We bring it up in almost every thread... so here it is. Post the similarities.

ST: TNG - Trills - creatures who need a host body to exist

4400 - Marked Entity - apparently need a human host to exist

ST: TNG - Story of evolving humanoid race causes fear, hate, those evolving are jailed, killed.

4400 - Promicin evolves humans to have abilities, yet apparently leads to a 2 classed society that wars with each other, culminating in a catastrophe and mankind to die out.

"No Exit"

The whole episode was "Classic" Trek. From start to finish, I was wondering where Picard, Data,Worf, Geordi, Rowe, Ricker etc. were. Or Quark, Sisko, Jadzia, Julian, and Kira. Anyone who has ever seen any Trek, recognized this episode.

ST - Vulcan grip (what is the real name?) used by Spock to cause temporary unconsciousness

4400 - P+ in Promise City who bends her head to the side, causing temporary unconsciousness

OMG Sacrilage!!!

I've seen every episode of Original, TNG, DS9 and fisrt 3 seasons of Voyager. Read all the books, had all the companion guides and tech manuals. I have all the movies on VHS and DVD. All the cheesy QVC stuff --had it. The only year I let my kids go trick or treating--they had on TNG uniforms lol.

I have no idea--the Vulcan neck pinch is what I always called it. LOL

Let's not also forget that Joel is married to Melanie Shatner, William Shatners daugther.....KIRK! (in my best Ricardo Montelban voice)

Yes it was similar to at least one ST episode, both original and TNG. One in particular, from TNG, the ship has mechanical failures and there are groups of crew members in various parts of the ship, trying to figure out what they should do. Deanna is on the bridge, with OBrien trying to figure out if anyone in Engineering is alive and can get the ship's systems back up. Picard is with 3 children, in the elevator shaft. Crusher si with Jeordi in cargo bay, trying to put out plasma fire (or some kind of fire). They all have to work together amongst themselves, but also to save the ship overall.

There is a few of them. One that comes to mind is Picard wakes up in a room with one or two "redshirts" and they are captive.

Just saw the one the other day where Picard is on a planet with the being that speaks in metaphors and he has to try and figure out what he is saying.

The Beveryly episode, she is on the bridge and the ship starts disappearing one piece at a time, until its just the bridge. It's because her idiot son had made some kind of "bubble' and she was trapped in it. She had to figure out how to get out.

ST:TNG - Ryker is caught between a variety of realities while captured.

Another diff/show, Worf is returning to the Enterprise via a shuttle and gets caught in a rift of some sort, and he bounces between numerous alternate realities, where he has different jobs as well as is married to Troi.

Another show - Picard is bounced between time frames by Q and tries to figure out how to fix the problem so that he can remain in the right time frame.

4400 - Life Interrupted - Tom meets and falls in love with Alana in an alternate reality.

ST: TNG - several crew members (inlcuding Riker and Worf) are being taken off the Enterprise while they sleep and are experimented on by aliens.... the room they are brought to is so distinct that it is how they figure out what is going on. They recreate the operating room in the holodeck.

4400 - The Room, where the Original 4400s are brought to for whatever is done to them. Tom is brought there several times (Life Interrrupted, One of Us), Maia is brought there in Gone.

The operating rooms have a very similar freaky, mysterious mood to them.

and my favorite no exit similarity--the "Causality Loop". 10 minutes of show repeated for an hour LOL.

Life Interupted/worf --ya that was a great epi.

That's one of my favorites. Love seeing Kelsey Grammar as the captain of the ship that's been in the loop for so long!

Kyles coma/possession

Epi with Deanna--she is in a comma that is triggard by some alien race intruding in her mind.
she also had an epi where she was having nightmares and it was because of the some alien race (was it the Trio epi)

then there was one where aliens took over Deana, worf and i think obrien--and they take hostages in ten forward I think. It's been awhile since i've seen them all.

Good possession example - it's very very close to the Marked, since it was done with trickery, and they were prisoners trying to escape their prison.

The possession story line is used a few times, in both the orginal and TNG.

In the original, Kirk, Spock and some woman (who played the replacement doctor on TNG) are embodied by the energy of aliens who claimed to have seeded the universe with humanoids.

Also, Spock moved his consciousness to McCoy in one of the ST movies (name is escaping me at the moment).

Doctor Polaski --hated that season---she was anti-Data

Spock died in The Wrath of Khan and was put on the Genisis planet, They found him in The Search for Spock and he was back to his old self in Voyage Home. McCoy had his "conscience' from the end of Khan to either the end of Seach or the beginning of Voyage--I remember in Voyage him saying he was glad spock was out of his head.

Yes, I can't stand that actress for some reason, and she made a worse female doctor than Dr Crusher. I loved the time Q turned Crusher's head into a barking dog. LMAO!


GAH! *so embarrassed I forgot it was Wrath of Khan*

WofK is like the only Original ST movie I liked.

The de-aging of Isabelle. There is an epi of TNG where Picard, Rowe and Guinan are turned into children and have to "outwit" the adults to take back the ship.


and on the transfering of conscience--Data "downloaded" all of his memories into his "brother" in Nemisis, before he died.....

and I think to some extint the whole show is "star trek:Voyage Home"..... In Voyage, Earth is being destroyed by that cylindar and they figure out that it is trying to communicate with Humpback whales. They travel back to the late 80s and find "George and Gracie" and take them back to the future to save humanity....and take back the scientist...they never explained that ripple affect....do you think anyone missed her and the whales they were suppose to track?

The PFTF say there is a catastrophe, they find that it can be prevented if they have more P+s, the only way to do that is to go back in time and create them. They "kidnap" 4400 people, alter them, put them back and the caos begins.....
it's not exactly the same, but its messing with the timeline.

