Voluntarily helps or involuntary, that'll be the thing to watch for. Either way, he's still screwed.

Maybe Monk can explain it to me too.
I've never figured out what birds and bees had to do with... er... anything.

This episode looks hilarious! I can't wait to watch it!!

!chik!

Previews look great! Can't wait to see it!

I'm guessing this is going to be a good episode.

It will be a great episode, I'm sure about that

Watched the clip. Looks great! Hope it is as funny as the Bad girlfriend one..I laughed so loud while Monk was on the bike!!!

...your word choice frightens me.

Love Randy's sneakers...don't really go with the suit, though.

I can't figure out why on Earth Natalie would even consider the possibility of asking Monk to help out Julie with this particular subject Promises to be some good comedy accompanied by a good murder for sure...can't wait!

Ha ha, i get what you mean about the word thing!!

I think those are the little booties or slipper things that they would wear over their shoes to keep from contaminating the crime scene.

So, Randy has nice booties?

The preview is up on Yahoo!

The Lovely Rita used the same line as Chris Downey in The Cobra, almost exactly. :-)

Mmmmmm...Booties.

Well, I can't watch the episode. Have to DVR it because I will be going to a wine tasting. Will get liquored up and watch the episode when I get home...may make for an interesting evening!

Will there be spitting? Spitting after the tasting?

You look like a moose. I'm going to call you "Lukes Likeamoose."

What's this song? (whistle whistle whistle, clanging with forks)

There is an other preview clip.

Sweet! Thanks metacomet

Wow! I see from watching the preview clip that the director of this episode, whose last name Tony Shalhoub couldn't remember when we were having lunch next to Randy Zisk and this guy, was none other than Michael Watkins. I wish I'd known at the time because I'm a big fan of his work. He was the cinematographer for Quantum Leap. If you remember that show you remember how great his work was. He was nominated for an Emmy award five times for his work on that series and he won it twice. He also directed a couple episodes , most notably "A Little Miracle" the QL Christmas episode. Since then he's directed tons of stuff including Law and Order, NYPD Blue, CSI, Vegas and The 4400. This is going to be great. I can't wait.

another preview clip

click and download clip it's with Gail O'Grady as Lovely Rita. It's the same clip which is on Yahoo!

Let me tell ya 'bout the birds and the bees
And the flowers and the trees
And the moon up above
And a thing called "Love"
Let me tell ya 'bout the stars in the sky
And a girl and a guy
And the way they could kiss
On a night like this
When I look into your big brown eyes
It's so very plain to see
That it's time you learned about the facts of life
Starting from A to Z
Let me tell ya 'bout the birds and the bees
And the flowers and the trees
And the moon up above
And a thing called "Love" (Yeah!)
When I look into your big brown eyes
It's so very plain to see
That it's time you learned about the facts of life
Starting from A to Z
Let me tell ya 'bout the birds and the bees
And the flowers and the trees
And the moon up above
And a thing called "Love"
Let me tell ya 'bout the birds and the bees
And the flowers and the trees
And the birds and the bees
And the flowers and the trees
'Bout the birds
(fade)
And the bees

Hey, y'all! New here to the board but old Monk fan. This episode looks like a hoot! I agree--Monk has to be in the top ten people you wouldn't choose to have teach sex ed to your childern, right? Along with the Pope and maybe members of odd cults. Anyway, looking forward to this one!

This episode looks like it's going to be hysterical. I laugh each time the clips come on!

I know, I love Julie asking, "Why you?" and Adrian's "That's what I said!"

I asked my daughter if she would rather have that particular talk with me or Monk (if we hadn't had it already) and she said that she thought she might prefer Monk, just because she thought it would be highly amusing to traumatise him with questions about specifics.

My daughter has always been a kind of cruel child.

This is also Traylor Howard's reunion episode with Vincent Ventresca from "Boston Common," which she alludes to in her video interview about former co-stars. (Thanks for answering my question, Traylor. Loved your answer!)

I think it was great! This scene with urns and with the talk when Monk talked about Trudy and the end when she gave him a little kiss What for? For 'the talk'...It was really, really cute episode! It was worth to wait!

