Full Version: Will Bobby "Crack" This New Season?
from the newest episode you can see signs of Det. Goren wanting to lash out at those who call him crazy ect. and he just lost his mom and he might have a father who is a serial killer & rapist... I'm just wondering if any one thinks he might crack on this season and either go balistics (like last seasons episode) in an episode or actually cry on screen (signs of crying last season but was not put on screen)...
The way I see it,
I don't think the writers would have anything but fan service to gain, for another of Goren's psycotic breaks. It's a climax that can't be used again, other wise it would mean the end of his career. I think having had one before only served to empower himself to use it to his "advantage". In what way, I don't know, we'll have to see. But will the issue be an 'issue' again? Probably.
I don't think the writers would have anything but fan service to gain, for another of Goren's psycotic breaks. It's a climax that can't be used again, other wise it would mean the end of his career. I think having had one before only served to empower himself to use it to his "advantage". In what way, I don't know, we'll have to see. But will the issue be an 'issue' again? Probably.
VDO said that there is an episode that "intensely tests Goren's mental health", so I am just waiting...
If Robert does crack, I think Vincent will save it for the end....
Hi Bubba here, ...
That would be my answer too.
QUOTE (CriminallyInsane @ Oct 8 2007, 05:20 PM) 
If Robert does crack, I think Vincent will save it for the end....
That would be my answer too.
IMO, I think Nicole Wallace might make him crack! 
QUOTE (CriminallyInsane @ Oct 8 2007, 05:20 PM)
If Robert does crack, I think Vincent will save it for the end....
In the season finale or series finale?
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Oct 8 2007, 04:58 PM)
VDO said that there is an episode that "intensely tests Goren's mental health", so I am just waiting...
yea, im waiting for the "going undercover in mental ward episode" as well. i think if he would "crack" it would be in that epi, but i dont think he will break down like he did in previous ones. save it for last.
You mean like in War At Home?
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It's good to finally see that Goren actually can feeling down, but I just hope that the writer somehow wouldn't bring it too far then it would be harder to bring the "real" Goren that we knew.
(Excuse me for my english, I am still learning by the way)
(Excuse me for my english, I am still learning by the way)
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QUOTE (East @ Oct 8 2007, 06:34 PM)
In the season finale or series finale?
The series finale..
Crack in what way?
If you mean act out his anger then I don't think so.
If you mean collapse under the weight of all the mental & emotional baggage he's been lugging around, then I say maybe.
I don't really think it will though. Why? Because we'd all want to see it, and it would be too far out of the normal range of stuff they do in the show. It would put the whole show in a very different place than what it is.
If it did though, IF they actually did it... He would become someone totally new. He would either fall into complete madness, or come through it stronger and more stable than ever before. He would either surrender to his guilt, his insecurities, and his fears or he would fight them all and win, finally accepting that he's strong and good and cared about. That there's meaning and purpose to his life.
If you mean act out his anger then I don't think so.
If you mean collapse under the weight of all the mental & emotional baggage he's been lugging around, then I say maybe.
I don't really think it will though. Why? Because we'd all want to see it, and it would be too far out of the normal range of stuff they do in the show. It would put the whole show in a very different place than what it is.
If it did though, IF they actually did it... He would become someone totally new. He would either fall into complete madness, or come through it stronger and more stable than ever before. He would either surrender to his guilt, his insecurities, and his fears or he would fight them all and win, finally accepting that he's strong and good and cared about. That there's meaning and purpose to his life.
QUOTE (VDOVault @ Oct 9 2007, 07:18 AM)
Hi MajFrukt what is your native language? If you hadn't said anything, I would not have guessed that you are not a native English speaker 
I'll bet your English is far better than the other 2 languages I sort of mess around with (German which I sort of learned when my father was stationed in the Army over there and French which I studied in high school)...if it weren't for online translation programs and some serious work on my part, I would not be able to follow CI / Law & Order / VDO fans conversations abroad (they usually take pity on me and let me post to their discussion boards in English LOL!)
