I have just found this message on the 4400 french fan message board
http://forum.4400-center.com/viewtopic.php?t=428




Which I think should mean (my mother helped me translating):

"Hello,

The main actors have already signed for 2 more seasons. The crew entourage, the production, and in short words the whole world are fine with these series. USA Network itself is satisfied. This show isn't ready yet to close the curtain.

See you this summer for season 5

Source: I work for M6 fictions"

M6 appears to be the french TV channel that airs the 4400. So let's hope this is true and this show is indeed out of the limbo!!

2 more seasons!! So much can still happen! I am already excited!

The official announcement will come from USA Network. Nowhere else.

Indeed, I said this is a rumor.. rumors are normally unofficial, aren't they?

Cool rumor, would love it if it were true! I had read a while back that Joel, Jacqui, Patrick and perhaps Conchita had signed for 5 seasons when the show first started. I haven't seen anything about them adding another season on to their contracts.

Mmmm... two more seasons.

*Stop killing the fantasy folks!*

That was a polite way of saying rumors are less than worthless, so why bother spreading them?

This is probably a difference between our cultures: in my country, we tend to give more importance to what is unofficial, than we do to what's official. For us, officiality is the mere appearance, while unofficiality is the real thing that lies underground. There is a very ancient latin saying: vox populi, vox dei which means literally "the voice of the people is the voice of a god" and it suggests to pay attention to rumors, since they are most likely true.

I don't know about rumors being most likely true, Allart-in my experience, something that everybody knows is most likely false. But what the heck-your rumor isn't hurting anybody, so spread it as fast and far as you like. It might be true, and if it is, then it will be good to know sooner rather than later about another season. And if it's not true, there's no harm done.

Good point Rockingmule, at least this rumor gives us hope! Some people are just so pessimistic.

rumors are good it make us happy that their might be 2 more season.....

False hope.

Someone with a pessimistic point of view might say, "there is not going to be a season 5." Those of us who are realistic prefer to wait for the facts.

No one needs rumors to be optimistic. We are all free to think there is going to be a season 5. Rumors do absolutely nothing but create confusion among people who are easily confused, and the rest of us have to put up with the mess.

The voice of the people is not going to renew this show. Only the network can do that.

Well, even if it is just a rumor, I really hope it turns out to be true. I wish USA would go ahead and let us know something, one way or the other. I am not good at waiting.

Hope is hope, wether it's false or not. Hope is like wishing, nothing is ever definite, so it's not exactly false. Until anything is official, with or without this rumor, we can all still have hope, so PLEASE stop trying to rain on our parade! As Rockingmule said, this rumor is not hurting anyone, just giving us a little more hope, false or not.

In your opinion, not shared by most people. When you artificially inflate the chances of something coming true, and it does not, the false promises cause much more resentment and hurt.



If you prefer to pretend that lies never hurt anyone, go ahead. I prefer to continue telling the truth.

Alex, I have to ask you, who besides you has replied negatively to this post? I wish to understand who besides you make up most people here. You are the only one that seems to be bothered by this so far.

First, you are mistakingly assuming this board represents the entire world. I am not limiting my comments to this board. In the real world, most people do not prefer false hope or false promises.

Second, even if I were the only one to disagree about this on this board, I would have exactly the same "right" to post my opinion as you or anyone else.

I never said anything about lies not hurting anyone. There is a big difference between a lie and a rumor. A rumor is something someone has heard and does not know if it is real or not, but they are sharing it just in case it might be. A lie is something someone says when they know that it is definitely not the truth. The topic creator is trying to share his hope with the rest of us and I see nothing wrong with that. It is by no means false hope. We are all hoping that the show will be renewed anyway, what's wrong with sharing something he's heard?

Now if he worked for USA and knew that the show was being cancelled and came here anyway and told us that it was being renewed, that would be a lie and would be giving false hope.



I don't believe you speak for most of the real world any more than most of the posters on this forum. Yes you have the same right to post your opinion as the rest of us, but don't assume your opinion is the same as anyone else's, on this board or in the real world!

Very true, Marcofan. There is absolutely no resemblance between a lie, and a rumor that the person spreading it admits to being a rumor. There is no harm in a rumor, unless the person knows it is false. Then it becomes a lie. Since the rumor here is known to be only a rumor, and known to be something that may or may not be true, there is no danger of anyone being harmed. ONE person is not happy with the rumor, and will continue to complain about it, but that is of no significance. The rest of us understand that the rumor may or may not be true, and we are not going to resent anyone if it turns out that there is not going to be another season.