It was okay. The plot was weak. That kind of plotline has been done at least once before (in one episode the killer had to get rid of a caricature drawn on the wall placing him with one of the victims - a pretty similar dilemma to the one in which this killer found himself). The acting was brilliant. The scene with Monk and Julie was excellent and very touching. The scenes with Disher drawing on the television with a permanent marker and the strange woman helping them with the case in the station were hilarious. Reviewing Monk has been the same story for the past two years.

You can write individual "sketches" that are touching and funny forever, but they don't make an entire show. This year we have had one show with great writing, two mediocre, and two horrible. The shark the show jumped is getting tinier and fading in the distance. I hope they don't circle around for another leap.

Added Later: The "killer runs from Monk and throws the evidence into the ocean" idea has also been done at least once before, come to think of it. Please stop. It's okay. It's time.

Added (compulsively) later still: The "Andy Richter" character had to get rid of a photo mailed to Monk placing him with his first murder victim, right? This was even closer to tonight's plot than I originally thought, and recycled after just one half of a season. I corrected the "caricature" episode reference; I think that may have been a different episode. But the point is the same. This "photo incrimination" idea has been recycled at least twice.

Hello,
I loved tonight's episode of MONK. I'm going to watch it again tonight and may try to watch it sometime this week.
The part where MONK does his MONK Shui with the urns, etc. made me nervous. (It's only TV! I kept telling myself.)

"Mmm, guilty."
Need I say more?

You know, one of the reasons that I haven't been posting on this board for awhile is because I got somewhat tired of other people speaking for me. I DON'T think this show has "jumped the shark" or lost its edge, or in fact faltered in any way, and I am NOT ready for it to end. I've found the writing and directing this season to be on par with previous seasons, and the story lines to be entertaining and interesting. TV sets come with a magical button that lets you decide that you've grown tired of a show, or no longer enjoy it, and it's rather pretentious to assume that the network should cancel a well-written and well-acted series just because you've grown tired of it. I haven't, and based on the ratings, neither have a lot of other people. Leave it on for me to watch and change the channel to something YOU enjoy.

Now that I'm off my soapbox, I'll give my two cents on this episode. I particularly enjoyed this one, mostly because of the relationship between Julie and Monk. Although Monk is such a child-like man, he's also proven a good father figure for both Benjy and Julie in the past. His birds & bees discussion with Julie this episode was both funny and poignant. But I was particularly touched by his reaction to her boyfriend's heroism at the end of the episode. He sounded like a proud parent when he declared "That's Julie's boyfriend! He's on the swimteam." (or whatever the line was - I don't memorize them well) That struck me as a pretty parental reaction - to be so happy that someone who was so close to Julie saved the day. For a man who is frequently selfish and often self-absorbed, he's also quite protective and sensitive to the children of his assistants, which is an interesting character trait (especially for a comic character).

I also like it when Monk is up against an arrogant opponent who figures he'll get away with anything just by sheer ego alone. The scene in the cemetary between Monk and the killer when Monk shows him the "proof" that he knew the victim and is forced to admit that it really doesn't proove anything was terrifically acted. That was especially true coming immediately after the very comic rearranging of the urns (I LOVE black humor like that!).

This was a particularly funny episode too. As I mentioned, the urn rearranging was extremely funny black humor and had me nearly in stitches. Monk's little "talk" with Julie started out on the funny side, making it only more interesting when it turned serious. Randy as usual provided his own brand of comedy with the permanent markers, and the assistance of the "lovely Rita" in the police station was a hoot.

I think they've done a pretty good job this seasonette of mixing up the episodes too. There have been outright comedies, more serious episodes, good mysteries, touching moments, and terrific character studies. Television shows tend to fall into "formulas" after awhile, and Monk has avoided doing that. It doesn't always follow one particular kind of story line, or use one particular kind of mystery. It isn't always a comedy but it isn't always serious, and it can be both in one episode, or lean more heavily one way or the other. I still think Tony and his supporting cast are brilliant at bringing out the best of their characters, and at exploring new depths of their characters every episode.

I seriously hope they DO continue for another season (at least). I think they've got lots more to explore with the character and dozens of stories they could tell. And I still think this show is one of the best things on television.

Ummmmm...............I am the only one so far who said the show "jumped the shark," but I don't even know you. So I'm not sure what the quote below is referencing. Did you give out your password to strangers and let a bunch of people post for you in the past? Just create a new identity and don't give out your information. I post for myself, and I don't think I ever tried to post for anyone else. When someone posts something you don't like, they are not speaking for you. Wow. Did I really just have to explain that?

