Alright, lets jump ahead. Collier says his mission is to leave the 4400 and the world to salvation. Hes determined to do whatever it takes to get there, even with a significant sacrifice. Now skip ahead to where this all happens..

The 4400 lead the world to salvation, whatever that is, a better world, etc etc. Jordan is a power freak. Do you think he'll relinquish his "power". What I mean by power is his command over his subjects. Right now, his followers do whatever he asks, with good intentions of helping the human race. Once thats done, will he no longer be sitting in the throne, will the government step in and take out a dictator? Thats what this is really, hes going to become a dictator if he succeeds. What happens after whatever is supposed to happen, happens? Jordan wont step aside, the government, or the worlds governments wont step aside. They'll be in the same place they are now, struggling for power, stepping over eachother to get a foothole to the throne.

Discuss.

This is an interesting question, josh. In the way Jordan has been portrayed after his return, I'm not sure he's even thought that far ahead. His mind seems firmly set on the present, even if Kyle's may be set on the future.

I could see Jordan possibly being a dictator. Even a benevolent dictator is still a dictator. Given the commune style of Promise City, He might try to set up a true democracy. That would not work either. Emperor Jordan it is.

This is a good question! I certainly haven't thought that far ahead. I can't see Jordan stepping down. His vanity no longer rules him, but it's still there. I can't see the guy having the entire world (the entire world!!!) at his feet and then just handing off the throne to is successor. Emperor Jordan indeed! Thankfully, I can't see him being merciless. It'll still be the Elite, but it'll be a little nicer.

I completely disagree. Jordan is not a dictator-a dictator would not listen to Maia about not retaliating, a dictator would not have listened to Shawn about cooperating with Tom, and a dictator would not have passed up a chance to give Tom a shot of promicin. Jordan's dream is a peaceful world where everyone is free-he would be happy with some recognition that he helped to bring that about, but ruling that world? Not in a million years does Jordan want to rule the world-all his actions so far have showed that he is not a power freak longing to be a dictator.

I don't think he's a dictator, what I'm saying (and what I think the others are saying, but by all means, I'm not trying to put words in anyone's mouths), is that if Joran should succeed, and everyone is united by promicin, I could see Jordan still being some sort of overseer. Or at least, he'd wanna be the go-to guy. "What now, Jordan?"

Based on what I read in the 4400 S1/2 Companion Guide - Jordan is all about POWER. Even if it's for benign purposes (in his mind, of course, lol). So I doubt the writers would have him relinquishing his power, his ole/position.

I think people are confusing Jordan's wish for recognition with a desire for power.

I think folks are bent on not moving past season one and two with his characters developement. Because yeah, in those two seasons we see a guy who is all about himself. But that is ok, time will tell who and what he will turn out to be.

I think you're absolutely right, JordanFan, about people not moving past the person Jordan was presented to be in the beginning. Like you say, time will show what a great guy he is!

Huh. Maybe that's my beef with Jordan. He was a little slimy in season 1, and trust me, I'm not saying I wanted to see him die in season 2, but honestly, I might have been more disappointed if he survived (more on the grounds I didn't want the 4400 to cop out and back away from killing a key character). So maybe I need to look at him as more of a new guy, cuz he certainy has changed!

If Jordan did bring about salvation, what point would there be in giving up his power? Either everyone would have a power, thus buffering anything Jordan could do, or it would be the end of the world ("the face of the Father appearing".)

I would say, if Jordan did bring about salvation, what point would there be in KEEPING his power? If he creates his perfect world, where everybody has abilities and freedom, they wouldn't need him in charge any more. I don't really think he's all that interested in ruling the world-he just wants recognition for what he accomplishes. Nothing wrong with that-we all want that.

I don't think him keeping his power would mean he wanted to rule the world, but if the world does keep going round, someone would need to be in charge, why not the man who brought it about in the first place, I mean if he is successful at his mission, then who better to continue to lead? Why would it have to be a negitave thing,(Not saying you said in any way it would be negative rock, just getting a jump on the naysayers who think Jordan can only do negative things.)

It's not that...I'm not sure I can formulate what I mean, JordanFan. I think maybe in Jordan's perfect world, there wouldn't need to be a leader. Maybe a council? And Jordan would be on it...what do you think?

Me personally, I would vote for Jordan to be head of the council, but hey, what do I know I am baised in his case!!!!

But seriously, a council would be a good idea, maybe no one person should be in charge.

I doubt Jordan would give up his leadership position....

1. because of who he inherently is - a man who loves power and being a leader,
2. regardless of how utopian the community is, there still is a need for leadership,
3. people will want him to be their leader

but most importantly: having abilities does not change who people inherently are- Diana and April discussed this in "The Truth and Nothing but the Truth". So I think the human race, with or without promicin and abiliities needs leadership, needs rules/guidelines by which to live, need structure.

Well, if Jordan does suceed in bringing about a fundamental change in the world-if he actually does create a utopia, wouldn't that make him a good person to lead a council that rules that world? He has a great awareness of his own mortality (dying twice will do that to you) so he knows he's not going to be around forever. If he were to refuse to set up some kind of goverance that could continue to be effective after his death, all his work would be undone. So yes, there will always be a need for rules and structure, but no, Jordan is not the kind of person to set up something that will collapse after his death and cause chaos again.

Well, if the "book" is right and Jordan brings about "Heaven on Earth" and "God" shows his face, wouldn't God be in charge?

Ah, I come bakc from the weekend and this thread is full of ideas. All good points. Im in the camp that thinks Jordan is a power freak and wouldnt step aside easily. The last poswer made a good point. If what kyle says is true, then yes "the man upstairs" would be calling the shots.

Again, this depends on your point of view, some people think the book should be taken literally, others, myself being one, do not.

Again, this depends on your point of view, some people think the book should be taken literally, others, myself being one, do not. I don't believe Jordan is a Messiah any more than I believe God will show his face, not literally anyway. But, say even if he did, would free will not still be in place? If it is, then God would still leave the deciding of things down here up to us.

I don't think the book should be taken literally. If it is, then Jordan truly is a messiah because he will bring God to earth. And I don't think Jordan is a messiah.