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eric
Unbelievable!!! They are bringing Lilly back!!!!! Is this a return to an original theme. Or is this proving the theory that Isabelle sucked the life out of Lilly???
Phanta
QUOTE (eric @ Aug 12 2007, 09:04 PM) *
Unbelievable!!! They are bringing Lilly back!!!!! Is this a return to an original theme. Or is this proving the theory that Isabelle sucked the life out of Lilly???

Since her body was cremated I doubt she is really back
greatshow
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QUOTE (eric @ Aug 12 2007, 10:04 PM) *
Unbelievable!!! They are bringing Lilly back!!!!! Is this a return to an original theme. Or is this proving the theory that Isabelle sucked the life out of Lilly???


Isabelle could create illusions.
EasyMac
QUOTE (greatshow @ Aug 12 2007, 10:08 PM) *
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Isabelle could create illusions.

Or someone else can be creating the illusion...
anissa
I loved Lily! Who knows, maybe some 4400 (orig rec or new) may be able to reconstitue & resurrect. Possibly they wouldn't need all of her remains to do it. That'd be flippin' wild!

Can't wait for next week! wink.gif
Paradox
I'm pretty confident Lily isn't back. The most logical conclusion is that someone is messing with Richard. The other question is how does Isabelle return to normal.
Bubba_Bridges
Hi Bubba here, I think Laura Allen is only back for this one episode.
Phanta
I think I posted my theory on tonites thread. Isabelle can make illusions. I think she is doing this for Richard so he can have his happy family.

which also means she's getting her abilities back ( or was hiding them all along)
eric
QUOTE (Phanta @ Aug 12 2007, 09:20 PM) *
I think I posted my theory on tonites thread. Isabelle can make illusions. I think she is doing this for Richard so he can have his happy family.

which also means she's getting her abilities back ( or was hiding them all along)


I actually think that that is the most logical conclusion, that Isabelle is now recovering her abilities. Richard was used by PFTF (evil variety) to get to Isabelle. The water not only reversed her age, but restored her abilities. The PFTF are going to try again.

My theory.
manoftehour
it could be a 4400 ability creating the illusion of Lily
or maybe since it was isabelles aging that killed lily, it brings her back somehow?
but since the commercial shows isabelle full aged again, maybe that kills her again so shes only back for one episode?
ha thats what I say

plus, i think that that megan chick is messed up.
i think she might be one of the marked?
or something like that. cause somethings just not right with her
plus things never turn out good for the leaders of NTAC
Phanta
QUOTE (manoftehour @ Aug 12 2007, 10:07 PM) *
it could be a 4400 ability creating the illusion of Lily
or maybe since it was isabelles aging that killed lily, it brings her back somehow?
but since the commercial shows isabelle full aged again, maybe that kills her again so shes only back for one episode?
ha thats what I say

plus, i think that that megan chick is messed up.
i think she might be one of the marked?
or something like that. cause somethings just not right with her
plus things never turn out good for the leaders of NTAC

Ya i wouldnt want to be the next one to be promoted to that position.
greatshow
QUOTE (Phanta @ Aug 12 2007, 10:20 PM) *
I think I posted my theory on tonites thread. Isabelle can make illusions. I think she is doing this for Richard so he can have his happy family.

which also means she's getting her abilities back ( or was hiding them all along)

She may get her powers back from being made a toddler but they are not going to be permanent when she back to having an adult body.
Phanta
QUOTE (greatshow @ Aug 13 2007, 12:15 AM) *
She may get her powers back from being made a toddler but they are not going to be permanent when she back to having an adult body.

I'm all for her having her abilities back if she uses them for good.
Jenn366
I thought that Isabel was warned that she would die if she tried to get her abilities back? I personally like her as a little kid instead of an adult. I know that that special water would make her forget her life as an adult. Maybe that will be the dilemma if the writers turn her back into an adult again- if she becomes an adult- she'll die? I think they child actors who play her are so cute! I hope she stays little for at least a few more episodes. Maybe Kyle can take the water too and become young and grow up with her. That would be cool. Richard will be ridden with guilt for tricking his daughter into drinking the water in the first place without getting to know her again. Although I liked her when she was playing "evil"- It gave the show some zip!
4400MIA
I think they are bringing lily back so that isabel can regain her powers and since its looking like richard can use mind control maybe he is projecting an image in his mind to himself a well as isabel so that she will be able to regain all her powers "he did stay he wanted to start all over"