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I'll bet your English is far better than the other 2 languages I sort of mess around with (German which I sort of learned when my father was stationed in the Army over there and French which I studied in high school)...if it weren't for online translation programs and some serious work on my part, I would not be able to follow CI / Law & Order / VDO fans conversations abroad (they usually take pity on me and let me post to their discussion boards in English LOL!)
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Thank you for your nice words. My native language is Indonesian. When I got here in US two years ago I started to watch Criminal Intent (because my husband was a huge fan), but I found it's hard to understand so I kinda gave up and decided to watch SVU (which somehow is easier to understand) instead. But last season I started to watch this show again and I was surprised that I could finally follow it and realized how GREAT this show was and a bit regret for "ignoring" this masterpiece for such a long time.
It's good to see you tried to participate in "foreign" board, it's always great to find out what other fans from different country think about this show
QUOTE (East @ Oct 8 2007, 07:34 PM)
In the season finale or series finale?
Ok, here's where I fall into the "you know you're obsessed" category....As I was driving to work today, I was mulling this over. My thoughts are that VDO will save Robert's breakdown (or psychotic break) for the last season - - whenever that is - - but it will run throughout that season. JMO, but I think he will leave us with an institutionalized Robert who is discovering the Picasso within him. I'm not happy about it, but it's what I'm thinking.
It would be an interesting end to a brilliant detective- - ala Sherlock Holmes, minus the 7% solution.
I have had those eerie thoughts myself, but I hope it doesn't happen. Bobby has had so much adversity his whole life that I was just hoping that things would finally come together for him, maybe he would find love, and ride off into the sunset....
just so he is happy....
just so he is happy....
QUOTE (lucymiller @ Oct 8 2007, 05:42 PM)
from the newest episode you can see signs of Det. Goren wanting to lash out at those who call him crazy ect. and he just lost his mom and he might have a father who is a serial killer & rapist... I'm just wondering if any one thinks he might crack on this season and either go balistics (like last seasons episode) in an episode or actually cry on screen (signs of crying last season but was not put on screen)...
I don't think it will happen this season unless its at the end. I do love him in any role that he plays; he is just so great.
QUOTE (cluck73 @ Oct 9 2007, 08:57 PM)
I have had those eerie thoughts myself, but I hope it doesn't happen. Bobby has had so much adversity his whole life that I was just hoping that things would finally come together for him, maybe he would find love, and ride off into the sunset....
just so he is happy....
just so he is happy....
ITA, but based upon my take on what amuzes and attracts VDO to a character/part, I believe he really gets off on the dark psychological damage stuff (how technical is that description?) You can tell he spends a lot of time inside that head of his; twisting, bending and turning every angle and portal of his mind. I LOVE that!
Of course, I could be TOTALLY wrong.
wow!... I mean.. I hardly know what to say..
I think that Goren will have his little mental lapse.. not calapse.. in the undecover eppy.. I don't think a crackup is in the near future.. not a permenant one anyway.
I don't think there will be a split between G/E this season.. or.. in any season yet to come.. and I don't think the end of the shows run will leave Goren in an institution. Surely they wouldn't do that to thier fans.
I do think he will have to deal with his past time and time again.. but he'll handle it.. and he soon may find the truth of it all.
in recent interviews Kate has alluded to the fact that Eames will learn to live life for reasons other than just the job.. I don't know if Goren ever can.. but we'll see.
I think G/E eventually get closer.. NOT distant.. and I'm not talking about a romance.. I think they've made that clear that won't happen.. but I would'nt be suprised if somewhere down the road they feel a twinge of displaced affection.. but they will resolve it quickly.
I HOPE we have a few episodes free of angst ...I'm not sure we will.. but I think maybe even a light hearted eppy is in order.. i mean.. I don't know about you all but I need a break!