Julie and her young man made such a cute couple. Mr. Monk having the talk about the birds and the bees with Julie was exceptional. Another GOOD episode.

Best Randy line ever!

People anaylize too much. Hard to enjoy the show if you're breaking down every scene and comparing it to past episodes and trying to calculate how often a plot device has been used and how far apart those episodes were.

I take my Monk episodes one at a time, descrete intervals of entertainment. Beside's, every plot has been used a million times a million ways by a million shows, books, movies, and plays. There's nothing new.

I loved tonight's show. I've always liked Julie better than Benjie, she respects Monk a lot more than he did and actually does seem to value his opinion.

Anyhoo... great show tonight, I don't see any sharks in the past or future... just taking the show one episode at a time.

I liked the episode, but two comments related to the post above:
(1) I thought the urns scene was pretty bad -- unbelievable, stupid and kind of gross/disrespectful. It is a good example of the over-the-top OCD dumb stuff Adrian has been doing lately. I'm sorry, but it just seemed stupid and thoughtless/mean. A more clever and funny scene was in the pilot where Monk used string and a paper clip to try to snare something that dropped into the coffin, and he ended up --in the middle of the service-- to raise the dead man's hand, in front of everyone, as though the deceased was alive!)
(2) I liked the "talk" scenes with Julie. For one thing, though Julie is pretty old, it might be easier for a youngster to talk more freely to a non-family member, someone removed, so an embarrassing or stupid comment could be more easily lived with. And I thought it would be more effective if Julie just kissed Adrian at the end with no words spoken by either, since it was so obvious. Sort of like the Leper ep.

Ok, so no one in my family seems to agree with me, so I have joined this community to ask you guys: Is it me or did Tim look a lot like Benjie? For some reason, from the beginning of the show, he reminded me of someone with his movements and face, but I didn't know whom. Then out of no where, I began to think that it was Benjie, but now back as Tim. I might just be pulling rabbits out of hats with this one, but I can't keep thinking it was him. I tried to look up his name and look in the credits, but no luck. I might just as well be wrong, so if anyone knows, please say so. I'd rather live life knowing I made a mistake than live with a lie...lol.

I enjoyed the show last night. And thanks, Clippo, I agree with your view of the show. For me it's entertainment and I get a huge charge out of the stunts, scams and errors Monk & Natalie share. The mausoleum scene with the ashes was fun. It's a good think there wasn't a Dirt Devil nearby. Clever bit.

I really appreciated the "reproductive" talk between Monk & Julie. Getting that info from my own mom wasn't easy but she was the only one I could talk to somewhat comfortably about it. Julie wasn't listening to her mom so Monk was "the good role model." ("Huh?") Even though he was trying to get the hell out of there he had some good points and it was more about relationships than sex (a talk he would have botched for sure.) There was a nice bit of conflict in this subplot.

The set up at the beginning was nicely done. But like most greedy criminals he missed a lot of stuff and tried to cover it up. Clever but not clever enough. ("I think he's the man." "No. He's the guy.")

Randy was great in this. ("You're worse than Monk.") He did find a vital piece of evidence even if it was blurry and he ruined the TV. The coffee mug bit at the end was fun.

I hope Lovely Rita shows up again. She's a pretty smart meter maid. Or whatever she is. (Fishnets!)

Great tag scene! Bet he can still feel Julie's lips on his face. You can't change this man. He will do the sweetest things and his basic nature will still be the same. Fear is his constant companion.

Next week should be fun. Frankly I enjoyed the coffin sequence in "Vs. the Cobra." So much of the shooting in that was interesting and representational. This should be out and out giggles.

AC

I just watched the show and loved it alot. I was rather concerned that they showed who the bad guy was and didn't really have a mystery to the episode. It was the subplot that gave the twist but I really enjoyed that Nat gave the Here's what happend part. The urn thing did bug me. Mixing up someone love ones kinda turned me off. I liked talk with Julie. It was very cute. Even though Monk was trying to get out of it, he made his point that she should do things only when she feels sure of it, no pressure from others. Next weeks show looks even better!

