The term slowly but surly comes to mind. LOL!

i know

For real.

I read this fic this morning, also. It was great and very realistically possible. I wasn't crazy for the ending, but that's my die-hard romantic side clamoring for attention.

Thanks guys for all the 'welcomes'...that was nice. I forgot to add something last night...notice the scene in the hospital when Kathy tells him that the baby is his son and Elliot says, "I know"...notice Elliot's obvious lack of emotion, or at least what I would expect to be the correct emotion over the issue. Baby is his...that's a fact...he knocked her up and probably now feels pretty stupid. Doesn't stop him from loving the child, but certainly doesn't make him love Kathy anymore. I think they had a good run in their marriage and it's done...they just aren't convinced of it, yet. But, I think they both suspect as much and that's why all the constant "I love you's...it's like a self-reminder. The more you say it, the more you are likely to actually believe it. If I were Kathy, the lack of even a casual peck of a kiss would seriously piss me off.

Guys...I speak from first-hand experience here...regardless of what problems exist in your marriage, when someone walks out on you, unexpetedly and without preamble, it changes something inside of you forever where that person is concerned. Love them all you may, but it can't be reversed. The bell cannot be unrung. We were separated for 8 mos. and much like Elliot and Kathy...just believed we could fix it, make it work, this is us...we have history. So, we proceeded to build a new house together. Do I hear laughter? Yep..anyone out there with experience knows that having babies and building/buying homes does not fix a marriage...the problems still exist and you've just added pressure! I suspect that someone on the writing team for this show has that same wisdom and that may be where they are taking this for us. As much as we would have all liked it, to walk away from the divorce and into Liv's arms, clean and free, would have been too weird...and easy. Sad part is...Liv's character is too emotional and hurt right now to see this.

Okay...I'll shut-up now. BTW...we're still together...2 years now...and as we didn't resolve any issues really before moving back in together, we just moved them back in here with us. We just don't talk about them...in fact, we don't talk at all! That's what's gonna happen to E/K...just watch.

This is how I felt after I read your post YES!!!!!! Then OH
I am loving you right now. NO really- I love a lot of people on here- but I am so glad that you have joined the EO population. A: because FINALLY a married woman that isn't a stick in the mud for EK. Jesus, I swear to god the people over a certain age on this board are either in the most delirously wonderful relationship of their lives or they live in a dilusion that being unhappy to keep the peace is normal. BTW I'm married also. Not that that gives me any right to dog others, but I occasionally feel like I can put up a good fight with the EK non-shipp'n wives because I have some expereince in the married department. I'm so going to get burned for this post and for some reason....I don't care. OY- hopefully our EO parties have scared all of the Non-shippers away from this thread. ANyway B: You are so right, and because I've never actually experienced a seperation/divorce issue I just couldn't see it. But you are so right! GAH! My faith in EO has been restored! Hallaluia!!! Yeehaw-- Ah- I just channeled Barbra Bush. Somebody get me a drink.

I do feel bad about your situation though. Which is what brought me to the OH. I can't even imagine...that. But life happens and it's not always daisies and sunshine. That and one good piece of advice I got from a friend before we got married is to grow with each other. I tell yeah, as soon as I feel myself changing and not communicating the crap hits the fan. We're in the process of contemplating moving to NYC. HUGE step. My husband doesn't want to do it, but I'd move there tomorrow. And I didn't always want to. I've always said NYC is too cramped and intense for me, but something in the last year has been telling me that I need to do it. And it changed without him knowing. We've been fighting alot because of it. But nothing Divorceish. Just- the old - fix it before it gets worse fight. ANYWAY TMI. Ah- point is- I can see how not being able to forget the mistakes or changes could really put a damper on a relationship. I don't care what Dr. Phil says "Forgive and Forget" it's not always the easy fix. At any rate, Good Luck with that my friend. And EK- Ek is going down town! LOL!

Has anyone seen the Simpson's episode where Star from "The View" just says over and over "I'm going down town!" HAAAA- Yeah, EK just went there. And I am so random!

OH yeay!! EO! I'm such a spaz! Mary is going to hit me. And rightly so. I'm all EO not happening one minute and EO all the way the next.

I AM SO HAPPPPPPPYYYYYYY! I am not pregnant thank god! LOL! God does love me. LOL! The doctor told me that the reason I have been dizzy and nautious is because of my sinuses. I AM SO HAPPY I COULD HAVE A VERY LARGE DRINK!

Can I get a WHAT WHAT!

Have I mentioned that I love you and your siggy Scar? And KMW, welcome to the EO population. We're all awesome!

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!! That's absolutely fabulous! I mean, a baby is a good thing, but not at this point in your life! I was a little worried for you! SOOOOOO GLAD! Have some Taquila on me woman!

I probably had enough tonight for both of us! Went out with friends...but, it was fun. My sinuses make me feel all yucky, too. Everytime spring or fall arrives here in SC. I never knew it could do that until I lived here. Feel better and oh...I'm happy that the 'scare' was just that. USE PROTECTION & PREVENTION GIRL!!! Take care of you...

