PromicinDealer
Aug 9 2007, 12:54 AM
I think my username gives a good idea.

I would have access to a boat-load of promicin, and me and some 4400/P+ partners would use our abilities to prevent NTAC from detecting us and our underground network we use to distribute promicin. I believe it is a person's right of choice if they want promicin, a right the government have no say in.
rockingmule
Aug 9 2007, 09:14 AM
I would go to Jordan and find out if he's still willing to work with P-Negatives, because there's no way I'm going to take the shot while my husband and son are alive and well.
Original4400
Aug 9 2007, 10:45 AM
I think I'd be working with Shawn, encouraging him to seek a more consistent dialogue with Jordan. Peace cannot be achieved while they are still angry with each other.
rockingmule
Aug 9 2007, 11:02 AM
Original, how 'bout you take Shawn to Starbucks, and I'll take Jordan, and when they get there we lock the doors on them and don't let them out until they are friends again? No fantasy game this time-they REALLY have to stay in the same room until they make up.
Original4400
Aug 9 2007, 11:38 AM
Excellent idea. I'd actually like to see an episode that features the two of them. Though it has not been ignored, their relationship has been given little time, and even less quality time.
rockingmule
Aug 9 2007, 11:46 AM
And that's really strange when you consider that Jordan is like a father to Shawn. They both seem to regret growing apart-why are they being so stubborn?
Original4400
Aug 9 2007, 11:55 AM
I guess rebellion is always part of a parent-child relationship, but here, there is more of a fundamental difference of opinion and morality. that can be a harder divide to heal than one might think.
rockingmule
Aug 9 2007, 12:14 PM
That's true, Original, but considering how high the stakes are, it seems petty of Jordan and Shawn to let their personal differences get in the way. It would really be ironic if Tom is the one who builds bridges to Jordan's movement, but he does seem to be developing a grudging respect for the man.
Original4400
Aug 9 2007, 12:22 PM
Agreed. I like the idea of Tom being that bridge.
What did you make of Jordan's comment about who should hang up first?
Sinjun
Aug 9 2007, 02:05 PM
Given the possible outcome i could see myself takin the shot and trying to convince Jordan to work with the p-negatives as much as possible, failing that helping Shawn as best as i could to continue to heal as many people as possible.
greatshow
Aug 9 2007, 02:25 PM
QUOTE (PromicinDealer @ Aug 9 2007, 01:54 AM)

I think my username gives a good idea.

I would have access to a boat-load of promicin, and me and some 4400/P+ partners would use our abilities to prevent NTAC from detecting us and our underground network we use to distribute promicin. I believe it is a person's right of choice if they want promicin, a right the government have no say in.

I would be dead or working with Jordan. I would take the shot.
greatshow
Aug 9 2007, 02:26 PM
QUOTE (rockingmule @ Aug 9 2007, 01:14 PM)

That's true, Original, but considering how high the stakes are, it seems petty of Jordan and Shawn to let their personal differences get in the way. It would really be ironic if Tom is the one who builds bridges to Jordan's movement, but he does seem to be developing a grudging respect for the man.
It is not going to play out that way in the short term.
Phanta
Aug 9 2007, 06:42 PM
QUOTE (Original4400 @ Aug 9 2007, 12:22 PM)

Agreed. I like the idea of Tom being that bridge.
What did you make of Jordan's comment about who should hang up first?
I think he was hoping Tom had more to say. And it was more of him kind of saying, I'm not ready to let this go, what can we do to make it work. Thats my opinion.
rockingmule
Aug 9 2007, 08:03 PM
QUOTE (Original4400 @ Aug 9 2007, 12:22 PM)

What did you make of Jordan's comment about who should hang up first?
It seemed like a friendly gesture-something that if they were friends would be completely trivial, but because they have not been friends, like it could be a tiny plank of that bridge we hope they'll build. It was like Jordan was saying, "Tom, we just died together to save our loved ones, we've learned some new respect for each other, we can start to act a little like friends. I thought the same thing could be said of Tom finally calling Jordan by his first name.
Sinjun
Aug 9 2007, 08:24 PM
QUOTE (rockingmule @ Aug 9 2007, 09:03 PM)