Amends was wonderful and had some of the old spark as in the past.. true we can't go back.. but can't they keep some of the things that solidified thier character!!.. real poeple do even when they change.
anyway.. that's my two cents.
*bug*
I think that Goren will have his little mental lapse.. not calapse.. in the undecover eppy.. I don't think a crackup is in the near future.. not a permenant one anyway.
I don't think there will be a split between G/E this season.. or.. in any season yet to come.. and I don't think the end of the shows run will leave Goren in an institution. Surely they wouldn't do that to thier fans.
I do think he will have to deal with his past time and time again.. but he'll handle it.. and he soon may find the truth of it all.
in recent interviews Kate has alluded to the fact that Eames will learn to live life for reasons other than just the job.. I don't know if Goren ever can.. but we'll see.
I think G/E eventually get closer.. NOT distant.. and I'm not talking about a romance.. I think they've made that clear that won't happen.. but I would'nt be suprised if somewhere down the road they feel a twinge of displaced affection.. but they will resolve it quickly.
I HOPE we have a few episodes free of angst ...I'm not sure we will.. but I think maybe even a light hearted eppy is in order.. i mean.. I don't know about you all but I need a break!
Amends was wonderful and had some of the old spark as in the past.. true we can't go back.. but can't they keep some of the things that solidified thier character!!.. real poeple do even when they change.
anyway.. that's my two cents.
*bug*
I think that Bobby is going to go through many emotions, I think that what the character needs is love from a friend, a woman, or even Eames, he needs to have a connection of some kind to keep himself from going off the deep end, the poor guy practically lost everything, so hopefully the writers will have someone to reassure him. Basically he needs a sign that everything will be ok.
OMG. You know what I just figured out what the final episode will have?
Spoiler:
How do you know?
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QUOTE (VDOVault @ Oct 10 2007, 10:04 PM)
No arguments here other than briefly where I think 'Amends' went wrong was in letting Eames play a part in the reopening of her husband's case. I know it was dramatic and gave Katie an acting challenge but geez these are *major case* detectives who should know better than to let a victim handle evidence. As a lawyer I kept hoping for Carver to pop up and chew Goren Ross & Eames out for violating the chain of custody on evidence handling and thought to myself that never would have been allowed in the old days (before Season 6).
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I can't disagree, but I try very hard to let that stuff go and suspend my disbelief where LOCI is concerned. When you think about it, none of the shows are realistic as far as what really happens in a law firm (Boston Legal) or as far as police evidence (LOCI and MANY others), or medical shows (House)...I think LOCI is more realistic than most, and I've yet to get annoyed by the liberties it takes - - unlike the CSIs, Criminal Minds, Without a Trace, etc., etc., which have turned me off due to their annoying breaches of ethics, realism, and because they are just too simple yet insist on talking down at their viewers....Besides, not having VDO
So what area of law are you in?
QUOTE (DETnathalie @ Oct 10 2007, 05:37 PM)
OMG. You know what I just figured out what the final episode will have?
Don't you mean Goren? I miss spell all the time! Spoiler:
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I've been a certified paralegal for 25 years, so I know of whence you speak. I've done everything in law, except patents and trademarks! I refused to go to law school because I didn't want to become one of "them" LOL! I like to be able to converse about subjects other than law, which most attorneys do not know how to do.
I also have an MA, Psy., so I LOVE the psychological aspects of LOCI. It's the real reason I became hooked on Robert O. Goren. When I read up on Rene Balcer, I discovered why I am so attracted to the show....I want to be like Rene! LOL! Truly, how can I utilize my degrees????
Thirdly, my hobby is music. I've played my way through college and have many friends in the business from artists to DJs to namagers (see my banner). Is there a way to put all three together? I've asked myself this question many times.
ANYWAY, nice to meet you- seems like we have much in common. I'm in NY (near NYC). Where are you?
Maybe we can take this to PM???
