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Bubba_Bridges
Hi Bubba here, this is a small write for next week's episode entitled, If You're So Smart, Then Why Are You Dead?

Courtesy of: TV Guide

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Spoiler:
Episode Detail: If You're So Smart, Then Why Are You Dead? - Psych

Students at a school for prodigies suspect one of their teachers is a murderer, so Shawn and Gus become lecturers to investigate.
PsychedOut
Spoiler:
Shawn and Gus as teachers?
OH MAN that promises to be hilarious
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PsyFanPinapplejuice
this episode is going to be hysterical!
Spoiler:
This episode will be the closest someone(clasmates) discovers Shawn's fake psychic ability.
Also, Gus is interested in taking the case, because he once tried to/applied for the school.
horselover77
Sounds like another good episode is on its way. Does anyone know when the season finale is? Not that I want to see the season end.
Bubba_Bridges
Hi Bubba here, ...

QUOTE (horselover77 @ Aug 18 2007, 10:50 AM) *
Sounds like another good episode is on its way. Does anyone know when the season finale is? Not that I want to see the season end.


Friday, September 14th, 2007.
Mejay
Looks hilarious! I can't wait smile.gif

Ahh September 14th? That's pretty soon..
PsychedOut
Whoa, that's the actual season finale? ohmy.gif
I thought they'd do it like in season 1, where they take a hiatus, then come back next year.
That doesn't seem like very many episodes at all for a season.
Teresa1643
QUOTE (PsychedOut @ Aug 18 2007, 12:22 PM) *
Whoa, that's the actual season finale? ohmy.gif
I thought they'd do it like in season 1, where they take a hiatus, then come back next year.
That doesn't seem like very many episodes at all for a season.

USA promotes the final episode of the summer half-season as a season finale, probably because they draw in more viewers that way, but season two will continue this winter with six or seven more episodes.
horselover77
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Friday, September 14th, 2007


That is not bad. Atleast there are still 3 new episodes left.
PineappleTastic
That episode looks totally promising.
PsychedOut
QUOTE (Teresa1643 @ Aug 18 2007, 03:44 PM) *
USA promotes the final episode of the summer half-season as a season finale, probably because they draw in more viewers that way, but season two will continue this winter with six or seven more episodes.


Ahhh okay, that's what I was hoping for. Thanks for clearing it up! smile.gif

This episode will be the last one I can see before moving into my dorm!
Leesha
This episode looks to be a riot. Can't wait, as usual!
Bubba_Bridges
Hi Bubba here, glad it's Friday, looks like a another great episode tonight. Tell everyone! tongue.gif
PsychedOut
I'll be at my friend's house when the first showing is on, and I know they'll refuse to watch it haha. They just have a thing against all my shows tongue.gif
I'll probably have to catch it at 1am!
PsyFanPinapplejuice
QUOTE (PsychedOut @ Aug 24 2007, 09:39 AM) *
I'll be at my friend's house when the first showing is on, and I know they'll refuse to watch it haha. They just have a thing against all my shows tongue.gif
I'll probably have to catch it at 1am!


duct tape'm to the seat! haha.
Leesha
QUOTE (PsychedOut @ Aug 24 2007, 09:39 AM) *
I'll be at my friend's house when the first showing is on, and I know they'll refuse to watch it haha. They just have a thing against all my shows tongue.gif
I'll probably have to catch it at 1am!



I watch for the 2nd time at the later showing. For some wacko reason, my questions come at the wrong time via text. I know what time zone I live in and that we do daylight savings and all, so I'm not sure what the glitch is. Anyway, it isn't a hardship to watch twice!
Leesha
Anyone else around whilst the show is on?
PsyFanPinapplejuice
QUOTE (Leesha @ Aug 24 2007, 09:01 PM) *
Anyone else around whilst the show is on?


I'll be watching...
Bubba_Bridges
Hi Bubba here, I'm watching now.
Leesha
LOL! Love Shawn's impression of Gus!