QUOTE (Jenn366 @ Aug 13 2007, 12:04 AM) *
I thought that Isabel was warned that she would die if she tried to get her abilities back? I personally like her as a little kid instead of an adult. I know that that special water would make her forget her life as an adult. Maybe that will be the dilemma if the writers turn her back into an adult again- if she becomes an adult- she'll die? I think they child actors who play her are so cute! I hope she stays little for at least a few more episodes. Maybe Kyle can take the water too and become young and grow up with her. That would be cool. Richard will be ridden with guilt for tricking his daughter into drinking the water in the first place without getting to know her again. Although I liked her when she was playing "evil"- It gave the show some zip!
EasyMac
QUOTE (Jenn366 @ Aug 13 2007, 03:04 AM) *
I thought that Isabel was warned that she would die if she tried to get her abilities back?


She was warned that she couldn't take a shot of promicin - that she was now deadly allergic to promicin.
Jordan4Future
QUOTE (4400MIA @ Aug 13 2007, 08:15 AM) *
I think they are bringing lily back so that isabel can regain her powers and since its looking like richard can use mind control maybe he is projecting an image in his mind to himself a well as isabel so that she will be able to regain all her powers "he did stay he wanted to start all over"

Ummm when was it ever shown that Richard has mind control an can project images?
Phanta
QUOTE (Jordan4Future @ Aug 13 2007, 08:14 AM) *
Ummm when was it ever shown that Richard has mind control an can project images?

He can't, but Isabelle could when she was a baby. She used mind control to project images into Lily.
EasyMac
QUOTE (Phanta @ Aug 13 2007, 11:08 AM) *
He can't, but Isabelle could when she was a baby. She used mind control to project images into Lily.

And she showed Jordan a false future. But the poster said that it perhaps it was Richard using mind control to project an image.

OR.... maybe it's... an Extra Krispie who can.. ah nevermind. LOL
coloradomama
It would make sense to the show if Isabelle got her abilities back, it would give her a more defined role in the promicin movement. What doesn't make sense is bringing Lily back, she has no role in the show, no purpose to her being there. I think the only point to bringing her back is to show both Richard and Isabelle that you can't really turn back time and hopefully that will force them to find a way to undo the reverse aging and bring Isabelle back to an adult, with abilities. They both should end up in Promise city, helping Jordan and Kyle with the movement, they are going to need someone with Richards ability and his tactical knowledge as the situation escalates. And if Isabelle gets her ability back, who knows what it will be? It could be something completely different than she had before, something that will be of more benefit and importance to the movement.
Jenn366
Ah..thanks EasyMac for clearing that up for me. Now I remember smile.gif. I just hope they leave Isabelle a child for awhile longer. I liked it when she was a baby and using her powers.
rockingmule
I think Richard's magic reset potion has reactivated Isabelle's abilities and she's creating an illusion of Lily because she wants her mother back. I also think Richard is going to realize it's an illusion, and that will cause him to understand what he did to Isabelle was wrong. Lily's gone for good and Isabelle's an adult now-he can't turn back the clock and get his happy family back.
EasyMac
QUOTE (coloradomama @ Aug 13 2007, 12:08 PM) *
It would make sense to the show if Isabelle got her abilities back, it would give her a more defined role in the promicin movement.

Agreed! Especially the aspect of which "side" she joins - Shawn's, Jordan's, or even NTAC. I can see her going in almost any direction, depending on what ability(s) she gets.

QUOTE (coloradomama @ Aug 13 2007, 12:08 PM) *
What doesn't make sense is bringing Lily back, she has no role in the show, no purpose to her being there. I think the only point to bringing her back is to show both Richard and Isabelle that you can't really turn back time and hopefully that will force them to find a way to undo the reverse aging and bring Isabelle back to an adult, with abilities.

Agreed. I think it's a way to offer some closure to the Lily storyline - the outstanding questions as well as placate the fans abit, since Lily's loss was something people still mourn.

QUOTE (coloradomama @ Aug 13 2007, 12:08 PM) *
And if Isabelle gets her ability back, who knows what it will be? It could be something completely different than she had before, something that will be of more benefit and importance to the movement.

