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crazygk02
While it may be early on yet to ask I am wondering if the show has/will be renewed for another season after this or not?
Phanta
QUOTE (crazygk02 @ Aug 1 2007, 07:44 PM) *
While it may be early on yet to ask I am wondering if the show has/will be renewed for another season after this or not?

WAY too early. We usually don't know until the end of the season.
despaired
are there any news about the ratings? are there more/less views this season?
Bubba_Bridges
Hi Bubba here, ...

QUOTE (despaired @ Aug 1 2007, 09:24 PM) *
are there any news about the ratings? are there more/less views this season?


Seems like to me, they should work out a contract before the season so, if this is the final season, they can give it a proper finale. That's just me. smile.gif

Ratings ...

The Wrath of Graham 2.51 million
Fear Itself 2.705 million
Audrey Parker has come and gone 2.445 million
The Truth and Nothing but the Truth 2.242 million
Try the Pie 2.031 million
The Marked 1.810 million
Till We Have Built Jerusalem 2.081 million viewers
greatshow
QUOTE (Bubba_Bridges @ Aug 2 2007, 03:58 AM) *
Hi Bubba here, ...



Seems like to me, they should work out a contract before the season so, if this is the final season, they can give it a proper finale. That's just me. smile.gif

Ratings ...

The Wrath of Graham 2.51 million
Fear Itself 2.705 million
Audrey Parker has come and gone 2.445 million
The Truth and Nothing but the Truth 2.242 million
Try the Pie 2.031 million
The Marked 1.810 million
Till We Have Built Jerusalem 2.081 million viewers


It's too late for that because they have already shot the entire season.
Bubba_Bridges
Hi Bubba here, ...

QUOTE (greatshow @ Aug 2 2007, 03:07 AM) *
It's too late for that because they have already shot the entire season.


I know that. smile.gif
EasyMac
QUOTE (greatshow @ Aug 2 2007, 04:07 AM) *
It's too late for that because they have already shot the entire season.

wonder if S4's finale has a series ending feel to it, in the way S3 did.
despaired
thanks dude,but i dunno the rations from earlier seasons.... :/ but seems like the ratings go a down spiral road... not good for season 5 hopes..
EasyMac
QUOTE (despaired @ Aug 2 2007, 09:10 AM) *
thanks dude,but i dunno the rations from earlier seasons.... :/ but seems like the ratings go a down spiral road... not good for season 5 hopes..

The ratings, apparently are still good enough to keep the show in good standing. I don't know how it all works, and just hope for a S5!
evenstar22
laugh.gif I WANT A SEASON 6 cool.gif SEASON 7 tongue.gif SEASON 8.............
go go 4400 youpiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!! wink.gif
cwalrus
QUOTE (evenstar22 @ Aug 2 2007, 10:52 AM) *
laugh.gif I WANT A SEASON 6 cool.gif SEASON 7 tongue.gif SEASON 8.............
go go 4400 youpiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!! wink.gif



I think we'll get a season 5 and then they'll call it quits. I'd love for them to go 7 season like Star Trek: DS9 (Ira Behr's past show).

This season will probably end with an exciting cliffhanger, and then they'll probably announce that season 5 will be the final season.

I really love this show. I think that USA should have promoted it better. Ira Behr has been responsible for two of my favorite shows of all time so I think he'll definitely be able to go on to other exciting projects. I just hope that they give 4400 a proper ending. Maybe he can develop a new Star Trek show for Paramount / CBS. I would love to see him work with some cast members of DS9 again.
Whiterose70611
Although I want there to be another season I cant see it going any further .
I mean Jordan is already starting to have everyone clean up the the city so are they going to keep going and showing the 4400 cleaning up the whole United States or will they stop and have some kind of big Finalie . I want there to be another season but I dont know where they are going to go from here .
despaired
hmm.. any ideas why the ratings are going down so far? ..in my point of view this season is so far great - only thing i miss is that they should continue Tom trying to find alana...
boooey
QUOTE (Whiterose70611 @ Aug 2 2007, 01:47 PM) *
Although I want there to be another season I cant see it going any further .
I mean Jordan is already starting to have everyone clean up the the city so are they going to keep going and showing the 4400 cleaning up the whole United States or will they stop and have some kind of big Finalie . I want there to be another season but I dont know where they are going to go from here .

i agree
tomveil
Agree with the Season 5 should be the final season. Perhaps a slightly extended (20 episodes?) season, but the story is coming to it's conclusion, and I'm afraid that anything more than 1 more season will just be dragging it out.