And Lassy's ex-wife's gift. . .cash. . .
Bubba_Bridges
Hi Bubba here, I think Jules should be the primary. She's a good cop.
PsyFanPinapplejuice
QUOTE (Leesha @ Aug 24 2007, 09:10 PM) *
LOL! Love Shawn's impression of Gus!

And Lassy's ex-wife's gift. . .cash. . .


this ep is great!
Leesha
I love that there are 628 rules. Yeesh.

And somewhere on this planet, calculus is remedial math. That's horrifying to me!

Love the Right Said Fred reference!
PsyFanPinapplejuice
QUOTE (Leesha @ Aug 24 2007, 09:21 PM) *
I love that there are 628 rules. Yeesh.

And somewhere on this planet, calculus is remedial math. That's horrifying to me!

Love the Right Said Fred reference!


calculus...i shutter at the word...give me Geometry or Finite anyday!
Leesha
Kadeem Hardison!

"We're girls!"

Physisics! Love this!
ladymahogany
I don't know about anyone else, but I was really proud of O'Hara tonight. biggrin.gif
Bubba_Bridges
Hi Bubba here, ...

QUOTE (ladymahogany @ Aug 24 2007, 09:54 PM) *
I don't know about anyone else, but I was really proud of O'Hara tonight. biggrin.gif


Me too. Great episode. cool.gif
PsyFanPinapplejuice
I wonder why Gus's parents didn't allow him to attend?...nevermind.

Good episode, This was definitely Maggie Lawson's episode! Chief Karren Vick wasn't in this ep. overall good.
ladymahogany
I'm wondering that too. I was really surprised that Shawn didn't have anything to do with it, because he was usually the one meddling in Gus' life.
TexasScaper
QUOTE (ladymahogany @ Aug 24 2007, 10:02 PM) *
I'm wondering that too. I was really surprised that Shawn didn't have anything to do with it, because he was usually the one meddling in Gus' life.



Yes I really thought it'd turn out that Shawn was really the one responsible for turning down the school instead of Gus' parents.
SillyPrincess
Missed the pineapple, did anyone see it?

LOVED the episode, but I missed last week's show..why is Lassie in a sling?
sophie58
I just had to log on and post for the first time after tonight's show. Shaun's reference to "Eddie Macon's Run" when he was trying to get Jules to say Kirk Douglas almost made me fall off my couch. "Eddie Macon's Run" was a 1983 movie based on a novel written by James McLendon, who was living in my hometown when he published the book in 1980! I absolutely love the obscure references on this show, but this time it was one that actually hit close to home. What a blast!
Bubba_Bridges
Hi Bubba here, ...

QUOTE (Silly_Princess @ Aug 24 2007, 10:29 PM) *
Missed the pineapple, did anyone see it?

LOVED the episode, but I missed last week's show..why is Lassie in a sling?


QUOTE (sarcasmlove @ Aug 19 2007, 07:18 PM) *
In the production blog it clearly stated "There was some scrambling during my first day on set because we got a phone call telling us that Tim Omundson, who plays Lassiter, broke his collarbone while mountain biking."

Mystery solved.
Leesha
QUOTE (sophie58 @ Aug 24 2007, 10:32 PM) *
I just had to log on and post for the first time after tonight's show.


Welcome to the board! Glad you joined us! biggrin.gif
Leesha
I loved this episode. I thought the 'drunk on power' thing was a lot of fun and O'Hara had a great story line. Poor Gus, though. Felt sad for him. Bless his heart! I was glad it wasn't shawn who meddled; was thinking that would be a predictable bit, and then it was the parents. We're learning a lot about Gus' family this series.
sarcasmlove
Calculus as remedial math?! That made me want to cry. *shakes*

Anywho, I thought this episode was awesome as usual. I was cracking up left and right throughout it. Yeah, all and all it was great.

It was a pretty good character piece. I loved Jules in this episode, Lassi was great too. Gus being Shawn's fairy was very nice as well. And Shawn well Shawn is always Shawn. He seemed really offended by the crows feet comment lol.

Yeah, I loved how the kids almost made Shawn.

Yeah, great episode. I can't wait til September 7th... sad.gif
PsychedOut
Great episode, as always!!