It seemed like a friendly gesture-something that if they were friends would be completely trivial, but because they have not been friends, like it could be a tiny plank of that bridge we hope they'll build. It was like Jordan was saying, "Tom, we just died together to save our loved ones, we've learned some new respect for each other, we can start to act a little like friends. I thought the same thing could be said of Tom finally calling Jordan by his first name.
Maybe not friends, but collegues i think would fit more. They both want to save the world after all.
Promicinjunkie
Aug 9 2007, 11:30 PM
I'd have the ability to turn illegal drugs into fresh promicin, and join the rebellion against the government. Of course, if Tom and NTAC came a-calling, I might just have to stick Tom with a syringe. After all, it was predestined...
If not that, then helping everyone with my random promicin induced ability. But not with Jordan....he's just too 'sip the Kool Aid'.
Jordan4Future
Aug 10 2007, 12:03 AM
I'd risk it an take the shot and if my ability proved usefull, i'd use it to liberate fellow P+ from federal detention centers an take them to either Promise City or up into Canada.
Sinjun
Aug 10 2007, 12:28 AM
giving someon the shoot against their will is definatly something that would not be for the best. but i have a suspicion it might not matter if you take the shot or not. my spidy sense is tingling.
Bubba_Bridges
Aug 10 2007, 02:43 AM
Hi Bubba here,
if I took the shot, I would be a counselor. I like making people feel good or better.
zippylittlerat
Aug 10 2007, 03:29 PM
If promicin were real out here, I would be the gal trying to talk people out of it, especially if they had other options. Something tells me my success rate would be worse than 50-50, but I'd try anyway!
Original4400
Aug 10 2007, 03:39 PM
I know the idea of a an airborne Promicin has been floated on this board. Yikes. The implications are horrifying. Imagine the death toll. That is genocide. Considering that no one of the 'old man' would survive.
I don't think Jordan would support such a thing. But, the Nova group, even in some Jordan related insanity, might.
rockingmule
Aug 10 2007, 05:28 PM
QUOTE (Original4400 @ Aug 10 2007, 03:39 PM)

I know the idea of a an airborne Promicin has been floated on this board. Yikes. The implications are horrifying. Imagine the death toll. That is genocide. Considering that no one of the 'old man' would survive.
I don't think Jordan would support such a thing. But, the Nova group, even in some Jordan related insanity, might.
I can't imagine why NOVA would support such a thing. They've never hurt anybody except the government officials who used the promicin inhibitor against the 4400.
JordanFan
Aug 10 2007, 11:51 PM
What would i be doing in the 4400 world. Well, first I would find me a shot, then, I would find a way to get in to see Mr Collier before I attempted to take said shot, then, with a 50/50 chance of surviving, I would lay one on that man(Smooch) before I injected myself, Then, if life were kind, I would die from the shot, if not, I would live and have to be totally completely embarrased by being brazien enough to have done that smooch thing in the first place. Hopefully he wouldn't kick my hinie out in the cold to quick.
With all that said, and all the embarrasement behind me, I would do the best I could to help bring about a better world for all, P+ and P- alike.
Sinjun
Aug 11 2007, 02:27 AM
considering i don't like needles another option might be nicer

I don't think Jordan would go for mass spraying of promicine since he appears in every case to prefer people be givent he choice to take it or not take it.
zippylittlerat
Aug 11 2007, 08:40 PM
True, for the most part, he's advocating choice. In fact, in just about every instance, he's saying someone or other has a choice to do something! So I give him points for that. I'm glad he wouldn't stoop to air spraying. What a relief! I wonder if he'd have that lady who can purify water slip in a little promicin...
Phanta
Aug 11 2007, 09:53 PM
maybe they could come up with a delivery like the asthma inhalers.
JordanFan
Aug 12 2007, 12:00 AM
QUOTE (Phanta @ Aug 11 2007, 09:53 PM)

maybe they could come up with a delivery like the asthma inhalers.
I could go for asthma inhalers, I don't particularly like needles either, but hey, if I had to bite the bullet and take the needle, I would. I would just prefer something less painful. Yeah, I know, I am a big baby, but hey, needles hurt.
Sinjun
Aug 12 2007, 12:27 AM
QUOTE (zippylittlerat @ Aug 11 2007, 09:40 PM)

True, for the most part, he's advocating choice. In fact, in just about every instance, he's saying someone or other has a choice to do something! So I give him points for that. I'm glad he wouldn't stoop to air spraying. What a relief! I wonder if he'd have that lady who can purify water slip in a little promicin...

That might be a side effect of her purifying technique. think about it she is using an ability given to her or boosted by promicin. Just what was the chemical componants of that water after she used her ability on it. I'm suprised Diana didn't try to get a sample of it while she was there, or that NTAC hasn't tested the water a little ways downstream.
If promicin is in the water i don't think in this case it was intended, but accident or no they should look into it.
Pau
Aug 12 2007, 01:38 PM
QUOTE (Original4400 @ Aug 9 2007, 12:45 PM)

I think I'd be working with Shawn, encouraging him to seek a more consistent dialogue with Jordan. Peace cannot be achieved while they are still angry with each other.
QUOTE (rockingmule @ Aug 9 2007, 10:03 PM)

It seemed like a friendly gesture-something that if they were friends would be completely trivial, but because they have not been friends, like it could be a tiny plank of that bridge we hope they'll build. It was like Jordan was saying, "Tom, we just died together to save our loved ones, we've learned some new respect for each other, we can start to act a little like friends. I thought the same thing could be said of Tom finally calling Jordan by his first name.
Two good points!
I have already said it, but I would go with Jordan, find out how he is gonna act and then decide if I help him or not.
I also would like to help Shawn and Tom.
Or maybe helping them all against the goverment!
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