5 Seasons of a show like this is amazing. I'm glad they've gotten the opportunity to keep at it!
evenstar22
hi ok i can understand why a season 5 ending would make sense but i 'm gonna miss these guys big time,but yeah an extended season would be of some comfort ,look they extended BSG and that didnt turn out so bad,i for one am glad to see more of apollo athena caprica6 three five adama etc...
maybe they could do an episode and called it "prologue to the catastrophe" a 2hrs special to give us in-dept look into what happen that led the pftf to create project4400...i'd love to see the war zone future&the last city i can imagine something like in "judge dredd" film blink.gif it was a walled city too...
cleigh7
I certainly wouldn't want this to be the last season...BUT I think that about 8 seasons is perfect for any good show. I wouldn't want it to go on and on and on and on like ER. Blah. No offense to any ER fans wink.gif
cleigh7
Just so we know, I just read a short little summary for the season 4 finale and I must say...it does NOT sound like a SERIES finale. There just has to be a season 5! *fingers crossed* wink.gif (oh and info came from spoilerfix.com, it IS trustworthy, I promise lol. I read it ALL the time)
katatonik
I have no doubt there will be a season 5, unless the writers and actors decide to quit before that. The show dominated the ratings in its first 2 seasons and held strong for a third. Without any strong shows to fill its time slot, the network will have to sign it for one more year regardless of ratings.

As for knowing whether a show will get picked up while shooting the previous season, it depends on when the last few episodes are being shot. The X-Files' last season had 19 episodes shot between August and March/April, so by the time they had shot the tenth episode, a few episodes had already aired which gave the network the chance to tell the staff to prepare a series finale.

With only 13 episodes, it's hard to get a full rating pattern before the season finale is written (the season 4 finale was probably written as the second episode aired), so USA couldn't decide whether to cancel the series soon enough. But unlike some networks (FOX), USA has a sense of loyalty to their shows and will probably let the 4400 have one more season to provide a solid conclusion.
bahmo
QUOTE (despaired @ Aug 2 2007, 04:16 PM) *
hmm.. any ideas why the ratings are going down so far? ..in my point of view this season is so far great - only thing i miss is that they should continue Tom trying to find alana...


First, it is hard to follow the story unless you have watched before, so viewership really can only go down.

Second, they take 9 months off between seasons, which lets a lot of the excitement die down and diminishes the need to find out what will happen next. I got over my withdrawal symptoms after a few months, and I don't think the powers-that-be did a very good job getting me to ache for my next fix. The web-based stuff they did seems to have been done in stealth mode, and there was no big push to get the word out that the show was about to start again (nor did they run a marathon or many repeats during the offseason).

Third, after being away for 9 months, they further delayed the primary story by doing three extra crispy episodes to start the season (#2, 3, and 4). None of these included Jordan Collier (they only signed him for 10 episodes this season and decided to get the missing three out of the way early). If you really liked Richard, Alana, Jordan, Kevin and Tess, Maia, and many of the other regulars from previous seasons, you didn't get much satisfaction early on.

Fourth, the Dead Zone seems to have lost its way, so Sunday = USA Network is not the case anymore (to be fair to the Dead Zone, for reasons I cannot fathom,it still gets slightly better ratings than the 4400).

Finally, who is the bad guy? Isabelle has no power. Ryland is missing. The Nova group hasn't been heard from. I think some people need to cheer on the good guys and boo the bad guys. We have the mysterious marked now, but 30% of the audience already left. An ambitious city councilman is not quite the same as Ryland.


On the bright side, it sounds like the show has a worldwide audience, so I would hope that a decision to continue would be based on more than just mediocre ratings on USA (it's not the example I would seek to follow, but, as much as I try, I can't shake the thought of Baywatch and its worldwide popularity out of my head when I say that).
bahmo
QUOTE (bahmo @ Aug 3 2007, 01:32 PM) *
(nor did they run a marathon or many repeats during the offseason).


