make a lot of allusions and ironical comments and i pointed out all these details only to emphasize the common behavior features .THE facts that happended that very episode hint to the paternity too , the insecurity and the reaction his mother had the night she passed out , his brother's reavealings about uncle brady offering him gifts and about the mother being ''all black and blue'' blink.gif and most of all ,brady's ''birthday'' gift for bobby ..that yellow pad or notebook in which he gave a description of his life between 60's (?) and his arrest . What do you think fellows , have i brought you enough arguments ?
jcsavestheday
I know that i'm putting my head in the sand, but I refuse to believe it.
TennesseCIFAn
If Brady is Bobby's father, I don't think Brady knew, or not positive about it. But I have to agree, the probably that Brady is Bobby's father is very high
jcsavestheday
QUOTE (TennesseeCIFan @ Oct 24 2007, 11:54 AM) *
If Brady is Bobby's father, I don't think Brady knew, or not positive about it. But I have to agree, the probably that Brady is Bobby's father is very high


Its not improbable, but I don't htink that he really knew one way or the other. I think that given Francis' and Brady's actions as it concerns Bobby is suspect. They both probably thought that Bobby was brady's son (which might explain in part why Francis favored Frank), but I'm hoping beyond hope that maybe she thought wrong.

I guess I don't like to think of what this could do to him. It's not fair.
Jryan
I thought it was Rene Balcer or Dick Wolf, Or how about Darth Vader! BOBBY I AM YOUR FATHER!
ValleyOfTheShadow
QUOTE (Jryan @ Oct 24 2007, 01:02 PM) *
I thought it was Rene Balcer or Dick Wolf, Or how about Darth Vader! BOBBY I AM YOUR FATHER!



Ooo Darth Vader...i like that theory! biggrin.gif
sfeclitza
QUOTE (Jryan @ Oct 24 2007, 01:02 PM) *
I thought it was Rene Balcer or Dick Wolf, Or how about Darth Vader! BOBBY I AM YOUR FATHER!



What about the shark in ''jaws''? laugh.gif because roy scheider played in it...
DETnathalie
Jaws is the grandfather, roy is the father, and darth is the step-father. OH woes ! what a tangle web we weave!
ValleyOfTheShadow
QUOTE (DETnathalie @ Oct 24 2007, 09:29 PM) *
Jaws is the grandfather, roy is the father, and darth is the step-father. OH woes ! what a tangle web we weave!


lmfao...what a family. biggrin.gif
ciaddict
I voted for Mr. Goren just because--well, wishful thinking I guess. Who wants to think a serial killer is their father? BUT it really doesn't matter to me either way, and I don't think Bobby would be overly concerned about what he may or may not have inherited from Brady. I don't think I've heard of a serial killer gene. Was Ted Bundy's father a serial killer? Or Jeffery Dahmer's? So I think Bobby is too intelligent and too well-read to be concerned about his DNA. (Well, OK--Bobby is fictional so he will be concerned about whatever the writers make him concerned about.) What would seem to me to be more upsetting to him is the fact that his mother had an affair at all. After all, that is part of what he was angry at his father about--the cheating, Bobby's baggage didn't come from his DNA, it came from the two people who raised him; a mentally ill mother and an addictive father who abandoned him. Now if the whole Brady story had not happened and instead he found out his father (Mr. Goren) was a serial killer--that I can see as being a cause for some deep soul searching. If I found out that my father--the man who raised me, loved me, taught me about the world--was a serial killer, I wouldn't know what to believe about him or our relationship. That would be devastating. But not finding out a killer you only knew for 2 weeks might be your father. The thing is, even if Brady is not his father (and I guess he could find out the same way Benson tracked down her brother in SVU), he still has to deal with his feelings about his mother's affair and about her being attacked by a serial rapist/killer.

Also, it has been mentioned here and on other threads that maybe Frances favored Frank because she thought Brady was Bobby's father. But I don't think so. I think she only "favored" Frank because he wasn't around much and she couldn't be sure of his love. Bobby was the one who took care of her, visited her every week, called her every day, researched experimental treatments for her cancer. She knew that he would always be there, so it was safe for her to express all her fear, anger, and guilt (c'mon, she had to feel some guilt over the messed up childhoods her boys had) to Bobby. However, every time Frank left she didn't know when or if she would see him again. So she didn't feel safe venting her feelings on him. But she knew that Bobby would always be there, would always love her, and would never blame her for anything she said or did.
Jryan
I hope they never visit the subject. Just let it go, what does it mater,unless one of them had some disease that might affect him or his future children.
ciaddict
QUOTE (Jryan @ Oct 25 2007, 11:48 AM) *
I hope they never visit the subject. Just let it go, what does it mater,unless one of them had some disease that might affect him or his future children.