-Jules getting a chance as head cop was great. She's def. been deserving that.
-I seriously lmao'ed when Gus and Shawn were in the teacher's lounge, and they went to talk to the gym teacher, and Gus slide off the table...hehe that was great.
-When Shawn sent the kid out of the room for saying that he wasn't a psychic, that was great too. Moments like that are really funny to me.
-Physisics!!! Hahaha AWESOME class, I wanna take it if Shawn's the teacher!

Loved it, as always. I usually like shows based on schools like that, especially when you add Shawn and Gus into the mix.
Looking forward to the next one!
bigkitty_4
Loved the references to 21 Jump Street, loved that show. My kid often complains our computer is a dinosaur, so I laugh when the kids remarked about Henry's. Calculus as remedial math, eww! I knew that no math teachers were in the lounge also when no one responded to Shawn's fractions. It was fun to hear Right Said Fred coming out of Shawn's mouth; especially when I used the Right Said Fred during the Title game to fit the description on one of the titles over there. Like everyone, I thought Shawn was responsible for Gus not getting in that school; here it was his parents. Maybe, it like Shawn said and Gus' parents didn't want to separate them since he was his only friend. Believe me, private schools are not what they are crack up to be. For a while my son and my daughter were in private school, my son is happy that he is now in the public school. Hope Gus never finds out about Henry running over his dog.

Great episode.
Liv
QUOTE (PsyFanPinapplejuice @ Aug 24 2007, 09:57 PM) *
I wonder why Gus's parents didn't allow him to attend


I suspect that a large part of it was that they didn't want to split up Shawn and Gus. Lifelong friends are hard enough to find for the average child, but for two boys like Shawn and gus I imagine it would be even more difficult because of their obviously high IQs. Finding a peer that you can relate to in a regular school when you have an extremely high IQ makes it difficult. There would have been a lot of other kids in that school with extremely high IQs, so finding peers who could understand and relate to him wouldn't have been a problem for Gus, but finding peers who were just as smart as he is, *but* could also have fun and encourage him to be a child while he still had the chance would have been extremely hard to find anywhere, public school or private. I think they had his best interests at heart.

As to why they didn't just say that rather than say that they couldn't afford it or that it was a long drive, I think was a matter of diplomacy. Parents walk a very high, narrow tightrope with their kids. You have to look at your child as objectively as you can when these kinds of decisions arise, and you have to be aware of their strengths and weaknesses and their capabilities, and be honest with yourself. That is difficult enough, but then when your child asks you why you decided something, or if you think they can do something, it gets even more difficult, because you don't want to say anything to your child that they might internalize (and they will, believe me) which will damage their self esteem and their belief in themselves. They wouldn't have wanted to tell Gus that they didn't want him to go because they were worried he couldn't make friends as good as Shawn or that he wouldn't have had a real childhood because Gus might have blamed Shawn(he was just a kid after all), or felt like his parents thought him incapable of making friends. It might have made him angry, but it would also plant seeds of self doubt, too.

