Everyone needs their E/O fix. It's been way too long.

I know,what can we do to feed this addiction?

Give them cookies! Cookies solve everything! Oooooh, I want some now! Chocolateeee

No, cookies won't feed it.

Mmm cookies. I'll take one, but I'd rather have a fat ars for watching too much EO on SVU then a side of badonka donk from eating too many cookies.

Yet, I have to add a seperate LOL to DetectiveMc's "Kathy???" response earlier on in this post. LOLOL!!!! Yes that would be the ultimate sappy sad clown Kathy face. Can you just imagine Kathy telling Olivia to get the EO on?

"Olivia...." Kathy bats her large pathetic right side half closed eyes as she takes a step towards Olivia's perfect complexion. "You need to end the suffering right now. Just say it. Do it. Take my husband and run for the neon lights...before I....I....do something unthinkable." Enter the knife from behind her back.

"Kathy this is ludicris! Put the knife down," Olivia gasps.

"Only if you promise to end this maddness once and for all."

"Fine. FINE! You're right. I should have done it years ago."

Kathy looks down and then back up as if Olivia stepped out of line. "Don't get cocky. Just do as I say and we can all move on with our lives. Okay?"

Olivia nods silently and turns to look at Elliot who is absently playing the bubble game on his computer screen. Both women give each other a knowing glance and Kathy nudges Olivia towards the desk. "You can do it -oh fearless one- I have faith in you."

Olivia breathes in to confidently say the words she's longed to hear slip from her mouth and then stops. "I can call you if I need back up right?"

But it's too late .....Kathy is gone.

Miniacle laughter! Brew hahahhahahah AH hahhahahahahhahah Muh hahahahahhah!



Wow I really need to go write a fanfic. I'm wasteing all of the prescious goods on ridiculous OK plots. LOL!

*breathes in and out* omg Scar, that was like an outtake from Why We Had to Kill Kathy! HAHA!
I wish that was in the show! Please!

Ok, I have to go lie down now.

I'm actually here to let you know I won't be active on the forums for the rest of the week. I have three assignments, a take home exam and my brain is close to exploding. So, for my health (lol), I'm cutting down on my vices (which is this to the max). I need to be told about the EO interaction in tomorrow's episode (or...two days for the yanky-doodle-dandies), so drop me a PM.

Don't miss me too much!

elliot and olivia get hurt within the next two episodes. lets see what happens

Mannn, why you gotta rain on my parade??? I already didn't have a good night because of them Patriots. *grabs pitch forks n knives and hands them to the angry Colts fanclub and runs after the Patriots* I'll be back later! =]

Scar you crack me up!!!

when they get hurt i want to see how they will get injured this time

Hi, everyone! I couldn't find my old "shipper theory" thread, so I thought this was the best place to post this. My shipper theory is that most E/O shippers are young (under 24), single and female. So, this year I only had two shipper students: one is only 16 and is doing an advanced studies program where students do their last two years of high school and their first two years of college simultaneously, thus she is about four years younger than all of my other students; the other just turned 23. I like to use SVU when we begin doing character analysis because the show has been on so long that we can trace the evolution of the characters over a number of years. Also, SVU is on a gazillion times a week so I know that my students can catch it at least once a week for class discussion.

Here is the funny part that supports my theory. Last spring, the student who just turned 23 was such a shipper that she cried when some of the other students did a super character analysis exercise on why E/O should not be together. Two weeks ago, she turned 23 and she announced in class that she is no longer a shipper. She told me "you were right, I grew out of it."

The not-so-funny part is that the 16-year-old announced today that she is no longer a shipper because her brother-in-law just left her sister and their three children after 14 years of marriage because he says he is in love with a co-worker. One of their kids is only three months old. She said that it made her want Elliot to stay with Kathy.

So, this got me thinking about my shipper theory again. I am wondering how many of you all fit the profile. Also, are there any male E/O shippers on the board? I have yet to find one.

BTW, I am not a "flamer", (my new word of the week), so I don't want a fight. I really just am curious and I would like to know what you all think about my theory.

Additional BTW--I may use your posts in class this week, if that's okay with you all

I don't know how helpful this will be to your class, but I don't fit part of your profile. I'm female and single, but I'm 28. I have an undergraduate degree and am working on my graduate degree. If this were in real life, I'd be rooting for the marriage. Since it's fiction and I'm incredibly invested in the main characters, however, I'm all for E/O goodness. I wonder if your non-shippers have enough invested in the characters to do a proper analysis. How many hours of the show do they watch? Which episodes? Just curious.