I agree!
Chocaholic
The bottom line is, Bobby is the man he is today because he CHOSE to be that way, not because of who his father is. Maybe Bobby over-compensated for Mr. Goren's irresponsibility by taking on responsibility for his mother's care, but I think he would have done so anyway. Finding out who his "real" father is isn't going to change Bobby's basic character, and it certainly isn't going to change the past. I hope the writers let the matter of Bobby's paternity go and leave it alone, but something tells me they won't.
cluck73
I totally agree with you, Choc! Thats why I love him because he made the right choices. I think there is an epi called "self-made" coming up and maybe that is when we learn the paternity. Maybe at the end, Bobby realizes it doesn't matter who his father is because he is "self-made".
ValleyOfTheShadow
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Oct 25 2007, 06:10 PM) *
I totally agree with you, Choc! Thats why I love him because he made the right choices. I think there is an epi called "self-made" coming up and maybe that is when we learn the paternity. Maybe at the end, Bobby realizes it doesn't matter who his father is because he is "self-made".



good call.
Chocaholic
I agree, very good call on "Self-Made" cluck73!
jcsavestheday
QUOTE (ValleyOfTheShado @ Oct 25 2007, 06:28 PM) *
good call.



That's my line
ValleyOfTheShadow
QUOTE (jcsavestheday @ Oct 25 2007, 06:52 PM) *
That's my line


blink.gif whoops.

=X

::tries to muster up own line::
krodgers
QUOTE (Chocaholic @ Oct 25 2007, 04:01 PM) *
The bottom line is, Bobby is the man he is today because he CHOSE to be that way, not because of who his father is. Maybe Bobby over-compensated for Mr. Goren's irresponsibility by taking on responsibility for his mother's care, but I think he would have done so anyway. Finding out who his "real" father is isn't going to change Bobby's basic character, and it certainly isn't going to change the past. I hope the writers let the matter of Bobby's paternity go and leave it alone, but something tells me they won't.
That's right You choose yourself, it's your choice none elses! KR smile.gif
jcsavestheday
bump
cluck73
I don't know, now that I've read info about "untethered" and the pretend name that bobby takes, I'm thinking maybe MFB is the dad...
ValleyOfTheShadow
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Oct 27 2007, 10:13 AM) *
I don't know, now that I've read info about "untethered" and the pretend name that bobby takes, I'm thinking maybe MFB is the dad...


Yeah, it's a sad truth.
spookycc
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Oct 27 2007, 11:13 AM) *
I don't know, now that I've read info about "untethered" and the pretend name that bobby takes, I'm thinking maybe MFB is the dad...



I read the casting info for Untethered at The Reel. Where did you fine the pretend name info? :-)


spook
cluck73
Someone posted it under a spoiler in one of the threads (I think the one about will bobby crack this season) but I can't remember the poster. I also just read the casting info for Untethered. I think its going to a doozie! I was hoping someone could post it in the season 7 thread. I was unable to do it.
cluck73
Hey SpookyCC, its in the "intense mental test for bobby" thread. It was posted by Sagara (post #33).
spookycc
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Oct 27 2007, 01:16 PM) *
Hey SpookyCC, its in the "intense mental test for bobby" thread. It was posted by Sagara (post #33).


Thanks, cluck! I PM'ed sagara (the poster) and asked if s/he could let me know where s/he got the info. ;-)

Sounds intense! But I hadn't seen that info anywhere else.


spook
sfeclitza
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Oct 27 2007, 12:07 PM) *
Someone posted it under a spoiler in one of the threads (I think the one about will bobby crack this season) but I can't remember the poster. I also just read the casting info for Untethered. I think its going to a doozie! I was hoping someone could post it in the season 7 thread. I was unable to do it.


I'm curious about this episode too . it is said that bobby will pass through a serios experience . Another odd episode is ''undercover ''(bobby going undercover in a ward hospital ?)about which many posters said it would emphasize on the character's mental test.. huh.gif
cluck73
In the thread "intense mental test for bobby" Sagara posted a spoiler about the epi. Its post #33. It doesn't look good for our friend...
sagara
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Oct 27 2007, 10:13 AM) *
I don't know, now that I've read info about "untethered" and the pretend name that bobby takes, I'm thinking maybe MFB is the dad...


i haven't see that like significiant considering the role he plays in unthethered but maybe you're right


Spook I sent you a response but i had problems when i posted it so tell me if you didn't receive it smile.gif
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