When my daughter finished the first grade, they gave all of the first graders IQ tests and a bunch of other tests to see what their potential was and help them figure out where to place them the next year. As it happened, she tested well enough in two areas that she qualified for a learning enrichment program that would take her out of the regular classroom one day a week to do advanced projects and activities, as well as a special class for kids who were gifted in art. They said that she could do both, but my husband and I had to decide if we wanted her to do both or either. She wanted to do both, she honestly believed that she could do it without a problem, because as difficult as it can be for parents to be objective and honest about what their kids can and can't do, it's much, much harder for a kid (or anyone for that matter) to be objective about themselves. We knew that if she did the academic program, she would still have to make up all the work she missed in her regular classes that one day every week that she was out, and the art class was every day during her free period so she wouldn't have to make up missed work. Plus, the art class was more of a fun activity and we wanted her to have time to do fun and creative things, so we opted to let her take the art class but not the other. She was upset with us, and she did figure out on her own part of why we didn't let her take the academic one and insisted for two years after that she could have handled it and kept up. Now she says she is glad we didn't let her do both, though. I'm still not sure if she fully understands the part about us wanting her to have time to do things like play soccer or have friends, but she is getting some of it. But we didn't want to say anything that might make her feel like she wasn't smart enough to do it, or to reinforce the belief she had at the time that she had to be the smartest, most advanced kid in her class at the exclusion of everything else like friendships and extracurricular activities.Gus seems like if they'd let him, he would have become so obsessed with his education that he would focus on that and only that to the point that one day he'd look up and realize that his whole childhood had flasshed past without him noticing.
PsyFanPinapplejuice
QUOTE (Liv @ Aug 25 2007, 10:10 AM) *
I suspect that a large part of it was that they didn't want to split up Shawn and Gus. Lifelong friends are hard enough to find for the average child, but for two boys like Shawn and gus I imagine it would be even more difficult because of their obviously high IQs. Finding a peer that you can relate to in a regular school when you have an extremely high IQ makes it difficult. There would have been a lot of other kids in that school with extremely high IQs, so finding peers who could understand and relate to him wouldn't have been a problem for Gus, but finding peers who were just as smart as he is, *but* could also have fun and encourage him to be a child while he still had the chance would have been extremely hard to find anywhere, public school or private. I think they had his best interests at heart.

As to why they didn't just say that rather than say that they couldn't afford it or that it was a long drive, I think was a matter of diplomacy. Parents walk a very high, narrow tightrope with their kids. You have to look at your child as objectively as you can when these kinds of decisions arise, and you have to be aware of their strengths and weaknesses and their capabilities, and be honest with yourself. That is difficult enough, but then when your child asks you why you decided something, or if you think they can do something, it gets even more difficult, because you don't want to say anything to your child that they might internalize (and they will, believe me) which will damage their self esteem and their belief in themselves. They wouldn't have wanted to tell Gus that they didn't want him to go because they were worried he couldn't make friends as good as Shawn or that he wouldn't have had a real childhood because Gus might have blamed Shawn(he was just a kid after all), or felt like his parents thought him incapable of making friends. It might have made him angry, but it would also plant seeds of self doubt, too.

When my daughter finished the first grade, they gave all of the first graders IQ tests and a bunch of other tests to see what their potential was and help them figure out where to place them the next year. As it happened, she tested well enough in two areas that she qualified for a learning enrichment program that would take her out of the regular classroom one day a week to do advanced projects and activities, as well as a special class for kids who were gifted in art. They said that she could do both, but my husband and I had to decide if we wanted her to do both or either. She wanted to do both, she honestly believed that she could do it without a problem, because as difficult as it can be for parents to be objective and honest about what their kids can and can't do, it's much, much harder for a kid (or anyone for that matter) to be objective about themselves. We knew that if she did the academic program, she would still have to make up all the work she missed in her regular classes that one day every week that she was out, and the art class was every day during her free period so she wouldn't have to make up missed work. Plus, the art class was more of a fun activity and we wanted her to have time to do fun and creative things, so we opted to let her take the art class but not the other. She was upset with us, and she did figure out on her own part of why we didn't let her take the academic one and insisted for two years after that she could have handled it and kept up. Now she says she is glad we didn't let her do both, though. I'm still not sure if she fully understands the part about us wanting her to have time to do things like play soccer or have friends, but she is getting some of it. But we didn't want to say anything that might make her feel like she wasn't smart enough to do it, or to reinforce the belief she had at the time that she had to be the smartest, most advanced kid in her class at the exclusion of everything else like friendships and extracurricular activities.Gus seems like if they'd let him, he would have become so obsessed with his education that he would focus on that and only that to the point that one day he'd look up and realize that his whole childhood had flasshed past without him noticing.


Wow! After reading that, I should thank Gus' parrents!haha.
Ned
Is there anyone that taped this episode, Ive been waiting for a whole week for this episode and was too tired from work that i fell asleep 10 minutes after it started.....plus I missed it at later showing

I checked USA Network and they won't show it during next week at all


Is there anyone that might help me with this one
PsyFanPinapplejuice
QUOTE (Ned @ Aug 25 2007, 06:15 PM) *
Is there anyone that taped this episode, Ive been waiting for a whole week for this episode and was too tired from work that i fell asleep 10 minutes after it started.....plus I missed it at later showing

I checked USA Network and they won't show it during next week at all
Is there anyone that might help me with this one


anything that I could do would be illegal. You can however watch the 2 min recap, find a internet site that might have it (***tube?), or wait till Sep 7th for the mini marathon.