And the 1st TNG movie ---generations--that was all about time travel and time line. And the "ribbon" is Alana --its a fantasy reality and those that are in it --can communicate to each other in it and see what the other is experianceing etc.....

and First Contact--the Borg go back in time to take over the earth ....

why didn't they just put them back in their original time/place of abduction? I know they came up with the startzle mutation thing in season 3, but...I don't know where I was going with that thought.....

Might be time to re-post this from last year's Funny Pictures and Captions thread:














BTW, for anyone who didn't get the "rogue" one, here's a hint: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001004/ (see item #37)

My sarcasm indicator is flashing red and needs to be scratched.


The obligatory child character that the writers do not know what to do with:

TNG: Wesley
4400: Maia



The search for god leads to an egocentric lunatic:

ST: Movie #5
4400: Jordan Collier


Sexual tension among the crew:

TNG: Riker and Deanna
4400: Marco and Diana, Tom and Diana (well, there was a moment)


Bizarre markings:

DS9: Dax (was that her name?)
4400: Kyle's map


The crochety doc:

ST: Bones
4400: Burkhoff


The nerd to tease:

ST: Spock
TNG: Data
4400: Marco


The annoying parent:

TNG: Deanna's mom, Dr. Crusher
DS9: The captain guy
4400: Tom, Diana, Richard


Time travel to prevent a catastrophe:

ST: Movie 4, save the whales!
ST: Movie #8, fight the Borg, help a drunk drink and drive
ST: Outsmart the Nazis
4400: Kill off the P-'s




Edit: Sisko. That was the captain's name.

Shape-shifting

DS9: Benson's buddy (OK, I looked it up in case no one remembers the show Benson -- his DS9 name was Odo)
4400: Boyd

excellent, bahmo!

I am actually a bit surprised that I remembered as much as I did. I bet I have seen 2/3 of the originals, 1/2 the TNG episodes, maybe 1/4 of DS9, and perhaps one episode of Voyager (along with the first 8 movies), but I don't think I have watched more than an hour combined over the last 10 years.

it might be a bit farfetched but they both made me sad hence the similarity,i know!
data dying in nemesis was so sad i was like why,,,,,,,,?????????? and yes i know he transmitted his memory to his brother but even though they looked alike it's not data
4400: lilly dying and coming back in 'one of us' wasnt really her and still was very sad and hard for those who had to see her again namely richard/ TNG all the crews gonna have to get use to "new data" who isnt really him and not just for an epi!!!

Not anywhere near the same. The Trill co-host is a physical manifestation that joins with the body of it's host, and the two personalities merge which means all past major host continue for several generations. That plus not all trill have symbiots only a minor fraction of the population.

mosty it's also cause i like trill and the marked are jerks

You poor soul.. go watch the entire next generation and Deep Space Nine.. best series imho.

Kinda like the episode where Picard was taken off the ship and placed in a room with three other aliens (one an ensign) and they have to figure out how to escape.

Well it's true, none of our examples are exactly alike, and the trill reminded me of the Marked, regardless of the differences... besides:

- some fans think the Marked is a physical joining vs just energy

- apparently the Marked does remember the past - as EvilTom remembers what he didn't accomplish as "Matthew" and also remembers participating in impregnating Lily.

the marked just aren't as trilling

*points to Jadzia Dax poster*

oh did you read the lives of Dax?

True, plus they're EVIL!



No I haven't.

It's a great book and it's broken down into smaller stories about every one of Dax's past lives. It really is fascinating and a good read. Great insite into each of the phases of Dax

I may just check that out! Thanks!

ST DS9: Past Tense - Sisko assumes the role of a pivotal historic figure in order to restore the future.

4400: JC returns after death to save the future



Past Tense is one of my favorite ST epis of all time.

*is disturbed since Sisko is a hero and jordan may or may not be one*

Ahhh but Hero is in the eyes of the beholder

Indeed! I think Jordan will end up being a hero. There will be doubt, he will look bad at times, but in the long run, he will be a hero.

another thing,

DS9 the changlings (odo's people) had the collective experince when they all liquified, so they experienced each others memories etc


Try the Pie----they ate the pie and experienced each other's memories....

***I remember him in Benson, Rene Aberjunois ( I know I misspelled that), he was also the voice of Chef Louis in Disney's the Little Mermaid.

Now that is something that I didn't know.

hmmm


Tom = Kira?

Diana = Dax?

Marco = O'Brien?

I think marco is more of a data

but O'Brian is neater

Nanotec is shown in a ST:TNG epi. Wesley creates these nanites and the get loose on the ship and they start causing problems. His solution was to set "trap" for them. I always thought that odd. LOL.

Everytime I think about the ST parallels, I think about how ST resolved storylines.

Phanta - I bet you can guess where my mind goes with that, right?

IS it the same place mine goes? LOL

Dunno, that could be scary. But we know how they typically wrap up a stories that have to do with warring factions.

That is one thing I liked about the Trek books, sometimes they'd add some backstory that you'd never see on screen. Even though maybe that isn't what the series writers had in mind, the book authors would make it make sense.

Loved the finale of TNG. My fav scene is the end with them playing poker and Deana says "You were always welcome." It was such a great moment. Data playing poker always made me laugh for some reason.

Seasons 4-6 were consistently the best shows for TNG. I couldn't wait week to week for it come on.

Tell me about it. I ate, slept, breathed it. I read the books, had all the tech manuals. I even had the cheesy QVC communictors. Data/Brent Spiner always was my favorite on STNG. Brent Spiner has the most beautiful blue eyes....but I digress

DS9 was good, but I trailed off towards the end, so I never got into the war with the Dominion. Sisko and Quark were my favs on that show. I remember when I saw Avery Brooks as Sisko WOW....