You said that hope and false hope are the same thing.



uh...no, not much.



Unfortunately, I am not eloquent enough to express my utter disgust over gossip. Someone making things up because they wish they were true, and other people spreading these lies, is something I find infuriating.

If you want to give people hope, talk about things that are real. The two-year contract mentioned in the original post is practically impossible at this point, for a show that has been renewed year-to-year even when it was astonishingly successful. This is the kind of false hope that is likely to cause more harm than good in the long run.



Believe what you want. I do not "ass u me" my opinion is the same as everyone else's. I know some people prefer to be lied to, but most people are, more likely than not, harmed by false hope and false promises. This is human nature, which can be observed, not a baseless "opinion."

I will give you a couple of easy examples. In a romantic relationship, people can be led on, feel great for a short while, and then have their inflated hopes crushed and destroyed violently, or they can be honest about their expectations and be merely disappointed. Most mentally healthy people would prefer honesty and disappointment. In the case of a terminal disease, most mentally healthy people do not want doctors to be extremely optimistic. The surviving relatives might feel better about those chances for a short while, and then have to pay with a much stronger sense of resentment and betrayal for the rest of their lives, even if they are not directly lied to, because unrealistic expectations are just another kind of lie.

QUOTE(JordanFan)Alex, I have to ask you, who besides you has replied negatively to this post? I wish to understand who besides you make up most people here. You are the only one that seems to be bothered by this so far.[

quote name='alex20020712' date='Sep 23 2007, 12:53 PM' post='604186']
First, you are mistakingly assuming this board represents the entire world. I am not limiting my comments to this board. In the real world, most people do not prefer false hope or false promises.

Second, even if I were the only one to disagree about this on this board, I would have exactly the same "right" to post my opinion as you or anyone else.

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First, I do not think this board represents the whole world. However, the only ones responding to this thread are the people on this board, and out of those people, you are the only one who seems to be bothered by this rumor.

Second, I never said you didn't have the right to post your opinion on this board. Please show me where I ever said that?

Third, unless you have statistics that show that most of the population of this world prefer not be believe that hope is hope, then please post that proof, otherwise, how are you qualified to speak for anyone else, how do you know what the rest of the world thinks?

If I may pipe in, I think this thread is just fine. It was clearly labelled as a rumor. I see it as simply more information for people who want more information on the show's fate. I took it like this: "Look guys, here's this source that says 4400 is coming back. I don't know if it's true, but it's something for you all to think about."

Oh, and false hope could be a lie, but I think only if it's spread deliberately as a lie. If someone in good faith gives hope for something that turns out not to be...well, that's not something spread out of malicious intent.

I'm not going to argue with you anymore alex, because we all think what we want and you're just going to keep posting these negative replies no matter what anyone else says. I'd just like to say, though, you're not a Christian, are you? And I hope you're not married or in any kind of romantic relationship, because you seem to have strong issues with anything that is not absolute fact, which includes hope, faith and trust.

You keep talking about mentally healthy people, and you seem to believe anyone who is mentally healthy would think just like you. Your attitude doesn't seem very mentally healthy to me. Someone who cannot trust or have any kind of faith in anything does not seem very mentally helathy. And if you are right and I'm the one who is not mentally healthy, then I'd rather be that way than not be able to believe in anything. I like having hope, I love and trust my boyfriend and I believe in God, and I don't believe I'm in the minority on these things.

You are not in the minority on these things. And for someone who bases everything so much on fact, if Alex does represent the views of the rest of the world, then let him prove it, since he seems to require proof from us so much.

At this point, I'm going to say that I think less harm has been done by the rumor, which all but one understand to be a mere possibility that may or may not happen; than the harm done by the nasty reaction against us hoping for another season.

Well, thanks to all those who have understood my intentions and defended me. And thanks to alex too, who, keeping this thread bumped, even if he didn't want, contributed to spread this rumor (that I hope some much is true)!

You're welcome, Allart! And thank you, Alex-keep the thread alive.

First, your quotes are broken.

Second, do you have statistics confirming most people prefer not to be stabbed repeatedly in the eye? No? We must have no other way to know, then.

Good for you, even though I have no idea what that has to do with anything. It was certainly not what we were talking about.



You also have a fascinating reading comprehension problem. Unfortunately, this leaves you unable to keep up with a discussion. I never said hope was wrong or useless. I was talking about false hope and unfounded rumors, and how they do more harm than good in the long run. This has nothing to do with your boyfriend or "God."

Nothing good can from this.