Also, hisgirl posted in another thread this: http://forums.usanetwork.com/index.php?sho...385994&st=0

Which was the bunny rabbit scene from Sin. I was reading it and almost went crazy. The priest asks Elliot "what's stopping you from coming home" and before Elliot can answer, Olivia walks in to the perp saying "hey, Detective Sexy!" That is awesome. It's almost like they're indicating that Olivia's the reason he won't go home. But then again, it could just be me in my little EO bubble. God, I love this bubble.

Lol omg that has certainly made me laugh for once today,we'll see how it blows over But they deserve their own thread so they can go there and talk EO crap all they want. I tried to leave, but I couldn't stay away from this thread so I think i'll just chill on this one for a while and actually here something positive for a change on here.

Hey Welcome back!

Same here! I was a bit disappointed they didn't include that part in the 'Sin' eppy.

Oh yeah, HGFM, thanks for posting the link!

I think you misunderstood the exhale part. What I was going for is that we inhale the episodes that we like and exhale those that we don't. You know like, we inhale oxygen because it's what we need, and not carbon dioxide, which we exhale. Did I make that more confusing?

Hey mrslee! It's nice to have you back. What's that you say? A new chapter of "Senses?" Woo-hoo! (BTW, when I review your stories, I leave it under "blogworm@emailprovider.com"). I'll check it out.

Not to bring any negativity here, but I noticed that there seem to some bashing going on about the EK group. I know they tend to make fun of us and think we have wild imaginations. However, is it really necessary to do the same to them? That doesn't make us any better than those who mock us. So, I guess what I'm trying to say is let them have their own thread. In that way, they can get their rants and raves out of their system to avoid conflict elsewhere. Just offering my nickel.

let us be happy they have a room of their own now and let's enjoy what's ours.

Exactly, that's why I haven't said anything despite some of them already being rude. As long as they keep it in the thread they can do what they want.

Hey DetectiveMcPDQ, did you not like your name? This is she right?

It's not like I hate the E/K shippers...I like to hear what they have to say about the episodes and I like to see their input. I am just such a hard head I can't understand the E/K ness anymore. It's sickning!

yeah that is her.

OH OHHHHHHHH! Yeah I'm an idiot. I was all- Annialated? What is that girl on? LOLOLO!

But she left him first, and he was devistated. He didn't leave them at all.

Anywho, I wish everyone was as reasonable as you lol. I try to be, but...I can't be lol.

I think I finally figured out why I'm an EO shipper. It's not because I hate Kathy at all, but because Elliot is all Olivia has, and as a women, I hate to see her have nobody. They have been together since season 1 and all the promo pictures have them flirting with each other like somebody said on here, and what do people expect us to think. I mean Kathy was the one to say "Elliot I'm done and I'm leaving". So then was the prefect opprotunity for Elliot and Olivia, and then they crush it all down the drains when somebody (Elliot) can't keep it in his pants, and goes for a booty call. Way to go, Elliot.

true. why would a woman in her right mind dare leave her husband and take their kids away? she should be lucky to have elliot. was she insane??? elliot is such a man with a faithful intent as a husband. in all episodes i have watched, there is no other woman he goes out with except olivia, just for a coffee or any other events, i know. it's not that i hate kathy, but i just don't understand why she stood up and just left him? they can always talk over the differences, you know. she should support elliot no matter what.

Well now that they have actually gotten back together I totally agree with you that breaking them up would be forced and weird and terrible for the kids.

But ...there's always a but,--But however I do think that had they gone the divorce route - and not the ELi route- it would have been fine. I've said this before, but my parents got divorced when I was little and although it was crappy, I would not be the same person had I not been influenced by my step-mother. Everything happens for a reason. And I feel like the show kind of copped out by keeping them together. I felt like the divorce was more realistic and also- giving us more dynamic and excitement. Divorce happens and some divorces don't end unhappily either. I think Elliot and Kathy would have handled it well.

Yet they didn't go that way. Now that they've chosen EK and Eli, though, a divorce and EO would be or is going to be rough, which is why I think we've all been fighting so much lately. THere really is no good defense for Eo at the moment. Sorry. I hate saying that. But there's not. There used to be and now that there's not, discussion about it with non-shippers becomes personal and losable.

