given their advanced knowledge of the future, what is stopping them from taking the promicen shot?

are they afraid of the 50/50 chance of dieing?
or just against promicen as a principle?

Well they are just a "concience" inside folks .So Mathew was a real person from our time, just with another being in his mind. Like Kyle. If the carrier takes the shot, they could die and then they couldn't continue the fight.

Maybe the implant can't tolerate promicin? Promicin works to unlock unused portions of the brain right? Maybe that is where the entity resides, and if it is unlocked then there's nowhere for it to stay causing it to be pushed out of the person's system. Like Phanta said there are now two consciences within one person so it could be staying in a place "all it's own" until that place becomes unlocked. Maybe that was the purpose in the list, those 200 people are the most likely to be Marked and if they get promicin then they will be unusable for The Marked's cause? Didn't Kyle say that they were important, prominent, people, Scientists and such. People who could come in very handy in the wrong hands...

"Maybe that is where the entity resides, and if it is unlocked then there's nowhere for it to stay causing it to be pushed out of the person's system."

I was thinking along the same line. I thought that being Promicin positive might kill the alternate consciousness & be what causes Thomas to take the shot; to get rid of his "mark" & go back to protecting the 4400. That or maybe Shawn could heal Thomas like he did Kyle

Exactly. They would be taking a huge risk. There is no gaurantee that the carrier will survive the shot. And with only 10 PFTF, a 50/50 chance doesn't seem worth it.

Maybe that's why it will not take with Tom ... he already had a shot of Promicin ... it might not have the space to park ...

Boy I hate those Marked ... things we're going so well ...

When did Tom get a promicin injection? If you're reffered to 2 eppys ago, it was a sedative so the Jordan cult could get out of dodge.

I think what zipity said is correct. Having seen Tom's reaction to getting promicin in the previous episode, perhaps the only way he will take the shot willingly is if he fears of a second conscience trying to take over. As for the entire 200 people, I doubt they would ALL be marked. Plus I'm sure some of them don't think what the Marked's goals are so bad. Oh well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

I completely agree, but they could all be pawns of the Marked, working for them. Their might be only 10 Marked but there could be many like Tom, working for the Marked.

like the new NTAC head?

i could also see that be a reason for Tom to accept taking pomicen if it means getting rid of "The Marked" influence in him.
good theory there!

Whoa. Very interesting points. I also wonder what was inside Kyle making him shoot Jordan. If Isabelle was planted from the future pro-hierarchy folks to destroy The 4400, including encouraging Jordan to be in a position to get shot, then why would the being inside Kyle also want the same, unless it was from the same faction in the future. Or was that all coincidence? Both sides wanted him dead, but the anti-hierarchy future people wanted him killed to resurrect him.

Oh, I just had a thought that that's why Kyle might want to inject Tom. Man, that would have been cool to see unfold surprisingly. No offense, but I'd better be careful about reading theories.

Perhaps we are thinking about this too deeply. Maybe what is stopping them from taking the promicin is not the 50/50 chance (after all, being from the future, they would have known who could safely take the shot and simply hijacked ten of them), but commitment to the cause.

Imagine if you were one of the ten and you were caught being promicin positive. How much influence would you have, if your mission is to shape opinion against the 4400 and their spin-off cousins? Or stuck in a government prision being poked and prodded? You wouldn't.

However, if you are small force going against a much larger one, one of the tactics you would employ is stealth. What if Matthew Ross had successfully recruited Isabelle to the dark side? With her powers alone, he would have done considerable damage. And that's just one of the Ten.

Yet, had the first thing they done once they exiled themselves to the present was take promicin, they might have stuck out like sore thumbs. Or worse, given their prominent positions, actually caused the opposite of what their mission plan was: encourage others to take promicin, thereby increasing the likelihood of the 4400s succeeding.

Who us? Surely you jest!


When I read that, I immediately thought of terrorists who board a plane knowing they will die. They take on and execute the mission due to their commitment to the cause.

I agree. And remember when Izzy was giving her dad a heart attack, remember how Matthew was smiling?. Izzy was under his influence and looked to see the joy in his face at her actions, I don't think she would have stopped had she not seen his reaction and realized she was doing his bidding (well, plus she did realize her dad was in pain). She chose not to kill her dad, or rather to destroy another 4400. Matthew's mission was a suicide mission, because he had to face the posibility that his brainwashing of Izzy may or may not work. He had no powers to combat hers, and neither do the other Marked, so if they're revealed, then they are at the mercy of a 4400. That's why I think the Marked are the "have nots" in the future, the ones without powers.
By coming back in time and destroying the 4400 and P positives, that may secure the balance of power in the future, sort of like how Arnold came back in the "Terminator" to make sure Sara Connor never lived to conceive John.
I'm not making a judgement whether the Marked are really the bad faction in the future, because I just don't know.

I like your theory, Chewy! Do you want a PowerPoint presentation done of it, or are you all set?

Are the 10 agents the elite....the bad people from the future? Just a thought that popped into my mind. But of course, this maybe common knowledge and I didn't get it. But are they?

LOL. I'd like a 16mm black and white movie, and maybe we could get Curtis Peck to direct and star in it.

Oh you are so thinking! Love that idea.

*gets Curtis on her cell*

Mickey, i was under the impression the ten agents were, just because it seems like Matthew and Sarah were on opposite sides, and Sarah's side created the 4400 (this is, of course, taking everything said at face value, which I feel comfortable doing at this point.). And I refuse to think that the 4400 were sent back for evil. It just seems...wrong if that's the case.

Yeah, if you recall they said that they were against, and worse than, Jordan and according to Curtis Peck's trailer they were plotting against The 4400, especially given that Matthew was one of them.

But I agree with Zippy, the more I think about it, Sarah seems to be on the good side and Matthew is now DEFINITLY from the bad side. I too "refuse to think that the 4400 were sent back for evil"

Oh, I forgot to add a thanks to all of those who like my theory, and I didn't mean that ALL 200 would be used but that they may be used, or the more likely candidates, I may not have been clear on that.

Muldfeld, I will apologize in advance if my theory turns out to be true I don't mean to spoil your fun just throwing out some ideas! I am thinking maybe it was coincidence though, about Isabelle and Kyle. That Imroth guy said that they were against Collier right? Isabelle was a baby at the time and they had to send Matthew as an effort to control Isabelle after she grew up so isn't it possible that without his interaction she would have turned out OK, and that what she told Richard was the truth, she just showed him the fake vision because of the feelings she and her parents felt towards Jordan in the first place. The good side used the opportunity to take Jordan out so that they could give him the "vision of the future" and bring him back looking like a messiah in order to further the cause for promicin distribution. Maybe the "conduit" they installed in Kyle to be used as a mouthpiece from the future was there the whole time and they were able to tap into and used it to control him during the black outs. I wonder though if the future realized that he would distribute it with the high fatality rate or if they were expecting him to work on it until it was safer...

Promicinjunkie, you throw out some good points as well! It is hard to say but I am leaning towards my own theory for the time being... not that I am biased or anything If nothing else then because, other than Kyle, that would be the most likely reason Tom would take the shot.

Edited to say that I don't know it was the good or bad side that caused Kyle to assassinate Jordan but I do think that it was the good side that brought Jordan back... I think...