I don't tell them which specific episodes to watch. Actually, the reason that I chose SVU for tv/film character analysis was that so many of my students were already obsessed with it and had been watching for years. It actually all started when we looking at oral interpretation of children's literature, and I used the clip on Noggin of Meloni reading a children's story. One of my male students jumped out of his desk and yelled, "yes! Meloni rules!" This led to a, let's call it, "intense" discussion of SVU. I have found that most of my students are just as devoted to the show as that first student was. so it is a good choice for character analysis. Since you are in grad school and are probably around alot of undergrads, you know how intense their devotion to a subject can be. And, overwhelmingly, they are non-shippers. They feel that a romantic E/O relationship would violate the integrity of the characters and go against the intent of the show.

Oh, I almost forgot! Thanks for the reply, Munchkinsucks25! BTW, cool username. 25 what?

1. Np on the reply.

2. Thanks. It's just a random number.

3. What subject do you teach? Are the majority of your students in the same program or different programs? Are those non-shippers fans of the mothership?

I teach drama. I only do SVU character analysis in acting and scene study classes, so most of my students are theatre/drama majors or minors. Generally, only my older students (30+) watch the mother ship. But now, out of 50 students, I only have one shipper; unless there are some closet shippers in there, somewhere.

I do have to say, though, that a large portion of the classes have quit watching in the last month, or so.

It wouldn't surprise me if there were some closet shippers. Any group can be pretty intimidating if to disagree with, even if they're polite.

It also doesn't surprise me that they've quit watching. It's kinda sucked recently, imho. I'm looking forward to Svengali and Blinded. Hopefully, they'll bring back the character interaction that I adore.

Hmm I never realized that, but it is a good theory. Have you tested it elsewhere, or just with your students?

I agree with your first point.

I also agree with your second point. I haven't watched much this season, mainly because I can't stay up late anymore and I don't have Tivo, (dangit). I did manage to watch Avatar and I still haven't recovered.

Remember in the first few seasons when the characters actually smiled?

Yeah, sorry sweety. I am going on 25 next month. But I am single! This season has royaly stunk for SVU and I am hoping that the show brings back either better cases or more personals to the forefront.

I was in drama for two years in high school and for a semester in college. My favorite play that I had acted in was Midsummer Night's Dream by the great Bill! Hey I wonder if that's where they came up with the name "Play Bill?" LOL!

Haha, good question. Now you've got me wondering. I'll have to go look up the origin somewhere, lol.

And tired mom: I DO remember when they smiled. Sorry you caught Avatar.

HAAA! I am totally going to use that in class tomorrow. Since you are a fan of Cousin Billy, you might get a kick out of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQGATTeg1Os

Sorry, everyone, I apologize for getting the thread OT!

Shippers and non-shippers unite!

That video was so funny! I loved when the Comedies were being brought up. LOL!

Let it be known that A.)I dislike Social Studies very much B.)I dislike the time change very much and C.)Because of the time change I am very tired and I wake up before I'm supposed to. *yawn*

Totally, I hope we get E/O tomorrow.

We better, or someone'll get sporked n cut. lol jk jk

LOL, I can't wait for Svengali. Im so excited and .....I forgot how it went.

Just a question...since i practically know who on the board is a shipper im just wondering are you?....Oh and about your username...you dont like munchies?...

Bring on the sporks!!!
BTW Mary I added you to my fav's list on ff.net.

i think these next two episodes we will get e/o shipper. it will make a lot of fans happy

I hope so, Im going crazy over here.

Yes, I'm a shipper.

And I like Munch. I like the whole ensemble, aside from Lake. It's just a silly name--Wizard of Oz themed. The Munchkins were all like "Here, Dorothy, take this huge, plastic lollypop follow the yellow brick road to almost certain death!" Huuuuuge help they were, right?

shippers all the way!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

Oh, heyy, I have no idea what to say right now. I'm tired and I want school to end NOW!

ETA: Also, I'm going to try my hand at writing a screenplay for SVU. What do you guys think?

Good luck with that...when it is finished may I read your screen play....also I can't wait for Thanksgiving break...

I am 26, married, I'm an actor (so I've done character analysis before), I was the child of a nasty divorce, and I am completely 100% for EO.