Don't get me wrong. I still love Eo more. I will never be an EK fan even if the stupid writers want to kill EO for all of us!
Pash on them!

The writers really messed up everything with this choice. Worst way to bring back a relationship EVER! Stupid Elliot!

sorry to hear that

I know many couples that stay together for the kids, but all they do is fight which makes living together stressful. Im my opinion, it would be best if they stayed seperated, but he was still invovled in the childrens lives.

That could actually work.

whatever happened to that Olivia & Chester thread lol looks like no one goes there anymore

Do you all think that Elliot should have found out that Olivia came back sooner from Oregon but wasn't ready after seeing him with Dani? It does add to the ambiguity of the E/O relationship though. Random thought, I know

olivia should at least come up and say hello to her best friend elliot. i was like: 'what's keeping you, woman? go there so he'll know you're back!'. i don't know what glued her feet to the ground.

I think it was that she thought Dani replaced her in Elliot's life. Olivia saw Dani as her replacment. I think she was angry that Elliot forgot about her and moved on soo fast. Not that they have anything romantically invovled, but that they had such a complex relationship, and he just moves on that easily. She was hurt, and since Elliot was all she had at the time, I don't blame her one bit. But only if Olivia knew that Elliot didn't want another partner at the time and only if she knew that she was his "precoius Olivia" I don't think she would have been mad.

Yeah and how about saying "hey Elliot there was this pretty woman looking for you, but she didn't leave her name". Seriously, how hard would that be.

I have no idea.

I totally agree with you. It also tells the kids that happiness is not as important as duty.

Unfortunately, it seems like the prevailing message today is "not only is my happiness more important than duty, its more important than anyone else's happiness". I think duty isn't given enough importance.

Sorry, back on topic. Although I'm not an E/O shipper, I definately see the chemistry between them.

it is a shame the writers didn't include that in their writings. i'd be very happy to catch the reaction of elliot's gorgeous face

Don't be. I mean, thanks, but like I said, my step mother was one of the best things that happened to me. I would be a shy awkward depressed human being without those influences and had my parents stayed together. So, that's one of the biggest reasons why I feel that anyone who opposes divorce %100 is just being silly. Doesn't mean I think people should get divorced left and right, but things happen, people change, and when two people are terribly unhappy they make their children unhappy.

I think Olivia is just what the Stabler family needed. And even now after it seems that they've killed the divorce plot, Olivia is still there and much needed.

Just curious, but how does the Stabler family need Olivia other than for her to watch Elliot's back as his partner?

She seems to be the person he talks to about family and home issues. There have been several episodes where Olivia has brought the family back to Elliot. The birthday cake scene. There's also a scene right before El and Kathy split up where El and Liv talk about it in the hallway. It's in like the 6th or 7th season. Liv tells him that Kathy has a point and to be more understanding and to go be with Kathy. As much as we all like to point out that Liv is in love with Elliot, she's also had some great moments where I think she deeply cares about Elliot making his family situation work out. She asks about Maureen's college forms in one episode. She knew about Kathy's doctor appoint and reminded him about it. She cares about this family. It's as if it's her vicarious family. And she's kind of been like a second wife to Elliot.

Really, Olivia is the friend that gives good advice and looks out for the well being of her friend, but that kind of thing trickles down to his family and his relationship with his wife. My husband and I have had a few huge issues come up throughout our relationship/marriage and without a third party to keep us in check or to bring us back to our senses it could have easily ended in divorce. I have no doubts in my mind that without Olivia, Elliot would not have gone back home.

She even reminded him how important family is in "Philadelphia". She saved his wife's life. She was the first person to hold Eli. She's made a big impression on the lives of the Stabler's and I think it's becoming more evident as the years progress.

It is bittersweet how Olivia puts Elliot and his family's needs before her own. However, it does tell you the kind of person she is.

So.....arrr...I know this is hypocritical, because I want everyone to be able to voice their opinions, but does anybody else want to vomit when they long on and see that "Thread that shall not be named"?

I'm sorry, but I refuse to warm up to the idea of EK. They strung us along for all of these years to do this to us! If the EO doesn't get better by the end of this season, I'm out. For shear fact that I refuse to watch a show that killed the best thing they had going for them. And for tricking me.