LOL! I did but protection is never 100% effective. I ain't goin' anywhere near men until I turn 30 yo. LOL! I guess that was the first and last preggy scare of my college career. LOL!

Glad everything worked out well for you Mary. You sounded like you were having a panic attack before.LOL Go enjoy your alcohol and Partay!

I truly believe the take I have on the E/O thing...it will happen...definitely, but whenthe writers have it right and not awkward or abrupt. I have faith in them.

Don't feel bad for me...I don't. I'm not a pessimist. Actually, I'm probably a type A personality...I look for the good in everything and a way to make the best of things. But...I'm not a martyr (sp.?) either (and I don't think Elliot is!). I'm a pretty proactive and self-sufficient person. So why haven't I left yet? I do love him...but, thrust me...there is a Plan B always in my head...a viable, workable one, too (that's important). AND...I never shut a door withit leaving a window cracked (unless I'm keeping out the goblins!). Soooooooooo...enough about that. BTW...too funny...I've had the itch to move to NYC this year, as well. Maybe it's a facination with this darn show?! That's overboard, huh?! I do have a sister on Long Island and a brother in Saratoga Springs (who loved for 20 years on Staten Island). Also, a very close, long time friend, who works in Manhattan. In fact, I just bought a very cheap airline ticket to go visit her at the end of January. Net is...I have some network there and the change of venue just might be what Dr. Phil ordered!

BTW...after reading that fanfic this morning ('Proximity')...I realized that I missed something. He doesn't whisper "Okay...", as I thought. She is correct, I watched again...he whispers "You're okay...". But regardless, he is still desperately trying to hold 'it' in...whatever 'it' is. When he says it, his face is the very picture of "I need to control this".

Don't feel bad...I myself am the product of a busted rubber! Dad said it even came in a gold wrapper, so my entire life, everytime I saw a gold coin condom, I would think...yup, there I am!!! HA! I don't want to get graphic here, but my son'd method of birth control had me doubled over in laughter. As a result, I am now, the proud Grandma of 2 precious girls and he and his lovely wife are great parents!

G'day KMW. Welcome to the boards. Just thought I'd say hello.

Awe...cute! I am only 24, will be 25 next month, go to college, live with my grandparents and am not in a relationship with anyone. I am in no way, shape or form able to take care of a child. I want to finish school, get a good job and find my own place. So therefore...no sex in the champane room! LOL!

Indeed she was right. I was watching it last night (again) and realised that he does in fact say "you're okay" which is totally awesome. Proxomity made me cry, so that's why my fic will end fabulously. Lol.

Mary, I'm so happy for you. I'm happy you're happy.

My energy is so depleted after crisis-talking every EO shipper I know. Everyone was calling doomsday on them and I was like...hold on a sec, back it up and breathe. I'm glad the worst is over for everybody.

I definitely have a little bit more of a restored faith in the writers after the hug that spoke volumes, but I don't know if it's so much the writers but the actors involved. But, if EO was to happen, the writing would have to be sen-bloody-sational.

WHAT WHAT! LMAO!

on the commands of Mary What what

O/E FOREVER!

Bom Chicka Wah Wah!

I'm glad you are not pregnant...I had a pregnancy scare in college too and it sucks knowing you aren't ready for a baby....

It's very, very scary. I mean if I were planning on it then that is one thing but I am not! LOL! At least not until I know I can financially take care of a child.

That is smart thinking. I'm glad everything worked out for you. I know that when I found out I was pregnant with my son Josh, I was married and had a nice little home. It just made the shift into motherhood so much more enjoyable without all the stress about finances and family.

"you're okay"

AHHHHHHHHH! Okay..I didn't hear that, but he DOES sya that. OH- that so confirms an EO ending. "You're okay" He was worried about two things- that baby and OLIVIA! AHHHH! SVU writers- they are off the hook! I can't handle it. I just watched the hug thing like ten times to see the "You're okay"

ok i have a feeling i am about to get yelled at here but i have been a bit disappointed this season. it seems like since olivia came back something has been missing between the two of them and that they are hardly ever even working together and sharing screen time. as far as the hug at the end of this weeks episode it felt like it was more of a "thank you for saving my wife and son" then it did any romantic reasons behind it. but that is just my opinion maybe i am just missing something. the one thing i am worried about is that if they get together it will ruin it. i'm not sure if i want them together as much as i just want them both to have the option to get together and have that "tension" and connection they use to have. it just seems like there is something missing. i don't know how to explain it.

No you will not get yelled at. This season has be pretty drought of Elliot/Olivia. The hug scene was okay but it wasn't shippery. That's what sucks. Hopefully the writers will change their crappy direction but...for now we must accept it and hope for more.

Doesn't it make the scene 100 times better? Now, I watch it, and my heart rises considerably. It's like....he was going to walk past her because his wife was in the other room and he shouldn't be feeling guilty that he cares as much (if not more) for Olivia. But when he's holding her in his arms, he just releases the guilt and the happiness in an "you're ok".