Sorry I couldn't help!
Thing3
Why was the old guy who'd interviewed Gus for the smarty pants school disappointed to hear Gus was "in pharmaceuticals"? Gus didn't SAY he was a sales rep...for all that guy knew, Gus was creating the drugs that ease suffering and save lives, a difficult and well-respected profession...especially appreciated by older people.

If Gus had been caught trying to pass himself off as "in pharmaceuticals", but not just a sales rep, I can see the guy's reaction. And that would have been funny, too. smile.gif As it was, I didn't get it.
PsychedOut
QUOTE (Ned @ Aug 25 2007, 07:15 PM) *
Is there anyone that taped this episode, Ive been waiting for a whole week for this episode and was too tired from work that i fell asleep 10 minutes after it started.....plus I missed it at later showing

I checked USA Network and they won't show it during next week at all


Is there anyone that might help me with this one


If you download iTunes from the apple site, you can buy the episode for $1.99. It costs money, but it's a good quality video, if you wanted to go that route.
PsyFanPinapplejuice
QUOTE (PsychedOut @ Aug 25 2007, 07:48 PM) *
If you download iTunes from the apple site, you can buy the episode for $1.99. It costs money, but it's a good quality video, if you wanted to go that route.


Oyeah, forgot about that one...that at least gives a little profit to USA/NBC(ithink?)
NeurosisOsmosis
I'm going to add to the list of obscure references in this episode (my apologies if someone already pointed this out). The name used by the 30-something criminal posing as a high-schooler, Kurt Godel (hey, where's that oomlat key...?), is the name of a famous 20th century mathematician. I wondered why they threw that in there...just for laughs, I suppose. I tried to look for some hidden connection to the plot line but couldn't find any--maybe someone else can figure out why they used HIS name (other than it's an obscure reference that fits in the context of a school for high-IQ students and the general flavor of the episode). He certainly didn't die in a car accident, his wife passed away and (touchingly) he didn't trust anyone else's cooking--so he starved himself to death(!) (BTW, if you do an internet search for that name, as they supposedly did in the episode to find out about the car accident, you will be swamped with THE Kurt Godel and it would take some digging to find other people by that name...)

(Their attempts at pronouncing his name were funny. I have (among other things) a math background, and was a bit embarassed to realize I had been pronouncing the name incorrectly. I've always thought it "Go-Dell" but it's apparently more like "Girdle" where you kind of gloss over the 'r'.)
Ned
QUOTE (PsychedOut @ Aug 25 2007, 07:48 PM) *
If you download iTunes from the apple site, you can buy the episode for $1.99. It costs money, but it's a good quality video, if you wanted to go that route.



Thanks for that post, I finally found time to sit and do it, well worth 1.99 spent
PsychedOut
QUOTE (Ned @ Aug 30 2007, 11:36 PM) *
Thanks for that post, I finally found time to sit and do it, well worth 1.99 spent


You're welcome! That's how I got into Psych-I missed the first few episodes so I just dl them to my iPod.
Mejay
Hey everyone,
Sorry..this post is kind of late but my power was knocked out by a huge storm last week. Luckily it came back on Friday afternoon so I was able to watch Psych. But our internet was taken out and we couldn't get it back for a week.
I loved this episode! I thought the mystery was really great, I never would've guessed the ending. I really loved when Shawn got "shushed" by the kid in the library and when Gus slid off the table in the teacher's lounge. Poor Gus...he was so sad when he found his file. And Juliet was awesome in the episode!!
In the scene where Shawn, Gus, Jules, and Lassie were checking out the crime scene after the math teacher was murdered..a piece of the cieling fell down. Does anyone think that wasn't supposed to happen? Their expressions were priceless smile.gif
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