Just to keep on topic, I feel very strongly that VDO will bring Robert to a breakdown....
I also have an MA, Psy., so I LOVE the psychological aspects of LOCI. It's the real reason I became hooked on Robert O. Goren. When I read up on Rene Balcer, I discovered why I am so attracted to the show....I want to be like Rene! LOL! Truly, how can I utilize my degrees????
Thirdly, my hobby is music. I've played my way through college and have many friends in the business from artists to DJs to namagers (see my banner). Is there a way to put all three together? I've asked myself this question many times.
ANYWAY, nice to meet you- seems like we have much in common. I'm in NY (near NYC). Where are you?
Maybe we can take this to PM???
Just to keep on topic, I feel very strongly that VDO will bring Robert to a breakdown....
That poll was a good idea!
I like Goren living on the psychic edge most of the time - that's why he's so good at his job.
I like him best when he solves crimes with Holmes-like logic, sometimes at great cost to his mental well-being. It's like he can't help juggernauting to a solution, even if he's sacrificing part of himself. It's beyond ego.
Whatever the writers have in mind, I'm sure of one thing: VDO is one of our greatest actors and he'll get an opportunity to display his formidable talent.
I like Goren living on the psychic edge most of the time - that's why he's so good at his job.
I like him best when he solves crimes with Holmes-like logic, sometimes at great cost to his mental well-being. It's like he can't help juggernauting to a solution, even if he's sacrificing part of himself. It's beyond ego.
Whatever the writers have in mind, I'm sure of one thing: VDO is one of our greatest actors and he'll get an opportunity to display his formidable talent.
QUOTE (VDOVault @ Oct 11 2007, 08:10 PM)
Taking the second part first I handled intellectual property law...that means patents copyrights trademarks and trade secrets and some of the licensing issues that go along with those areas. I am also a registered patent attorney (you have to take and pass a test at the Patent & Trademark Office to do that as well as pass at least one state's or Washington DC's bar exam...however people who just take the patent exam and pass it are called patent agents. Agents are allowed to file patent applications but only attorneys can both help their clients get patents and then turn around and sue people over patent infringement).
My other areas of study are entertainment law (mostly the music end of things...I had some rap artists and Hispanic artists who made Tejano music as clients...but I read up on the legal aspects of TV film and books for my own education), Internet and computer law, and something called alternative dispute resolution...in English that means helping people resolve disputes without filing lawsuits and going into court (this means I know something about negotiations, mediations and arbitrations).
By far the most fun and personal satisfaction I had was with my entertainment clients but I did handle some patent infringement lawsuits (and won). I was the first and only woman associate (or 'newbie lawyer') in my firm (a very good ole boy one at that) and my boss the founding partner had a very different career direction in mind for me than I wanted to take (he wanted me to be the firm's token chick litigator and go to court and put on a show fighting lawsuits too many of which I knew were just going to drain the clients's wallets while I wanted to do what attorneys call 'transactional work'...file patents, negotiate contracts, advise people in their businesses and careers). People who seek transactional help are for the most part pleasant to be around and reasonable and their enthusiasm is contagious. Clients in litigation tend to be ticked off, unreasonable and of a 'do unto others before they do unto you' mindset, plus litigators work obscene hours and are prone to develop a lot of bad habits (smoking, drinking, eating too much, spending too much).)