I think that it's possible that the reason for your student's lack of EO has to do with group mentality and it could even stem from your opinion on the matter. Especially if they love you as a teacher, they're gonna want to know your opinion and they're goning to feed off ot it. Even if it's unconscious, it's very normal for a person to sway towards the opinion of somebody they look up to. I know I've done that before. Heck, I remember getting very passoinate about certain things (things that I really didn't give two snaps about) just because I thought it would get me a better grade. And it did. And I got passionate about something, so it's not a terrible thing, but I think that the pole could be a little tainted in this setting.

In reality, yes Kathy and Elliot trying to work things out would be awesome. But there's no excitement (IMO) in that. For me, this relationship has been building and building for years. There are many things that the writers have set up and left open, I'd like them to be answered. There needs to be something explosive. Many people are dissapointed with this season and I think it has everything to do with lack of EO--and the fact that, with El and Kath together the EO relationship is pretty much at a stand still. There's no suprise left for our veiwers to figure out- it's just two people, who are good friends, who happen to work together.

That relationship- on a drama series- has very little conflict situation to it, which pretty much makes it unentertaining. So- my point is- for entertainment reasons, we need the hint of possible EO.

And I personally would love to have one kiss.

winks

Awesome! another shipper....soon enough this board will be filled with them.... Ah okay that explain the name then as litte as they were was how much they helped...HEHE!

Yay, we gotta another shipper.

OH! MY! FREAK!....FINALLY SOME BENSON AND STABLER INTERACTION!!! DID YOU SEE THAT!!! DID YOU SEE THAT!!!! OLIVIA WAS HOLDING ELLIOT! OH MY FREAKEN BOB!!!!!!! THIS IIISSS SOOOO SAD!!! I PROBABLY MAKE NO SENSE RIGHT NOW BUT THATS OKAY BECUASE IM HAPPY!!!!...I CANT SLEEP!!!!!! OH MY GOD!!! I HAVE TO WATCH THIS EPISODE ALREADY! OH MY GOD!!!! I MISSED THIS FEELING! YAY!

LOL, shippers prepare to be happy next tuesday.

LOL! well said!

i will be happy and sad.

i will cry next week. he is my favorite character and he goes blind.

i will be crying but olivia holding elliot that was loveable.

Soo much E/O love next week.

OH wow! i just ran downstairs because my sisters yelled out "CYNTHIA! ELLIOT!!!" they usually do that to bother me yet i still ran downstairs..knocked into some walls o_0 but ran downstairs and well turns out he was Or is going to be interviewed and a certain question they're going to ask is if he'll hook up with benson ....SAY WHAT!!!... but i think its schedualed for tommarow on E...il let you know if i hear anything tho.

Anyone else disappointed with the lack of EO interaction in "Svengali"? I mean, yeah, he pulled her back from attacking Morton, and he went to her apartment after her attack. Still, they didn't even have much of a conversation. After the prank phone call and the pizza bomb with her name on it, I was expecting a bit more concern and worry from Stabler, like in "Stalked" and "Wrath."

To tiredmom: your "shipper" theory sounds interesting. What I'm thinking though, is that "shipping" television characters, would be like watching a romance unfold on-screen, similar to reading romance novels. I think its roots, at least psychologically, go back to fairy tales and the whole "and they live happily ever after" ending. I think it's why according to your profile and observation, shippers tend to be young, single, and female. For the most part, it's the girls who are fed these kind of stories while growing up. Waiting for Prince Charming to come galloping in a white horse is what some romance novels, most notoriously, the chick-lit variety, boils down to. Even though the characters are in a modern setting, and act independently, they all end up either engaged to be married, already married or even just simply together with the object of their affections after a series of obstacles in their way. Not that there's anything wrong with being a romantic (yes, I'm a shipper who also fit your profile), all I'm saying is that those students who said they "grew out of it" probably consider "shipping" Benson and Stabler and other characters in their situation akin to reading and believing in fairy tales.

I was dispointed, I wanted him to reassure her that things would be ok.

The only comment made was, "You really beat that crap out of him." I was like WTF?! Where's the emotion, the drama, the caring? There was nothing! I was so mad. The writers suck I tell you. SUCK!

LOL, I wanted him to hug her atleast or jusr a shoulder rub. Does anyone consider him holding her back a shipper thing?

I SMELL VICTORY!!

E/O SHIPPERS!!

NEXT WEEK!! AHHHHHHHH!!! IM EXCITED!

!!E/O!!
!!E/O!!
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!!E/O!!