I wonder, does anybody know how they get the ratings? Like do you have to be watching the show live or do the numbers count if you're DVRing it. Cause technically my TV isn't on when I'm DVRing it. I might start rebelling now by not watching the show live. This all sounds so petty, but I want them to know how badly they just screwed their ratings with this EK crap! The ratings haven't dropped yet because I think people are still holding out, and there hasn't been enough time for it to sink in. I wonder how the strike will effect the ratings too?

Anyway, I know that is all very petty, but I'm kind of tired of the EO's being crapped on and ignored this season. I want TPTB to know what a crap job they've done and that they better damn well fix it!

I agree wholeheartedly. Kathy will never understand about his job. Elliot has a whole other side that she will never see and that my friends is one of the reasons that I am an E/O shipper.

ScarlettVonUttenburg Posted Today, 11:07 AM
There's also a scene right before El and Kathy split up where El and Liv talk about it in the hallway. It's in like the 6th or 7th season. Liv tells him that Kathy has a point and to be more understanding and to go be with Kathy

The scene you are talking about is from Monogamy which was back in Season Three. We find out Kathy left in Doubt in Season 6. In both cases, Olivia has to go after Elliot to find out what is wrong with him.
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I wonder, does anybody know how they get the ratings? Like do you have to be watching the show live or do the numbers count if you're DVRing it. Cause technically my TV isn't on when I'm DVRing it. I might start rebelling now by not watching the show live. This all sounds so petty, but I want them to know how badly they just screwed their ratings with this EK crap! The ratings haven't dropped yet because I think people are still holding out, and there hasn't been enough time for it to sink in. I wonder how the strike will effect the ratings too?

The Nielson ratings are compiled by by monitoring a statistically correct number of households at random. There are devices on their televisions that record what is playing on the television. There are logs where the members of the household record what they watched. They have started measuring the DVR usage and found there is a significant amount of time shifted viewing. In 2006, the company announced it will be revamping its system to better reflect all types of viewing .
Television ratings in general went down for a while during the strike. But the ratings for SVU have remained fairly consistent through Season 9. There is a thread here where they are given. The ratings for Season 9 are up from Season 8. I had posted those numbers but I don't remember what thread they are in.

My parents were divorced when I was about 12 years old. They fought all the time and were never really trully happy. I am not speaking for all children sweety, but I was actualy glad when they called an end to the painful home life my brother, sister and I were stuck in. When my dad remarried, I saw him, for the first time in a really long time, smile. He was truly happy and even though I secretly wished that he and my mom could have been that happy, I knew deep down that they couldn't. I was happy for him. I think that if, and I do mean if, the writers had just left the divorce alone and the seperation took, the kids might have been up to seeing their mother and father happy with someone new. Olivia and Elliot could have remained partners until season 10 came around. The writers did not 'have' to write Elliot wanting to go back home and getting Kathy pregnant. They did it for a reason. The reason is still unclear and that is what is driving me nuts.

Oh I am sorry to hear that. My parents are never divorced, so I can't feel the pain those Stabler children are having right now. They, too, don't discuss about their jobs. Like Elliot does. However, I met lots of friends who are in the same situation. I can see their pain every time they hear their parents fight. Sometimes, a husband or wife won't let their child near to either one. To be honest, I didn't want Elliot to go back to Kathy who had hurt my favorite cop in the first place.

And...there drops another fly. We lost another E/O shipper folks. This board is really starting to be painful.

I don't think you have to worry...the shippers will always out number the non shippers...lol...at least that is how it has been for the last three years I was on the board...

Awe...thanks. That makes me feel so much better... I need some coffee...

New shippers are bound to jump in here anytime. They just don't figure out the way to come here

I thought Kathy was the one who got to first hold Eli right after he came out- she was able to hold him, relieved that he was alright, healthy, and crying (which is a good sign for a healthy baby!) before she crashed.

I don't think anyone is kicking you out. I just think you love 'love.' LOL! I'm sitting with you 'on the fence.' I would love Elliot and Olivia to acknowledge their feelings for each other but at the same time I can see how much Elliot's family means to him. If it falls apart again, I'm not sure he would make it. But...only time will tell.

Noone's kicking you out hun. I went through a Elliot Kathy shipper faze in 06, so it's understandable. If you want to ship both that's your business and you have the right to, so don't let anybody make you think different okay. Sometimes I still see a little of my E/K side come out, but i'm to hard core E/O.