But enough about me
All of the L&O series have had really good technical advisors (police, forensic and legal) to help both the writers and actors but there is a tendency to let the legal stuff slide partly because the legal stuff is harder to understand and partly because as new and younger writers come in to write for the series, few of them have any experience with the law that they can use to help them write really good scripts. Rene Balcer, the old show runner learned from Michael Chernuchin, a writer who was also a lawyer and the two of them wrote some of the most amazing mothership episodes together in the early years. Cherny moved on though and I think when Balcer left CI (he's now back at the mothership) it's as if not only did we lose a main character who was an ADA (Carver) and could inject some legal and procedural reality into a CI episode, things have gotten sloppy in the investigations so if the CI episodes were to show the court cases following the apprehension of the criminals, some of the slam dunk solutions could be reversed on technicalities (like Eames in 'Amends' handling that shirt of her husbands with her bare hands and crying all over it...dramatic but dangerous and a good defense attorney could have nailed them with letting the victim's wife, a wronged cop, handle evidence...perhaps she might have also planted DNA on the cigarette that would have been introduced at trial). Since CI for a long time was sensitive to this, this was another reason I found Season 6 frustrating at times...it was sure dramatic but some of that logic and care went right out the window to make room for the big emotional moments (don't get me started on letting Goren interrogate Mark Ford Brady in 'Endgame' once everyone realizes that his mother had a relationship with Brady...that alone was bad enough, but the near strangulation scene had me shaking my head and potentially seeing Brady get the stay of execution he wanted while a court looked into what happened between Goren & Brady...sheesh!)
As for shows like Boston Legal (I saw enough 'crazy people' behavior in law firms...there is more there than you might think although no one likes to talk about it...so doubt I could enjoy that show at all) or the other cop/forensic shows, well they didn't appeal to me. I don't watch a lot of TV but the few of those shows you mentioned I saw bored me (Mandy Patinkin is a good actor but Criminal Minds is a weak show) and were so inaccurate legally or criminal procedurally speaking that I'd never watch a second episode. I sort of watch House on and off (I have always loved Hugh Laurie when he works with the comedian Stephen Fry and they do things like Jeeves and Wooster or stand-up) and I think it's kind of cool that Gregory House is supposed to be a military brat (being one myself I can relate to his inability to relate to others) but I find the medical cases kind of uninteresting (although I'll ask my pathologist/coroner friend how accurate he thinks their work is...he gives high grades to all 3 L&O series for their accuracy and he likes what he's seen of Six Feet Under...coroners and morticians get pretty familiar with each others' work).
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My other areas of study are entertainment law (mostly the music end of things...I had some rap artists and Hispanic artists who made Tejano music as clients...but I read up on the legal aspects of TV film and books for my own education), Internet and computer law, and something called alternative dispute resolution...in English that means helping people resolve disputes without filing lawsuits and going into court (this means I know something about negotiations, mediations and arbitrations).
By far the most fun and personal satisfaction I had was with my entertainment clients but I did handle some patent infringement lawsuits (and won). I was the first and only woman associate (or 'newbie lawyer') in my firm (a very good ole boy one at that) and my boss the founding partner had a very different career direction in mind for me than I wanted to take (he wanted me to be the firm's token chick litigator and go to court and put on a show fighting lawsuits too many of which I knew were just going to drain the clients's wallets while I wanted to do what attorneys call 'transactional work'...file patents, negotiate contracts, advise people in their businesses and careers). People who seek transactional help are for the most part pleasant to be around and reasonable and their enthusiasm is contagious. Clients in litigation tend to be ticked off, unreasonable and of a 'do unto others before they do unto you' mindset, plus litigators work obscene hours and are prone to develop a lot of bad habits (smoking, drinking, eating too much, spending too much).)