I liked the talk between Adrian and Julie, too. It was so funny the way he was practically begging at the end, "Stop crying. Let me out of here." I half expected him to continue with "...Before I start crying." I think that Natalie was right in choosing Adrian to talk to her about it. There are some things that moms aren't the best suited person to talk to their daughters about, because the daughters think, "She's my mom, of course she's gonna say that, she loves me/she's never going to see me as growing up/she'll always think I'm pretty,smart, great,ect..." Or in this case, "She's my mom, and a woman, she could be wrong about how boys think." Ideally, a girl has a father or father figure growing up so that they have less reason to question whether a guy can or will ever respect and value them for some reason aside from sex. The whole "If you really loved me, you'd do it," argument and the threat of breaking up with her if she doesn't get a whole lot weaker in a girl's mind when she's grown up with the unconditional love of a man who she sees as the template for the perfect man. Even if they don't know it, girls look for someone like their dad, and if they can't imagine their father ever saying something like that to a girl, then they become less enchanted with a boy who would. Her father becomes what her ideal of a real man is. In this case, Natalie wanted Julie to know that a very good, smart, sweet man that she respects and admires and who was a young man/boy once felt that it was worth it to wait for the right person, and to wait for that person to be ready. Hearing it from her mom, and to a lesser extent, any woman wouldn't have the same impact. Her mom would be too close to the situation to see it clearly in Julie's eyes, and as I said, she's not going to think they know how boys think, and she might even wonder how much of what they tell her is true or colored by their own experiences trying to navigate dating boys in high school.

And like Dani said, it was really more about relationships than the actual mechanics of where babies come from. Like Natalie wrote in her blog, there are books, they teach sex ed in schools now, they learn a lot from talking to other kids (though a lot of that is *wrong*) and they could always do like I did and grab the World Book Encyclopedia to learn about how babies are made. The stuff that she discussed with Adrian was really more something you need to talk to someone else about, so you can ask questions, it's not as cut and dry as 'sperm + egg = baby'.

My husband couldn't understand why Julie was arguing with Natalie and 'being so mean to her mom' in the scene where she was telling her about breaking up with Tim. I think it's because of Julie's inner conflict; she really did like Tim better than Clay, but Clay was more popular and older and could drive so she was trying to look at it like an equation like the sperm + egg equation above. From a purely practical or sort of mathmatical POV, Clay was a better choice. But as we saw with her conversation with Adrian, this is the part where the rules of logic don't really help. You can't measure what you feel in incrimants and put that into an equation. It's nicely ironic that with Adrian, almost everything has to make sense and has to have logic, he believes in things he can see and he's not as good at things that can't be seen or measured. Except for this one thing. There's room to question or doubt anything that can't be seen, touched, or measured by some universal, scientific scale or method, except for how he felt about Trudy and how real that was. See? Nice.

The mystery was good, too, sort of a 'How-will-he-prove-it?' that wasn't too easy to figure out. I guessed that Julie's tee-shirt had something to do with it, and he had something to do with Clay asking Julie out, but I couldn't see the shirt closely and didn't know how Adrian would prove anything after Julie burned the shirt. I didn't know exactly how Julie's love life tied into the murder.

Just curious, did anyone else wonder about the plausability of Tim being able to save all those CDs before they sank too far for him to get them? Well, just in case I wasn't the only one and anyone else is curious, CDs that are not in a jewel case do sink, but very slowly, and when Tim hit the water and broke the surface tension, they still wouldn't sink all that fast. But, CDs inside of a case, like those were, don't really sink, or at least if they do, they sink so slowly that you might as well say they don't sink. And, they do still work afterwards! I ran water in my kitchen sink, mixed in a lot of kosher salt (dissolved it, too) then tossed in a CD in a case and a DVD without a case, and did it again so I could test the surface tension thing. Then I rinsed them off, dried them, and tried them out and they worked. GHood thing too, because the DVD was actually my brother in law's wedding DVD that I was editing, and I didn't think about that before I tossed it in the sink. I had a Randy moment, okay? It still works! That's the important thing.

I liked Randy in this one too. I loved the 'Mmmm. Guilty' line, it was so funny. Randy has my kind of sense of humor. But he didn't ruin the tv screen, really. A little alcohol on a paper towel will take that right off. It worked on my computer monitor lots of times. At least my old monitor. I haven't tried it on the new one, it's an LCD monitor and I'm afraid it might do something lile that TV screen did when Adrian sprayed the acid stuff on it in Dead Guy. I guess I'll have to find a new way to mark where I should crop my screencaps when I make the animated GIFs. Even permanent marker comes off with a little alcohol and elbow grease.