I may be wrong about that. I just read something that mentioned a marathon being done over Memorial Day weekend. Does anyone remember if that happened?
EasyMac
QUOTE (bahmo @ Aug 3 2007, 03:47 PM) *
I may be wrong about that. I just read something that mentioned a marathon being done over Memorial Day weekend. Does anyone remember if that happened?

I don't remember that... dang I wish I had known if it was done.
jfphile
There's a marathon tomorrow with season 4 so far. They promoted it during Psych tonight.

When the series started, I heard that the creators of the show had envisioned a five-season arc. Any idea if that's still the case? I've been hoping it hangs on for five seasons based on that quote.
Pau
I think there will be two seasons more.
I hope so! biggrin.gif
oceanheart
QUOTE (crazygk02 @ Aug 1 2007, 05:44 PM) *
While it may be early on yet to ask I am wondering if the show has/will be renewed for another season after this or not?


Welcome to the board 'crazygk02', I guess you are new since this is your 1st post, and when I was new a wonderful guy named "Bubba" welcomed me, so now I try to to the same. You'll get to know him, he's kinda the (if you don't mind Bubba,) king here. Been around forever, starts threads, and keeps us updated on things, And as 'Phanta' said to early to tell, but if they don't renew maybe we can send tubes, minus the needles, of Promicin to the network LOLO. Just like the fans sent peanuts to save the show Jericho. Anyway you'll find lots of great people here, so have fun and see you on the next 4400 post. Oceanheart cool.gif Peaceout
rockingmule
I just recalled something. I used to like to watch the TV show Alien Nation. That got canceled very suddenly, with a great big cliffhanger, but they made a movie a year or so later to wrap up the loose ends. So even if the 4400 gets canceled, maybe there still would be hope for a movie. wink.gif
slp24
That would be cool rock. I watched a couple of shows on HBO that ended abruptly, Carnivale and Deadwood, I hope they don't do the same with this show.
rockingmule
Me too! So many unanswered questions-they can't just leave us hanging. That would be too cruel.
Promicinjunkie
I'm hoping for at least seven seasons, personally. I also like the idea of sendng promicin to USA as a way to show our enjoyment of the show if it gets cancelled. I would also like to suggest a "sit in" of sorts.

You took away our favorite summer sci-fi show, we're mad, and we're not going to take it anymore... LOL.
Phanta
QUOTE (Promicinjunkie @ Aug 15 2007, 09:39 PM) *
I'm hoping for at least seven seasons, personally. I also like the idea of sendng promicin to USA as a way to show our enjoyment of the show if it gets cancelled. I would also like to suggest a "sit in" of sorts.

You took away our favorite summer sci-fi show, we're mad, and we're not going to take it anymore... LOL.

We can make them lemon jello shots of "promicin".
Promicinjunkie
Too yellow and not enough green. Maybe lemon-lime jello instead.
Phanta
QUOTE (Promicinjunkie @ Aug 15 2007, 10:03 PM) *
Too yellow and not enough green. Maybe lemon-lime jello instead.

I'll work on the color --you work on getting address to send them to.
Promicinjunkie
QUOTE (Phanta @ Aug 15 2007, 11:07 PM) *
I'll work on the color --you work on getting address to send them to.



*delegates responsibilty to Pandora.*

To help you out with the color, I'll work on finding hot pictures of Tom and Kyle...
Phanta
QUOTE (Promicinjunkie @ Aug 15 2007, 10:16 PM) *
*delegates responsibilty to Pandora.*

To help you out with the color, I'll work on finding hot pictures of Tom and Kyle...

Bless your heart. Find good ones tongue.gif
katatonik
QUOTE (Phanta @ Aug 15 2007, 11:07 PM) *
I'll work on the color --you work on getting address to send them to.