But enough about me
All of the L&O series have had really good technical advisors (police, forensic and legal) to help both the writers and actors but there is a tendency to let the legal stuff slide partly because the legal stuff is harder to understand and partly because as new and younger writers come in to write for the series, few of them have any experience with the law that they can use to help them write really good scripts. Rene Balcer, the old show runner learned from Michael Chernuchin, a writer who was also a lawyer and the two of them wrote some of the most amazing mothership episodes together in the early years. Cherny moved on though and I think when Balcer left CI (he's now back at the mothership) it's as if not only did we lose a main character who was an ADA (Carver) and could inject some legal and procedural reality into a CI episode, things have gotten sloppy in the investigations so if the CI episodes were to show the court cases following the apprehension of the criminals, some of the slam dunk solutions could be reversed on technicalities (like Eames in 'Amends' handling that shirt of her husbands with her bare hands and crying all over it...dramatic but dangerous and a good defense attorney could have nailed them with letting the victim's wife, a wronged cop, handle evidence...perhaps she might have also planted DNA on the cigarette that would have been introduced at trial). Since CI for a long time was sensitive to this, this was another reason I found Season 6 frustrating at times...it was sure dramatic but some of that logic and care went right out the window to make room for the big emotional moments (don't get me started on letting Goren interrogate Mark Ford Brady in 'Endgame' once everyone realizes that his mother had a relationship with Brady...that alone was bad enough, but the near strangulation scene had me shaking my head and potentially seeing Brady get the stay of execution he wanted while a court looked into what happened between Goren & Brady...sheesh!)
As for shows like Boston Legal (I saw enough 'crazy people' behavior in law firms...there is more there than you might think although no one likes to talk about it...so doubt I could enjoy that show at all) or the other cop/forensic shows, well they didn't appeal to me. I don't watch a lot of TV but the few of those shows you mentioned I saw bored me (Mandy Patinkin is a good actor but Criminal Minds is a weak show) and were so inaccurate legally or criminal procedurally speaking that I'd never watch a second episode. I sort of watch House on and off (I have always loved Hugh Laurie when he works with the comedian Stephen Fry and they do things like Jeeves and Wooster or stand-up) and I think it's kind of cool that Gregory House is supposed to be a military brat (being one myself I can relate to his inability to relate to others) but I find the medical cases kind of uninteresting (although I'll ask my pathologist/coroner friend how accurate he thinks their work is...he gives high grades to all 3 L&O series for their accuracy and he likes what he's seen of Six Feet Under...coroners and morticians get pretty familiar with each others' work).
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I personally think that LOCI folks will do what is necessary to keep the show going. I have to admit that I love the show with or without the "real-life" effects. You know...I have a BBA in Finance that included both business law with a brokers license (and all it entails). I also have a Masters in Education and have had my fair share of law with education....I have always considered myself to be very analytical but I think you take the cake!
i guess 99% that bobby might have a breakdown as he is almost overwhelmed by the previous events in his life (the death of his mother , the encounter with brady and his terrible past , his loneliness and the lack of support from his brother ). the fact he urges into his working life solving cases as before is propably a hint that something lurks beneath the surface ..his sufferance ,maybe ,and it will somehow gush out at a certain moment. why most of you envisage that this will happen another season as VDO himself affirmed that bobby will have his mental sanity tested ad everything will go wild this season?
I'm new aronud here and i'm not english / american but i hop i get my ideeas pretty well expressed
I'm new aronud here and i'm not english / american but i hop i get my ideeas pretty well expressed
QUOTE (sfeclitza @ Oct 18 2007, 08:43 AM)
i guess 99% that bobby might have a breakdown as he is almost overwhelmed by the previous events in his life (the death of his mother , the encounter with brady and his terrible past , his loneliness and the lack of support from his brother ). the fact he urges into his working life solving cases as before is propably a hint that something lurks beneath the surface ..his sufferance ,maybe ,and it will somehow gush out at a certain moment. why most of you envisage that this will happen another season as VDO himself affirmed that bobby will have his mental sanity tested ad everything will go wild this season?
I'm new aronud here and i'm not english / american but i hop i get my ideeas pretty well expressed
I'm new aronud here and i'm not english / american but i hop i get my ideeas pretty well expressed
no worries.. you are fine.. as far as bobby cracking.. I think I'll crack way before he does.
*bug*
QUOTE (bugtussle47 @ Oct 18 2007, 09:56 AM)
no worries.. you are fine.. as far as bobby cracking.. I think I'll crack way before he does.