I don't think Rita was a meter maid, I suspected a slightly different line of work. I can't imagine a meter maid needing to be handcuffed to a chair. I wasn't sure why a witness to a knife fight (alledged or otherwise) would need to be handcuffed to a chair either. But did you recognize the actress, Gail O'Grady? She played Miranda StClair in the pilot episode. Her awkwardness with the chair reminded me of the scene where Adrian was talking to her and trying to cram his butt into that tiny chair, then got it stuck on him when he tried to stand up.

This episode reminded me a lot of Carnival, too, with Adrian going to the dead guy's apartment with the dead guy's landlord standing there talking about how much of a pain his former tennant was, and then the setting of where they caught up with the guy, the photos taken at the carnival/park providing a clue, the photo guy screaming to alert them that something important was happening was like when Stokes killed Kitty the ferris wheel operator... And yeah, Bubba, I thought of Marathon Man too when Adrian was trying to catch Sherman before he could throw the evidence into the water, too. And whoever asked about whether Tim reminded anyone else of Benjy a little bit? Yeah, I was thinking the same thing last night. Somehow he does remind me of Kane Ritchotte.

I loved the parts of Cobra that were representational and sort of metaphorical (I think that's the right usage of the word) and I loved the parallels and comparisons in it, with Master Zee telling Adrian to 'be the light' then later, Stottlemeyer was able to find Adrian because the caution light was out among other things. It was just very hard for me to watch the shots that reminded me that Adrian was in a very tiny box buried under a lot of dirt. I have a serious phobia about being underground, especially of being buried alive. It's difficult for me to even go down into a basement or underground room, garage or some other kind of underground space without having an anxiety attack. I wasn't being critical when I said it was hard to watch, I mean it's literally hard to watch for me. But I could really appreciate and enjoy the symbolism of the situation and I can't imagine any other way they could have used that same metaphor nearly as effectively as having Adrian buried alive in a coffin, brought right to the brink of death, walk and talk with Trudy, and then be more or brought back to life at the end. Its the best way I could imagine to have Adrian sort of journey through death and be reborn. It's just inconvenient for me that watching it give me sympathetic death pains. It's actually a good comparison or whatever with the story or the myth of Orpheus and Eurydice in a lot of ways.

I do wonder how that scene (where he was buried alone in a much smaller space with only a little candle for light) will compare with being buried in a larger space with a source of light that won't be as likely to set the container he is in on fire and won't burn up his oxygen, but with another person who *will* be using oxygen. It looks like, from the previews, that rather than taking comfort from the presence of another person being there, he's going to be fighting with Troy instead. I guess though that they won't have to call Dr. Kroger this time. With his son also being buried, he'll probably be a part of the search party and be on hand when they find them, thought I can't imagine him being too focused on Adrian and his issues as soon as they dig them out. He'll be more worried about Troy, obviously.

I thought the thing with the urns was funny, though I can see how it would bother some people and seem very disrespectful. On a purely personal level, I don't care what anyone does with my remains after I die, I told my husband to take the cheapest route he could find, maybe cremate me, put me in a shoebox and bury me between Fluffy, my iguana and Roxie, the very old, and senile poodle that I lost last year. I wouldn't even care if he gave me a 'burial at seas' and flushed it all down the toilet, because it's just my body, it's not me. But I can see where most people wouldn't feel that way, particularly about people they love. But I suspect that my own veiws had a lot to do with why I thought the situation was really funny.

IMO this wasn't one of the funnier episodes, and I don't think they played up Monk's OCD. It was okay, but I don't think it'll go down as one of the top 10.

I didn't really care for this episode as much as I have cared for others this season..I loved when Monk tackled that guy, though..there were a few good moments.