LOL, thats the truth.

Scarlett speaks the truth.
EO forever baby.

I knew you'd all come back around. All this doomsday speak on Wednesday (my time) and I'm here going...calm down, please? Lol. Now it's like everyone's all re-invigorated. It's fabulous!

Oh, and I still very much believe.

Laura I never stopped!
Hahah.

omg, you're hilarious. Well, I'll be your belief-buddy. Lol.

Hahah well thank you dearly.
Oh yes we are the bestest belief-buddies! LOL Its just cause we're so utterly Radical, we cant help it, it just comes naturally.

I love Radical, that's such a radical word. Lol. A lot like the EO relationship.

Oh Mi Gosh me too! Isnt it just such a radical word?! I say it like every day, not even joking. EO is radical, just so utterly radical.

I'm using all it's radicalness to get chapter 3 of Senses written. Chapter 2 is ready and waiting to be posted, but it's just going past the editors (aka Scar) one final time. I'll let you know when it's up and running.

Ok good. This makes me happy. Very. Fraking. Happy.

You gotta watch it twice. The first time is too intense everything is happening so quickly. But the second time - at least for me- I got more than a "Oh he's in love with Kathy" and a "Thank you Liv" from it.

Thats what I interpreted too. Scar are you gonna update your fic anytime soon? Pwease? For moi? LOL

Yeah, Scar would know better than most what it's like to watch it once and go crazy. Lol. I got so much more than a thank you. I've never thanked anyone quite like that, with so much emotion and so much....I dunno. I don't have words for it.

And yeah Jenne, when are you updating Ventral Tegmental fic, scar?

Seriously I need my fic fix. You and Laura are one in the few who can give it to me. Im addicted!

My brain is concoqting as we speak. SPelling??? AH- I don't give a flying squirrel about spelling most of the time. Mark Twain said something like "Mistaken grammar is creative. Without it we'd have no language." SOmething like that. I love Mark Twain BTW. His quotes are usually hilarious. I was never much of a Huckle Berry Finn gal, but his other works are fantastic and filled with humor. Especially his quotes.

Well I would have written a chapter tonight except there was a damn spastic cat in my basement. I don't knwo how it got there. Took us forever to catch the damn thing. And then I came here first and Hisgirl and Mad4U made me nuts on the Paternity thread so I had to retaliate. I couldn't resist it. Most of the time I just ignore it, because it's usually just a waste of time and effort, but I hadn't gone all out for the non-shippers in awhile, so I went for it.

So you can blame them for the lack of fic this evening.

So I just noticed that a certain person is still online and I have this feeling that I'm gonna get some long assed heinous reply from my reply to her reply...and I'm not sure I'm looking forward to it. I just like being in the positive enlightened mode. Some people are so frigg'n intense. I can't handle it. It hurts my Ventral Tegmental area. Ouch and Gulp

"Oh my whatever are you talking about my dear?"-She says in an innocent voice.
Hahah.

the episode comes on tonight

It IS more than a hug! Trying to pretend that I was them...he was gonna walk on and let it go, but couldn't. I'm telling you, babies don't fix marriages and that's where the writers are going with this. Makes sense, beacuse the Elliot we all know and love would do nothing less than a good try at it. AND...the Liv we all know and love, would expect and want nothing less of him. Makes it easier for the two of them to not feel guilty later on, but of' course, they aren't thinking that now....they believe the E/O is buried. Someone in an earlier post (too lazy to go back and find it) said that Kathy (my name, BTW...HA!) would have to be the one to save us here by sending him to Olivia. I think is was said in humor, but I actually think that is exactly what the writers may have her do. She'll be the one to say that 'we can't fix this with a baby', 'I was terrified when I found out, but now I'm good', because she'll realize that things in their relationship are no better than before. No talking about his day, work, or intermost feelings; not spending the expected or appropriate amount of time at home, etc. It will be written all over him and Kathy will do the 'right thing' for all three of them, 'cause remember guys, she cares way more for Olivia now than she did before. I think the writers needed it this way. I mean, don't you think they needed to think long term, how they will end this thing? Kathy will probably say something like 'we love each other sure, and always will...we have a family together and a past...but, you don't love and need me like you do her...and I don't love and need you like she does. So, go to her...be happy. Let me move on.' Sure, there will be tears and regret, but Kathy will be the hero. I used to not like her, but after Tuesday's episode, I think she will be the one to fix this mess and she knows it, 'cause he'll never do it.

Go ahead, argue with me...I don't care!

Well I updated my fan fiction "Let Me Let Go" and I am going to be working on my other story to day as well. There! You have your fan fiction craving! LOL! *PUCKERS LIPS* WUV YOU!

Hmmmmmm.....I bet I can guess! Lets see is it.....a member who's name starts with....an H?

o my goodness! what have i been missing! im gone for one day and all of a sudden, maddness! lol
what's going on with Scar and this "H" person? i think i know who this "h" person is....but idk!
so yea how is everyone?!
well gotta go catch up on these threads so i can be up to date! lol