I would really like that if she does get abilities, that it's something different than what she had before. Something meaningful. OTOH, having her be as powerful as before may help balance some of the playing field.
imahawki
I liked Lilly and it would be interesting if she came back. I always wonder when they eliminate characters what happens to the actor. Like, I saw in another thread that Illana was taken off the show BECAUSE the actress wanted out or there was a dispute or something. Makes you wonder if actor would have liked to continue how they feel being cut essentially.
LeadingLady
QUOTE (Phanta @ Aug 12 2007, 09:20 PM) *
I think I posted my theory on tonites thread. Isabelle can make illusions. I think she is doing this for Richard so he can have his happy family.

which also means she's getting her abilities back ( or was hiding them all along)



Her powers might be coming back because she was born with promicin, it wasn't given to her through injection like the other 4400 or the extra crispies, hers is innate and a part of her primordially so her body should begin to make more promicin and as she creates a build up of it her powers will begin to manifest. Usually somehting you are born with has to be controlled through chronic medication taken daily or regularly, not just one injection and poof it's all gone. smile.gif Her body MAKES promicin, it doesn't just hold promicin like the 4400 and extra crispies. smile.gif

LeadingLady
QUOTE (Jenn366 @ Aug 13 2007, 02:04 AM) *
I thought that Isabel was warned that she would die if she tried to get her abilities back? I personally like her as a little kid instead of an adult. I know that that special water would make her forget her life as an adult. Maybe that will be the dilemma if the writers turn her back into an adult again- if she becomes an adult- she'll die? I think they child actors who play her are so cute! I hope she stays little for at least a few more episodes. Maybe Kyle can take the water too and become young and grow up with her. That would be cool. Richard will be ridden with guilt for tricking his daughter into drinking the water in the first place without getting to know her again. Although I liked her when she was playing "evil"- It gave the show some zip!


I agree, I like Isabelle better as a kid, and hopefully this will give them a chance to make the trees bowing to Isabelle become true. Maybe the evil faction caused her to grow up too quick making her lacking the emotional things she needed to be a good stewart over her powers so making her a kid again gives her another chance to be the good one we first thought she was in the first season. smile.gif

About her powers, they could have been bluffing about her supposed allergy to promicin to stop her from taking more promicin. wink.gif I believe that promicin is a part of her primordially, her body makes it, it can't just be permanently zapped from her anymore than a person can just zap themselves into a permanent natural blonde! LOL! They can dye their hair but sooner or later thier natural hair color comes back, Isabelle's powers can be temporarily wiped out but her body will make it again eventually because it's a part of her from conception, it wasn't given to her like with the other 4400s or extra crispies. smile.gif

LeadingLady
QUOTE (rockingmule @ Aug 13 2007, 11:17 AM) *
I think Richard's magic reset potion has reactivated Isabelle's abilities and she's creating an illusion of Lily because she wants her mother back. I also think Richard is going to realize it's an illusion, and that will cause him to understand what he did to Isabelle was wrong. Lily's gone for good and Isabelle's an adult now-he can't turn back the clock and get his happy family back.

I don't think what Richard did was a mistake, the mistake was robbing Isabelle and Richard of her childhood. wink.gif Richard is righting a mistake. smile.gif

evenstar22
hi leading lady , i totally agree with ur point of view so far and like the direction your thoughts are heading towards,i'm just gonna enjoy next epi coz so glad to see lilly back,and i cant fault richard for doing what he did ,i think he was right ,isabelle needs her father and time to grow up as a normal girl since she's neither a normal human being nor a 4400 so she's kinda like a super P+ AN evolved 4400 the next generation....go izzy
rockingmule
QUOTE (LeadingLady @ Aug 13 2007, 06:35 PM) *
I don't think what Richard did was a mistake, the mistake was robbing Isabelle and Richard of her childhood. wink.gif Richard is righting a mistake. smile.gif


I don't think so. I think by next week we're going to see fallout from this and Isabelle returned to her normal self.
zippylittlerat
I got slightly bit in the butt for saying something similar last time, since I didn't altogether agree with Richard, but...

Welcome back, Lily! cool.gif I've missed you.
rockingmule
QUOTE (zippylittlerat @ Aug 13 2007, 11:41 PM) *
I got slightly bit in the butt for saying something similar last time, since I didn't altogether agree with Richard, but...

Welcome back, Lily! cool.gif I've missed you.

Don't get too excited, Zippy. Lily isn't really back.
evenstar22
i'd like to see her back all the same nothing is written in stone
she can always accept a new contract of even 5episodes next season,
i mean she's dead yes but nothing says they cant pftf pick her back up from another decade and bring her back into the show this is scifi u know not reality
Pau
QUOTE (eric @ Aug 12 2007, 11:04 PM) *
Unbelievable!!! They are bringing Lilly back!!!!! Is this a return to an original theme. Or is this proving the theory that Isabelle sucked the life out of Lilly???



We will found out next sunday!
Maybe, as Isabelle became younger, she can "gave back" Lily the years she took out from her.
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