It was good in this episode that the writers had Monk talk about Trudy again. It has been too long since there has been a Trudy mention. One of the show's endearing qualities for me is Adrian's continued devotion to Trudy and the theme that Trudy in her own way is still watching over him and that Trudy still loves him. Now Adrian has to do some more work on finding Trudy's killer and bringing him to justice so that we will see the steely part of Monk. Of course when that happens I think the show will be over so I think the writers are saving that til the last. It wasn't a lmho episode, but then again Monk doesn't make me lmho anymore. It used to in season one and two. I didn't like the part where they gave Natalie the "Here's how it happened" It isn't just that Natalie got to give the "Here's how it happened" I hated it when they gave that part to Randy in "Mr. Monk goes to a farm" The 'Here's how it happened' to me is reserved for Monk. After all Monk is the main character after all and the topic of the show should revolve around him. Every episode it should be Monk solving the crime doing the "Here's how it happened" Natalie, Julie, Stotlemyer, Randy are supporting characters and are there to support the main character Monk not steal his thunder. The thing that keeps me watching the show despite that fact that it doesn't make me lmho anymore is Tony Shalhoub who is the heart of the show. He is reason enough for me to keep watching. Ok critique over. IMO

this episode was good. but it was really easy 2 figure out why the killer needed julie 2 stop wearing the t-shirt. but i loved how the end of the show was at the santa monica pier, it's always nice 2 see monk in new locations, especially monk chasing the killer himself!!

KUDOS to Emmy Clarke! she is 1 really talented actress.
her character, julie, is one of my fav daughter roles in ALL the tv shows i've ever seen!!
such a nice, pretty, sweet & smart girl. [REMEMBER 2 READ HER first BLOG, IT'S A GOOD ONE! BUT WHY NOT POST A PICTURE OF HER UP? NEXT 2 HER BLOG IS NATALIE AND MONK'S PIC. IS THIS A MISTAKE, OR IS IT CUZ "HER MOM" DIDN'T LET HER POST UP HER PIC? HAHA]
her boyfriend, Tim, in this episode is a really sweet and cute guy, too!! he looks familiar, somehow...

there were some really great scenes in this episode...natalie saying "here's what happened", Tim jumping in the ocean 2 get the evidence, that lady at the police station kept interrupting them.
of course, my fav is when monk gave the "big talk"!! a very funny & sweet scene. he can be a great dad!! and i like how they mentioned trudy.

i loved how randy agreed with monk from the start, about who was the killer. and at the end, that was an awesome line: "mm, guilty."

Loved it.

Julie & her boyfriend & BF saving the evidence in the end.....Yay! Good girl Julie....you made the right choice.

Monk giving Julie "the talk"...Great scene.

Monk & Natalie & the ashes...OMG....ROTFLOL . Monk probably WAS able to tell them all apart!

Randy, The Captain & the TV......too funny

Randy & ...."Mmmmmmm Guilty" PRICELESS. Randy is THE MAN! I want one of those coffee mugs LOL

Julie giving Monk a kiss at the end....Natalie not letting Monk wipe it off.....very touching.

Wonderful episode. I was happily entertained.

B.
Can't wait for next Friday.

I thought it a very sweet and charming show that avoided easy laughs and potential pitfalls. As others noted, the young actress who plays Julie (who's becoming a beautiful young woman) was excellent. The only flaw was that the mystery wasn't much, but this was definitely a case where the mystery wasn't the point of the episode.

Patcat

I like when they use scenarios that could easily go in a wrong direction and show that they can be done right.

And you're right, Emmy Clarke (Julie) is a really an excellent actress, and she just gets prettier every year in that sweet, girl next door way, which is a blessing when you consider how so many young female 'celebrities' these days seem to grow up way too fast and end up going for a trashy look, aging before their time, and staying squarely in the middle of one scandal or another. Parents of Britney, Paris, Lindsay and Nicole, PAY ATTENTION! It is possible to allow your child to work in the entertainment industry and not end up keeping rehab centers and the National Enquirer in business! Jeez, I'm so sick of hearing about them!

Anyway, Emmy Clark and Tony Shalhoub really do work very well together, I love scenes where Adrian and Julie interact, it's always very natural looking, and there seems to be a gentle teasing kind of thing going on, like my sister and my grandfather had. I still say that Julie knew exactly what she was doing when she bought that card that played the music, and I think she was teasing him a little bit when she asked him how he knew that the level checking level was working right.

Patcat, have you seen Emmy Clarke in My House In Umbria with Maggie Smith? She was so *little* in that movie, and so adorably cute, but she didn't just slide by on cuteness, she played the part extraordinarilly well. Emmy and Maggie Smith stole the show, I don't remember anything else about that movie as much as I remember them.