Lets not get too carried away. We wouldn't want the real NTAC coming after us for terrorizing the USA offices with unfamiliar promicin-like substances.
June911
QUOTE (rockingmule @ Aug 15 2007, 09:08 PM) *
I just recalled something. I used to like to watch the TV show Alien Nation. That got canceled very suddenly, with a great big cliffhanger, but they made a movie a year or so later to wrap up the loose ends. So even if the 4400 gets canceled, maybe there still would be hope for a movie. wink.gif



I like "Alien Nation" but after it got cancelled they put it out in books(which I enjoyed). They stopped the book series because they decided to make a comeback with movies(2 or 3). However, when that fell through I often which they went back to the book series.
Phanta
QUOTE (katatonik @ Aug 15 2007, 10:23 PM) *
Lets not get too carried away. We wouldn't want the real NTAC coming after us for terrorizing the USA offices with unfamiliar promicin-like substances.

Is it terroring to send them jello shots? To keep the show going? Hey if they are drunk we may get more seasons and some really creative shows. They may not make sense, but they will be creative.
Promicinjunkie
QUOTE (katatonik @ Aug 15 2007, 11:23 PM) *
Lets not get too carried away. We wouldn't want the real NTAC coming after us for terrorizing the USA offices with unfamiliar promicin-like substances.


I say, bring them on. Besides, what's the worst USA could do? Donate the jello shots to all the drunks in NYC. Even then, we'd be contributing to Jordan's peace on earth.

And as Phanta said, we might even get some creative episodes out of it.
nightbird
QUOTE (Phanta @ Aug 15 2007, 08:34 PM) *
Is it terroring to send them jello shots? To keep the show going? Hey if they are drunk we may get more seasons and some really creative shows. They may not make sense, but they will be creative.


Geesh, this sounds like the guy who kept saying instead of just peanuts to send CBS those little packets of salt you get at MacDonalds because Jericho has a salt mine. Then he switched to blocks of rock salt. Thankfully Jericho was resurrected before any of that happened. No bad press as bad as Homeland security descending on all the users....

Best thing that can be done NOW to get a fifth season is to write nice polite letters to the programming people and vp's at USA. Origional letters, handwritten best, and don't drown them in them unless its cancelled, then let the onslaught come. Most people don't do anything until the door is shut and its really hard to get the network interested after that. Show them that you watch and enjoy now and you'll get a lot further along later.

Another really good way to tell USA that you like and watch is to buy the DVD's. This is voting with your money. And get a list of advertisers for each episode and write then nice polite letters explaining that you noticed their ad during the xx/xx broadcase of the 4400 on USA and you like their product. TV isn't run for the viewers, but so the advertisers will pay large amounts of money to run commercials. Write your cable/satalite companies and ask that the viewership data from their boxes and dvdr's be sent to USA if it is not already. If you watch on a dvdr, watch within three days and your viewing will be counted. And don't fast forward through the commercials. Remember they pay the bill.

I'd be really upset if this show ended with the season ender I read and that was it. Part of the campaign to save Jericho was to help bring the new media to life, where online viewing, dvdrs and on demand count just like watching a show live, and the recognition that a loyal fanbase is better a distracted one. A lot of shows have tried sending stuff and writing since, and Veronica Mars fans did get some non-series followup, but if the fanbase is there and the online setup exists (like this board) steps can be taken to help the need for saving a show to dissapear.

We are on the verge of the television industry being utterly changed by the availability of so many new forms of watching and the need to find new ways of marketing and making money. Even neilson has begun to revise the way they measure and what they measure. But its not here yet. Gentle reminders and polite intelligent letters now will do much to get past any season slump.

I'm picky about the boards I read and post on. Some of them are dominated by adolesents who ruin any good discussion. The CBS Jericho board and this one are a few of a small number where there is very little of that. Activity on the network board is a good way to show the network that you watch as well. I don't post as much, but do lurk here a lot. I think what I'm trying to say is that with this show the chance exists to tell USA you watch and enjoy and that your there before the emergency happens. I want a fifth season too!
Arya
i read that end on that page, too. And it can't end like this! So thre MUST be a season 5!
And of course I became adictive since I saw the pilot movie (only several months ago laugh.gif )
MessiahJordan
I think The 4400 has more viewers than what the nielsen ratings show. The problem with the 4400 is that an episode reairs often in a week. Someone who doesn't see it during the original timeslot can see it again later. Just like Jericho there are also people who dvr this show. There have too be more viewers because on the 4400 boards I am on I see alot of posters stating that they are new to the show. I hope we get a fifth season
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