*bug*
I feel the same Bug! *bug*
well , why do you all crack fox? if you really want to see Vdo sob watch ''that championship season ''(99' version) or ''the whole wide world ''.You can find there a couple of scenes in which he breaks down ...but i guess that they are not so poignant as those of bobby ..Anyway , does anyone know from where i can download ''that championship season''? or if there are any clips on youtube ....
QUOTE (sfeclitza @ Oct 18 2007, 10:29 AM)
well , why do you all crack fox? if you really want to see Vdo sob watch ''that championship season ''(99' version) or ''the whole wide world ''.You can find there a couple of scenes in which he breaks down ...but i guess that they are not so poignant as those of bobby ..Anyway , does anyone know from where i can download ''that championship season''? or if there are any clips on youtube ....
lol.. personaly I don't want to see him crack OR sob.. I want smiles... him getting angry.. that emotion I love.. but I am really worn down on the angst and saddness..
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thanx !!! 
I love Bobby's dominating approach to each case, I think he's smart and resourceful, and will hold it together because he doesn't want to live as the way he was raised, IMO.
QUOTE (bugtussle47 @ Oct 18 2007, 12:27 PM)
lol.. personaly I don't want to see him crack OR sob.. I want smiles... him getting angry.. that emotion I love.. but I am really worn down on the angst and saddness..
*bug*
*bug*
I want quirky-Bobby back, with his Goren leans and his expressive hand/arm movements, etc.
spook
QUOTE (VDOVault @ Oct 18 2007, 12:27 PM)
It's actually available on DVD in Region 1 (i.e. the USA & Canada) sfeclitza
That's what you're looking for...try all the usual online suspects (Amazon, half.com, etc)
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That's what you're looking for...try all the usual online suspects (Amazon, half.com, etc)
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I can't get over how many films VDO has made with Tony Shalhoub and Gary Sinese. I like the "un- Rat Pack"!
QUOTE (spookycc @ Oct 18 2007, 02:46 PM)
I want quirky-Bobby back, with his Goren leans and his expressive hand/arm movements, etc.
spook
Yeah, the whacked-job twiches! LOL!
spook
QUOTE (KRodgers @ Oct 18 2007, 03:19 PM)
Yeah, the whacked-job twiches! LOL!
Those were cool, but I meant more like the "old" Goren - the leans, the fluid movements, and those facial expressions that we don't see anymore. ;-)
spook
QUOTE (spookycc @ Oct 18 2007, 03:39 PM)
Those were cool, but I meant more like the "old" Goren - the leans, the fluid movements, and those facial expressions that we don't see anymore. ;-)
spook
spook
Maybe, Vincent is not well, if he is taking something for depression, some prescriptions can make you dizzy and change your personality.
after what happened this past episode (#3) I really think Bobby might loose it... it will probably be a small blow out, but he's gonna blow!!
QUOTE (lucymiller @ Oct 18 2007, 10:28 PM)
after what happened this past episode (#3) I really think Bobby might loose it... it will probably be a small blow out, but he's gonna blow!!
I totally agree. I think that he wouldn''t be able to handle knowing that he caused Eames any hurt or grief.
QUOTE (spookycc @ Oct 18 2007, 03:39 PM)
Those were cool, but I meant more like the "old" Goren - the leans, the fluid movements, and those facial expressions that we don't see anymore. ;-)
spook
spook
That's what we got more of tonight. He was looking extra smooth and awesome this epi.
QUOTE (HelloBobby @ Oct 18 2007, 10:36 PM)
I totally agree. I think that he wouldn''t be able to handle knowing that he caused Eames any hurt or grief.
*sigh*
I don't know if Bobby is going to crack, but I'm definitely going to crack if we keep having endings like the ending of Smile.
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I don't know if Bobby is going to crack, but I'm definitely going to crack if we keep having endings like the ending of Smile.
Aimen to that!!!
QUOTE (lucymiller @ Oct 19 2007, 01:32 AM)
Aimen to that!!!
just finished checking out the VDO interview, and now i think we know the answer to the will bobby crack question
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